Quake 2 and Voodoo Banshee...any good?
Chad Olson
could let us in on their experiences with it and Quake2. I have a P233,
and am curious what sort of framerates to expect once I rid myself of
this Voodoo Flush. All the comparisons I usually see are somebody with
a PII 450. Thanks in advance.
- Chad
Paul R.
Depending on your memory (hopefully you have 64MB) you should see 35+ FPS at
640x480.
Although I don't have a banshee card I did have a Pure3D card and now a V2
and can give you the results of those.
My Machine P200MMX OC'ed to 225, 64MB w/ Pure3D and DX6 and WIN95
Demo1 @640x480 = 35FPS
Same machine but OC'ed to 263 w/Voodoo2 12MB
Demo1 @ 800x600 = 50FPS
If I had a Pent2 the result would a bit better. Also my PCI sound card robs
me of about 4-5FPS. All these are with sound ON.
If I got 35FPS with a Voodoo1 Pure3D ay 640x480 on a P225, you should get
more with a Banshee. My guess is going to be about 40FPS. Even though the
Banshee will run at a higher clock speed than even a Voodoo2 it only has 1
TMU (texture processor) so will underperform the Voodoo2 in dual-texturing
capable games such as Quake2 and Unreal. It will beat the Voodoo2 in most
other glide games however. For under $100.00 US you can't go wrongwith a
Banshee card, especially if a Voodoo2 is not in your future.
Chad Olson wrote in message <3610781E...@home.com>...
notawiz
>
> I'm wondering if someone out there with a Banshee in his/her hands
> could let us in on their experiences with it and Quake2. I have a P233,
> and am curious what sort of framerates to expect once I rid myself of
> this Voodoo Flush. All the comparisons I usually see are somebody with
> a PII 450. Thanks in advance.
>
> - Chad
D300. I hated the velocity because it wouldn't do the quakes without a
bunch of bullshit downloading and patches and tweaks. I always had to
reboot after using the opengl games because the desktop was left with
garbage graphics after returning to windows. But I can't get the games
to work right with this card either. Quake II will run in a small window
in the center of the desktop and no matter what I do it won't go to a
full screen. glquake will run but only at about 1 frame per 10 secs.
Basically its locked up but I can get out of the game without a reboot
if I wait long enough. Jedi Knight will start up using about 3/4 of the
top left corner of the desktop but when the game level actually starts
the screen goes black and the computer locksup. Needs to be rebooted to
get back to normal. Banshee comes with display properties tab and in
there is a test button for the different functions. When I test the
glide 2.x the screen goes black, sometimes hitting esc will return me
sometimes have to reboot. I kinda thought that the glide drivers were
missing or wrong or whatever so I donloaded the grtvgr.exe and ran it.
Got a message saying there are no drivers for my hardware configuration.
I don't want to take the Banshee back because it sounds quite a bit
better than the Velocity 128 and it is supposed to work with quakes
right out of the box. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Paul R.
on the 3dfx.banshee newsgroup? It seems unlikely that 3dfx would release a
card that has so many problems with all these popular games.
Spooky
1. F1sim wont detect it,have to run in D3D
2. Quake 2 timedemo 1 gives me 17.5fps in OpenGL 800x600
The board says no version of OpenGl is present?
So how does it run?
It runs in 1024 as well? Looks real smooth
3. Ultimate Race voodoo2 version says
did not detect glide2.dll
It still run really well in1024?
What the fuck is going on?
Grand Prix Legends runs in 1024 fine?
Any ideas
I have an AMD K6 300mhz
I think the card is good its just the drivers are messed up
I down loaded newer ones 28/9/98
But these mad Quake2 run in software only?
The drivers were dgp98rc2
These came from 3dfx extreme site
Im confused?
Jason
Skew
wrote:
Man what a drag. Check the FAQ for the manufacturer of your video
card first. Then check the FAQ for 3DFX to see if others are having
the same problem. If no one else is then rotate your dimms if you
have 2 of them you may a bad dimm. PII machines usually share memory
with your video card. Ignore my memery comment if your banshee card
isnot AGP.
Jake
just kidding.
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dave
having alot of reboot type problems while exiting games ,,,im waiting for
dimonds updated drivers to come out which will be hopefully soon ...but i
haver got it to run the games excellent ...quake unreal and turok all run
great in gl... where i run into problems is when i exit a gamw or switch
screen res i get a genral protection fault in dibkng.dll so im hoping that
this will be corected with there new drivers ..guess ill have to wait and
see but im not giving up just yet ....so far when its runing corectly the
performance in both 2d and 3d is great
Jake wrote in message <361D7C3D...@enter.net>...
Maliki
Glideswitch to goto my sli setup runs like a charm!
On Sat, 03 Oct 1998 09:44:29 -0400, notawiz <not...@somtel.com>
wrote:
>Chad Olson wrote:
>>
>> I'm wondering if someone out there with a Banshee in his/her hands
>> could let us in on their experiences with it and Quake2. I have a P233,
>> and am curious what sort of framerates to expect once I rid myself of
>> this Voodoo Flush. All the comparisons I usually see are somebody with
>> a PII 450. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> - Chad
Rick
wrote:
>I'm wondering if someone out there with a Banshee in his/her hands
>could let us in on their experiences with it and Quake2. I have a P233,
>and am curious what sort of framerates to expect once I rid myself of
>this Voodoo Flush. All the comparisons I usually see are somebody with
>a PII 450. Thanks in advance.
>
>- Chad
I've got one in my machine as I am typing this right now, got it last
night and still havn't got it to run 3dfx in Quake 2, it will run
default open GL but is too dark to see, never I think Creative shipped
it to the shelves before getting ALL the bugs out. They're tech
support guys can't even figure out why it won't run right. But when it
was running in the too dark default open GL it looked gorgeous and
liquid smooth at 600x800 C-ya.
P233
64 megs SD ram
1.2 gig
Creative Labs Blaster PCI Banshee Voodoo 2 16 megger
Ticket
I also have a PCI Banshee card and CAN'T FOR THE LIFE OF ME GET IT TO
WORK WITH QUAKE2 !!!ARGHHHH.
I am running a P-120 w/128MB EDO-RAM.
Ticket...
Scott Roderick
Scott
http://www.proaxis.com/~scott
Rick <mis...@gte.net> wrote in message 701cc6$cmo$1...@news-2.news.gte.net...
Scott Roderick
Scott
http://www.proaxis.com/~scott
"I assume you have installed the miniGL driver off the CL Banshee CD and
placed it within the proper Quake directory? I had the exact same message
until I realized the miniGL drivers were on the CD. BTW I'm using a "beta"
miniGL driver for both Quake and Quake II (which I got off one of these
newsgroups). I'm not sure if this is even a Banshee driver or not (because
it says Voodoo2 when starting Quake II) but it works great for me (better
than the miniGL drivers off the CD). You CANNOT Alt-Tab out of your games
though, otherwise your computer will lock up (or so I've been told, never
tried it). As I said, these are beta drivers but if you want good Quake
performance, I'd recommend them. Attached is the BETA miniGL driver.
Replace it with the one in your Quake II directory. For Quake, just rename
it to opengl32.dll and place it in your Quake directory.
Nollind"
Daniel J Cheek
every time I try, it hangs at some point...I also have a Creative 3D Banshee
danno
Scott Roderick wrote in message <706b3h$bmj$1...@supernews.com>...
Well I'm going to get on soon so I can't help you right now but once I get
mine and try it out, I then could possible help you out. It's pretty much to
new for getting alot of tech support here on it.
Scott
http://www.proaxis.com/~scott
Rick <mis...@gte.net> wrote in message 701cc6$cmo$1...@news-2.news.gte.net...
pc
> I just bought the Banshee to replace my velocity 128 card on my Dell PII
> D300. I hated the velocity because it wouldn't do the quakes without a
> bunch of bullshit downloading and patches and tweaks. I always had to
> reboot after using the opengl games because the desktop was left with
> garbage graphics after returning to windows. But I can't get the games
> to work right with this card either. Quake II will run in a small window
> in the center of the desktop and no matter what I do it won't go to a
> full screen. glquake will run but only at about 1 frame per 10 secs.
> Basically its locked up but I can get out of the game without a reboot
> if I wait long enough. Jedi Knight will start up using about 3/4 of the
> top left corner of the desktop but when the game level actually starts
> the screen goes black and the computer locksup. Needs to be rebooted to
> get back to normal. Banshee comes with display properties tab and in
> there is a test button for the different functions. When I test the
> glide 2.x the screen goes black, sometimes hitting esc will return me
> sometimes have to reboot. I kinda thought that the glide drivers were
> missing or wrong or whatever so I donloaded the grtvgr.exe and ran it.
> Got a message saying there are no drivers for my hardware configuration.
> I don't want to take the Banshee back because it sounds quite a bit
> better than the Velocity 128 and it is supposed to work with quakes
Sounds like operator error, both with the Velocity 128 and Banshee. There are
ways to get your setup working, but I suggest that you just format and
reinstall after you backup your data. It's a chore, but your system will end
up running alot better afterwards.
pc
pc
pc
pc
pc
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Michael A.Landry
I am also having problems with the Banshee and am almost ready to go back to
my combo cards, kind of disappointed. But.... some problems are fixed when
you are using Win 98, what a rip though, have to spend 95 bucks to get the
card working. On the good side the card is a dream for what it is, the games
that work, work great, Unreal is just unreal with the card (need the patch
though) my biggest question is: Is there a patch for Quake or GL quake?//
need it bad I Miss my Quake and am going into with drawls, starting to shake
and drool uncontrollably LOL So if anybody can help pl;ease do thanks
Mike
Jeffrey Pool
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 00:03:10 -0600, Chad Olson <chad....@home.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I'm wondering if someone out there with a Banshee in his/her hands
>>could let us in on their experiences with it and Quake2. I have a P233,
>>and am curious what sort of framerates to expect once I rid myself of
>>this Voodoo Flush. All the comparisons I usually see are somebody with
>>a PII 450. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>- Chad
i've got a pentium 200 with 48 mb sdram, and i put my new banshee in
last night... i also cannot manage to get quake II running in open gl
mode. what gives? it sure upped my 2d by a ton though... i got tomb
raider 2 and jedi knight running beatifully though
bigzed
>could let us in on their experiences with it and Quake2. I have a P233,
>and am curious what sort of framerates to expect once I rid myself of
>this Voodoo Flush. All the comparisons I usually see are somebody with
>a PII 450. Thanks in advance.
>
>- Chad
Chad, I dont have a Banshee but I do have a P233MMX with a 12mb CL V2 64mb
ram and I was getting 30fps in Quake2.
But after using 3 Fingers Tweaks I got it up to just under 50fps. It runs
like a dream, so I can delay getting the CPU upgrade a little longer.
I would imagine that you should get frame rates similar.
someone
bigzed schrieb in Nachricht <71pbo5$8j7$1...@news.3dfx.com>...
>
>Chad Olson wrote in message <3610781E...@home.com>...
>>I'm wondering if someone out there with a Banshee in his/her hands
>>could let us in on their experiences with it and Quake2. I have a P233,
>>and am curious what sort of framerates to expect once I rid myself of
>>this Voodoo Flush. All the comparisons I usually see are somebody with
>>a PII 450. Thanks in advance.
>>
i have a P2 233 (overclocked at 266)
64 Mb sdram
and a Voodoo Banshee
Quake2 640 * 480 and 800 * 600 in timerefresh 70 -80 fps
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I have a Pentium 166 classic with a Voodoo² 8 mb and can get up to
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Phil Foran
CL Banshee 16 mb
AMD K62-300
64 meg ram
Timedemo 1
demo1.dm2
vsycnc on
640x480 29.4 fps
800x600 29.3 fps
1024x768 28.8 fps (as high as my monitor will go )
This is untweaked installed from the box......the 3dnow drivers do not work
with banshee as yet. The picture quality is excellent (q1 runs at 57 fps at
800x600 ) In 2d the card is about 3 times faster then the Rush it replaced,
in direct X games it flys at 1024x768!
Overall I am VERY happy with it...
Hope this helps
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ThUnDeR
batter performance than the rage 2 iwht 4 megs it replaced ;)=
how eveer I am told I need openGL drivers or 3dfx drivers.. I dont know
enugh about the current technology, and ned to get pointed in the right
direction.
opengl and 3dfx are 2 seperate drivers?
do I use one or the other?
which one is best for me?
where do I find the drivers? (I have looked to no avail)
I have a 166 MMX, 64 megs ram and CL banshee.
thanks :)=
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ThUnDeR wrote in message <36582...@nemo.idirect.com>...
Christian Svangren
>i've got a pentium 200 with 48 mb sdram, and i put my new banshee in
>last night... i also cannot manage to get quake II running in open gl
>mode. what gives? it sure upped my 2d by a ton though... i got tomb
>raider 2 and jedi knight running beatifully though
It is a driver issue. Download the newest miniGL drivers. try at
www.billsworkshop.com
/Chris
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