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§nühw¤£f
that many sadistic cops?
http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-times/
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philo
> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are there
> that many sadistic cops?
> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-times/
>
>
Good old Chicago cops
I recall that when I was in school
we took a bus trip to Chicago to visit the Museum of Science and Industry.
There was a nice traffic jam due to some woman's car being stalled
and everyone was honking at her...but she did not know what to do.
Finally a nice police man showed up and I said to myself:
"Now things are going to get all straightened out."
He walked up to the car and growled at her : "Move it lady!"
When she told him the car had stalled and she could not move it...
he wrote her out a ticket for obstructing traffic
then walked away.
Eventually our bus got past her.
She's probably still there
Aardvark
> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are there
> that many sadistic cops?
> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-
times/
Although there are coppers here in the UK certified and qualified to carry
and use tasers, and I've heard that they are occasionally used (in
extremis), I've never actually seen one.
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Aardvark
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:46:29 -0700, §nühw¤£f wrote:
>
>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>> there that many sadistic cops?
>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-
> times/
>
>
> Although there are coppers here in the UK certified and qualified to
> carry and use tasers, and I've heard that they are occasionally used (in
> extremis), I've never actually seen one.
BTW download and watch the following. Highly recommended:
< http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4054645/Ross_Kemp_in_Afghanistan_%
28Complete_Series%29 >
You know how to handle a broken link, mate.
Aardvark
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:46:29 -0700, §nühw¤£f wrote:
>
>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>> there that many sadistic cops?
>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-
> times/
>
>
> Although there are coppers here in the UK certified and qualified to
> carry and use tasers, and I've heard that they are occasionally used (in
> extremis), I've never actually seen one.
BTW download and watch the following. Highly recommended:
< http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4054645/Ross_Kemp_in_Afghanistan_%
28Complete_Series%29 >
You know how to handle a broken link, mate.
--
richard
> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are there
> that many sadistic cops?
> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-times/
The taser has become a crutch to the cops. Don't like the attitude? Taser
the SOB. But this cop has a mental problem for sure. If he hasn't been
suspended or fired, he should be.
Once those things are fired, it takes a minute or two to reset them and
this asshole cop does it 11 times? What the hell were the paramedics doing
about it? None of his cop buddies said nothing? The way I see it, the whole
bunch of them should be sued.
If one shot can take a 300 pound man down, why do you even do it a second
time?
I was in florida last year at a motel. Lady cop shows up to evict a guy in
a room near mine. The door is locked from the inside with the keeper
attached. I noticed she had her taser in hand. I just shook my head in
disbelief. Like lady, you got any brains? Oh you're blonde, sorry. To open
the door, the door has to be fully closed first. So that in itself gives
her an edge. But her big buddy comes along to help out. Still has taser in
hand. Totally ignorant cop for sure.
richard
> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are there
> that many sadistic cops?
> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-times/
This ruling came a tad late for the above case. But will keep it from being
repeated, we hope.
richard
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:46:29 -0700, �n�hw��f wrote:
>
>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are there
>> that many sadistic cops?
>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-
> times/
>
>
> Although there are coppers here in the UK certified and qualified to carry
> and use tasers, and I've heard that they are occasionally used (in
> extremis), I've never actually seen one.
http://www.break.com/index/fun-with-taser-guns.html
First shows the results of being hit with one. You may want to turn the
volume down.
Second is the company that makes most of the them.
Old BadardDough is an old bastard.
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:46:29 -0700, �n�hw��f wrote:
>
>
> Once those things are fired, it takes a minute or two to reset them and
> this asshole cop does it 11 times? What the hell were the paramedics doing
> about it? None of his cop buddies said nothing? The way I see it, the whole
> bunch of them should be sued.
A football star lets his brother drive his expensive car for a night out
on the town by himself.
The cops pulled him over. Several of them showed up. They hand-cuffed
the man and took him to the ground.
While they were standing around chatting, one of the cops decided he was
going to sit on the man's chest. The cop sat on the man's chest for a
long time and cut off the man's ability to breath.
The man died on the spot.
HEMI-Powered
...
> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
> are there that many sadistic cops?
> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-
> 11-times/
REAL "law abiding citizens" have nothing to fear from the police.
If one isn't breaking the law and isn't interferring with the cops
doing their duty, they won't get a taser attack.
It's interesting to me that in real life, criminals are pretty
dumb, unlike the TV crime shows. They are also generally guilty,
unlike the cop shows. "Don't do the crime if you can't do the
time".
--
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"Efficiency is doing things right, effectiveness is doing the right
things" - Peter Drucker
The Old Sourdough
> §nühw¤£f added these comments in the current discussion du jour
> ...
>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
>> are there that many sadistic cops?
>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-
>> 11-times/
> REAL "law abiding citizens" have nothing to fear from the police.
Don't get out much, do you?
> If one isn't breaking the law and isn't interferring with the cops
> doing their duty, they won't get a taser attack.
This man did, for nothing more than being ill. Oh wait, it must
have been his own fault for being a diabetic. Or maybe if he was
genetically predisposed, it's his own fault for picking his
parents? Shame on him.
> It's interesting to me that in real life, criminals are pretty
> dumb, unlike the TV crime shows. They are also generally guilty,
> unlike the cop shows. "Don't do the crime if you can't do the
> time".
You mean Rush must have really been a drug addict, and "Scooter"
Libby must have really done what he was convicted of? Those weren't
"politically motivated" prosecutions?
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§nühw¤£f
They built an overpass just for her...
§nühw¤£f
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:36:19 +0000, Aardvark wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:46:29 -0700, §nühw¤£f wrote:
>>
>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-
>> times/
>>
>>
>> Although there are coppers here in the UK certified and qualified to
>> carry and use tasers, and I've heard that they are occasionally used (in
>> extremis), I've never actually seen one.
>
> BTW download and watch the following. Highly recommended:
>
> < http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4054645/Ross_Kemp_in_Afghanistan_%
> 28Complete_Series%29 >
>
> You know how to handle a broken link, mate.
>
§nühw¤£f
> �n�hw��f added these comments in the current discussion du jour
> ...
>
>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
>> are there that many sadistic cops?
>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-
>> 11-times/
>
> REAL "law abiding citizens" have nothing to fear from the police.
> If one isn't breaking the law and isn't interferring with the cops
> doing their duty, they won't get a taser attack.
>
> It's interesting to me that in real life, criminals are pretty
> dumb, unlike the TV crime shows. They are also generally guilty,
> unlike the cop shows. "Don't do the crime if you can't do the
> time".
>
Your utter lack of critical thinking skills are noted, and mocked, again.
Now go stand in the corner.
philo
> philo wrote:
>> �n�hw��f wrote:
>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-times/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Good old Chicago cops
>>
>> I recall that when I was in school
>> we took a bus trip to Chicago to visit the Museum of Science and
>> Industry.
>>
>> There was a nice traffic jam due to some woman's car being stalled
>> and everyone was honking at her...but she did not know what to do.
>>
>> Finally a nice police man showed up and I said to myself:
>>
>> "Now things are going to get all straightened out."
>>
>> He walked up to the car and growled at her : "Move it lady!"
>>
>> When she told him the car had stalled and she could not move it...
>> he wrote her out a ticket for obstructing traffic
>>
>> then walked away.
>>
>> Eventually our bus got past her.
>>
>>
>> She's probably still there
>
> They built an overpass just for her...
>
>
>
ROTFLMAO!
Aardvark
> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:36:19 +0000, Aardvark wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 15:46:29 -0700, §nühw¤£f wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-
>>> times/
>>>
>>>
>>> Although there are coppers here in the UK certified and qualified to
>>> carry and use tasers, and I've heard that they are occasionally used
>>> (in extremis), I've never actually seen one.
>>
>> BTW download and watch the following. Highly recommended:
>>
>> < http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4054645/Ross_Kemp_in_Afghanistan_%
>> 28Complete_Series%29 >
>>
>> You know how to handle a broken link, mate.
>>
> I'm pretty sure I can watch it off the Sky1 website...
Y'know, that never even crossed me mind.
:-)
chuckcar
news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
> there that many sadistic cops?
> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-tim
> es/
>
Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time. Former
head of the Federation International de Autosport.
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chuckcar
news:Xns9CF41455FA6...@216.196.97.131:
> �n�hw��f added these comments in the current discussion du jour
> ...
>
>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
>> are there that many sadistic cops?
>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-
>> 11-times/
>
> REAL "law abiding citizens" have nothing to fear from the police.
> If one isn't breaking the law and isn't interferring with the cops
> doing their duty, they won't get a taser attack.
>
Bullshit. look up Robert Dziekanski. An innocent man killed by a taser.
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/10/26/taser-death-at-vanco.html
§nühw¤£f
device
can kill people and oftern does.
Dan C
> "HEMI-Powered" <no...@none.gn> wrote in
> news:Xns9CF41455FA6...@216.196.97.131:
>
>> §nühw€£f added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>>
>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-
>>> 11-times/
>>
>> REAL "law abiding citizens" have nothing to fear from the police. If
>> one isn't breaking the law and isn't interferring with the cops doing
>> their duty, they won't get a taser attack.
>>
>>
> Bullshit. look up Robert Dziekanski. An innocent man killed by a taser.
>
> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/10/26/taser-death-at-vanco.html
Looks to me like he was killed by his own stupidity.
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chuckcar
news:pan.2010.01...@moria.lan:
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:27:13 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>
>> "HEMI-Powered" <no...@none.gn> wrote in
>> news:Xns9CF41455FA6...@216.196.97.131:
>>
>>> §nühw€£f added these comments in the current discussion du jour
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-
>>>> 11-times/
>>>
>>> REAL "law abiding citizens" have nothing to fear from the police. If
>>> one isn't breaking the law and isn't interferring with the cops
>>> doing their duty, they won't get a taser attack.
>>>
>>>
>> Bullshit. look up Robert Dziekanski. An innocent man killed by a
>> taser.
>>
>> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/10/26/taser-death-at-vanco.html
>
> Looks to me like he was killed by his own stupidity.
>
>
Sorry, I don't answer statements from people who are already dead. You
surely must be with lack of active neurons that would be required to
come up with that answer.
chuckcar
> chuckcar wrote:
>> �n�hw��f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-t
>>> im es/
>>>
>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>
> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
> device
> can kill people and oftern does.
>
Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
torso.
Dan C
> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> chuckcar wrote:
>>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-t
>>>> im es/
>>>>
>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>
>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
>> device
>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>
> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
> torso.
Well, not really "through their torso". Through the flesh which is
between the two electrodes, which are a very short distance apart.
Quite a different thing.
Kadaitcha Man
> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:58:35 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>
>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-
t
>>>>> im es/
>>>>>
>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>
>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
>>> device
>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>
>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
>> torso.
>
> Well, not really "through their torso". Through the flesh which is
> between the two electrodes, which are a very short distance apart.
You completely dumb cunt. The high voltage courses through the whole body
trying to find a path to ground.
> Quite a different thing.
So would be the idea of you having a brain.
Aardvark
> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>> §nühw¤£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>> §nühw¤£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-t
>>>>> im es/
>>>>>
>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>
>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
>>> device
>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>
>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
>> torso.
>
> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
Or, as I was taught at college: "It's the volts that jolts, it's the mills
that kills".
HTH
§nühw¤£f
> �n�hw��f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> chuckcar wrote:
>>> �n�hw��f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-t
>>>> im es/
>>>>
>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>
>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
>> device
>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>
> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
> torso.
>
Circa 1978.
^_^
§nühw¤£f
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:12:05 -0800, Anyone wrote:
>
>> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>>> §nühw¤£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>> §nühw¤£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-t
>>>>>> im es/
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>>
>>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
>>>> device
>>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>>
>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
>>> torso.
>> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>
> Or, as I was taught at college: "It's the volts that jolts, it's the mills
> that kills".
>
> HTH
>
You can use it to light a ciggy even.
^_^
Respondant
> Aardvark wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:12:05 -0800, Anyone wrote:
>>
>>> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>>>> �n�hw��f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>>> �n�hw��f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-t
>>>>>>> im es/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
>>>>> device
>>>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>>>
>>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
>>>> torso.
>>> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>>
>> Or, as I was taught at college: "It's the volts that jolts, it's the
>> mills that kills".
>>
>> HTH
>>
> Its amazing what you can get out of a 9volt battery and a capacitor.
> You can use it to light a ciggy even.
Back in the days before electronic ignitions a popular prank among mechanics
was to load-up a condenser via spark plug wire, yell "Catch"! ... and throw
it at the new guy.
Bill
Dan C
> Dan C wrote on 02-Jan-10 20:27 ...
>> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:58:35 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>>
>>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-
seizure-11-t
>>>>>> im es/
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>>
>>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that
>>>> the device
>>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>>
>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
>>> torso.
>>
>> Well, not really "through their torso". Through the flesh which is
>> between the two electrodes, which are a very short distance apart.
>>
>> Quite a different thing.
>
> and precisely what makes you think any of that is accurate?
Any of what?
Aardvark
> chuckcar wrote:
>> §nühw¤£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>> §nühw¤£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-t
>>>>> im es/
>>>>>
>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>
>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
>>> device
>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>
>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
>> torso.
>>
> My mom has one of the original models. I bet its collectable. Circa
> 1978.
>
> ^_^
Power pack in a satchel with convenient carry strap for over the shoulder
for greater mobility?
:-)
§nühw¤£f
Nope. Simple device. About the size of a couple packs of cards laid end
to end longways with four electrodes (Two facing each other.) One button.
Takes a common 9volt battery. Non descript black with no logos or anything.
chuckcar
news:JfydnczbX7ioqN3W...@earthlink.com:
> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>> �n�hw��f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>> �n�hw��f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11
>>>>> -t im es/
>>>>>
>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>
>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that
>>> the device
>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>
>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
>> persons torso.
>
> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>
No, The amount is current which is determined by the force - voltage.
rf
"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
news:Xns9CF5DD2...@127.0.0.1...
You clearly know absolutely bloody nothing at all about electricity in
general and Ohms law in particular.
Groot van de Teringdrol
news:8sh0n.66782$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
> "chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CF5DD2...@127.0.0.1...
>> Anyone <""Zrqt³\"@Qi§QUm[§H:\"&z25u/g`MpEr)\"{ETq[opZ\"Vz.az?"> wrote
>> in news:JfydnczbX7ioqN3W...@earthlink.com:
>>
>>> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>>>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-
seizure-11
>>>>>>> -t im es/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that
>>>>> the device
>>>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>>>
>>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
>>>> persons torso.
>>>
>>> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>>>
>>>
>> No, The amount is current which is determined by the force - voltage.
>
> You clearly know absolutely bloody nothing at all about electricity in
> general and Ohms law in particular.
Funny how you should try to make yourself look intelligent by invoking
Ohm's Law on one hand and questioning why one should have a short a phone
extension cable as possible on the other.
Three strikes in three posts. Congratulations, tardlet. You are an
official fuckwit, along with chucktard and Bullis.
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news:JfydnczbX7ioqN3W...@earthlink.com:
> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>> §nühw¤£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>> §nühw¤£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>
>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or are
>>>>> there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-seizure-11-
t
>>>>> im es/
>>>>>
>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>
>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that the
>>> device
>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>
>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a persons
>> torso.
>
> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
Wrong, you fucked in the head, know-nothing fuckweed. Current kills.
Voltage does not. Humans can survive 100,000v at 10mA, but they will die
when hit by 1v at 100A.
You less than fucking useless idiot on a stick.
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Changes nyms faster than he changes his colostomy bag.
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And *another* kadaychacha kid colostomy change.
chuckcar
news:8sh0n.66782$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
>>>>>
>>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
>>>> persons torso.
>>>
>>> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>>>
>>
>> No, The amount is current which is determined by the force - voltage.
>
> You clearly know absolutely bloody nothing at all about electricity in
> general and Ohms law in particular.
>
ROFL. I'd say you just proved that about yourself.Ohms law is: E=IR or
with a tiny amount of algebra I=E/R. Or in english the amount of currect
is directly in proportion to the voltage and inversely to the
resistance. The resistance of the human body won't change - at least not
until it gets how enough to create steam, by which point you'd be dead
anyways.
E= electromotive force or voltage
I=a measure of the number of columbs/second or current in amps
R=resistance in ohms or in another way - friction counteracting voltage.
Respondant
You really ARE RtS in disguise, ain't ya?
Respondant
No. VOLTS will never kill you, CtS. It's AMPS that will do you in. To put
it in terms that even YOU might understand .... Volts are only a means
through wich AMPS travel. In other words, you could ground yourself in a
10000000000000000 volt line, but if there's only ONE AMP travelling through
the line at the time, you won't feel a thing.
> You clearly know absolutely bloody nothing at all about electricity in
> general and Ohms law in particular.
Clearly.
Dan C
> rf wrote:
>
>> "chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CF5DD2...@127.0.0.1...
>>> Anyone <""Zrqt³\"@Qi§QUm[§H:\"&z25u/g`MpEr)\"{ETq[opZ\"Vz.az?"> wrote
>>> in news:JfydnczbX7ioqN3W...@earthlink.com:
>>>
>>>> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>>>>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>>>> §nühw€£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
>>>>>>>> are there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-
seizure-11
>>>>>>>> -t im es/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>>>>>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that
>>>>>> the device
>>>>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
>>>>> persons torso.
>>>>
>>>> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No, The amount is current which is determined by the force - voltage.
>
> No. VOLTS will never kill you, CtS. It's AMPS that will do you in. To
> put it in terms that even YOU might understand .... Volts are only a
> means through wich AMPS travel. In other words, you could ground
> yourself in a 10000000000000000 volt line, but if there's only ONE AMP
> travelling through the line at the time, you won't feel a thing.
LOL, you're as clueless as he is.
STUPID ON DISPLAY!!!
Respondant
> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:11:12 -0500, Respondant wrote:
>
>> rf wrote:
>>
>>> "chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9CF5DD2...@127.0.0.1...
>>>> Anyone <""Zrqt�\"@Qi�QUm[�H:\"&z25u/g`MpEr)\"{ETq[opZ\"Vz.az?">
>>>> wrote in news:JfydnczbX7ioqN3W...@earthlink.com:
>>>>
>>>>> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>>>>>> �n�hw?�f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>>>>> �n�hw?�f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
>>>>>>>>> are there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-
>>>>>>>>> seizure-11 -t im es/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some
>>>>>>>> time. Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence
>>>>>>> that the device
>>>>>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
>>>>>> persons torso.
>>>>>
>>>>> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> No, The amount is current which is determined by the force -
>>>> voltage.
>>
>> No. VOLTS will never kill you, CtS. It's AMPS that will do you in.
>> To put it in terms that even YOU might understand .... Volts are
>> only a means through wich AMPS travel. In other words, you could
>> ground yourself in a 10000000000000000 volt line, but if there's
>> only ONE AMP travelling through the line at the time, you won't feel
>> a thing.
>
> LOL, you're as clueless as he is.
>
> STUPID ON DISPLAY!!!
Really? Please explain how volts kill . This should be good. Unless
you're just going to tell me to FORMAT C:
Respondant
And by the way Danny-dumb-ass? .... I'm an electrician by trade and I'd
really appreciate it if you would learn me more about how potential current
= current because that shit musta changed since I went ta school and stuff.
All I learnt about that shit years ago was anodes and cathodes and crap.
AND who is this Ohm dude people speak of? I don't even know him, yet I'm
inclined to resist him.
Bill
Kadaitcha Man
> On 3 Jan, 04:35, Kadaitcha Man <a...@no.email> wrote:
>> Dan C <youmustbejok...@lan.invalid> wrote:
>> > On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:58:35 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
>>
>> >> §nühw€£f <snuhw...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >>news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> >>> chuckcar wrote:
>> >>>> §nühw€£f <snuhw...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> >>>>news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> >>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
>> >>>>> are there that many sadistic cops?
>> >>>>>http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-
seizure-11-
>> t
>> >>>>> im es/
>>
>> >>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
>> >>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>
>> >>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that
>> >>> the device
>> >>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>
>> >> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
>> >> persons torso.
>>
>> > Well, not really "through their torso". Through the flesh which is
>> > between the two electrodes, which are a very short distance apart.
>>
>> You completely dumb cunt. The high voltage courses through the whole
>> body trying to find a path to ground.
>>
>> > Quite a different thing.
>>
>> So would be the idea of you having a brain.
>
> I agree.
As if I might care, yes?
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"Kadaitcha Man" <an...@no.email> wrote in message news:56g2wf$kr0$3...@unblushing-woman-of-loose-morals.co.tuvalu...
> Some sundry fundamentalist named Rogue Status vociferated:
>
> > On 3 Jan, 04:35, Kadaitcha Man <a...@no.email> wrote:
> >> Dan C <youmustbejok...@lan.invalid> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:58:35 +0000, chuckcar wrote:
> >>
> >> >>news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> >>
> >> >>> chuckcar wrote:
> >> >>>> §nühwâ,¬Â£f <snuhw...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> >>>>news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> >>
> >> >>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
> >> >>>>> are there that many sadistic cops?
> >> >>>>>http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-
> seizure-11-
> >> t
> >> >>>>> im es/
> >>
> >> >>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some time.
> >> >>>> Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
> >>
> >> >>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence that
> >> >>> the device
> >> >>> can kill people and oftern does.
> >>
> >> >> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
> >> >> persons torso.
> >>
> >> > between the two electrodes, which are a very short distance apart.
> >>
> >> You completely dumb cunt. The high voltage courses through the whole
> >> body trying to find a path to ground.
> >>
> >> > Quite a different thing.
> >>
> >> So would be the idea of you having a brain.
> >
> > I agree.
>
> As if I might care, yes?
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chuckcar
news:MPG.25abd34b8...@news.supernews.com:
> In article <hhtb0i$ikb$2...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Respo...@nonemail.not says...
>>
>> chuckcar wrote:
> High voltage electrical energy greatly reduces the body's
> resistance by quickly breaking down human skin. Once the skin is
> punctured, the lowered resistance results in massive current flow.
> Ohm's law is used to demonstrate the action.
> At 1,000 volts, Current = Volts/Ohms = 1,000/500 = 2 Amps
> which can cause cardiac arrest and serious damage to internal
> organs. "
>
>
I see what you're saying and it's also why lightning strikes are so
dangerous. You don't need a direct hit to be killed. However this whole
thread was the result of Tazers, which have prongs that break the skin.
The Old Sourdough
> Dan C wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:11:12 -0500, Respondant wrote:
snip
>>>
>>> No. VOLTS will never kill you, CtS. It's AMPS that will do you in.
>>> To put it in terms that even YOU might understand .... Volts are
>>> only a means through wich AMPS travel. In other words, you could
>>> ground yourself in a 10000000000000000 volt line, but if there's
>>> only ONE AMP travelling through the line at the time, you won't feel
>>> a thing.
>>
>> LOL, you're as clueless as he is.
>>
>> STUPID ON DISPLAY!!!
> Really? Please explain how volts kill . This should be good. Unless
> you're just going to tell me to FORMAT C:
Do your own reading.
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_3/4.html
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Dan C
> Dan C wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:11:12 -0500, Respondant wrote:
>>
>>> rf wrote:
>>>
>>>> "chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9CF5DD2...@127.0.0.1...
>>>>> Anyone <""Zrqt³\"@Qi§QUm[§H:\"&z25u/g`MpEr)\"{ETq[opZ\"Vz.az?">
>>>>> wrote in news:JfydnczbX7ioqN3W...@earthlink.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>>>>>>> §nühw?£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:hhof7l$eiq$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>>>>>> §nühw?£f <snuh...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:hhltsu$2go$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is it with cops and tasers? Are those things addictive or
>>>>>>>>>> are there that many sadistic cops?
>>>>>>>>>> http://rawstory.com/2009/01/chicago-cop-tasered-diabetic-
>>>>>>>>>> seizure-11 -t im es/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes and yes. You want *really* bad? look up Max Mosely some
>>>>>>>>> time. Former head of the Federation International de Autosport.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just g00gling "taser deaths" will brink up plenty of evidence
>>>>>>>> that the device
>>>>>>>> can kill people and oftern does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
>>>>>>> persons torso.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No, The amount is current which is determined by the force -
>>>>> voltage.
>>>
>>> No. VOLTS will never kill you, CtS. It's AMPS that will do you in.
>>> To put it in terms that even YOU might understand .... Volts are only
>>> a means through wich AMPS travel. In other words, you could ground
>>> yourself in a 10000000000000000 volt line, but if there's only ONE
>>> AMP travelling through the line at the time, you won't feel a thing.
>>
>> LOL, you're as clueless as he is.
>>
>> STUPID ON DISPLAY!!!
>
> Really? Please explain how volts kill . This should be good. Unless
> you're just going to tell me to FORMAT C:
Where did I claim that "volts kill"...?
That's right, I didn't.
Your cluelessness is a reference to *your* claim that grabbing onto a
line with 10000000000000000 volts on it "with only 1 amp flowing" would
result in nothing. You're stupid because: 1. You don't think 1 amp
will kill you? 2. As soon as you grab onto it, assuming you're standing
on the ground, there will be a LOT more than 1 amp flowing. All of it
right through your body.
Run along, junior. You don't know shit.
VanguardLH
> Respondant wrote:
>
>> Dan C wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:11:12 -0500, Respondant wrote:
>>>
>>>> rf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9CF5DD2...@127.0.0.1...
>>>>>> Anyone <""Zrqt�\"@Qi�QUm[�H:\"&z25u/g`MpEr)\"{ETq[opZ\"Vz.az?">
>>>>>> wrote in news:JfydnczbX7ioqN3W...@earthlink.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chuckcar wrote on 02-Jan-10 19:58 ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course it does. You're sending thousands of volts through a
>>>>>>>> persons torso.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _current_, not voltage, chucktard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, The amount is current which is determined by the force -
>>>>>> voltage.
>>>>
>>>> No. VOLTS will never kill you, CtS. It's AMPS that will do you in.
>>>> To put it in terms that even YOU might understand .... Volts are
>>>> only a means through wich AMPS travel. In other words, you could
>>>> ground yourself in a 10000000000000000 volt line, but if there's
>>>> only ONE AMP travelling through the line at the time, you won't feel
>>>> a thing.
>>>
>>> LOL, you're as clueless as he is.
>>
>> Really? Please explain how volts kill . This should be good. Unless
>> you're just going to tell me to FORMAT C:
>
> And by the way Danny-dumb-ass? .... I'm an electrician by trade and I'd
> really appreciate it if you would learn me more about how potential current
> = current because that shit musta changed since I went ta school and stuff.
> All I learnt about that shit years ago was anodes and cathodes and crap.
> AND who is this Ohm dude people speak of? I don't even know him, yet I'm
> inclined to resist him.
Apparently he didn't even attend highschool. Otherwise he would've seen all
those kids dying, uh huh, when the physics teacher had them touch a Van de
Graf generator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator) that
produces up to 5 MEGAVOLTS volts. The student touches one hand to make
their hair stand on end and make glow the fluorscent tube in their other
hand. That must've been one hell of a liability insurance policy that let
the physics teacher kill students every year as a new batch attended his
class.
And, of course, everyone that produces a static spark instantly dies.
That's why folks are so concerned about their bubble of safety in winter.
Uh huh.
The Old Sourdough
snip
>>>>
>>>> No. VOLTS will never kill you, CtS. It's AMPS that will do you in.
>>>> To put it in terms that even YOU might understand .... Volts are
>>>> only a means through wich AMPS travel. In other words, you could
>>>> ground yourself in a 10000000000000000 volt line, but if there's
>>>> only ONE AMP travelling through the line at the time, you won't feel
>>>> a thing.
>>>
If that 10000000000 whatever voltage supply is capable of pushing 1 amp
through the human body, it will kill you.
The Old Sourdough
snip
> Apparently he didn't even attend highschool. Otherwise he would've seen all
> those kids dying, uh huh, when the physics teacher had them touch a Van de
> Graf generator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator) that
> produces up to 5 MEGAVOLTS volts. The student touches one hand to make
> their hair stand on end and make glow the fluorscent tube in their other
> hand. That must've been one hell of a liability insurance policy that let
> the physics teacher kill students every year as a new batch attended his
> class.
> And, of course, everyone that produces a static spark instantly dies.
> That's why folks are so concerned about their bubble of safety in winter.
> Uh huh.
A Van de Graf generator produces a static charge. It also is not capable of
sourcing enough current to hurt you. A 110VAC household outlet capable of
supplying up to 15-20 amps will push enough current through your body to
send your heart into ventricular fibrillation.
No, it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the current, but if the
voltage source is also capable of supplying enough current, and your
body's resistance is low enough to allow that supply to push as little
as 50ma through the heart, it can kill you.
VanguardLH
> VanguardLH mumbled in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
> snip
>> Apparently he didn't even attend highschool. Otherwise he would've seen all
>> those kids dying, uh huh, when the physics teacher had them touch a Van de
>> Graf generator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator) that
>> produces up to 5 MEGAVOLTS volts. The student touches one hand to make
>> their hair stand on end and make glow the fluorscent tube in their other
>> hand. That must've been one hell of a liability insurance policy that let
>> the physics teacher kill students every year as a new batch attended his
>> class.
>
>> And, of course, everyone that produces a static spark instantly dies.
>> That's why folks are so concerned about their bubble of safety in winter.
>> Uh huh.
>
> A Van de Graf generator produces a static charge.
Yep, voltage. Even at super high voltage, the capacity isn't there to
delivery the current.
> It also is not capable of
> sourcing enough current to hurt you.
Amperage. You're on the wrong argument. The claim is that voltage kills.
Nope.
> A 110VAC household outlet capable of
> supplying up to 15-20 amps will push enough current through your body to
> send your heart into ventricular fibrillation.
Amperage again. Wrong argument again.
> No, it's not the voltage that kills you,
You're starting to get it.
> it's the current, but if the
> voltage source is also capable of supplying enough current,
Yep, if there is *capacity* to delivery the current based on old Ohm's law.
> and your
> body's resistance is low enough to allow that supply to push as little
> as 50ma through the heart, it can kill you.
Voltage is the argument. Having high voltage does NOT mean there will be
sufficient current. Otherwise a static shock walking across the carpet
would kill you because obviously there is enough high voltage across the
approx. 10Kohms of your body to produce a high enough current to kill you -
except there isn't the stored capacity to produce that current!
So the argument still stands that voltage doesn't kill. Current kills but
there has to be the capacity to DELIVER that current.
VanguardLH
> Respondant mumbled in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> No. VOLTS will never kill you, CtS. It's AMPS that will do you in.
>>>>> To put it in terms that even YOU might understand .... Volts are
>>>>> only a means through wich AMPS travel. In other words, you could
>>>>> ground yourself in a 10000000000000000 volt line, but if there's
>>>>> only ONE AMP travelling through the line at the time, you won't feel
>>>>> a thing.
>>>>
> snip
>
> If that 10000000000 whatever voltage supply is capable of pushing 1 amp
> through the human body, it will kill you.
So you are vehement agreement that voltage doesn't kill but current does.
The Old Sourdough
> The Old Sourdough wrote:
>> VanguardLH mumbled in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
>> snip
>>> Apparently he didn't even attend highschool. Otherwise he would've seen all
>>> those kids dying, uh huh, when the physics teacher had them touch a Van de
>>> Graf generator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_de_Graaff_generator) that
>>> produces up to 5 MEGAVOLTS volts. The student touches one hand to make
>>> their hair stand on end and make glow the fluorscent tube in their other
>>> hand. That must've been one hell of a liability insurance policy that let
>>> the physics teacher kill students every year as a new batch attended his
>>> class.
>>
>>> And, of course, everyone that produces a static spark instantly dies.
>>> That's why folks are so concerned about their bubble of safety in winter.
>>> Uh huh.
>>
>> A Van de Graf generator produces a static charge.
> Yep, voltage. Even at super high voltage, the capacity isn't there to
> delivery the current.
>> It also is not capable of
>> sourcing enough current to hurt you.
> Amperage. You're on the wrong argument. The claim is that voltage kills.
> Nope.
Read what I said.
>> A 110VAC household outlet capable of
>> supplying up to 15-20 amps will push enough current through your body to
>> send your heart into ventricular fibrillation.
> Amperage again. Wrong argument again.
Read what I said.
>> No, it's not the voltage that kills you,
> You're starting to get it.
>> it's the current, but if the
>> voltage source is also capable of supplying enough current,
> Yep, if there is *capacity* to delivery the current based on old Ohm's law.
>> and your
>> body's resistance is low enough to allow that supply to push as little
>> as 50ma through the heart, it can kill you.
> Voltage is the argument. Having high voltage does NOT mean there will be
> sufficient current.
I never said it did. Read what I wrote.
> Otherwise a static shock walking across the carpet
> would kill you because obviously there is enough high voltage across the
> approx. 10Kohms of your body to produce a high enough current to kill you -
> except there isn't the stored capacity to produce that current!
Read what I said.
> So the argument still stands that voltage doesn't kill. Current kills but
> there has to be the capacity to DELIVER that current.
Read what I said.
The Old Sourdough
> The Old Sourdough wrote:
Read what I said.