Brown Recluse Bites Face
Ollie S.
I have this friend who really fucked up about an hour ago. We were
all kinda drunk, he was blitzed. Got to talking about spiders and the
other friends house we are at said he knew where a whole family of
brown recluse spiders lived under a log in his back yard.
So, Jimmy, that is the idiots name that was so drunk he couldn't
hardly walk, said he didn't even think they were poisonous. Everybody
was talking about which types of spider bites were the worst and
everything, you know.
Jimmy starts screaming that brown recluse spiders weren't nothing,
they were not nowhere near as poisonous as a black widow and some
other kind of spider he kept mumbling about, I couldn't even hear
everything he was mumbling. Anyway, he starts getting mad and saying
he doesn't think that brown recluse spiders are even dangerous or
anything.
The other friend starts screaming back at him to prove it, then, prove
it. He dares Jimmy to let him pick the log up and to lay his head
there. I am laughing my ass off and telling Jimmy he is really going
to get fucked up, and he starts yelling at me and telling me to shut
up and shit.
I say fine, motherfucker, go ahead and put your big old head under the
log. Well, he does. And he just lays there and says see, see, brown
recluse spiders ain't shit. The other friend says you have to let
them crawl up on your face then see how you like it.
Well, Jimmy does. This crazy motherfucker lets them bite him. He
finally thinks he has had enough and gets up bragging about how tough
he is. We go inside and count 9 bites. 2 on his forehead, 4 all
around his neck, and the other 3 on his cheeks.
About 2 minutes later the drunk ass passes out on the couch. I think
he passed out from being drunk, brown recluse can't really kill you
can they? I don't give a damn what it does to his face, he wasn't
worried so I'm not either. I would hate to see him die though, I
guess I could take him to the hospital if I needed too.
My question is, if you get bit by that many brown recluse spiders, can
it kill you from the venom? Like I say, I don't give a shit if his
face falls off from it, that ain't my problem.
Ollie
Penn...@derrymaine.gov
>My question is, if you get bit by that many brown recluse spiders, can
>it kill you from the venom? Like I say, I don't give a shit if his
>face falls off from it, that ain't my problem.
Too good to clip, wish I wrote half as well straight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider
says to stick your friends head in the freezer as soon as possible...
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"Ollie S." <Oll...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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So that's how they end up looking like they do. <g>
You write very well for a drunk guy.
Ollie S.
> "Ollie S." <Oll...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> My question is, if you get bit by that many brown recluse spiders, can
>> it kill you from the venom? Like I say, I don't give a shit if his
>> face falls off from it, that ain't my problem.
>
> Too good to clip, wish I wrote half as well straight.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider
> says to stick your friends head in the freezer as soon as possible...
>
Well, we are at a house about 2 hrs. away from the nearest hospital.
He is still passed out drunk and doesn't seem to be in any pain,
sleeping like a baby. He probably wouldn't want to go to a hospital
anyway, he would just bitch about the money, the drunk bastard.
I read what you linked to and followed a couple of links from that
page and saw what it said about putting ice on the bites. But, I don't
guess we can do that now. His girlfriend started freaking out when
the welts starting growing all over his face. They are about the size
of a nickel, I guess, looking kind of weird.
Anyway, this crazy bitch says she wants to put butter on his face, I
shit you not. Straight butter is gobbed up on his face now, he looks
like a breakfast plate. I am not even going to tell them about the
ice, then somebody is going to have to wipe all that fucking butter
off, and his girlfriend is out drunk now.
I sure as hell ain't going to be wiping like a bucket of butter off
his face. He is breathing and everything and is mumbling in his sleep
when one of us push him or something, so he is fine.
What an idiot. He is going to wake up tomorrow with the good fortune
of being able to look forward to his face rotting off. My friend, the
genius.
Ollie
Penn...@derrymaine.gov
Ya I've seen shows and read articles of people loosing arms and such
after being bit by a Recluse spider. Good chance those nickel size
welts get worse, skin fall off and him have huge pits on his face for
the rest of his life. - as you've indicated, and that's if he's lucky.
As for death, that's rare
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiders_having_medically_significant_venom
under Measurements (Loxosceles - Reclusa)
Amazing story, with a butter cure :)
Penn...@derrymaine.gov
>As for death, that's rare
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiders_having_medically_significant_venom
>under Measurements (Loxosceles - Reclusa)
Link from there http://spiders.ucr.edu/dermatol.html
"This venom is an interesting one from the dermatologic standpoint
73-76. In self-healing wounds, the bite site may not progress past an
edematous erythema; these wounds do not become necrotic and
non-intrusive care is sufficient. In more serious wounds, a
"bull's-eye" wound may form where a central erythematous bleb is
separated from a peripheral cyanotic region by a white zone of
induration. If the bite becomes violaceous with the first few hours,
this usually indicates that severe necrosis may occur 74,75 and more
supportive measures are necessary. The initial bleb gives way to
ischemia. A central eschar forms, hardens and within 7-14 days the
eschar falls out leaving behind an ulcerated depression. The necrosis
may continue to spread from the bite site possibly due to an
autoimmune response73,74.
Symptoms start 2-6 h after the bite73. By 12-24 h, it is usually
apparent if a Loxosceles wound is going to become necrotic; if
necrotic symptoms do not express by 48-96 hr, then they will not
develop 59. Antivenom was very successful when administered within 24
h 80 but many times, a victim does not seek treatment until after
necrosis is well underway (more than 24 h) and therefore, antivenom is
less effective. Systemic effects usually take 2-3 days to show
symptoms 59. Bites that become systemic do not also become necrotic;
it is thought that in necrotic wounds the venom is localized in the
tissue whereas in systemic reactions the venom is distributed quickly
into the body and without necrotic local effects 59. The wound is
usually free of bacterial infection for the first 2-3 days but may be
contaminated by patients due to pruritis 74. Recluse venom can exhibit
extended necrosis in adipose tissue of thighs, buttocks and abdomen of
obese patients; there is also a gravitational flow of the venom
effects 59,74,76. Healing can take weeks to months and may leave a
unsightly scar."
Rectum Burn
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> My question is, if you get bit by that many brown recluse spiders, can
> it kill you from the venom? Like I say, I don't give a shit if his
> face falls off from it, that ain't my problem.
Is he dead yet?
Rectum Burrrrrrrn
Plato
>
> Ya I've seen shows and read articles of people loosing arms and such
> after being bit by a Recluse spider. Good chance those nickel size
Very rare.
> welts get worse, skin fall off and him have huge pits on his face for
Yes they often get worse and often you have to deal with pus and rotted
flesh about a half dollar in size for over a year.
Plato
>
> "bull's-eye" wound may form where a central erythematous bleb is
Right. The "bulls eye" wound is often just like a bite from an infected
deer tick w/lyme disease. If you'r lucky.
Plato
>
> I have this friend who really fucked up about an hour ago. We were
> all kinda drunk, he was blitzed. Got to talking about spiders and the
> other friends house we are at said he knew where a whole family of
> brown recluse spiders lived under a log in his back yard.
Personally I've been bit twice and my daughter once. My partners's
girlfried got bit once also. No need for the hospital unless you
immediately feel sick. You may not notice the bite or it may feel like a
very mild bee sting. You may get a silver dollar size redmark/scab in a
week and it may last a year for the scab to heal. Or, your entire thigh
may get all red if bit on the thigh or half your back may get red if bit
on the back.
The brown recluse hates humans and will bite you just cause they hate
you. In both my cases I was in a crawl space under the kitchen and
rolled over them and in the process of their dying I guess they slugged
me one :)
ps the brown recluse is a VERY fast runner...
Jan
me...@meatplow.local says...
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:30:22 +0000, Ollie S. Has Frothed:
> probably won't die but he will wish he had. The venom destroys tissue and
> also causes your body's own immune system to destroy the surrounding
Sounds like everyone is believing this story!