Wanna buy my windoze??
G. Morgan
http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-7-Pro-32-Bits-/250721001720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6022e0f8
Item condition: "Brand New"
Be sure to take note of the seller's feedback rating!
Desk Rabbit
Must be rts or chucktard
OldGringo38
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VanguardLH
Tool late. Went there. It said:
"This listing (250721001720) has been removed, or this item is not
available."
richard
I'd like to know why it was such an illegal item.
If I go to a store and buy a copy of a windows disk, it is now my property
and I have the legal right to sell it. M$ can't do a damn thing about it.
Desk Rabbit
laid out by the license which you agree to when you install the software
they provide on a disk.
richard
All M$ products readily available. So what was so wrong with the other guy?
Meat Plow
I don't know why so many people don't understand software licensing.
--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
richard
What about when the item is being sold as a "sealed package"?
That means the licensing issue is not an issue.
Same as if you had bought it in a store.
Still, it is my legal property and I have the LEGAL right to sell it.
As far as I am concerned, the restrictions placed on usage by M$ are in
violation of the DMCA and other copyright laws. Federal law already allows
ME, the owner, to use MY copy in any manner I see fit as often as I want.
The only reason M$ has those restrictions is to scare YOU into buying more
copies for any other machine(s) you may have.
richard
Read the DMCA. That law already gives the owner of the material the right
to use as they see fit. As often as they want. What is illegal, is to make
a copy and sell that copy.
e.g. I buy a music CD in a store. Make a copy of it. Give, or sell, you the
original.
That is 100% legal.
Meat Plow
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:47:11 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:30:38 +0000, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/11/2010 17:26, richard wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 05:44:22 -0500, G. Morgan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Check this retard out (before eBay yanks it)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-7-Pro-32-Bits-/250721001720?
>> pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6022e0f8
>>>>>
>>>>> Item condition: "Brand New"
>>>>>
>>>>> Be sure to take note of the seller's feedback rating!
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to know why it was such an illegal item. If I go to a store
>>>> and buy a copy of a windows disk, it is now my property and I have
>>>> the legal right to sell it. M$ can't do a damn thing about it.
>>> No dumbass, you buy a license to use Windows within a set of
>>> parameters laid out by the license which you agree to when you install
>>> the software they provide on a disk.
>>
>> I don't know why so many people don't understand software licensing.
>
> Read the DMCA.
I know about licensing. It was part of the exams leading up to my M$
certification. It was also on the Cisco and Novell exams.
OEM license dies with the PC. Proof of that in on way is you get one
sticker with the Product code on it to affix to the newly built PC.
You don't own the disc, just a license to use it. Similar to an
operator's license. Does not necessarily mean you own the truck but
rather you are licensed to operate it.
Music is different. You don't install it on a PC. It doesn't run other
applications.
Sorry you don't understand the difference but that's your problem.
Aardvark
> Richard the Sto0pid babbled:
>> I'd like to know why it was such an illegal item. If I go to a store
>> and buy a copy of a windows disk, it is now my property and I have the
>> legal right to sell it. M$ can't do a damn thing about it.
> No dumbass, you buy a license to use Windows within a set of parameters
> laid out by the license which you agree to when you install the software
> they provide on a disk.
You're wasting your time, mate. It's been explained to RtS countless
times and he still insists on coming out with that shit.
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no hace mucho tiempo que vivía un hidalgo de los de lanza en
astillero, adarga antigua, rocín flaco y galgo corredor."
-Cervantes, 'Don Quixote'
Beauregard T. Shagnasty
> Meat Plow wrote:
>> I don't know why so many people don't understand software licensing.
Bullis is certainly one of them who has no idea.
> Read the DMCA. That law already gives the owner of the material the right
> to use as they see fit. As often as they want.
On one computer, at one time.
> What is illegal, is to make a copy and sell that copy.
Whoohoo, I think you got one right!
> e.g. I buy a music CD in a store. Make a copy of it. Give, or sell,
> you the original. That is 100% legal.
That is 100% ILLegal. You would be permitted to give/sell both the
original _and_ the backup copy you made to one person as one sale. If
you retain a copy, you are subject to arrest, fines, hoosegow.
--
-bts
-Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
Mike Yetto
The "Right of First Sale" is not part of the DMCA, but the body
of Copyright Law.
>e.g. I buy a music CD in a store. Make a copy of it. Give, or sell, you the
>original.
>That is 100% legal.
No, it isn't. Your copy is only legal as an archive or backup.
You can sell it legally.
Mike "RtS, never more than half right" Yetto
--
In theory, theory and practice are the same.
In practice they are not.
Mike Yetto
There are at least two cases now pending or under appeal in US
Federal Court that deal with the "Right of First Sale" regarding
copyrighted software and the ability of a company to curtail that
right with a carefully worded "End User License Agreement". This
is not a cut and dried issue.
Mike "it affects video rental and libraries as well" Yetto
Desk Rabbit
As long as they are brand new sealed and unused items (With a couple of
exceptions which I won't even try to explain to you as you haven't been
able to grasp the basics yet), then there is nothing wrong with them.
As per usual you are talking from a point of ignorance again and without
knowing the facts. The item description showed a picture of a recordable
DVD medium with a hand written description on the disk. Patently not an
original sealed and unused disk and very much a copy.
~BD~
> The item description showed a picture of a recordable
> DVD medium with a hand written description on the disk. Patently not an
> original sealed and unused disk and very much a copy.
Indeed - in a see-through plastic envelope!
It certainly could not be described an 'as new' item!
Did you report this to eBay?
Desk Rabbit
~BD~
OK - Thanks :)
Perhaps Mr Morgan will advise?
If he didn't, methinks he *should* have done so!
Desk Rabbit
Aardvark
Someone obviously did.