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PWB

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Apr 28, 2010, 12:30:38 PM4/28/10
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I have a windows 7 pc but I notice there is no email client on windows 7,
instead it uses windows live mail . My question is can you mak a rule and
folder for that rule to automatically use the folder when mail is
downloaded. If so can someone please tell m e how to go about it .

chuckcar

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Apr 28, 2010, 12:58:24 PM4/28/10
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"PWB" <pwb...@live.com> wrote in news:PoZBn.1453$ii2....@newsfe29.ams2:

> I have a windows 7 pc but I notice there is no email client on windows
> 7, instead it uses windows live mail .

That *is* a client - called Windows Mail. what hotmail is called in some
circumstances is Windows Live Mail. The use of both is confusing, but if
you get a windows that *isn't* your web browser and it's showing your
email, that's an email client.

> My question is can you make a rule and folder for that rule to


> automatically use the folder when mail is downloaded. If so can
> someone please tell m e how to go about it .
>

To do *what*? If you're trying to say check your mail, WM does that
automatically while it's running.

The program:

http://download.live.com/wlmail

The website:

http://download.live.com/wlmail


Yes, they're the same page - however if you look at the right side, you
will see that download - which includes *all* kinds of junk you *don't*
want, so don't - has the word "Mail" listed there. Hence Windows Mail.
The name change IMHO is probably the result of years of dealing with
such well deserved phrases such as "Outhouse Express".

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Jordon

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Apr 28, 2010, 1:13:44 PM4/28/10
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chuckcar wrote:
> "PWB" wrote

>> My question is can you make a rule and folder for that rule to
>> automatically use the folder when mail is downloaded. If so can
>> someone please tell m e how to go about it .

> To do *what*? If you're trying to say check your mail, WM does that
> automatically while it's running.

Isn't it pretty obvious that what he wants to do is create a
new folder and a new message rule that says when new messages
come in that that meet the rules criteria, to move them to the
new folder?

To the OP... sorry I can't help. I don't use Windows Mail or
Windows Live Mail.

PWB

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Apr 28, 2010, 1:15:31 PM4/28/10
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sorry to sort the messages into the designated folders ie. folders I have
created for different senders of emails to me.

"Jordon" <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
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richard

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Apr 28, 2010, 1:36:28 PM4/28/10
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WLM is not email. It is a messenger service. Basically, a live online one
on one chatroom. I never had a reason to use one.

As for email, don't you have at lease windows mail? Which replaced Outlook
Express. If not, try thunderbird from the firefox people. It is fairly
close to OE and WM.

PWB

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Apr 28, 2010, 2:09:52 PM4/28/10
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I dont knowor g why Richard but Windows 7 doesn't come with an email client
on it . I was thinking of Thunderbird , I guess I'll end up trying a few to
see what one I get on with best. I notice that one of the updates is a
choice of browser too, mind its a pity that IE is the only 64 bit browser or
I think I may change to FF as well Google Chrome, I notice Google has 64 bit
on Linux I wonder how much longer it'll be fore it's made for windows too .

"richard" <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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richard

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Apr 28, 2010, 2:27:14 PM4/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:30:38 +0100, PWB wrote:

Just for kicks I just installed WLM. While I was at the site, I noticed
that they have windows mail available as well. So if you don't have it, try
the messenger download site and install it.

Jordon

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Apr 28, 2010, 3:04:46 PM4/28/10
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PWB wrote:
> I dont knowor g why Richard but Windows 7 doesn't come with an email
> client on it . I was thinking of Thunderbird , I guess I'll end up
> trying a few to see what one I get on with best. I notice that one of
> the updates is a choice of browser too, mind its a pity that IE is the
> only 64 bit browser or I think I may change to FF as well Google Chrome,
> I notice Google has 64 bit on Linux I wonder how much longer it'll be
> fore it's made for windows too .

I just got out one of our laptops that's running 7 Home Premium
and in the start menu is Windows Live Mail. It looks to be an
email client. I was able to set up a gmail account but since it's
not connected to the internet I couldn't test it. But I didn't
find a way to create filters.

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Jordon

freemont

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Apr 28, 2010, 3:26:18 PM4/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:58:24 +0000, chuckcar writ:

> "PWB" <pwb...@live.com> wrote in news:PoZBn.1453$ii2....@newsfe29.ams2:
>
>> I have a windows 7 pc but I notice there is no email client on windows
>> 7, instead it uses windows live mail .
>
> That *is* a client - called Windows Mail. what hotmail is called in some
> circumstances is Windows Live Mail.

<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/looking-for-windows-mail>

<q>
You might have noticed that Windows Mail isn't included in Windows 7.
However, you can install an e‑mail program from another company or
Windows Live Mail—a free program that is part of Windows Live Essentials.
</q>

Windows Mail came with Vista. No email client is included by default with
7. Hotmail and Windows Live Mail are not the same thing in any way. One
is a webmail service, the other is an email client. Windows Mail and
Windows Live Mail are not the same thing, either.

On the ball as usual.
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chuckcar

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Apr 28, 2010, 4:42:50 PM4/28/10
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"PWB" <pwb...@live.com> wrote in
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> "Jordon" <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:hr9q44$spm$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> chuckcar wrote:
>>> "PWB" wrote
>>
>>>> My question is can you make a rule and folder for that rule to
>>>> automatically use the folder when mail is downloaded. If so can
>>>> someone please tell m e how to go about it .
>>
>>> To do *what*? If you're trying to say check your mail, WM does that
>>> automatically while it's running.
>>
>> Isn't it pretty obvious that what he wants to do is create a
>> new folder and a new message rule that says when new messages
>> come in that that meet the rules criteria, to move them to the
>> new folder?
>>
>> To the OP... sorry I can't help. I don't use Windows Mail or
>> Windows Live Mail.
>

> sorry to sort the messages into the designated folders ie. folders I
> have created for different senders of emails to me.
>

Sorry for not getting your point.

No email client from MS will do that. You need something better. Xnews,
Agent and others will do it.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Apr 28, 2010, 5:10:13 PM4/28/10
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chuckcar wrote:

> Sorry for not getting your point.

It appears you still haven't.

> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.
> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.

The person is looking for an email client, so you recommend newsreaders?

PWB: get Thunderbird.
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

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-Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Apr 28, 2010, 5:13:03 PM4/28/10
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richard wrote:

> WLM [Windows Live Mail] is not email.

Brilliant!

> It is a messenger service. Basically, a live online one
> on one chatroom. I never had a reason to use one.

Umm, what? "Windows Live Messenger?" <rof,l>

freemont

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Apr 28, 2010, 5:14:47 PM4/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:42:50 +0000, chuckcar writ:

> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better. Xnews,
> Agent and others will do it.

Xnews will sort email into folders? Explain how to set this up.

Jordon

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Apr 28, 2010, 5:24:48 PM4/28/10
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You mean no current MS client will do that. OE will.

freemont

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Apr 28, 2010, 5:24:52 PM4/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:30:38 +0100, PWB writ:

To create a folder: If you don't see the menu bar, hit your Alt key to
show it. Click File, point to New, and follow the menus to make a folder.

To create a message filter: Again show the menu bar if it's hidden, click
Tools, point to Message rules, click Mail and make your rule.

freemont

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Apr 28, 2010, 5:34:58 PM4/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:42:50 +0000, chuckcar writ:

> "PWB" <pwb...@live.com> wrote in

>> sort the messages into the designated folders ie. folders I
>> have created for different senders of emails to me.

> No email client from MS will do that.

Outlook, Outlook Express, Windows Mail or Windows Live Mail will do that.

When you don't have a clue, it's best to keep quiet Chuckaluck.

chuckcar

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Apr 28, 2010, 7:06:03 PM4/28/10
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Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
news:hra8qp$994$2...@news.eternal-september.org:

> chuckcar wrote:
>> "PWB"<pwb...@live.com> wrote in

>> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.


>> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.
>
> You mean no current MS client will do that. OE will.
>

Prove it. show me an OE script that does that.

ROFL.

chuckcar

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Apr 28, 2010, 7:06:12 PM4/28/10
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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.non...@example.invalid> wrote in
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> chuckcar wrote:
>
>> Sorry for not getting your point.
>
> It appears you still haven't.
>
>> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.
>> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.
>
> The person is looking for an email client, so you recommend
> newsreaders?
>

Which is the class of software we're talking about. they're the same
thing.

A MS IE clone. And probably completely without a scripting language or
filters on all headers. Just what he doesn't need.

Message has been deleted

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Apr 28, 2010, 7:58:49 PM4/28/10
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"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
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> Sorry for not getting your point.

You never do.

> No email client from MS will do that.

Bullshit. Even outlook express will do that.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Apr 28, 2010, 8:32:21 PM4/28/10
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chuckcar wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> chuckcar wrote:
>>> Sorry for not getting your point.
>>
>> It appears you still haven't.
>>
>>> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.
>>> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.
>>
>> The person is looking for an email client, so you recommend
>> newsreaders?
>
> Which is the class of software we're talking about. they're the same
> thing.

May I requote the OP? "I notice there is no email client on windows 7"
No. Email. Client. So you suggest newsreaders. How quaint.

>> PWB: get Thunderbird.
>> http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
>>
> A MS IE clone. And probably completely without a scripting language or
> filters on all headers. Just what he doesn't need.

Did you read the link? Thunderbird is a _multi-platform_ *email*
client.
Oh, never mind... you are too thick to understand.

freemont

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Apr 28, 2010, 8:35:32 PM4/28/10
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:06:03 +0000, chuckcar writ:

> Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
> news:hra8qp$994$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> chuckcar wrote:
>>> "PWB"<pwb...@live.com> wrote in
>
>>> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.
>>> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.
>>
>> You mean no current MS client will do that. OE will.
>>
> Prove it. show me an OE script that does that.

Show us an Opera script that bookmarks websites.

chuckcar

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Apr 28, 2010, 10:45:40 PM4/28/10
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freemont <freemont...@freemontsoffice.com> wrote in
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> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:06:03 +0000, chuckcar writ:
>
>> Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
>> news:hra8qp$994$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>> "PWB"<pwb...@live.com> wrote in
>>
>>>> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.
>>>> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.
>>>
>>> You mean no current MS client will do that. OE will.
>>>
>> Prove it. show me an OE script that does that.
>
> Show us an Opera script that bookmarks websites.

All bookmark files are html. html is as close as you can get to a scripting
language without branching and iteration. QED.

Despite the fact that your sentence has absolutely no meaning whatsoever. Any
web browser can do that manually. Just like the only way you can first navigate
to those sites. That's the whole point of a browser.

rf

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Apr 29, 2010, 2:14:17 AM4/29/10
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"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
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> freemont <freemont...@freemontsoffice.com> wrote in
> news:ab0f7$4bd8d454$6216f11c$69...@ALLTEL.NET:

Bloody hell.

> All bookmark files

There is no such thing as a "bookmark file". There is the concept of
"bookmarking" a URL in a browser but that is simple squirreling away the URL
for future use. Just as one might note the URL down on a piece of paper for
future use. One very common browser calls them "favourites". You really
don't have any idea what you are talking about, do you.

> are html.

No, bookmarks are not necessarily HTML. I can "bookmark" anything I can type
into the address bar on my browser, and that includes all the protocols,
http://, ftp://, file://, and whatever else might someday come to mind. You
really don't have any idea what you are talking about, do you.

> html is as close as you can get to a scripting
> language

HTML is most definitely not a scripting language. It is a markup language.
That is what the letters M and L in the name mean. Markup Language. You
really don't have any idea what you are talking about, do you.

> without branching and iteration.

What? You really don't have any idea what you are talking about, do you.

> QED.

Quantum ElectroDynamics? WTF that that have to do with anything? You really
don't have any idea what you are talking about, do you.

You really are the most stupid person I have ever encountered anywhere. You
really don't have any idea what you are talking about, do you.

And it is STILL a fact that all flavours of Microsoft's email clients CAN
shunt emails around to different folders as they are downloaded. You really
don't have any idea what you are talking about, do you.


freemont

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Apr 29, 2010, 7:05:49 AM4/29/10
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 02:45:40 +0000, chuckcar writ:

> freemont <freemont...@freemontsoffice.com> wrote in
> news:ab0f7$4bd8d454$6216f11c$69...@ALLTEL.NET:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:06:03 +0000, chuckcar writ:
>>
>>> Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
>>> news:hra8qp$994$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>> "PWB"<pwb...@live.com> wrote in
>>>
>>>>> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.
>>>>> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.
>>>>
>>>> You mean no current MS client will do that. OE will.
>>>>
>>> Prove it. show me an OE script that does that.
>>
>> Show us an Opera script that bookmarks websites.
>
> All bookmark files are html.

That so? I just bookmarked a text file. Here's its URL:

<file://localhost/home/~/Documents/zoning_minutes.txt>

Is that bookmark html?

Opera stores bookmarks in a file called bookmarks.adr. Here's an entry:

#URL
ID=15
NAME=godaddy
URL=http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/default.asp
CREATED=1142014385
VISITED=1214023897
DESCRIPTION=GoDaddy.com: Pay less for domain names. Register
your .com, .net and .org domains. Bulk pricing and private domain name
registration options. Web hosting and email accounts available. Go Daddy
is a fully accredited ICANN registrar.
UNIQUEID=DBE86F603CA011DD8B79EB03AF00A833

Is that html?

Hell, you probably can't tell the difference. <g>

> html is as close as you can get to a
> scripting language without branching and iteration. QED.

HTML has no scripting capabilities. GFY

> Despite the fact that your sentence has absolutely no meaning
> whatsoever. Any web browser can do that manually.

The point is that OE doesn't need scripting to filter a message any more
than Opera needs scripting to create a bookmark. Stay in school, fool.

Jordon

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Apr 29, 2010, 12:02:54 PM4/29/10
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When I open my Outlook Express there's an entry on the
Tools Menu called Message Filters. I haven't used OE
in a long time but I have about 25 message filters that
used to move messages into different folders based on
the sender.

GFYS

joevan

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Apr 29, 2010, 12:09:37 PM4/29/10
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Yes, I have filtered out the crap and now I got none or very little I
don't want. OE allows you to make your own filters. There is even one
to delete the message at the server.

NormanM

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Apr 29, 2010, 1:10:42 PM4/29/10
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:58:24 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar wrote:

> "PWB" <pwb...@live.com> wrote in news:PoZBn.1453$ii2....@newsfe29.ams2:

>> I have a windows 7 pc but I notice there is no email client on windows
>> 7, instead it uses windows live mail .

> That *is* a client - called Windows Mail. what hotmail is called in some
> circumstances is Windows Live Mail. The use of both is confusing, but if
> you get a windows that *isn't* your web browser and it's showing your
> email, that's an email client.

Hotmail is not called, "Windows Live Mail" in any current circumstance. The
name was changed, once, from "MSN Hotmail" to "Windows Live Mail". And the
latest, low-end, free MS email client was, at that time, called, "Windows
Live Mail desktop". But that has all been changed due to the confusion that
still grips you. At the present time, there is, "Windows Live Hotmail", the
web mail service, and, "Windows Live Mail", the desktop client.

--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

NormanM

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Apr 29, 2010, 1:13:15 PM4/29/10
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Windows Mail only comes with Windows Vista. OP has Windows 7, which has no
included email client (as shipped by Microsoft). The downloadable Microsoft
email client is called, "Windows Live Mail", and may be included by OEMs on
their computers.

Unfortunately, the result is some confusion, as "WLM" has been used for both
"Windows Live Messenger", and "Windows Live Mail".

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

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Apr 29, 2010, 1:26:32 PM4/29/10
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NormanM wrote:

> Unfortunately, the result is some confusion, as "WLM" has been used
> for both "Windows Live Messenger", and "Windows Live Mail".

Reminds me of:
Customer: "Help, I'm having trouble with Outlook."
Support: "Is that Outlook or Outlook Express?"
Customer: "Ummm .. how do I tell?"

--
-bts
-Microsoft, King of the Name-Game

NormanM

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Apr 29, 2010, 1:27:28 PM4/29/10
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:30:38 +0100, PWB wrote:

> I have a windows 7 pc but I notice there is no email client on windows 7,
> instead it uses windows live mail . My question is can you mak a rule and
> folder for that rule to automatically use the folder when mail is
> downloaded. If so can someone please tell m e how to go about it .

Despite a couple of posters (you know who you are!) who don't know what they
are talking about, it is almost as easy to do in Windows Live Mail as it is
in MS Outlook Express. The hardest part is that MS hid the menu bar in
WLMail.

For the menu bar: Using the [Alt] key will toggle in into view so you can
access the items on the menu bar. If you want the menu bar permanently
visible, you have to use the icon between the Paintbrush (colors menu) and
the circled (?), or question mark. The icon appears as a page with an
arrowhead pointing to the right. When you click, you can select the last
item in the list: "Show menu bar". This will permanently (or until you
change your selection) reveal the menu bar.

Beyond that, it is as easy as in MSOE. Tools | Message rules | Mail. I would
recommend that you set up user added folders under the Storage folders
group, and not under any POP3 account, because deletion of a POP3 account in
WLMail deletes all folders related to that account. You will get a warning,
if you try, but many have ignored that warning and lost the account folders,
and their contents. The Storage folders are not affected by that action.

chuckcar

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Apr 29, 2010, 5:27:52 PM4/29/10
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NormanM <spamme...@immoral.invalid> wrote in
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> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:58:24 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar wrote:
>
>> "PWB" <pwb...@live.com> wrote in
>> news:PoZBn.1453$ii2....@newsfe29.ams2:
>
>>> I have a windows 7 pc but I notice there is no email client on
>>> windows 7, instead it uses windows live mail .
>
>> That *is* a client - called Windows Mail. what hotmail is called in
>> some circumstances is Windows Live Mail. The use of both is
>> confusing, but if you get a windows that *isn't* your web browser and
>> it's showing your email, that's an email client.
>
> Hotmail is not called, "Windows Live Mail" in any current
> circumstance. The name was changed, once, from "MSN Hotmail" to
> "Windows Live Mail".

Contradicted yourself in one sentence. Very concise.

> And the latest, low-end, free MS email client
> was, at that time, called, "Windows Live Mail desktop". But that has
> all been changed due to the confusion that still grips you. At the
> present time, there is, "Windows Live Hotmail", the web mail service,
> and, "Windows Live Mail", the desktop client.
>

And then completely confused the issue in the next. Quite unique.

My respects if you're not a professional politician.

chuckcar

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joevan <joeva...@vanudity.com> wrote in
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Which you have to do anyways, or your ISP will delete your mail you
haven't got eventually.

chuckcar

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Apr 29, 2010, 5:27:58 PM4/29/10
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Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
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Yes, and that applies to a *very* limited set of circumstances. Namely
*one* folder - the deleted folder and only applies to the email address.
The OP clearly wanted to use several folders and surely more than just
that one criteria.

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Jordon

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Apr 29, 2010, 6:07:59 PM4/29/10
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chuckcar wrote:
> Jordon<jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
> news:hrcab8$7d9$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> chuckcar wrote:
>>> Jordon<jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
>>> news:hra8qp$994$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>> "PWB"<pwb...@live.com> wrote in
>>>
>>>>> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.
>>>>> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.
>>>>
>>>> You mean no current MS client will do that. OE will.
>>>>
>>> Prove it. show me an OE script that does that.
>>>
>>> ROFL.
>>
>> When I open my Outlook Express there's an entry on the
>> Tools Menu called Message Filters. I haven't used OE
>> in a long time but I have about 25 message filters that
>> used to move messages into different folders based on
>> the sender.
>>
> Yes, and that applies to a *very* limited set of circumstances. Namely
> *one* folder - the deleted folder and only applies to the email address.
> The OP clearly wanted to use several folders and surely more than just
> that one criteria.

WTF are you talking about? Now your backpedaling. You told
the OP he couldn't move messages based on who they're from.

You can filter on from, cc, subject, text in the body, whether
it has an attachment and a few others. You can move them, copy
them, delete them, forward them, highlight them, delete them from
the server. You can create as many rules as you want.

joevan

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Apr 29, 2010, 6:52:04 PM4/29/10
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:27:50 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <ch...@nil.car>
wrote:

Huh, would you translate that sentence. I no speaka the igpay
attanlay.

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"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
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> Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
> news:hrcab8$7d9$1...@news.eternal-september.org:

>> When I open my Outlook Express there's an entry on the


>> Tools Menu called Message Filters. I haven't used OE
>> in a long time but I have about 25 message filters that
>> used to move messages into different folders based on
>> the sender.
>>
> Yes, and that applies to a *very* limited set of circumstances. Namely
> *one* folder - the deleted folder and only applies to the email address.
> The OP clearly wanted to use several folders and surely more than just
> that one criteria.

Then the OP would use message *rules*,. Where the "very limited set of
circumstances" include:

the From header contains something,
the subject line contains something,
the message body contains something,
the to line contains something,
the cc line contains sosomething,
the to line OR the cc line contain something,
the message is marked as priority,
the message is from the specified account,
the message is more than some size,
the message has an attachment,
the message is secure,
all messages.

And then one can move or copy the message to a *specified* folder. Yes,
chuckup, one of any number of *specified* folders. I have at least ten
*specified* folders and I have message rules that move certain selected
messages to *all* of them.

Now, chuckup, go to a windows computer somewhere and HAVE A BLOODY LOOK.
Then STFU as you simply do not know anything at all about what you
attempting to talk about.

Mike Yetto

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Apr 29, 2010, 7:36:21 PM4/29/10
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chuckcar <ch...@nil.car> writes and having writ moves on.

> freemont <freemont...@freemontsoffice.com> wrote in
> news:ab0f7$4bd8d454$6216f11c$69...@ALLTEL.NET:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:06:03 +0000, chuckcar writ:
>>
>>> Jordon <jordon@REMOVE~THISmyrealbox.com> wrote in
>>> news:hra8qp$994$2...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>>> chuckcar wrote:
>>>>> "PWB"<pwb...@live.com> wrote in
>>>
>>>>> No email client from MS will do that. You need something better.
>>>>> Xnews, Agent and others will do it.
>>>>
>>>> You mean no current MS client will do that. OE will.
>>>>
>>> Prove it. show me an OE script that does that.
>>
>> Show us an Opera script that bookmarks websites.
>
> All bookmark files are html. html is as close as you can get to a scripting
> language without branching and iteration. QED.
>

You're absolutely sure bookmarks are never stored as XML or json
files? HTML is a *markup language* with no scripting
capabilities. That's why a separate scripting language must be
used with it. Note the ML on the end of HTML and XML.

> Despite the fact that your sentence has absolutely no meaning whatsoever.

Only if you don't understand English.

> Any web browser can do that manually. Just like the only way
> you can first navigate to those sites. That's the whole point
> of a browser.
>

Please clarify this. Are you saying that bookmarks are required
to navigation to a site? Are you confusing URLs with bookmarks?

Mike "or ravens with writing desks?" Yetto
--
In theory, theory and practice are the same.
In practice they are not.

NormanM

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Apr 30, 2010, 12:49:15 PM4/30/10
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:27:50 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar wrote:

>> Yes, I have filtered out the crap and now I got none or very little I


>> don't want. OE allows you to make your own filters. There is even one
>> to delete the message at the server.

> Which you have to do anyways, or your ISP will delete your mail you
> haven't got eventually.

Silly boy. Email will only be deleted from the server of an email service
provider which has a policy of deleting the oldest email, until enough space
is created for new email, ***IF*** they have a policy of deleting email on a
first-in basis. Most ISPs now provide enough storage that your email will
never be deleted. My ISP has about 2 GBytes of storage.

chuckcar

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Apr 30, 2010, 12:52:32 PM4/30/10
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Mike Yetto <mye...@nycap.invalid> wrote in
news:slrn201004291927...@may.eternal-september.org:

> chuckcar <ch...@nil.car> writes and having writ moves on.
>> freemont <freemont...@freemontsoffice.com> wrote in
>> news:ab0f7$4bd8d454$6216f11c$69...@ALLTEL.NET:
>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:06:03 +0000, chuckcar writ:
>>>

> Please clarify this. Are you saying that bookmarks are required


> to navigation to a site? Are you confusing URLs with bookmarks?
>

Did you even bother to read the post I was replying to at all? To say
nothing of who the poster actually *was*?

chuckcar

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Apr 30, 2010, 12:55:44 PM4/30/10
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NormanM <spamme...@immoral.invalid> wrote in
news:xyvyseug...@on-line.service.invalid:

If you never switch your client to delete messages off the server,
they'll eventually get to messages you haven't read or disable your
email entirely. I'm not the one being silly here, There are several more
qualified candidates replying, including yourself.

NormanM

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Apr 30, 2010, 12:57:51 PM4/30/10
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:27:52 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar wrote:

> NormanM <spamme...@immoral.invalid> wrote in
> news:1ups7de8...@on-line.service.invalid:

>> Hotmail is not called, "Windows Live Mail" in any current


>> circumstance. The name was changed, once, from "MSN Hotmail" to
>> "Windows Live Mail".

> Contradicted yourself in one sentence. Very concise.

You, sir, need "Remedial Reading 101"!

>> And the latest, low-end, free MS email client
>> was, at that time, called, "Windows Live Mail desktop". But that has
>> all been changed due to the confusion that still grips you. At the
>> present time, there is, "Windows Live Hotmail", the web mail service,
>> and, "Windows Live Mail", the desktop client.

> And then completely confused the issue in the next. Quite unique.

I did not create that confusion.

> My respects if you're not a professional politician.

Neither do I work for Microsft in any capacity; or I'd have told them that
their naming schemes would only confuse the end users. But Microsoft is what
it is. They created two unique email clients, MS Outlook (component of MS
Office) and MS Internet Mail and News (bundled with MS Internet Explorer).
Then one bright idiot (probably one of your relatives) had a brilliant
stroke of "Marketing Genius" (which is, usually, actually, some form of
insanity), and renamed "MS Internet Mail and News" to "MS Outlook Express";
thus forever causing end users to think that they were built on related code
(they were not).

Then they really mucked things up with their "Windows Live Essentials", and
Hotmail.

I was just the messenger.

NormanM

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Apr 30, 2010, 12:59:37 PM4/30/10
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:26:32 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

> NormanM wrote:

>> Unfortunately, the result is some confusion, as "WLM" has been used
>> for both "Windows Live Messenger", and "Windows Live Mail".

> Reminds me of:
> Customer: "Help, I'm having trouble with Outlook."
> Support: "Is that Outlook or Outlook Express?"
> Customer: "Ummm .. how do I tell?"

Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh. Ain't that the truth. The community fools of this
group can't quite seem to grasp how MS has muddied their own waters.

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

NormanM

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Apr 30, 2010, 1:38:15 PM4/30/10
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:55:44 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar wrote:

> If you never switch your client to delete messages off the server,
> they'll eventually get to messages you haven't read or disable your
> email entirely.

I expect it would take a few years to accumulate 2 GBytes worth of email in
my ISP mailbox. Especially since there is very little spam in the Inbox.
Their filters are pretty good about that.

> I'm not the one being silly here ...

But you are. Making silly, sweeping claims which defy the way many email
service providers now operate.

> There are several more qualified candidates replying,
> including yourself.

Indeed. You are, in fact, among the least qualified of the responders in
this thread. You clearly don't know what you are speaking of.

Mike Yetto

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Apr 30, 2010, 4:28:54 PM4/30/10
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chuckcar <ch...@nil.car> writes and having writ moves on.
> Mike Yetto <mye...@nycap.invalid> wrote in
> news:slrn201004291927...@may.eternal-september.org:
>
>> chuckcar <ch...@nil.car> writes and having writ moves on.
>>> freemont <freemont...@freemontsoffice.com> wrote in
>>> news:ab0f7$4bd8d454$6216f11c$69...@ALLTEL.NET:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:06:03 +0000, chuckcar writ:
>>>>
>
>> Please clarify this. Are you saying that bookmarks are required
>> to navigation to a site? Are you confusing URLs with bookmarks?
>>
> Did you even bother to read the post I was replying to at all? To say
> nothing of who the poster actually *was*?
>

I was asking for clarification of your ambiguous statement. The
one that you redacted from your latest reply.

Clarification of *your* words does not hinge on the identity of
previous participants in this thread.

Mike "your words do not relate to hinges at all" Yetto

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richard, ye detestable bones. Ye depraved devils being offended, thy
woman's an easy glove, my lord, she goes off and on at pleasure. Ye
puffed:

> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:30:38 +0100, PWB wrote:
>

>> I have a windows 7 pc but I notice there is no email client on windows 7,

>> instead it uses windows live mail . My question is can you mak a rule and
>> folder for that rule to automatically use the folder when mail is
>> downloaded. If so can someone please tell m e how to go about it .
>

> WLM is not email. It is a messenger service. Basically, a live online one
> on one chatroom.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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