Re: [LB Residents Forum]The Ardee School in Planet Lotier - Meeting Invite

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Nitin Agrawal

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*********Meeting time : 23-Dec-2013 8 PM Planet Lotier Club, Lotus boulevard **** with 3C Management ************************

Hi All

We around 50 people meet today to discuss this issue and reach to a concurrence. 

We spoke to school management, FM team, and Marketing team but could not got any clear information. The following points were discovered 

1. School management is stating that they have bought this facility. Marketing team does not have this information.
2. School is accepting the admission from residents of nearby sectors.
3. School is given the time slot to even use the club facility like swimming pool, TT room etc for their pupils.
4. This work and coordination has been done by the 3c Project team.
5. It seems that this facility was secretly opened. 

As immediate action the residents have asked FM team to ensure that no outsider should be allowed access to school until the dispute has been resolved.

Considering the addendum clause of MSA (i..e No outsiders are allowed to use any facility of club and LB) all the residents have the opinion that we need the written assurance from 3c and school management that NO OUTSIDER WILL BE ALLOWED in the school and any other facility of the LB. Moreover the school was the part of the original plan including the creche and day care for the LB residents.

The written memorandum has been given to FM team mentioning the same.

FM team has scheduled a meeting with 3c Management and Project team for tomorrow.

Meeting Time : 23 Dec 2013 8 PM
Venue: Planet Lotier Club, 3c Lotus boulevard

I request you all to present in this meeting. 

This email is also shared with the google and yahoo group of buyers of future phases as well so that they can also come for the meeting.

Regards
Nitin Agrawal





On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:28 AM, sukhdev sandhu <ss_s...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ok. let us not panic but meet @12 at reception area in the club. we will find out the solution of the problem.
It is not a new problem created by 3C. Just 10 months ago, when I sent strongly worded email to 3C to oppose their monopolistic practices for club operations, some of us objected that it was a threatening being given to 3C.

Thanks,
Sukhdev



Subject: Re: [LB Residents Forum] Re: Fwd: The Ardee School in Planet Lotier - Attention !!!!!
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From: agrawa...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 04:40:17 +0000

The registration would again start around 12 pm today so let's meet in a small group of 10-15 people around 12 in club and the will go to talk to school management to re confirm that the outsiders are allowed. We would also see the whole facility from inside as well.

Accordingly we can have a meeting in the evening in the evening to decide how to go about it.

The prime agenda is NO OUTSIDERS in any facility in the club.
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From: Anil Arya <anil...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:40:55 +0530

Subject: Re: [LB Residents Forum] Re: Fwd: The Ardee School in Planet Lotier - Attention !!!!!

Agreed. Let's meet today, 11AM at club house ?


On Dec 22, 2013 9:08 AM, "Rahul Varshney" <Rahul.V...@snpower.com> wrote:
I suggest, we find out more on the real facts and discuss in person to deliberate this. How about a meeting today? This is serious and grave and with more residents coming in, it will be difficult to make them agree.

Vbr

Rahul Varshney
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On 22-Dec-2013, at 9:04, "C Venkat Ramana Rao" <cvr...@gmail.com> wrote:

How can the 40% of the club house be allocated to a School which makes it profit on money spent by all the residents. Totally unacceptable. We should promptly have a meeting with 3C and ask them to stop it. 

Even starting a creche for only residents should be discussed beforehand. This was probably the reason why 3C was keeping the ownership of Club in its hand.

Regards,
Venkat


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:55 AM, VIVEK SRIVASTAVA <vivek...@gmail.com> wrote:
Meeting with top mgmt of 3C, FM & FRA is long overdue.
Last meeting was atleast 4-5 months back.
Regards,
Vivek Srivastava
On Dec 22, 2013 8:39 AM, <manish...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Good Morning ,

I just got to know this last evening , its good that the discussion has started and I am sure this is one agenda in which everybody's thought will be in line. This is non negotiable . I remember this club house and its area was the most strong selling point , they kept on mentioning 1 lac sqft club house , biggest in Noida , how they can do this.
I remember they did mentioned that there will be a creche and day care which is still acceptable as it will be only for residents but a entire school that too open for outsiders , don't know where they will give ground space etc ..this will certainly eat our space . Also as everybody had mentioned security will be a big issue for sure .

Some body has to write a strong mail to all the concern authority and management . Come what may go we need to do immediate action .

Manish Gautam
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From: Mohit Arora <moar...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 00:09:13 +0530
To: Nitin Agarwal<agrawa...@gmail.com>
Subject: [LB Residents Forum] Re: Fwd: The Ardee School in Planet Lotier - Attention !!!!!

agreed. this needs to b taken up with 3c strongly

On 21 Dec 2013 23:54, "Nitin Agrawal" <agrawa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paras,
 
We have checked all the parts of the school and it is almost 40% of the total club area.
 
If the outsiders would be allowed then who will ensure the saftey and security of our kids and family members. Any body could walked into LB with the reason of school and thereafter can do anything with our kids and family.
 
No objection in opening a very good facilty like play school in LB but allowing the outsider is not acceptable and it is illegal.
 
Regards
Nitin Agrawal
 
 


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Paras <para...@gmail.com> wrote:
We should immidietely call a meeting.they have sold significant 20% clup portion to outsider.it is highly untoletable.

From: GUPTA Gaurav
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My view is that this issue needs to be taken up strongly with 3C , as based on current facts this looks like to be the case of clear violation of terms and condition of MSA . Regd Gaurav
 
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Date: Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 9:19 PM
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Hi All,
 
This is bring to notice of you all that 'The Ardee School' has been inaugurate in the Planet lotier.
 
Does any body know this ?
 
 
In one of the meeting 3c clearly stated that they will not open the school/crèche and this area will be converted as community hall. 
 
Surprisingly when we enquired on the given number, we were told that this play school is accepting the admission from all the nearby sectors. This is confirmed by the school management.
 
As per the MSA the facilities in the Club is only meant for the Residents and outsiders are not allowed to use any of the facility in the club.
 
Who will ensure the security when anybody everybody can walk-into LB campus?
 
Today the school is opened for the outsiders tomorrow it will be Gym, Swimming pool, banquet hall and so on.....
 
No objection on opening the school unless it is only for the kids from LB.
 
We all need to come close and act before it is too late.......
 
Regards
Nitin Agrawal
 
 
 








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This is very serious and admission of outsiders should be stopped. Is it possible to put a notice on gate and in club area informing non Lb residents that residents will not allow kids and parents from outside to enter premise.

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This is unacceptable. We have paid all the money for constructing this club, 3C has not spent even a dime from there own pocket, then how can they take such unilateral decisions. 

This is LB residents property and I am wondering how can 3C sell the school facility. It can NOT be sold, as its residents property. 

3C is behaving like ministers, with no accountability and doing whatever fills there pocket. If we don't fight now, we will loose lot more.


Regards,
Manjeet Singh

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Vikas Rana

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Dec 22, 2013, 5:37:37 AM12/22/13
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What is this school business ? The initial plan was for a LVS pre primary only. What is all this nonsense! 

Vikas Rana

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Dec 22, 2013, 5:39:26 AM12/22/13
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What is this school business ? The initial plan was for a LVS pre primary only. What is all this nonsense! 


On 22-Dec-2013, at 3:41 PM, "PG Gmail" <garg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sanjay Gupta

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Dec 22, 2013, 7:07:53 AM12/22/13
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We all should strict with  3C that Outsiders are not allowed and we had agreement for same.

Regards
Sanjay T5/1003



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Vinay Gupta

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Dec 22, 2013, 10:47:31 PM12/22/13
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If this is a confirmed news, let us send a legal notice to them and if required take them to Courts.

At least we will get a stay order and perhaps nobody would want to send their kid to a school which is under legal hassles. It's not correct to write this but parents who are sending their kids to this school at least would come to know that it is not a legalised property.

That's the only option left unless the issue is resolved amicably.

Vinay

feroz khan

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Dec 22, 2013, 11:50:10 PM12/22/13
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Yes we need to take some actions asap. It's a members club not a proprietary one and the properties of the club vest in the members.

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Dipak Purwar

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Dec 22, 2013, 11:56:07 PM12/22/13
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In addition to writing to 3 c, we should have some kind of meeting  with lot of members and owners at the site , it will send the message to parents who are sending their kids to school that some thing is wrong. 

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Sanjay Gupta

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Dec 23, 2013, 12:20:19 AM12/23/13
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HI Guys,

Form RWA immediately, this is also mandated by UP Apartment act 2010. Attached is the act for your perusal. Page number 13 -14 clearly states it must be initiated immediately.

Please read this act thoroughly and it is eye opener.

Regards
Sanjay


Apartment Act-English.pdf

DEVINDER SINGH

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Dec 23, 2013, 2:58:35 AM12/23/13
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Hi!

this is serious; we need to give strong message to 3c.

Regds
Dev

sumeet

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Dec 23, 2013, 1:08:52 PM12/23/13
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Below is a cut-paste from school's website, "letter to parents". Claim is not only upon club facilities but other facilities outside the club!!!
Letter also says "preference to ardeeian parents/friends/family" so their intentions are very clear.

JUNIOR SCHOOL CAMPUS
TheNoida campusat sector 100 ,is a pre-primary school ,from NIDO (age 16 months]to environment III ( age 8+yrs) This campus for younger ardeeians is ready for admissions from
NIDO to environment 1. We invite you to personally visit the air-conditioned state of the art campus, which includes a dedicated Montessori lab, art, music, theater, literature and IT
pavilions, outdoor and indoor amphitheater, a swimming pool and a kitchen for fresh home style meals.
School buses will ply from Delhi and ot
her neighboring areas, for children in
environment 1 and upward. The school is an independent building, within a housing project
known as Lotus Boulevard, sector 100, Noida

feroz khan

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All common facilities e.g. lifts, staircases, parks, open area, club house are part of super build-up area and owned by the residents as we have already paid for it and provided from residents money only. Ideally builders should not charge any club membership fee because they have not spent any money to build this. 
 

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suchit gupta

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Dec 23, 2013, 10:00:25 PM12/23/13
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Let's get on the table - 3C's calculation for super area, carpet area and any other area.
 
Those who are yet to receive the posseion should also come along as this is cocerned to everybody.

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All common facilities e.g. lifts, staircases, parks, open area, club house are part of super build-up area and owned by the residents as we have already paid for it and provided from residents money only. Ideally builders should not charge any club membership fee because they have not spent any money to build this. 
 

Mohit

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Soon banquet hall will be open for whole world...!!

Then Residents can enjoy Party all night...!!!

Mohit Arora
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