Geo 3D market

[Norbert Chromek]

Hi guys today i got an interesting emai.. Here is what it says:
3dwarehou...@google.com
komu: ja
pred 10 hod.Podrobnosti
Geo3D Market has sent you a message about your 3D model Church in Húty, Slovakia.
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Hello,
Google SketchUp was bought by Trimble, and as you know, 3D models that used to have incredible exposure in Google Earth and Earth layer in Google Maps are being replaced by the newest Google’s 3D technology.
3D Warehouse never allowed you to directly sell your models, and we, as modelers too (http://goo.gl/6fyU0), know how much we would like to have an application to easily sell our work, result of many years of modeling. Many times we were reached by email to sell our models, but the process never was that easy, because it lacked a platform that make the exchange simple.
That’s why we created Geo3D Market, to us and all SketchUp 3D modeling lovers!
Here you can sell your models, quick and easy and you get 60% of your sell! Disable the download option in 3D Warehouse and place in your model description the link to the Geo3D Market, see this example (http://goo.gl/Fzrfy).
What are you waiting to get started? Visit us http://geo3dmarket.com
Best regards,
Geo3D Market
This message was sent from Geo3D Market through 3D Warehouse. To report a problem, please click here.

Does somebody know something more about it? It looks really interesting but i dont know if i can believe it.. Please tell me whatever you know about it :)

[Mogens Bregnbaek]

I do not know anything about this site, but I suggest that you be carefull about getting involved. Suppose you sell a model worth 4.99 USD. In order to retrive your 60% profit you would most likely be requested to provide some kind og bank account information! Would you do that? Just a thought.

 

Regards,

 

Mogens

2013/3/23 Norbert Chromek <norik....@gmail.com>

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[Randy]

Hi,

To know for sure, you would need to check the header information of the email to see where it originated.

[warlope]

I receive a mail from them too, sincerely i don´t know if share something there, but it's sounds interesting. i checked their twitter account and some great modeler follow him, sounds legit, but first is better to ask them. The other things is that if i going to sell a model, i prefer to have contact with the client directly, anyway, i just do model in my country so people that what a model can find me in my blog,+google or here too.

[Norbert Chromek]

it would be great to have market like this and have some money from our models but i really dont know if its legit

[CraigD - Google]

There are a few problems with this message. First, if they are saying that the exposure of 3D buildings through Google Earth is reducing, then why would people buy models that may not be shown in certain areas (unless you're using the Google Earth API, in which case you've already hired a SketchUp modeler to create this). Second, models will continue to be created for free by whoever wants to make them, and they'll be downloadable via 3D Warehouse. It's hard to compete with free models, even if they're not geo-located, unless you're talking about large scale and highly detailed models (for which people already hire SketchUp modelers to create).

I don't see their logic. 

[drobbins]

I guess I want to know why the process of selling your model is considered complicated with the current state of the Warehouse? I use paypal to bill the client and collect. Once the money comes through, I either send the sketchup file or make them a collaborator so they can download it themselves. Then after a day I take them off collaborator listing. Not to mention keep 100% of the earnings.

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[ixboat]

I dislike the anonymity of it.

It's one thing to buy a pocket knife or a computer part from some organization on the web, and quite another to list one's work for sale with a faceless web site.

The 3D Warehouse account that sent me the message claims to be associated with the University of Coimbra, Portugal.

If they are legitimate, how about a person's name, background, something?

If not a scam, it's at least not very professional.

[Randy]

ixboat,

When you conduct any transaction, either on the web, phone, email, or postal service, there are no guarantees to the honesty of the person on the other end of the transaction. It's always a risk. Even when conducting business in person (face to face), you can still be taken for a ride. Sometimes the need will outweigh the risk and so you do what you have to do to buy what you need to buy.

I believe the "seller" has the responsibility of making the buyer comfortable doing business with them in whatever medium is chosen. Sites like eBay, Etsy, and Pond5 provide tools to help merchants sell their wares. The 3D warehouse is not designed for business transactions, but that doesn't mean you can't use it a s showcase. There is nothing stopping you from providing contact information in your public profile if that's what you want to do. You can also be creative and build a model of a store and inside the store is your stuff for sale. The sign out front could be your photo or business card.

Basically, what I'm saying is that while the 3D warehouse does provide anonymity, the items you put in the warehouse could divulge whatever information you choose to publicize. However, I don't recommend doing that when there are other available venues for such purposes. 

[Ricardo Nunes]

The Geo 3D market site originates from this company: http://inovmapping.com/
They have done some interesting things in the past using the API.

Regarding the Geo 3d market, it is a good idea, but I'd like to see some more added value to justify the 40%. Specifically some service related to displaying models as Flash or WebGL, and a more clear payment/sell process.
But in principle I'm all for it. Perhaps Trimble could integrate a "sell" option into a future version of the 3D warehouse. Or at least something that integrates adwords :-)

[carolin...@inovmapping.com]

iNovmapping is a Portuguese company based at Coimbra at IPN - Pedro Nunes Institute, which develops products and services on the Web, combining traditional Geographic Information System (GIS) with the world's most popular geo web tools: Google Earth and Google Maps. This company aims to change the way of how we can explore the world on the Web.

With its increasing specialization in Google Earth API, the company also began to create more geographical solutions leading to the emergence of new products/services, such as the Interactive Virtual Tours, Geomodeling and 3D web mapping platforms.

(http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2011/05/real-time_recycling_and_bus_info_in.html)

In November 2011 the company created youbeQ, a social and communication platform that runs in Google Earth/Maps. YoubeQ is a unique and disruptive concept that aims to bring together users all around the world connecting them in real time on the virtual globe. See more at http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2011/10/youbeq_a_3d_social_network_in_googl.html; http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2012/10/youbeq_releases_new_version_with_ma.html

After this, the company created  a game called YoubeQ Rally that runs via the Google Earth Plugin and “They use a very impressive physics engine, and it's certainly the best Google Earth Plugin-based racing game we've seen so far”. (http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2012/03/rally_racing_in_google_earth.html)

Geo3D Market it’s the most recent concept produced by iNovmapping, a start-up of University of Coimbra, that decided to create this to all SketchUp 3D modeling lovers. This is, logically, a alpha version that could contain some errors but our idea is to create a place where people can sell or buy Geo3D models. Geo3DMarket has a price system based in levels, for now: $4.99, $49.99, $99.99.

To know more about our company and our works you can read some press articles at http://inovmapping.com/#press.

If you have more questions or doubts please contact us.

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Carolina Costa

Marketing Department

[Norbert Chromek]

so guys what do you think about it? will u try it? :)

[Stray Kat]

iNovMapping has been around for a while and made some great models.  They've always been interested in monetizing modeling, which I can appreciate.  And I believe they are associated with that college, and I think I remember hearing that they had investor funding as well, but that might have been someone else.

I wonder if, with Google replacing SketchUp models with auto-modeled cities, if their entire concept for their YoubeQ has been interrupted.  The platform was a bit like Monster Milktruck, in that it was based on being on the ground, not up in the air.  If anyone has tried to drive Monster Milktruck lately, you can see that it has become quite challenging in the new cities, which seem to lack any flat surfaces for driving.  I'm especially sad about this because it seemed so logical that the next step for Google Earth was games, which requires flat ground.  I think YoubeQ was based on people on seguays, which seems tricky in the new lumpy cities.

So perhaps the business has pivoted a bit and is exploring other ways of making money.

At first I was concerned about the legality of selling certain models this way.  Many building appearances are actually copyrighted and trademarked, and would require legal permission if a modeler were to sell a representation of that building. For example, any photographer can take a photo of the Empire State building, however that photographer can't sell that photo without legal permission.  This is an issue that a modeler needs to consider.  iNovMapping has done well in their legal terms to protect themselves from liability in case of a sale of a model where the building owner hasn't given permission for commercial sale of their trademarked image, so their business model may very well be legal, but modelers need to make sure that they have permission to sell a realistic representation of a building before making such sale, or they would risk litigation.  It wouldn't hurt to do a little research about the building image trademark and copyright laws in a modeler's country.

I personally think it's a fine idea for a business. I have no need for it, since all of my models are commissioned by the building owners, and therefore belong to them, not me.  I waive rights to re-selling my models once they pay me for the model.  And besides, I already get paid!  But hey, if other modelers can get a few bucks for their work, and it's legal, then why not?  

I think this business actually seems more useful for SketchUp models that aren't Google Earth models, but that are independent creative works.  It could be a cool way to sell 3D architectural plans, like for buildings or machines.  Or maybe Video Game objects.  Why get paid once for a model when 10 people might pay you for it?  It could also be another portfolio of sorts to get a modeler's work advertised, which might result in a commissioned model contract.

Their website needs a little bit of work on wording and exuding a professional image, but I think it has potential if they can work some bugs out.  It might just look kind of shady right now because they wanted to launch quickly, but I don't know.  Proceed at your own caution. =)

Katya

[isidro del pino]

tengan mucho cuidado,hay personajes con cuentas falsa,que son modeladores,non acepten dicha solicitud,tus modelos son tuyos y de nadie mas,mucha cautela hay unos depredadores sueltos,que te quitan tus modelos no acuso a nadie,pero parece que los lobos estan sueltos

[isidro del pino]

puedes aportar tu identidad de trible o google,para hacer dicho

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2013/4/27 isidro del pino via 3D Modeling for Google Earth & Maps <3dwh+noreply-APn2wQdVdM8usOCTWH9...@googlegroups.com>

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