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Ste Scott

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Can anyone who has their voodoo 2 set up with a BNC cable for their 2d card
and a D-sub cable for their voodoo please reply and tell me what cards you
have and what monitor. Most importantly, can your monitor switch from the 2d
to the voodoo card and back.

I ask this because I've just discovered that my 2d card is stopping the
auto- switching, not the monitor.

I have a Diamond Stealth 3d 2000 - Win 98 CD drivers
Orchid Righteous 3d 2 12mb - Latest reference drivers
Iiyama vision master pro 400 - Win 98 CD drivers

Mike

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I do it.

CL's V2 SLI, using the D-Sub cable.
Matrox G200, using the BNC cable.

Sony 19" 400 PS monitor, with a manual input button.

works fantastic!

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Henry Wiencek

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I have a Viper 550 on BNC and a Voodoo 2 on D-sub. A Nokia 445xpro can
manually switch between the 2 inputs.

Justin Markiewicz

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V2 12Mb SLI on Dsub
Viper V550 on BNC

Eizo Flexscan 573 17inch monitor with auto switching. Works perfect

Paul Wilcox

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Well I wouldn't say it works fantastic Mike. I have the same monitor you do
and this monitor really isn't Auto Switching. Its true it will switch to
find the video input but it won't automatically switch back.


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>I do it.
>
>CL's V2 SLI, using the D-Sub cable.
>Matrox G200, using the BNC cable.
>
>Sony 19" 400 PS monitor, with a manual input button.
>
>works fantastic!
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Ste Scott

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Hmm.. 2 viper 550's that will auto switch. I think I must be my (shoddy)
diamond Stealth 3d 2000. Well then I suppose I'll have to think about a new
2d card. Any suggestions, must be (well) under £100, PCI. Problem is AGP
cards are cheaper than PCI

Ste

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Paul Wilcox

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I never said you said it was autoswitching. I just find it FAR from
fantastic as you point out. BTW I love your tact with your colorful words.
I'd like to see if you would say that to my face. Its funny the things
people will say over the computer behind the safety of the keyboard. Read my
message, I said I had the same monitor and I'm voicing my opinion of it just
like you.

Mike wrote in message ...

>I said I think my set up is fantastic dick head, I did NOT say it auto
>switched - read what I said!!! "manual input button".
>
>!!!!!!!!!!!


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Mike

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Jeff Spicoli

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Is your Steath the one with the S3 chipset? I recall seeing a patch on
3Dfx's driver page specific to this card. I don't know if it addresses your
problem specifically, but may be worth checking out before replacing it.

http://www.3dfx.com

Si Owen

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In article <7c0q82$8nj$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>,
steven...@dial.pipex.com says...

> Can anyone who has their voodoo 2 set up with a BNC cable for their 2d card
> and a D-sub cable for their voodoo please reply and tell me what cards you
> have and what monitor. Most importantly, can your monitor switch from the 2d
> to the voodoo card and back.

V2 SLI on D-SUB, TNT on BNC, 19" Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 900U. Auto-
switches back to the TNT when the V2 signal disappears, but needs manual
setting to the V2 cards (a single button press on the front panel).


> I ask this because I've just discovered that my 2d card is stopping the
> auto- switching, not the monitor.

Unless one of the monitor inputs takes precedence or the 2D card switches
off when the 3Dfx card is active (which it doesn't seem to) then I can't
see the monitor autoswitching. How do you know the 2D card is stopping
it?

Si

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Mike

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Bring it on Pussy_Paul, I'd love to tussle with your 2 bit faggot ass.

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>I never said you said it was autoswitching. I just find it FAR from
>fantastic as you point out. BTW I love your tact with your colorful words.
>I'd like to see if you would say that to my face. Its funny the things
>people will say over the computer behind the safety of the keyboard. Read
my
>message, I said I had the same monitor and I'm voicing my opinion of it
just
>like you.
>

>>>>>Can anyone who has their voodoo 2 set up with a BNC cable for their 2d
>>>card
>>>>>and a D-sub cable for their voodoo please reply and tell me what cards
>>you
>>>>>have and what monitor. Most importantly, can your monitor switch from
>the
>>>>2d
>>>>>to the voodoo card and back.
>>>>>

>>>>>I ask this because I've just discovered that my 2d card is stopping the
>>>>>auto- switching, not the monitor.
>>>>>

Ste Scott

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Cos if you pull the 2d cable (BMC) from the graphics card it will switch.
This means (to my twisted mind) that the monitor won't switch cos it's still
getting a signal from the BNC cable. This works vice-versa as well; it will
switch from the d-sub (2d card) to the BNC if you pull the cable out of the
card

Ste

Si Owen wrote in message ...


>In article <7c0q82$8nj$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>,
>steven...@dial.pipex.com says...

>> Can anyone who has their voodoo 2 set up with a BNC cable for their 2d
card
>> and a D-sub cable for their voodoo please reply and tell me what cards
you
>> have and what monitor. Most importantly, can your monitor switch from the
2d
>> to the voodoo card and back.
>

>V2 SLI on D-SUB, TNT on BNC, 19" Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 900U. Auto-
>switches back to the TNT when the V2 signal disappears, but needs manual
>setting to the V2 cards (a single button press on the front panel).
>
>

>> I ask this because I've just discovered that my 2d card is stopping the
>> auto- switching, not the monitor.
>

Si Owen

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In article <7c3bn4$9ip$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>,
steven...@dial.pipex.com says...

> Cos if you pull the 2d cable (BMC) from the graphics card it will switch.
> This means (to my twisted mind) that the monitor won't switch cos it's still
> getting a signal from the BNC cable. This works vice-versa as well; it will
> switch from the d-sub (2d card) to the BNC if you pull the cable out of the
> card

I'm still not sure that's anything with the graphics card, since the
monitor is happy as long as it has a signal, but will look for one if it
looses one.

When switching to 3Dfx mode the 2D card doesn't know anything about the
switch and remains active, so the monitor stays with the 2D signal. If
the 3Dfx drivers could disable the 2D card (force it into power saving
mode or something) it should switch to and from 3Dfx mode as we'd like.

Mike Viggy

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The other thing is that some monitors (I don't remember which ones) have a
"priority" mode. In other words, if there are signals on both sets of
inputs, one input takes precedance. You might want to try switching the
inputs (use the BNC's for your 2D card, and the D for your 3D card).

Viggy

On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:24:11 -0000, Si Owen (nos...@wordcraft.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <7c3bn4$9ip$1...@plug.news.pipex.net>,

Paul Wilcox

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I should have know, ANOTHER know-it-all college student.

>>>>>>Can anyone who has their voodoo 2 set up with a BNC cable for their 2d
>>>>card
>>>>>>and a D-sub cable for their voodoo please reply and tell me what cards
>>>you
>>>>>>have and what monitor. Most importantly, can your monitor switch from
>>the
>>>>>2d
>>>>>>to the voodoo card and back.
>>>>>>

>>>>>>I ask this because I've just discovered that my 2d card is stopping
the
>>>>>>auto- switching, not the monitor.
>>>>>>

Mike

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Si Owen

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In article <36e55735@csnews>, vigo...@nagy.cs.colorado.edu says...

> The other thing is that some monitors (I don't remember which ones) have a
> "priority" mode. In other words, if there are signals on both sets of
> inputs, one input takes precedance.

I had heard the Iiyama VMP 400 had that, but I've since heard it hasn't.

I wish my monitor had it - I'd already been killed twice in Half-life
before I'd realised that the game had begun on the other input while I
was still looking at 'Loading' on the 2D card!!

R Stafford

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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I have no problem with autoswitching using the following:

Iiyama Vision Master 17
STB Velocity 3D 8meg
STB Black Magic V2 12 meg
P233MMX
192 meg RAM

I am using the BNC connector only. I have it set up with
the normal passthrough and the BNC connected to the
monitor. *IMPORTANT* Set the monitor to detect the
signal input from the BNC only and autoswitching should
take place as usual. I used this configuration with the
original Voodoo and now with the V2 for about 2 years.
With the above setup I now get 68fps in glquake at
800x600 without overclocking anything, video, cpu etc.

Si Owen

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In article <36ecdc1b...@news.dallas.net>, r...@oklahoma.net says...

> I have no problem with autoswitching using the following:
<snip>

> I am using the BNC connector only. I have it set up with
> the normal passthrough and the BNC connected to the
> monitor.

Er, but the whole point is to use BNC in addition to D-SUB to eliminate
the pass-through cables for the 2D card to improve image quality! I'm
not too surprised that yours works as the video source for 2D and 3D is
the same, so there's no switching being done by the monitor.

Try this: Connect your 2D card directly to your monitor with the BNC
cable, and connect the 3D card to the monitor using the D-SUB cable. Then
try the following tests:

- Start a 3D game - does the monitor switch to the 3D card? (the usual
problem is that it doesn't).

- Quit the 3D game - does the monitor switch back to the 2D card (this
usually isn't a problem if the 3D card shuts of the video signal when
inactive).

Try the same tests again with the BNC and D-SUB cables swapped around. If
one configuration passes both tests then it's working, otherwise you're
in the same boat as the rest of us!

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