Is this a good video card?
Nightrain
Pentium 200 MHz MMX, 64MB, S3 Virge 2mb, Diamond Monster 3D II 8 mb.....
Nexus6
will certainly beat the pants off of your S3Virge. If the S3 is on your
mother board, you can shut it off from the BIOS.
Nightrain <nigh...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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4D Gaming - Paul Watkins
Nothing wrong with the card you mentioned though, if the s3 virge is built
into your motherboard you may have some probs.
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Till Bauer
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
7od747$9or$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> I would get a Voodoo3 instead, either a 3000 or 3500.
>
> >
Nice idea to buy a Voodoo3 3000 or even 3500 if someone has a p200 usually
without AGP-BUS! And even he has an AGP-Bus he can save a lot of money when
he uses a 2000er, because the p200 is to slow for a V3, in some games there
is even a Voodoo1 as fast as a Voodoo2 because of slow cpu. A V3-2000 would
never be the bottleneck in that system...
Think about it, not always the fastest is the best...
Till
Basil Brush
>
For 2D, yes. For 3D, no.
It's not that bad, it's just that it's not that good either. For 3D
stuff I mean. In 2D it'll be absolutely fine. Just buy a V2 and you'll
be OK.
BD
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Till Bauer <bau...@tu-cottbus.de> wrote in message
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>
> 4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
> 7od747$9or$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> > I would get a Voodoo3 instead, either a 3000 or 3500.
> >
> > > Pentium 200 MHz MMX, 64MB, S3 Virge 2mb, Diamond Monster 3D II 8
mb.....
> > >
Al Capone
everything when in fact he is an angry loser with crooked teeth who gives
bad advice.
Al Capone
TNT2 Rules!!
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I would get a Voodoo3 instead, either a 3000 or 3500.
>
> into your motherboard you may have some probs.
>
> --
> ICQ# 37365777
> Paul Watkins
> 4D Gaming - A New Dimension in PC Gaming
>
> http://4DGaming.w3.to/
> Email to p....@btinternet.com
>
> Nightrain <nigh...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:7ocvkr$6rh$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
products.They only have one thing in mind.....YOUR MONEY.
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins
Is that a new one, never heard of that?
Oh, I remember thats the Matrix TWAT2000.
Does your left hand know its being two timed by your right?
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4D Gaming - A New Dimension in PC Gaming
Al Capone
How's that gopher ranch coming along? Keeping you in supply of Virge cards?
I heard Llamas were a better bet.
Al Capone
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Al Capone
a PowerVR based chipset being released with only 16megs of RAM. It doesn't
sound so hot to me. Given Matox's reputation for reliability, I'd go with a
G400 Max. Or check out www.3dlabs.com and look at their Oxygen2 32meg AGP
card.
Al Capone
bran <br...@tig.com.au> wrote in message news:7oi648$q3r$1...@toto.tig.com.au...
> YEAH NEON PVR 250 doens't rely on the CPU, it just rely on itself, which
is
> really good
>
> BD wrote in message <7ohf7k$sj$1...@news.3dfx.com>...
> >PVR250, wait for it to come out
> >
> >--
> >ICQ# 39508968
> >http://snap.to/bd [Homepage]
> >http://freecash.pagina.de [Free $$$]
> >
> >
> >Till Bauer <bau...@tu-cottbus.de> wrote in message
> >news:7od90t$ad7$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> >>
> >> 4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> schrieb in im
> Newsbeitrag:
> >> 7od747$9or$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> >> > I would get a Voodoo3 instead, either a 3000 or 3500.
> >> >
> >> > > Pentium 200 MHz MMX, 64MB, S3 Virge 2mb, Diamond Monster 3D II 8
> >mb.....
> >> > >
Al Capone
PowerVR? I owned a Matrox M3D once, PowerVR is not the way to go on PC.
Here are the specs straight from www.videologic.com :
"TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Minimum System Requirements: Pentium P133 with 32MB RAM (Pentium II or
equivalent with 64MB or higher recommended). Requires Windows 95/98/NT 4.0.
Graphics controller: PowerVR 250 with full bus mastering for minimum CPU
load. Features include: arcade performance 3D with full triangle setup
(hidden surface removal, shading and texturing); perspective-correct
texturing; full 32-bit ARGB texture, shading and blending pipeline; MIP
mapping, bump mapping, translucency sorting, Gouraud shading and specular
highlights; bilinear, trilinear and anisotropic texture filtering; colour
key and alpha blended textures; table and vertex fog; multi-texturing
support; environment mapping; texture compression; full-scene anti-aliasing.
2D GUI accelerator with 3 operand ROPs, hardware clipping, transparent and
stretch BitBLT and full VGA compatibility. Integrated 250MHz RAMDAC and
clock synthesizer. Video playback and MPEG2 decode acceleration (X, Y
interpolated scaling, YUV to RGB conversion, motion compensation, multiple
overlay windows, colour key).
Memory Configuration: 16MB of high-performance SDRAM memory.
Connectors: Standard 15-pin D-shell monitor connector.
Bus architectures: Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) 2X, with Sideband
Addressing for host-based textures, or 32-bit PCI 2.1, both Plug and Play
compliant.
Approvals: PC 98 compliant. Compliant with EMC directive (CE). EnergyStar
and VESA Display Power Management Signaling (DPMS) compliant. VESA 3.0
compliant BIOS. VESA DDC-2B compliant monitor signalling.
Technical support: VideoLogic technical hotline, Internet web site and ftp
services.
Warranty: Five years.
Accelerated Windows drivers: High-performance drivers for Microsoft Windows
95/98 and Windows NT4.0.
Accelerated video and 3D drivers: DirectDraw, Direct3D, GLQuake, PowerSGL
Direct and PowerSGL Direct2 for Microsoft Windows 95/98. DirectDraw,
PowerSGL Direct and PowerSGL Direct2 for Windows NT4.0."
Now compare that to a Voodoo3 300 or a TNT2 Ultra spec list. This PVR250
isn't gonna win any frame rate battles or compatability contests.
Al Capone
BD <b...@moonraker.com> wrote in message news:7ohf7k$sj$1...@news.3dfx.com...
TNT2 Rules!!
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:7oi4fi$8l9$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> Matrix?
>
> Is that a new one, never heard of that?
>
> Oh, I remember thats the Matrix TWAT2000.
>
> Does your left hand know its being two timed by your right?
>
> --
> ICQ# 37365777
> Paul Watkins
> 4D Gaming - A New Dimension in PC Gaming
>
> http://4DGaming.w3.to/
> Email to p....@btinternet.com
>
>
> > Don't listen to Paul.Get a Matrix,and stop wasting money on 3Dfx
> > products.They only have one thing in mind.....YOUR MONEY.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
constantly wrapped around a dick,dosen't mean the rest of the world is
jacking off Paul.Wake up and get a real card,and stop kissing ass to the
industry.
bran
really good
BD wrote in message <7ohf7k$sj$1...@news.3dfx.com>...
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins
boy comments in here, i`m not kissing no butt, i just aint putting up with
NVIDIA "jump on the bandwagon" arseholes like you.
I was giving my opinion to someone, it wasnt any of your business, your the
one with the problem, if you had just of said to the chap, get a RIVA mate
that would of been fair enough, but you had to take it further and be a
twat. Any more nonsense from you, you ISP will be contacted and I will see
to it personally you are removed from this newsgroup.
You dont like my replies, dont read them, dont reply to them, simple as
that.
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins
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TNT2 Rules!! <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
Charlie Savko
>No shit. Paul is a London based moron who thinks he knows something about
>everything when in fact he is an angry loser with crooked teeth who gives
>bad advice.
>
>
> Al Capone
And you're nothing but a troll who pointlessly flames and contributes
nothing of significant value to this newsgroup. Not mention that you
hide behind a pseudonym and false email address.
--
Charlie Savko
csa...@earthlink.net
TNT2 Rules!!
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:7oiupt$i4k$1...@news.3dfx.com...
ANYONE to jump on the bandwagon.People just don't have to have 3Dfx crammed
down their throats like mindless sheep,and people like you contribute to
just that.Everyone needs to know there are MUCH better products than the
crap they are force fed everyday via telivision ads and NGs like this
one.And as far as your name calling,that just goes to show how immature you
are.You fired off the first names Paul.Read the posts and you'll see that.If
you don't like what I have to say,then take your own advice and ignore
me.Until then,put up or shut up.Quit being a child and grow up,join the real
world Paul.
God I hate whiners like you.Go ahead Paul,contact my ISP.I don't care.I tell
it like it is.
bran
quake 3 1024x768 on PIII 550. ANd u still think its not gonna beat voodoo3
EH??? wait and see
Al Capone wrote in message ...
Basil Brush
>PowerVR? I owned a Matrox M3D once, PowerVR is not the way to go on PC.
Why not? Sega haven't chose it for their Naomi and Dreamcast machines
for nothing.... they didn't drop in a V3 2000/3000/35000 did they???
I agree that when the m3D came out, PVR support was poor, so everyone
went with 3Dfx...... now things are changing. We have TNT2Us and
G400MAXs...... games developers are supporting all the big chipsets
now. 3Dfx have had their day. It's time for someone else to take up
the reigns...
Basil Brush
>
>>No shit. Paul is a London based moron who thinks he knows something about
>>everything when in fact he is an angry loser with crooked teeth who gives
>>bad advice.
So you're his dentist then are you?
It seems to me like it's you that gives bad advice.... assuming of
course that no advice = bad advice.
>>
>> Al Capone
>
>And you're nothing but a troll who pointlessly flames and contributes
>nothing of significant value to this newsgroup. Not mention that you
>hide behind a pseudonym and false email address.
>
>--
>Charlie Savko
>csa...@earthlink.net
Well put.
Hey, Al.... do you actually do anything apart from flame people here
in this NG? So far, I've just read six posts from you and they're all
effectively telling the original poster to f*ck off.
Oh, and Charlie, there's nothing wrong with using psuedonyms although
using a blatantly useless email address is crap... use Hotmail, Yahoo
etc and it stops spam in your personal email inbox.
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins
with, once again.
Mr A.Russell, Al Capone/markdark etc. Hmmm. do you think I was born
yesterday.
Keep taking the pills, getting councseling etc. maybe one day there must
might be a cure for being an arsehole. Until then just keep swigging back
the booze like normal.
--
ICQ# 37365777
Paul Watkins
4D Gaming - A New Dimension in "Dealing with Al Capone"
TNT2 Rules!!
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:7ojvsl$9t$1...@news.3dfx.com...
me as well as the others in here.I see that you CANNOT follow your own
advice,and ignore me.Thats fine.Your threats are empty and you do not scare
me.Just because I tell someone not to listen to you,and look into other
cards,you feel the need to start bitching and threatening.Fine,Paul.BUT if
you want to play this little kids game and continue with your whining and
name calling,go right ahead.I'm ready.Just because your overseas,do NOT
think that you are untouchable.You are not.NOBODY is.And if you want to come
after me,so be it.I am ready for your sorry ass.YOU WILL REGRET IT!
And before you accuse me of ANYTHING,maybe you should check into who I
really am.Your gonna piss off the wrong person someday Paul.That person may
just be me.YOU started this,but I am MORE than willing to end it.
If you can't post with the big dogs,maybe you should stay on the porch with
the pussys.
Ruth Estep
> Matrix?
I think he means MATROX (specifically, the new G400, which STILL hasn't
shipped yet in any sort of volume). Until (and unless) Matrox solves their
technical support problems, I refuse to recommend ANY Matrox product for any
reason.
Instead, for a Pentium-200 (or equivalent), I recommend Voodoo2 (with either
an ATI or TNT card to handle the 2D duties), a Banshee, or possibly a V3
2000 PCI (which is little more than a V2 these days).
Christopher L. Estep
TNT2 Rules!!
Ruth Estep <jcc...@olg.com> wrote in message
news:7okdhh$5ai$1...@news.3dfx.com...
to say,is that there are so many other cards out there that will do a good
job with less hassles.To each their own,but people need to keep an open
mind,and not follow hype.Only what THAT individual thinks will do the job.
I have owned both 3Dfx and Creative cards,and found them both to be less
than thrilling.I followed the hype,and paid the price for it.
But like I said,to each their own.
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins
And I know exactly who you are.
If anyones a pussy/scared MF its you, WTF are you using my email address,
worried mummy and daddy might see your messages.
At least I print my real name and real email adress, Ive got nothing to
hide, no-one on this Internet has a problem with me apart from you, you took
it on yourself to start this, i.e. your a trouble maker with nothing better
to do.
Post, flame, do what ever you like, empty threats eh? - WTF is this no-one
is untouchable, you gonna buy a plane ticket and come and sort me out
yourself LMAO, or pay a hitman LMAO!
Big boys (!?!) WTF, little "wet behind the ears", shitting pink boys more
like.
Post some more, I`m having a good laugh today (so is all my buddies that
here as well), and its at your expensse.
ROFLAMO x100 (Cant stop laughing at the thought of you sorting me out)
Matrix
TNT2 Rules!!
> ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> And I know exactly who you are.
(snip/garbage)
Oh,Paul.........your such a MAN! A God,perhaps????
I stand corrected.You are the expert on everything.How could I have EVER
expected to stand up to you.I am amazed at your cultured use of the english
language,and am humbled by your wit.I shall cease to bother you little
child,for I am scared of you and your little british punk friends.I have
been put in my place by the best,Paul.But you take the trophy as "Toughest
Dude on the web".
(Insert sarcasm tag here)
Blow me Paul.I don't need to fly over there to reach you.
*PLONK*
Rot in my killfile for awhile.
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins
You remind of Al Capone so much, i`m beginning to miss him as well.
Promise me you`ll come back and flame me again, I wouldn`t be able to stand
it, knowing you were never going to flame me again.
Punk Friends, eh? - It`s the 90`s now, not many of us walking around with
spikey/coloured hair, would be hard for me to do anything with my hair,
suppose I could try "Regain"
Well, you`ve spiced up my sunday, nothing much to report on today, getting a
bit boring till you showed up. Maybe we will cross guns in a Quake3 Arena
sometime, should be fun *evil grin*
--
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4D Gaming - A New Dimension in PC Gaming
TNT2 Rules!! <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Michael
you have a 32bit 3d card you are the one who has fallen victim to the hype
because the framerates suck. Bye little troll boy......
PLONK
TNT2 Rules!! <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Al Capone
PowerVR support. You need to do your homework a little better.
Al Capone
Basil Brush <goneto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Al Capone
broken? And using what video mode for Q3 did they do this test? Q3 does
NOT support PowerVR. And by the way, this PVR250 DOES utilise CPU
functions, it is NOT independant of the CPU. The NV10 is supposed to be the
first that uses a second processing chip to manage image placements and
interleave functions. You go ahead and buy one, we'll see you back in here
whining when you can't play Quake3 Arena final version or Unreal Tournement
or alomst any game that is out right now (with the exception of Quake2).
Al Capone
bran <br...@tig.com.au> wrote in message news:7ojqmp$5i8$1...@toto.tig.com.au...
> Didn't u know that this video card powervr250 made 60 frames per secs on
> quake 3 1024x768 on PIII 550. ANd u still think its not gonna beat voodoo3
> EH??? wait and see
>
> Al Capone wrote in message ...
> >Why? $200.00 for a 16meg card comparable to a V3 2000 that is based on
> >PowerVR? I owned a Matrox M3D once, PowerVR is not the way to go on PC.
Al Capone
Defending yourself under another alias is really sad.
Al Capone
Charlie Savko <csa...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:37ad0f27...@news.earthlink.net...
> On Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:09:14 -0400, "Al Capone" <W...@told.you> wrote:
>
> >No shit. Paul is a London based moron who thinks he knows something
about
> >everything when in fact he is an angry loser with crooked teeth who gives
> >bad advice.
> >
> >
Al Capone
Good luck getting support from 3DFX short of "reinstall the drivers".
Al Capone
Basil Brush <goneto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:37ad71a4...@news.virgin.net...
> >On Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:09:14 -0400, "Al Capone" <W...@told.you> wrote:
> >
> >>No shit. Paul is a London based moron who thinks he knows something
about
> >>everything when in fact he is an angry loser with crooked teeth who
gives
> >>bad advice.
>
> So you're his dentist then are you?
> It seems to me like it's you that gives bad advice.... assuming of
> course that no advice = bad advice.
>
> >>
> >> Al Capone
> >
> >And you're nothing but a troll who pointlessly flames and contributes
> >nothing of significant value to this newsgroup. Not mention that you
> >hide behind a pseudonym and false email address.
> >
> >--
> >Charlie Savko
> >csa...@earthlink.net
>
Al Capone
SHALL I RE-POST SOME OF YOUR MESSAGES IN THE CREATIVE TNT2 ULTRA NG IN
HERE?!!?!?!??
WHICH IS IT??? DID YOU GET RID OF YOUR VOODOO3 FOR A TNT2 ULTRA OR
NOT?!?!??!!!!!
FUCKING 2 FACED LYING BRIT FAGGOT.
Al Capone
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:7oium8$i09$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> If you havent got a Voodoo card you shouldnt be posting your imature
school
> boy comments in here, i`m not kissing no butt, i just aint putting up with
> NVIDIA "jump on the bandwagon" arseholes like you.
>
> I was giving my opinion to someone, it wasnt any of your business, your
the
> one with the problem, if you had just of said to the chap, get a RIVA mate
> that would of been fair enough, but you had to take it further and be a
> twat. Any more nonsense from you, you ISP will be contacted and I will
see
> to it personally you are removed from this newsgroup.
>
> You dont like my replies, dont read them, dont reply to them, simple as
> that.
>
Al Capone
that he is me? You really are a fucking retard aren't you Paul Watkins.
Keep it up, I'm sure BTinternet would like to hear more of your flaming and
name calling activities.
Al Capone
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I know who you are, I recognise your posting address. You will be dealt
> with, once again.
>
> Mr A.Russell, Al Capone/markdark etc. Hmmm. do you think I was born
> yesterday.
>
> Keep taking the pills, getting councseling etc. maybe one day there must
> might be a cure for being an arsehole. Until then just keep swigging back
> the booze like normal.
>
> --
> ICQ# 37365777
> Paul Watkins
> 4D Gaming - A New Dimension in "Dealing with Al Capone"
Al Capone
when you were trying to kiss my ass and get me to do shit for you. You'll
see that TNT2 Rules! is almost 200 miles from me. For your stupid London
brain dead ass, that would be almost 240 kilometers. You are really making
yourself look stupid Paul. I hope you send his ISP posts from me. They'll
never acknoledge another complaint from you again.
You really are truly a moron, Paul.
Al Capone
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:7okg4j$6d6$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> And I know exactly who you are.
>
Al Capone
complaint through your ISP to ab...@btinternet.com . They've gotten
complaints about this nimrod before and including an invalid complaint from
him thinking that you are me will really probably be the last straw. The
idiot will lose his web page for good this time too.
Al Capone
TNT2 Rules!! <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> 4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:7okg4j$6d6$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> > ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > And I know exactly who you are.
>
Al Capone
LOL!!!!
He is a Quake2 player Paul.
You should really play against him. He's a smart-ass admin for a 24 hour
Quake server. If I can remember the server name, I'll post it so he can ban
your ass from it for being yourself.
Al Capone
4D Gaming - Paul Watkins <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:7okqtm$ajd$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> Damn, and I was beginning to like you as well. :(
>
> You remind of Al Capone so much, i`m beginning to miss him as well.
>
> Promise me you`ll come back and flame me again, I wouldn`t be able to
stand
> it, knowing you were never going to flame me again.
>
> Punk Friends, eh? - It`s the 90`s now, not many of us walking around with
> spikey/coloured hair, would be hard for me to do anything with my hair,
> suppose I could try "Regain"
>
> Well, you`ve spiced up my sunday, nothing much to report on today, getting
a
> bit boring till you showed up. Maybe we will cross guns in a Quake3 Arena
> sometime, should be fun *evil grin*
>
> --
> ICQ# 37365777
> Paul Watkins
> 4D Gaming - A New Dimension in PC Gaming
>
> http://4DGaming.w3.to/
> Email to p....@btinternet.com
>
Al Capone
And "trouble free" is a stretch. Maybe one of the LEAST trouble free gaming
cards would be a more accurate description, as long as you're NOT talking
about Quake3.
Try being informative instead of attitudinal. YOU seem to be the troll in
this case.
Al Capone
Michael <new...@uq.netNOHAM.au> wrote in message
news:7old1a$ho0$1...@news.3dfx.com...
> The voodoo2 is a trouble-free card, it looks good and runs games fast. If
> you have a 32bit 3d card you are the one who has fallen victim to the hype
> because the framerates suck. Bye little troll boy......
> PLONK
>
> TNT2 Rules!! <p....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
Al Capone
participating.
Dreamcast does not outperform all computers at gaming nor will it ever.
Look at the specs of the Dreamcast. Low memory, slow CPU cycles, etc. etc.
Get real.
Because the Dreamcast used the PVR chipset, this makes me NOT want to have
anything to do with it. Sega has screwed me so hard in the past I am still
sore. Can you say $400.00+ for one of the first 5 Saturns in Michigan?
That was the Saturn and an extra controller (as it only came with one in the
box). This was right after buying Sega-CD for Genesis, then expanding that
to 32x. 32x games were dropped soon after. 32x CD games were supposed to
kick ass. They sucked ass was more like it, that is the 10 or so that were
released. I sold my Saturn to a sucker 20 months ago along with 4 games and
immediately added some money to the selling price, went to Toys-R-Us and
bought a secong generation Playstation which I still have. I took my other
games to a store, traded them in, and bought a few Playstation games with
the credit. The ONLY thing better on the Sega than the Sony system was the
audio playback functions, that's it. And that was only because Sega used a
Yamaha sound chip in the Saturn. Sega has scorned me long ago, and they
will not do it again. When the Playstation 2 comes out, I will buy it for a
few reasons. #1, DVD playback on my TV. #2, backwards compatability with
my current PSX games. #3, the ability to walk away from this friggin PC,
turn on the Playstation and play a game WITHOUT a blue-screen, spending 20
minutes coniguring a game, and without dimming the lights and spinning the
power meter at 10,000rpm by turning this Frankenstein like machine on. I
will always have a PC if only for games like Kingpin that will never be
fully released in all their raunchiness on any console system due to the age
of most of the users, but even though I am not a kid anymore, I can only now
appreciate the ability and simplicity of turning it on with one button and
playing a game a few seconds later. That is why I still play Command and
Conquer on my Playstation to this day. Less stress. But if I really want
good graphics (or better at least) I turn on my PC and liqify my brain
dealing with buggy drivers, crappy support and corporate lies in a lame
attempt to achieve the "ultimate gaming experience". Hasn't happend yet,
but maybe I'll see it before my reflexes are hinderd by artheritis.
I hope Sega gets Quake2 on the Dreamcast and the console players can join in
on Gamespy servers. I will be there to humiliate them with my PC.
As for the Q3 timedemo, there is not a timedemo included, therefore one must
RECORD a demo to use. This is easy to do and make it to give the desired
results. This is why no decent magazine uses Q3 timedemo yet.
As for OpenGL support on the PVR250, this is negotiable. I saw ONE mention
of OpenGL on the site concerning the PVR250, and 2 mentions of "OpenGL
PowerVR" support. This sounds like Quake2 PowerVR support, which is
"PowerVR GL" in the game, which is actually a more accurate description.
PowerVR uses GL commands to achieve textures and shapes, but in a different
manner than true OpenGL. The 2 are close, but not compatable.
At this point, I repeat, QUAKE3 TEST DOES NOT SUPPORT POWERVR!!! Gazing
into your crystal ball and saying "therefore Q3Arena and everything else
WILL support it." is nothing short of a lie. If you're in close with John
Carmack, have him post about future supported video modes of Quake3. I'm
sure we'd all like to be enlightend.
And Benchmarks from a 98 edition of a magazine? Do you know how many TNT
driver versions have been released since then? Are you really this far
behind that you read 18 month old magazines?
So next time YOU post, maybe you should try getting recent information and a
general working knowledge of video systems before you make another 1/2 assed
attempt at sounding informed.
and KBS0 was nothing more than a tormented teen-ager desperately seeking
attention. He left as soon as others ignored him, which is what people may
want to do the next time you give a lenghty incorrect summary of some
"vaporware" board that you want to argue about.
Al Capone
Al Capone
Change your ident again. Maybe I won't notice your NNTP posting host next
time.
Al Capone
Christopher Hill <christop...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 'do you know how old PLONK is'
>
> surely it's up to others how they respond?
>
> and quake 3 support is getting better.
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>
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> Al Capone <W...@told.you> wrote in message
> news:rque87...@corp.supernews.com...
Christopher Hill
with your attitude on others. But this one is just plain uninformed and
stupid.
>Are you aware that the timedemo for Q3Test is broken?
Q3Test 1.08, 1.07 and 1.06 ALL support timedemos properly. 1.05 was the only
version with a broken timedemo. It's even in the whatsnew file.
>Q3 does NOT support PowerVR.
This statement is not correct either. Although Q3Test does not support the
original PowerVR chipset, the new 250 chipset definately has full OpenGL
support, and therefore Q3Arena and everything else WILL support it.
The chipset is the same chip used in the Dreamcast console, and if you know
anything about Dreamcast you will know it surpasses any PC at the moment
(although the PC will quickly catch up and overtake, as usual
Benchmarks? PC Format issue 98.
With BETA drivers, the 250 clocked up 53.4 at 1024x768 using the Quake2
CRUSHER demo. That surpasses the TNT2 Ultra, which gets 49.6 on the same
spec machine, same demo (P3 500)
>And by the way, this PVR250 DOES utilise CPU functions, it is NOT
independant of the CPU.
True, but the PVR250 is a third gen chip, NOT a fourth gen. It's not
supposed to be competing with the NV10. Videologic may well release an
updated version with T&L
Don't get me wrong. I'm not planning on buying this chip or any chip until
I've read the reviews. But this chipset looks like it will beat the other
3rd gen chips into the ground.
So next time you post, maybe think about what you are posting and do a bit
of research. And get rid of your attitude problem, you don't need to insult
everyone who has a different view to you.
But at least you're not as bad as KBS0DW ;)
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Al Capone <W...@told.you> wrote in message
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Christopher Hill
surely it's up to others how they respond?
and quake 3 support is getting better.
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Al Capone <W...@told.you> wrote in message
Christopher Hill
are paranoid, just as bad as Paul who accused TNT2 Rules!!! of being you.
Get both of your heads looked at.
Paul posts from BT Internet, I post from UK Online. Simple as that. Both
from the UK, yeah, fine, but that's where the similarity ends.
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Al Capone <W...@told.you> wrote in message
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> OK Chris, or should I call you Paul Watkins.
>
> Change your ident again. Maybe I won't notice your NNTP posting host next
> time.
>
>
> Al Capone
>
>
>
> Christopher Hill <christop...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:7ons92$p1u$4...@apple.news.easynet.net...
Christopher Hill
> Chris, again you need to feel dominant in an issue of which you were not
> participating.
again? need to feel dominant? If you had given correct information in the
first place, then I would not have replied
> Dreamcast does not outperform all computers at gaming nor will it ever.
> Look at the specs of the Dreamcast. Low memory, slow CPU cycles, etc.
etc.
> Get real.
<snip>
Let's wait and see, shall we? You may be right, I may be right. The PowerVR,
from its specs is
> I hope Sega gets Quake2 on the Dreamcast and the console players can join
in
> on Gamespy servers. I will be there to humiliate them with my PC.
Yes, I am looking forward to doing that if it is possible. But that is just
because the controllers witll suck for fps games.
> As for the Q3 timedemo, there is not a timedemo included, therefore one
must
> RECORD a demo to use. This is easy to do and make it to give the desired
> results. This is why no decent magazine uses Q3 timedemo yet.
uhh... Q3Test 1.06 and 1.07 has two inbuilt timedemos, q3testdemo1 and
q3testdemo2, and Q3Test 1.08 has two, renamed (and only renamed, not
changed) to q3demo1 and q3demo2
Shall we go and try them out?
go to console
timedemo 1
demo q3testdemo1 OR q3testdemo2
or if you have 1.08
demo q3demo1 OR q3demo2
So, Q3Test *does* have timedemos fixed in the later versions, and it *does*
have inbuilt timedemos, so it *is* possible to do reliable timedemos for a
benchmark with
q3test. They are both quite intensive on the framerate too.
Why don't magazines use them yet? I don't know is the answer, although I
know that because they have to write the magazine during the month before it
is published (of course), they may not have had access to the later versions
of q3test yet. Who knows? But I think we will start to see timedemos coming
out
So can you now admit that you were wrong on that point? I'll respect you a
lot more for it.
> As for OpenGL support on the PVR250, this is negotiable. I saw ONE
mention
> of OpenGL on the site concerning the PVR250, and 2 mentions of "OpenGL
> PowerVR" support. This sounds like Quake2 PowerVR support, which is
> "PowerVR GL" in the game, which is actually a more accurate description.
> PowerVR uses GL commands to achieve textures and shapes, but in a
different
> manner than true OpenGL. The 2 are close, but not compatable.
>
> At this point, I repeat, QUAKE3 TEST DOES NOT SUPPORT POWERVR!!! Gazing
> into your crystal ball and saying "therefore Q3Arena and everything else
> WILL support it." is nothing short of a lie. If you're in close with John
> Carmack, have him post about future supported video modes of Quake3. I'm
> sure we'd all like to be enlightend.
*sigh* do you really think that they are sooo stupid as to not support
q3test? Nobody will ever release a card that does not support it. Why don't
you email their support and ASK them if they are supporting q3test. If they
reply with no, I will shut up and say sorry.
> And Benchmarks from a 98 edition of a magazine? Do you know how many TNT
> driver versions have been released since then? Are you really this far
> behind that you read 18 month old magazines?
??? Issue 98? and the latest is Issue 99? It was the August 1999 AD issue.
OK, so I was unclear. Sorry.
> So next time YOU post, maybe you should try getting recent information and
a
> general working knowledge of video systems before you make another 1/2
assed
> attempt at sounding informed.
misunderstanding.
> and KBS0 was nothing more than a tormented teen-ager desperately seeking
> attention. He left as soon as others ignored him, which is what people
may
> want to do the next time you give a lenghty incorrect summary of some
> "vaporware" board that you want to argue about.
I said you weren't as bad... and you are the one who is incorrect, friend.
Firstly you claim that the q3test timedemo is broken, and then when I tell
you it is not, you don't apologise for your mistake, but you carry on and
make another false statement, that I have just again proved wrong.
Misinformed, that's all 'but you can cure misinformation with knowledge', as
you said not so very long ago.
Basil Brush
>SHALL I RE-POST SOME OF YOUR MESSAGES IN THE CREATIVE TNT2 ULTRA NG IN
>HERE?!!?!?!??
>WHICH IS IT??? DID YOU GET RID OF YOUR VOODOO3 FOR A TNT2 ULTRA OR
>NOT?!?!??!!!!!
>
>FUCKING 2 FACED LYING BRIT FAGGOT.
Hey, calm down. Stop shouting.
As for "lying Brit faggot" well, you're on thin ice here. I'd shut it
if I was you. Most Americans are descendents from the good ol' Irish,
and where is Ireland? Sure as hell ain't in the US is it? Great
BRITAIN.
Good shot in the foot there!
Basil Brush
>I'll remember that next time I see a post from you having problems basil.
>Good luck getting support from 3DFX short of "reinstall the drivers".
Whoah, calm down. I was just merely pointing out you seem to correct
people's mistakes first and foremost. No need for the moral high
ground.
bran
Al Capone wrote in message ...
>Chris, again you need to feel dominant in an issue of which you were not
>participating.
>
>Dreamcast does not outperform all computers at gaming nor will it ever.
>Look at the specs of the Dreamcast. Low memory, slow CPU cycles, etc. etc.
>Get real.
>
>I hope Sega gets Quake2 on the Dreamcast and the console players can join
in
>on Gamespy servers. I will be there to humiliate them with my PC.
>
>As for the Q3 timedemo, there is not a timedemo included, therefore one
must
>RECORD a demo to use. This is easy to do and make it to give the desired
>results. This is why no decent magazine uses Q3 timedemo yet.
>
>As for OpenGL support on the PVR250, this is negotiable. I saw ONE mention
>of OpenGL on the site concerning the PVR250, and 2 mentions of "OpenGL
>PowerVR" support. This sounds like Quake2 PowerVR support, which is
>"PowerVR GL" in the game, which is actually a more accurate description.
>PowerVR uses GL commands to achieve textures and shapes, but in a different
>manner than true OpenGL. The 2 are close, but not compatable.
>
>At this point, I repeat, QUAKE3 TEST DOES NOT SUPPORT POWERVR!!! Gazing
>into your crystal ball and saying "therefore Q3Arena and everything else
>WILL support it." is nothing short of a lie. If you're in close with John
>Carmack, have him post about future supported video modes of Quake3. I'm
>sure we'd all like to be enlightend.
>
>And Benchmarks from a 98 edition of a magazine? Do you know how many TNT
>driver versions have been released since then? Are you really this far
>behind that you read 18 month old magazines?
>
>So next time YOU post, maybe you should try getting recent information and
a
>general working knowledge of video systems before you make another 1/2
assed
>attempt at sounding informed.
>
>and KBS0 was nothing more than a tormented teen-ager desperately seeking
>attention. He left as soon as others ignored him, which is what people may
>want to do the next time you give a lenghty incorrect summary of some
>"vaporware" board that you want to argue about.
>
>
> Al Capone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Al Capone
really very seriously doubt PowerVR support will be added to Quake3 Arena or
very many other games. I could count the games that support it that were
released in the last 6 months on 2 hands.
PowerVR is dead.
Al Capone
Al Capone
bran <br...@tig.com.au> wrote in message news:7op74c$l73$1...@toto.tig.com.au...
> I feel annoyed by u al capone, seems u are taking over this newsgroup!!!!
>
Bran, I really don't care about your feelings. What I do care about is
accurate information and people learning the correct answers right from the
get-go. I HAVE dominated in this newsgroup for over a year. Where have YOU
been? Maybe you should go check out DejaNews and take a look at this NG's
postings for the past 12 months before your "feelings" get hurt any more.
Al Capone
Al Capone
why the Irish hate you limey crooked toothed inbred Brits? Because of a
little thing called freedom. Maybe you've heard of the IRA.
Now take your english head out of that mutton bowl and try talking about
something that has to do with hardware or software. This is a Voodoo2
newsgroup, not a hereditary clinic for the inbred challenged.
Al Capone
Christopher Hill
comes out, I suppose.
Well done! You have reearnt my respect!
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Al Capone <W...@told.you> wrote in message
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Al Capone
> > Well done! You have reearnt my respect!
> --
Honestly, I don't care about your respect. I only care about facts.
Al Capone
Christopher Hill
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Al Capone <W...@told.you> wrote in message
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Matt
people in this ng that are better at helping others than you. From what
I've read you think you're the 3dfx god around here. In reality you're
nothing more than a hopeless computer nerd. By the way, when's your
13th birthday, I want to send you a card.
--
Matthew Nowak
cha...@ptd.net
Al Capone wrote:
>
> I'll remember that next time I see a post from you having problems basil.
> Good luck getting support from 3DFX short of "reinstall the drivers".
>