Hi all,One quick note on the proposed bylaws changes—it looks like there’s a lot of good work in here, but I wanted to make sure the Rules & Bylaws Committee was aware that it’s a federal crime for a “foreign national” (i.e., someone who is not a U.S. citizen or permanent resident) to donate to “a committee of a political party,” which I think the 43rd District Democrats still qualifies as. It would also be a crime for the 43rd to solicit or accept such a donation. (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121) I am not your lawyer, this is not legal advice, etc.Thanks,— Scott
Hello PCOs of the 43rd Legislative District!The Rules & Bylaws Committee has completed our work, and I am here to present you with the bylaws amendment proposal that the Committee recommends for adoption at the February General Meeting of the 43rd District Democrats.The proposal is presented as a revised Bylaws document, and is available in both plain and annotated formats. We have also produced an Explanation of Changes and FAQ.You may find additional information on the 43rd District Democrats' Bylaws & Rules page. Over the next few days we will be kicking off discussion threads on the unofficial 43rd District Democrats Forum Facebook group, and will be holding a webinar session to walk through the major changes and answer questions (date and time TBD).Please review the proposal in preparation for the vote on Tuesday, and don't hesitate to contact byl...@43rddemocrats.org with any questions, comments, or feedback that you may have.
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Yes, and it’s mainly in reference to the statement in the FAQ that the change to Section 2.1 “would have the effect of allowing those who are not eligible to vote, because of lack of citizenship or other prohibitions, to join the 43rd Democrats.” Removing the “registered voter” requirement from our bylaws wouldn’t be a violation of federal law per se, but it’d still be illegal for the 43rd to solicit or accept membership dues (or anything else of material value) from foreign nationals, or to give foreign nationals any power at all over 43rd expenditures. Removing the “registered voter” provision from the bylaws might make it easier for the 43rd to accidentally violate these laws.I spent several years in Democrats Abroad while living overseas, which sensitized me to the many exciting ways that foreign nationals and local Democratic Party branches can run afoul of U.S. federal election laws—we were surrounded by Aussies who were just as eager as we were to throw Dubya out of office, but we couldn’t even charge them admission to listen to Howard Dean speak.—S
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Associate Members are persons who pay dues but are not eligible for General Membership. Upon payment of dues, they shall be given the privilege of participating in debate, serving on committees, and receiving the District Newsletter. They shall not have the right to run for District Office, serve on the Executive Board, make or second motions, nor to vote.”
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I’m still not your lawyer, etc., but we'd still be running afoul of campaign finance law if we accepted “associate member” dues (or anything else of monetary value) from someone who is not a U.S. citizen or permanent resident.It might be worth stepping back to ask what problem we’re trying to solve with the proposed bylaws change. I raised a flag because the committee's stated reason for making the change included “so that non-citizens can join the 43rd,” which, um, they still can’t (unless they’re green card holders), and I think that taking this rule out of the bylaws might put us at greater risk that some future Treasurer won’t be familiar with 52 U.S.C. § 30121, will inadvertently break that law, and some future Glen Morgan will have a field day with it. So I wanted to make sure the committee knew.
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On Feb 16, 2019, at 6:06 AM, Scott Forbes <sc...@scottforbes.net> wrote:As an aside, the reason why lawyers preface everything with “I am not your lawyer” and “this is not legal advice” is to prevent forming an attorney-client relationship. An attorney-client relationship places all sorts of obligations on the attorney, including an obligation to give good advice backed by research, which means poring over relevant court cases to see how judges have ruled on these issues rather than just skimming the text of the law. With that in mind, again, (a) I’m not your lawyer and this is not legal advice, and (b) I am not an election lawyer, so asking me for advice on these topics is the legal equivalent of asking an eye doctor about your foot.That said: My understanding is that we can't allow foreign nationals to become members of the 43rd, even in a non-voting capacity. The most a foreign national can do for us is to phone-bank, doorbell, or perform other activities that have no monetary value (i.e., activities that people do for us without any expectation of pay).Also, I don’t really think there’s an issue with the proposed bylaws change itself—the issue is more with the committee’s stated reason for the bylaws change. If the stated reason was/is “we’d like to open up membership in the 43rd to U.S. permanent residents and to citizens who aren’t registered voters,” then I think that's fine. (I’m a little skeptical as to whether there are any non-hypothetical people who fit that description and are clamoring to become voting members, but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.)—S
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I would like to add to in something about specifically being open to green card holders and those with felonies who have not yet had their rights fully restored, and also make it clear that the law prohibits us from granting membership to foreign nationals. I'm not sure exactly how to word this.