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m...@privacy.net

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Sep 27, 2010, 6:35:16 PM9/27/10
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What PC monitor would make a good "TV" when used with a
cable box or external TV tuner?

OldGringo38

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Sep 27, 2010, 7:06:07 PM9/27/10
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On 9/27/2010 5:35 PM Just to please that super-ego, m...@privacy.net wrote
the following tidbit of information:

> What PC monitor would make a good "TV" when used with a
> cable box or external TV tuner?
The one that you like best.

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Jordan

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Sep 27, 2010, 7:45:59 PM9/27/10
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On 9/28/2010 8:35 AM, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> What PC monitor would make a good "TV" when used with a
> cable box or external TV tuner?

I don't think there's any particular requirement to make it work.
I tried this for a while, but got bored with having to fire up a
computer to watch TV. Also, when playing DVDs, there was a synch problem
- sound & vision were not happening together.
Otherwise, it was OK.

Jordan

chuckcar

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Sep 27, 2010, 11:17:08 PM9/27/10
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m...@privacy.net wrote in news:tv62a61h7boplgg38...@4ax.com:

> What PC monitor would make a good "TV" when used with a
> cable box or external TV tuner?

What are you going to do for sound?

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Dan C

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Sep 27, 2010, 11:23:48 PM9/27/10
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 03:17:08 +0000, chuckcar wrote:

> m...@privacy.net wrote in news:tv62a61h7boplgg38...@4ax.com:
>
>> What PC monitor would make a good "TV" when used with a cable box or
>> external TV tuner?
>
> What are you going to do for sound?

Irrelevant to the question that was asked, you dumb fuck.

My guess would be to use an A/V receiver/amp and surround speakers. The
screen/TV is not required in any manner for sound.

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Brian Cryer

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Sep 28, 2010, 10:10:38 AM9/28/10
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> What PC monitor would make a good "TV" when used with a
> cable box or external TV tuner?

Its worth comparing the contrast and response times for a monitor with that
for a tv. An expensive tv will probably support a greater contrast value
than an expensive monitor. Response times may also be better on a tv,
especially if it supports 100hz or better.

The other way of approaching it is what TVs would make a good PC monitor.
One or more HDMI inputs on a TV are common, but you need a suitable graphics
card. A graphics card which can output sound as well as video (you can get
them) is a good choice here.

Hope this helps.
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m...@privacy.net

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Sep 28, 2010, 11:51:30 AM9/28/10
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Jordan <ko...@koora.net> wrote:

>I don't think there's any particular requirement to make it work.
>I tried this for a while, but got bored with having to fire up a
>computer to watch TV. Also, when playing DVDs, there was a synch problem
>- sound & vision were not happening together.
>Otherwise, it was OK.

Would you agree that it is best to buy a "TV" for TV
watching and a computer "monitor" for computing
then....and NOT try and make one set of gear do double
duty?

m...@privacy.net

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Sep 28, 2010, 11:52:07 AM9/28/10
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Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:

>My guess would be to use an A/V receiver/amp and surround speakers. The
>screen/TV is not required in any manner for sound.

yeah was thinking on doing the above

Meat Plow

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Sep 28, 2010, 12:10:21 PM9/28/10
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I own a 32" LCD that blows my 22" LG widescreen monitor away when it
comes to watching video. There is no comparison in contrast ratio and
just general vividness of color/picture. And the LG monitor is highly
rated but again it doesn't compare. The 32" tv has a VGA input and if I
had enough room on the monitor shelf of this computer desk, the 32" tv
would be sitting there instead of the LG 22" monitor.

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Mike Yetto

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Sep 28, 2010, 1:08:24 PM9/28/10
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m...@privacy.net <m...@privacy.net> writes and having writ moves on.
>Jordan <ko...@koora.net> wrote:

The Samsung HDTV in my living room has a PC monitor input as well
as a 3.5mm stereo jack. That combined with a 25foot combined
monitor/audio cable allows me to use it with my laptop as a 46"
1920X1080 monitor.

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richard

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Sep 28, 2010, 1:21:20 PM9/28/10
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Both are technically the same thing. One has a tv tuner while the other
does not.
I have watched tv on my monitor with no noticeable difference.

richard

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Sep 28, 2010, 1:25:06 PM9/28/10
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My 20 inch acer widescreen has video output nearly equal to my 32" LCD tv.
The tv has all the inputs so I can hook up the PC to it if I want, which I
haven't done yet but will soon.

Jordon

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Sep 28, 2010, 1:32:31 PM9/28/10
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My 47" Sony works quite well as a monitor and with the audio
out on the PC going into the home theater system, the sound
is fantastic.

Meat Plow

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Sep 28, 2010, 2:33:19 PM9/28/10
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47" is a little big for a PC monitor. The 32" is in my bedroom near this
PC. I've used both in the past for dual monitor in Adobe Audition to have
my mixer on the 22" and the recorded waveforms on the 32" to edit.

I'm looking at a 55" or 60" plasma to replace the aging 51" Panasonic
progressive scan rear projector now 10 years old in my living room.
The prices have really come down and one that I'm interested in has
internet connectivity. I'll probably do much more research before I
lay down money but the top contenders so far are Samsung and Panasonic.
Samsung makes a lot of the plasma screens for different manufactures
so I'm leaning more in that direction.

chuckcar

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Sep 28, 2010, 3:15:47 PM9/28/10
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m...@privacy.net wrote in news:ro34a69eiahdnuqmp...@4ax.com:

Don't feed the troll's. the fact of the matter is, you'll have to
separate the sound from the video signal. something the reciever in the
TV does.

Jordon

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Sep 28, 2010, 3:01:42 PM9/28/10
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Meat Plow wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:32:31 -0700, Jordon wrote:
>
>> Meat Plow wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:51:30 -0500, me wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jordan<ko...@koora.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think there's any particular requirement to make it work. I
>>>>> tried this for a while, but got bored with having to fire up a
>>>>> computer to watch TV. Also, when playing DVDs, there was a synch
>>>>> problem - sound& vision were not happening together. Otherwise, it

>>>>> was OK.
>>>>
>>>> Would you agree that it is best to buy a "TV" for TV watching and a
>>>> computer "monitor" for computing then....and NOT try and make one set
>>>> of gear do double duty?
>>>
>>> I own a 32" LCD that blows my 22" LG widescreen monitor away when it
>>> comes to watching video. There is no comparison in contrast ratio and
>>> just general vividness of color/picture. And the LG monitor is highly
>>> rated but again it doesn't compare. The 32" tv has a VGA input and if I
>>> had enough room on the monitor shelf of this computer desk, the 32" tv
>>> would be sitting there instead of the LG 22" monitor.
>>
>> My 47" Sony works quite well as a monitor and with the audio out on the
>> PC going into the home theater system, the sound is fantastic.
>
> 47" is a little big for a PC monitor.

Not with the TV being about 10' from the couch.

> The 32" is in my bedroom near this
> PC. I've used both in the past for dual monitor in Adobe Audition to have
> my mixer on the 22" and the recorded waveforms on the 32" to edit.
>
> I'm looking at a 55" or 60" plasma to replace the aging 51" Panasonic
> progressive scan rear projector now 10 years old in my living room.
> The prices have really come down and one that I'm interested in has
> internet connectivity.

Good for steaming Netflix movies. I just can't make it work very
well using a computer. I've got great bandwidth and a good video
card and a fast CPU, but the video looks bad. Thinking about
getting one of those Roku boxes.

m...@privacy.net

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Sep 28, 2010, 3:23:52 PM9/28/10
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Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote:

>> 47" is a little big for a PC monitor.
>
>Not with the TV being about 10' from the couch.

But does Windows text look bad on it? Too small to
read?

Jordon

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Sep 28, 2010, 3:29:29 PM9/28/10
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Not at all and I've got bad eyesight. If I do come across
too small, "ctrl-mouse roller" works in many programs to
enlarge the text.

Meat Plow

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Sep 28, 2010, 4:19:04 PM9/28/10
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:01:42 -0700, Jordon wrote:

> Meat Plow wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:32:31 -0700, Jordon wrote:
>>
>>> Meat Plow wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:51:30 -0500, me wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jordan<ko...@koora.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think there's any particular requirement to make it work. I
>>>>>> tried this for a while, but got bored with having to fire up a
>>>>>> computer to watch TV. Also, when playing DVDs, there was a synch
>>>>>> problem - sound& vision were not happening together. Otherwise,
>>>>>> it was OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you agree that it is best to buy a "TV" for TV watching and a
>>>>> computer "monitor" for computing then....and NOT try and make one
>>>>> set of gear do double duty?
>>>>
>>>> I own a 32" LCD that blows my 22" LG widescreen monitor away when it
>>>> comes to watching video. There is no comparison in contrast ratio and
>>>> just general vividness of color/picture. And the LG monitor is highly
>>>> rated but again it doesn't compare. The 32" tv has a VGA input and if
>>>> I had enough room on the monitor shelf of this computer desk, the 32"
>>>> tv would be sitting there instead of the LG 22" monitor.
>>>
>>> My 47" Sony works quite well as a monitor and with the audio out on
>>> the PC going into the home theater system, the sound is fantastic.
>>
>> 47" is a little big for a PC monitor.
>
> Not with the TV being about 10' from the couch.

Maybe with better eyesight than I got.


>> The 32" is in my bedroom near this
>> PC. I've used both in the past for dual monitor in Adobe Audition to
>> have my mixer on the 22" and the recorded waveforms on the 32" to edit.
>>
>> I'm looking at a 55" or 60" plasma to replace the aging 51" Panasonic
>> progressive scan rear projector now 10 years old in my living room. The
>> prices have really come down and one that I'm interested in has
>> internet connectivity.
>
> Good for steaming Netflix movies. I just can't make it work very well
> using a computer. I've got great bandwidth and a good video card and a
> fast CPU, but the video looks bad. Thinking about getting one of those
> Roku boxes.

From what little I've researched some of the 55"-60" plasma sets don't
need any external devices and get streamed movies right off the net. All
that's needed is a broadband connection. Mine is more than capable at 18
Mb/s. However I have a DVR with HDMI out and on demand movies look great
at 1080P on the 32". I'm sure I'll have plenty to learn with the new set.
Some of them can do web stuff like Facebook, Myspace Youtube etc..

cully when

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Sep 28, 2010, 5:44:42 PM9/28/10
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I have a Samsung (sp) SyncMaster T240HD(Digital) monitor that doubles as
a 1080p HDMI TV. VGA in from PC, HDMI in from upconvert DVD player and
standard cable in for local HD channels. Also upconverts from satellite.

Most monitors (pc or TV have connections for TV or PC with standard
audio out if you don't want to use the monitor speakers. Monitors with
VGA inputs handle sound very well.

Jordon

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Sep 28, 2010, 6:16:12 PM9/28/10
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Yep. Unfortunately mine doesn't have one and the PC fails miserably.

> Mine is more than capable at 18
> Mb/s. However I have a DVR with HDMI out and on demand movies look great
> at 1080P on the 32".

Does the DVR have an RJ45 connector? So you're getting streaming
video off the internet through the DVR?

Dan C

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Sep 28, 2010, 10:03:32 PM9/28/10
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Absolute horseshit. A cable box/DVR has seperate sound outputs, which
can be routed to an A/V rcvr/amp for driving speakers. The video is a
seperate output from the cable box.

You ignorant fuck.

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The Old Sourdough

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Evan Platt mumbled in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:15:47 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <ch...@nil.car>
> wrote:

>>Don't feed the troll's.

> Don't feed them apostrophes.

Yup, them feral apostrophes can be ravenous when they smell
food....

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Meat Plow

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Sep 29, 2010, 9:52:51 AM9/29/10
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:03:32 +0000, Dan C wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:15:47 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>
>> m...@privacy.net wrote in
>> news:ro34a69eiahdnuqmp...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>My guess would be to use an A/V receiver/amp and surround speakers.
>>>>The screen/TV is not required in any manner for sound.
>>>
>>> yeah was thinking on doing the above
>>
>> Don't feed the troll's. the fact of the matter is, you'll have to
>> separate the sound from the video signal. something the reciever in the
>> TV does.
>
> Absolute horseshit

Is what you post 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the
time

Dan C

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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:52:51 +0000, Meat Plow wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:03:32 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:15:47 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>>
>>> m...@privacy.net wrote in
>>> news:ro34a69eiahdnuqmp...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>My guess would be to use an A/V receiver/amp and surround speakers.
>>>>>The screen/TV is not required in any manner for sound.
>>>>
>>>> yeah was thinking on doing the above
>>>
>>> Don't feed the troll's. the fact of the matter is, you'll have to
>>> separate the sound from the video signal. something the reciever in
>>> the TV does.
>>
>> Absolute horseshit
>

> Is<BITCHSLAP>

Hush, troll.


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joevan

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Sep 29, 2010, 10:09:14 AM9/29/10
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On 29 Sep 2010 14:03:53 GMT, Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid>
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:52:51 +0000, Meat Plow wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:03:32 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:15:47 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>>>
>>>> m...@privacy.net wrote in
>>>> news:ro34a69eiahdnuqmp...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>My guess would be to use an A/V receiver/amp and surround speakers.
>>>>>>The screen/TV is not required in any manner for sound.
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah was thinking on doing the above
>>>>
>>>> Don't feed the troll's. the fact of the matter is, you'll have to
>>>> separate the sound from the video signal. something the reciever in
>>>> the TV does.
>>>
>>> Absolute horseshit
>>
>> Is<BITCHSLAP>
>
>Hush, troll.

Go tell you mama that she needs you. Nobody else does.

Meat Plow

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Sep 29, 2010, 10:10:27 AM9/29/10
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The DVR is attached to an F connector. The DVR has an IP address so it's
getting TCP/IP via the F connector just like my cable modem. All the
INDemand/ OnDemand stuff and SDW (switch digital video) I consider
streaming from the cable company head end. No it's not "from the
internet" but still gets here via TCP/IP. This is all possible by using
fiber from the head end to each node. Then from the node to coax into the
homes. Not sure how many homes a node can serve, maybe up to 255?

Dan C

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Sep 29, 2010, 10:40:32 AM9/29/10
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Didn't you claim to have me plonked? Why do you keep responding to my
posts?

Bugger off, troll.


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Meat Plow

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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:03:53 +0000, Dan C wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:52:51 +0000, Meat Plow wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:03:32 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:15:47 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>>>
>>>> m...@privacy.net wrote in
>>>> news:ro34a69eiahdnuqmp...@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>My guess would be to use an A/V receiver/amp and surround speakers.
>>>>>>The screen/TV is not required in any manner for sound.
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah was thinking on doing the above
>>>>
>>>> Don't feed the troll's. the fact of the matter is, you'll have to
>>>> separate the sound from the video signal. something the reciever in
>>>> the TV does.
>>>
>>> Absolute horseshit
>>

>> <UN-BITCHSLAP>

>> Is what you post 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the

>> time.
>
> Hush, troll.

Someone hurry and bang on the PKB gong.

joevan

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On 29 Sep 2010 14:40:32 GMT, Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid>
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:09:14 -0400, joevan wrote:
>
>> On 29 Sep 2010 14:03:53 GMT, Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:52:51 +0000, Meat Plow wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:03:32 +0000, Dan C wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:15:47 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> m...@privacy.net wrote in
>>>>>> news:ro34a69eiahdnuqmp...@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My guess would be to use an A/V receiver/amp and surround speakers.
>>>>>>>>The screen/TV is not required in any manner for sound.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yeah was thinking on doing the above
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't feed the troll's. the fact of the matter is, you'll have to
>>>>>> separate the sound from the video signal. something the reciever in
>>>>>> the TV does.
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolute horseshit
>>>>
>>>> Is<BITCHSLAP>
>>>
>>>Hush, troll.
>
>> Go tell you mama that she needs you. Nobody else does.
>
>Didn't you claim to have me plonked? Why do you keep responding to my
>posts?
>
>Bugger off, troll.

It is too much fun to bother you. Idiot.

Dan Litov

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Sep 29, 2010, 6:49:39 AM9/29/10
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Dan C wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 03:17:08 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>
>> m...@privacy.net wrote in news:tv62a61h7boplgg38...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> What PC monitor would make a good "TV" when used with a cable box or
>>> external TV tuner?
>> What are you going to do for sound?
>
> Irrelevant to the question that was asked, you dumb fuck.

>
> My guess would be to use an A/V receiver/amp and surround speakers. The
> screen/TV is not required in any manner for sound.
>
>
>
Some monitors have speakers built in them you stupid cocksucking fuck.

Dan C

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Sep 29, 2010, 5:22:42 PM9/29/10
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So you lied about the plonking. Thanks for admitting that.

> Idiot.

Troll.

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joevan

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Sep 29, 2010, 5:50:39 PM9/29/10
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On 29 Sep 2010 21:22:42 GMT, Dan C <youmust...@lan.invalid>
wrote:

Trolls don't know the truth when they see it so I am not worried. I
lie all the time. So you figure it out stupid, idiot troll.

Dan C

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Sep 29, 2010, 11:14:29 PM9/29/10
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Hehe. Public admittance of being a liar. Cred gone.

PWNED!


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