HELP! Asus P3B-F and voodoo3 problems
charlie dixon
dixon) wrote:
>I pulled my voodoo3 3000 from an Abit Bx6 motherboard, where it was
>working fine, and installed it in a new Asus P3B-F. I updated the bios
>to 1003a, used the switches to set the agp bus frequency to 2/3, set
>the other switches appropriately for the Pentium III 500 (100 fsb, 5x
>multiplier). I also disabled video shadowing in the bios.
>
>Here's the problem...the system boots fine, and the video signal is
>fine until the system tries to kick into windows graphics mode, and
>then the video signal goes to snow...kind of a rolling blue loss of
>signal. This happens with the windows98 setup disk...scandisk, etc
>runs fine up until it says "scanning registry" or similar, and then
>the snow kicks in. Occasionally it just goes black at that point
>instead of going to snow.
>
>The system is hooked to the same monitor that the other board was, and
>it worked fine this morning...but then so did the voodoo3 card. I have
>reseated the card, and am sure its in its slot properly. Its also the
>only card in the machine at this point. I had installed win98 fresh
>with this voodoo3 card on the abit board just a month ago, and had no
>problems.
>
>I have a windows98 boot disk with Partition Magic on it, and the same
>thing happens there...I get a boot, the beginning screen, and then it
>just goes to scrambled video.
>
>Is anyone aware of voltage problems to the AGP slot with this board
>that might be causing this problem? Any other problems known with this
>card?
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Tomorrow I can swap in a Creative TNT card (AGP) and see how that
>goes, or try a PCI video card, I suppose. But I really want to get the
>voodoo3 going.
>
>All help appreciated!
>
Follow-up to the above...
I swapped monitors, and the same problem occured. I swapped the TNT
card and the Voodoo3 card between systems, and the Voodoo3 card worked
in the P5A-B system, but the TNT card would not work in the P3B-F
system. Same problem..would boot fine, then the video would crash when
going into graphics mode.
I tried a PCI video card (ATI rage IIc) and it worked fine in the
P3B-F.
I switched back and forth from jumper to jumper-less mode, and it
didn't make any difference.
So, unless someone has any suggestions, it looks to me like the AGP
video is hosed on the motherboard, and it will be going back...
Mark Rosenberg
Voodoo3 3000 hasn't worked right since I installed it. Updated the video
drivers, still no good. No change even. NO IRQ conflicts, not even
sharing it. When browsing, video whacks, then freezes and sometimes
ctrl-alt-del works, or I have to shut off the system. My PCI Riva TNT
worked fine. I put it back in and it still works fine. Don't have the
answer yet. You think it could be the agp slot on the mobo? I did at one
point get an 'out of scan range' error from my monitor (which is fully
capable of handling this card). The TNT card reinstalled without a problem.
I figure I'll give 3DFX another shot at the installation or I'll take it
back. I don't have a different AGP card to try to see if it may be the mobo
or not. How did your Creative AGP card work? Did you prove the slot good or
bad?
Mark
Arco Witter
3300 without any problems; it still works perfectly. The problem is
not the combination - it must be something with the Windows drivers. I
still use the original (first) voodoo-drivers.
Arco
BK
says...
> I have the P3B-F, PIII 600, 128MB Ram, and the V3 3000. All works seamlessly
> and smoothly here..don't know what to tell ya. they have worked fine from
> day one.
>
>
> Arco Witter <arco....@euronet.nl> wrote in message
> news:37f8807b...@10.10.20.6...
Wolverine
Michael
>System: Asus P3B-F updated bios to ver.1003a, PIII-450, 128mb ram, 3DFX
>Voodoo3 3000 hasn't worked right since I installed it. Updated the video
>drivers, still no good. No change even. NO IRQ conflicts, not even
>sharing it. When browsing, video whacks, then freezes and sometimes
>ctrl-alt-del works, or I have to shut off the system. My PCI Riva TNT
>worked fine. I put it back in and it still works fine. Don't have the
>answer yet. You think it could be the agp slot on the mobo? I did at one
>point get an 'out of scan range' error from my monitor (which is fully
>capable of handling this card). The TNT card reinstalled without a problem.
>I figure I'll give 3DFX another shot at the installation or I'll take it
>back. I don't have a different AGP card to try to see if it may be the mobo
>or not. How did your Creative AGP card work? Did you prove the slot good or
>bad?
>Mark
>
Oh one more little nasty of the install program, it may attempt to
install msvcrt.dll which is OLDER than what you currently have.
Some people say 98 catches it and warns you, others say it simply
overwrites. So you may want to check that too...it wouldn't cause all
your problems but may render some visual basic modules inoperative in
some programs if it is replaced by an older version. Course, you had
to know what you had to begin with.
Mike
Michael
>System: Asus P3B-F updated bios to ver.1003a, PIII-450, 128mb ram, 3DFX
>Voodoo3 3000 hasn't worked right since I installed it. Updated the video
>drivers, still no good. No change even. NO IRQ conflicts, not even
>sharing it. When browsing, video whacks, then freezes and sometimes
>ctrl-alt-del works, or I have to shut off the system. My PCI Riva TNT
>worked fine. I put it back in and it still works fine. Don't have the
>answer yet. You think it could be the agp slot on the mobo? I did at one
>point get an 'out of scan range' error from my monitor (which is fully
>capable of handling this card). The TNT card reinstalled without a problem.
>I figure I'll give 3DFX another shot at the installation or I'll take it
>back. I don't have a different AGP card to try to see if it may be the mobo
>or not. How did your Creative AGP card work? Did you prove the slot good or
>bad?
>
When installing a voodoo 2 or 3 card, you need to do some preparation.
First you must delete all registry entries to any prior video card or
any other 3d accelerator. For reasons I cannot guess at, the 3dfx
crowd says the driver gets confused if ANY other video driver is on
the system. Then after the registry is fixed, delete or rename any
other video drivers in your windows and system directories, and to
whatever extent there are any signs of some in your program files
directory. I suspect this is VERY important if you had prior 3DFX
products installed.
Second, after the installation it installs a vgardt.vxd, which may or
not be compatible with your existing one on your hard drive for your
motherboard. It is an intel build. You may have to experiment here.
Lastly, the card runs HOT. To rule out any heat issues after you're
sure the card's drivers are installed correctly, open your case blow
air into it using the old house fan and directed at the video card.
If the card still locks up, you can safely rule out heat issues in
normal 2d applications for now.
For testing purposes make certain you're video bios cachable and
shadow is disabled as well in your bios. For 2d applications, its
safe to disable the irq just to rule out conflicts, but don't do 3d
with the irq disabled in the AGP version.
From your description it sure sounds like "heat" to me rather than a
driver problem, but who understands all these interactions between
drivers, heat and lockups?
For what its worth, the voodoo 3 is a total surprise to me in 2d. Its
drivers are totally stable in 98 SE and work with anything I throw at
it, from video capture to browsers, to applications, to usb printers,
to scanners. I am shocked that a company so "gaming" oriented could
have produced such stable drivers in 98 SE. I am using it with a k6-3
however not the GENUINE INTEL.
Let me know what you did, and what each troubleshooting step did or
didn't do for you.
Mike
CompGeek
and a V3-3500TV which exhibited the same problems as the ones you mentioned.
After contacting 3dfx, I was told there may not be enough voltage supplied
to the AGP slot. As a result, I switched to the P3B-F. No more problems
for me; however, I've seen a couple posts saying older ASUS boards may have
the same voltage limitations. Just a suggestion. In addition, the other
suggestions about deleting registry entries also were suggested by 3dfx.
Your mileage may vary...hopefully, the other suggestions work. Good Luck!
Michael wrote in message <37f99f71.18430763@news>...
>Mark Rosenberg <markym...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>System: Asus P3B-F updated bios to ver.1003a, PIII-450, 128mb ram, 3DFX
>>Voodoo3 3000 hasn't worked right since I installed it. Updated the video
>>drivers, still no good. No change even. NO IRQ conflicts, not even
>>sharing it. When browsing, video whacks, then freezes and sometimes
>>ctrl-alt-del works, or I have to shut off the system. My PCI Riva TNT
>>worked fine. I put it back in and it still works fine. Don't have the
>>answer yet. You think it could be the agp slot on the mobo? I did at one
>>point get an 'out of scan range' error from my monitor (which is fully
>>capable of handling this card). The TNT card reinstalled without a
problem.
>>I figure I'll give 3DFX another shot at the installation or I'll take it
>>back. I don't have a different AGP card to try to see if it may be the
mobo
>>or not. How did your Creative AGP card work? Did you prove the slot good
or
>>bad?
Arco Witter
no problem.
Arco
mstrjon32
fine