"Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:21:28 -0500, SeaNymph wrote:
>
> "Jenn" <m...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> I heard it said that the last prejudice left to concur is the prejudice
>> against people who are overweight - fat - extremely obese. We've
>> already, as a society, decided that it's not legally ok to descriminate
>> against people based on race, religion, sex, national origin, etc.
>> Should a persons weight be included in what we legally should not be
>> allowed to descriminate against?
>>
> Some people are obese through no fault of their own.
You mean someone else stuffed large amounts of food into their faces over
a long period of time against their will?
> Some people make
> bad choices and end up obese. Which persons are you talking about?
>
There weren't very many obese people in German concentration camps, were
there? I wonder why that might have been.
--
Like one that on a lonesome road Doth walk in fear and dread,
And having once turned round walks on, And turns no more his head,
Because he knows some frightful fiend Doth close behind him tread.
-Samuel Taylor Coleridge 'The Rime of the Ancient Mariner', 1797
> Do tell why that was, you racist fuck.
>
Racist? How do you work that out?
My point was that many overweight people will blame their size on all
sorts of things other than their continual and compulsive overeating. In
places (like concentration camps) where it was impossible to overeat,
there were no fat people.
Nothing fucking racist there.
> My point was that many overweight people will blame their size on all
> sorts of things other than their continual and compulsive overeating. In
> places (like concentration camps) where it was impossible to overeat,
> there were no fat people.
I think that PiGGy PEDOSHINE badly needs a vacation to a nice camp ;)
--
"Scott Lifshine is the biggest joke on the Internet" -Desk Rabbit
®o|o®
>Do tell why that was, you racist fuck.
>
>
>"Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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>On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:21:28 -0500, SeaNymph wrote:
>>
>> "Jenn" <m...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:hh05cq$734$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> I heard it said that the last prejudice left to concur is the prejudice
>>> against people who are overweight - fat - extremely obese. We've
>>> already, as a society, decided that it's not legally ok to descriminate
>>> against people based on race, religion, sex, national origin, etc.
>>> Should a persons weight be included in what we legally should not be
>>> allowed to descriminate against?
>>>
>
>> Some people are obese through no fault of their own.
>
>You mean someone else stuffed large amounts of food into their faces over
>a long period of time against their will?
>
>> Some people make
>> bad choices and end up obese. Which persons are you talking about?
>>
>
>There weren't very many obese people in German concentration camps, were
>there? I wonder why that might have been.
99% of the time being obese is a choice. Period.
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/164/5/708
http://www.stvincent.org/ourservices/bariatrics/about/causes/default.htm
"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 04:25:59 -0500, ".Regal" been.
<Snip>
> And surely you can provide some backup for that statement? Somehow,
> I think not. I have no doubt that many people are obese because of
> their choices.
You shoulda just quit right there.
> However, medical science is now discovering that it
> isn't always that simple.
You mean "politically correct" type of "medical science" with no basis in
fact, right?
> There are many medical issues that can
> result in obesity
Name *ONE*. (And if you say diabetes be prepared for me to shoot that down
so fast it'll make yer head spin)
> some consider it a similar disfunction to
> alcoholism, it all depends on who you talk to.
This has been asked of you before. PLEASE point out an obese person in a
concentration camp pic circa WWII.
If yer fat...it's because )for whatever reason) you take more calories in
than you burn. It's just as SIMPLE as that. Burn more calories than you
take in, and you will LOSE weight. And it does not matter if the calories
come from carbs, fat, etc. CARBS are CARBS no matter where they come from.
It's not rocket science for heaven's sake.
Bill
"Respondant" <Respo...@nonemail.not> wrote in message
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> Well Bill, seems you want people to do your research for you, and it
> seems you are unable to back up your statement. Therefore, it must
> be your opinion, and as such, pretty worthless.
Says the top poster who added nothing to refute what I wrote.
Therefore, by your own logic, what I wrote must be true. And it is.
Good for you!
Bill
"Respondant" <Respo...@nonemail.not> wrote in message
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Alcoholism is YOUR choice to. It's simple: DON'T DRINK.
To lose weight? Simple: Eat right and exercise.
End of problem.
>Well Bill, seems you want people to do your research for you, and it seems
>you are unable to back up your statement. Therefore, it must be your
>opinion, and as such, pretty worthless.
Nope. YOU want to cater to weak minded people. We don't accept that.
It's simple: Eat right and exercise and that's a fact.
End of problem
Not my problem if you can't accept and discuss facts, and instead rely on
emotional outbursts in a weak attempt to make a point, whatever that point
might e.
.
"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'd be willing to bet that you're overweight. Stop overeating and quit
trying to rationalise the cause of your obesity.
I am not, nor have I ever been, overweight.
"Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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>I have no desire to cater to anyone. That's what liberals do. I also don't
>know who "we" is.
>
>Not my problem if you can't accept and discuss facts, and instead rely on
>emotional outbursts in a weak attempt to make a point, whatever that point
>might e.
>.
You've been presented with facts. You're just to fucking stupid AND
weak willed to understand it.
So stay fat and drunk...and continue to blame it on everyone else.
Butt fucking ugly too.
That why you and david get off on the down low?
"Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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> I'd be willing to bet that you're overweight. Stop overeating and quit
> trying to rationalise the cause of your obesity.
Ah! Prejudice lifts its ugly head.
Say hello to your new friends in alt.usenet.kooks, k0oKy.
> LOL, I guess you haven't figured out yet that few people care what you
> think about anything,
What I think about anything is probably more carefully thought out and
based on reality than your baseless crap, PeeBlimp.
> since you're just another entitlement freak.
>
Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
> I am not, nor have I ever been, overweight.
>
Liar.
> There is at least one old fat cow in you house.
>
Never get tired of being totally wrong, do you, sparky?
> Butt fucking ugly too.
>
Proves my point.
> That why you and david
Who the fuck's David?
> get off on the down low?
>
English not your first language? That doesn't make sense.
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 04:31:17 -0500, .Regal wrote:
>
>> I'd be willing to bet that you're overweight. Stop overeating and quit
>> trying to rationalise the cause of your obesity.
>
> Ah! Prejudice lifts its ugly head.
>
Nope. The bitch is trying to rationalise being overweight in order to
remove blame for that condition from the sufferer. That implies to me that
either she's overweight or someone close to her is.
> Say hello to your new friends in alt.usenet.kooks, k0oKy.
No thanks.
> LOL, I guess you haven't figured out yet that few people care what you
> think about anything, since you're just another entitlement freak.
On Sun, 26 Dec 2009 05:08:00 -0500, PeeBlimp wrote:
> What right do you have to judge anybody?
> What facts are your judgements based on? None that I can see.
> Do you have something that backs up or substantiates your assumptions or
> not? Nothing you've said is anything but assumption.
> As for your belief that I'm hypocritical, this isn't about me either.
> So, we'll just leave the personalia out of it and get back to the
> issue.
Get called a hypocrite much? I wonder why.
Your cranky, david not service you over
the holiday?
"Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
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> Being an altar boy turned you into a queer fuck and a racist bastard.
>
What a strange thing to say. I'm neither.
I thought you were merely empty-headed. It seems I was wrong- your head is
full of strange thoughts. Ever considered psychiatric help?
> Your cranky,
I haven't got a cranky, whatever one of those is.
> david not service you over the holiday?
>
Who the fuck is this David you keep going on about?
Like 2 school kids, I'm right, no I'm right. Prove it!!!!! Or
concede.
I doubt that anyone else cares anyway, I certainly don't.
"SeaNymph" <SeaN...@deepbluesea.com> wrote in message
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> And surely you can provide some backup for that statement?
> Somehow, I think not. I have no doubt that many people are
> obese because of their choices. However, medical science is now
> discovering that it isn't always that simple. There are many
> medical issues that can result in obesity, some consider it a
> similar disfunction to alcoholism, it all depends on who you
> talk to.
When I watch a Discovery Health Channel episode about some man or
woman that weighs 900 lbs, I always wonder (after I stop laughing!)
how they got that way. I mean, didn't they think something was
wrong at 800 lbs? No, how about 700, 600, 500, 400, 300 lbs? Yeah,
I think it's largely by choice. Those people don't start off that
heavy but they HAVE to have gigantic quanties of calories in order
to keep gaining the weight. At some point, THEY should have
stopped, their spouse or parents should have advised them,
somebody. And, what about their doctor? Surely he/she must've
thought something was wrong as they progressed from pleasingly
plump to fat to obese, to morbidly obese, to so obsese that they
literally can't even get out of bed.
Puleeze!
> http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/164/5/708
>
> http://www.stvincent.org/ourservices/bariatrics/about/causes/defa
> ult.htm "Lookout" <mrLo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 04:25:59 -0500, ".Regal" been.
>>
>> 99% of the time being obese is a choice. Period.
>
>
>
--
Jerry, aka HP
"Efficiency is doing things right, effectiveness is doing the right
things" - Peter Drucker
> I don't need to refute what you said, I provided links to
> articles that support my idea. You have provided nothing.
> Therefore, despite your lame attempts to spin, what you said has
> no backup, cannot be verified and is nothing more than opinion,
> which renders it useless.
>
The "science" behind why people get morbidly obese is quite simple:
take in, i.e., eat, more calories than you consume during a 24 hour
day and you WILL gain weight, simple as that. Again, don't those
who "choose" to be excessively chubby THINK about what they're
doing? Yeah, I've heard all the stories "I'm so hungry, I just have
to eat 25 Big Macs at one sitting."
And, what is really curious, is that those that society presumes to
be "poor" are often the most obese. Must be all that cheap food
they're eating, but the "science" still holds true - more calories
in than consumed, gain weight. Less calories intake than consumed,
lose weight.
>>> 99% of the time being obese is a choice. Period.
>
> Alcoholism is YOUR choice to. It's simple: DON'T DRINK.
> To lose weight? Simple: Eat right and exercise.
>
> End of problem.
Works for me!
> LOL, I guess you haven't figured out yet that few people care
> what you think about anything, since you're just another
> entitlement freak.
>
Remember to spell "Socialist" with an uppercase "S". Yeah, there's
a lot of people in Europe that think that healtcare and everything
else they get from "the government" is free, except that NOTHING
one gets from ANY government is "free" - somebody has to pay one
way or another. And now, "change you can believe in" is trying to
bring Socialism to the United States and is within an eyeblink of
succeeding with the 1st go around of healthcare "reform." Thank God
for mid-term elections in less than a year!
>> since you're just another entitlement freak.
>
> Whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.
>
Numbnuts, it means that YOU are just another Socialist loon that thinks
they are "entitled" to a free ride from the government. You like to
brag about going to the doctor for free and all the rest of your
Socialist agenda. Have you EVER stopped to think about WHO is paying
for your "free" ride?
I'd be willing to bet that you're overweight. Stop overeating and quit
trying to rationalise the cause of your obesity.
--
Like one that on a lonesome road Doth walk in fear and dread,
And having once turned round walks on, And turns no more his head,
Because he knows some frightful fiend Doth close behind him tread.
-Samuel Taylor Coleridge 'The Rime of the Ancient Mariner', 1797
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So be it.
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> "Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
> I'd be willing to bet that you're overweight. Stop overeating and quit
> trying to rationalise the cause of your obesity.
Indeed. I did write that.
Your point?
> The "down low" is casual cocksucking thats supposed to be "non-commital"
> and "meaningless".
Hmmmm. I *think* I understand.
> Black dudes who "arnt really gay" do it some times.
'Aren't really gay', eh? LOL
> <shrugs>
> Hey, I dont understand how that works either so dont ask me to explain
> it.
Let's just call it inexplicable and leave it at that.
Your fail to undestand is noted.
^_^
>
> "�n�hw��f" <snuh...@yahoo.com <mailto:snuh...@yahoo.com>> wrote in
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> Glenn wrote:
> > Neither one of you are presenting a viable argument one way or the other.
> >
> > Like 2 school kids, I'm right, no I'm right. Prove it!!!!! Or concede.
> >
> > I doubt that anyone else cares anyway, I certainly don't.
> >
> Yeah, me either. Thats why I refuse to respond or poast in this thread.
>
> <nods>
>
> ^_^
>
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> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:40:27 -0700, §nühw¤£f wrote:
>
>> The "down low" is casual cocksucking thats supposed to be
>> "non-commital" and "meaningless".
>
> Hmmmm. I *think* I understand.
>
>> Black dudes who "arnt really gay" do it some times.
>
> 'Aren't really gay', eh? LOL
>
>
>> <shrugs>
>> Hey, I dont understand how that works either so dont ask me to explain
>> it.
>
> Let's just call it inexplicable and leave it at that.
G'day.
This G'day was brought to you by the world's first Linux Berserker.
:-)
Congrats!
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:55:06 +0100, Bram van der Regelneef wrote:
>
>> Aardvark <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:40:27 -0700, §nühw¤£f wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "down low" is casual cocksucking thats supposed to be
>>>> "non-commital" and "meaningless".
>>>
>>> Hmmmm. I *think* I understand.
>>>
>>>> Black dudes who "arnt really gay" do it some times.
>>>
>>> 'Aren't really gay', eh? LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>> <shrugs>
>>>> Hey, I dont understand how that works either so dont ask me to
>>>> explain it.
>>>
>>> Let's just call it inexplicable and leave it at that.
>>
>> G'day.
>>
>> This G'day was brought to you by the world's first Linux Berserker.
>
> :-)
>
> Congrats!
It's working nicely, and it's stable. I still have to add quite a few
features but the thing may be ready for beta testing a week earlier than
I expected.
> Aardvark <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:55:06 +0100, Bram van der Regelneef wrote:
>>
>>> Aardvark <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:40:27 -0700, §nühw¤£f wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The "down low" is casual cocksucking thats supposed to be
>>>>> "non-commital" and "meaningless".
>>>>
>>>> Hmmmm. I *think* I understand.
>>>>
>>>>> Black dudes who "arnt really gay" do it some times.
>>>>
>>>> 'Aren't really gay', eh? LOL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> <shrugs>
>>>>> Hey, I dont understand how that works either so dont ask me to
>>>>> explain it.
>>>>
>>>> Let's just call it inexplicable and leave it at that.
>>>
>>> G'day.
>>>
>>> This G'day was brought to you by the world's first Linux Berserker.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Congrats!
>
> It's working nicely, and it's stable. I still have to add quite a few
> features but the thing may be ready for beta testing a week earlier than
> I expected.
I'm looking forward to it.
:-0
And eating healthy is cheaper than eating fat. Veggies (with beans)
are cheaper than a Happy Meal or a box of Hamburger Helper.
>Lookout added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
>
>>>> 99% of the time being obese is a choice. Period.
>>
>> Alcoholism is YOUR choice to. It's simple: DON'T DRINK.
>> To lose weight? Simple: Eat right and exercise.
>>
>> End of problem.
>
>Works for me!
(Looks out his window to see if hell froze over)
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:44:58 +0100, Klaas uit den Kipnugget wrote:
>
>> Aardvark <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:55:06 +0100, Bram van der Regelneef wrote:
>>>
>>>> Aardvark <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:40:27 -0700, §nühw¤£f wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The "down low" is casual cocksucking thats supposed to be
>>>>>> "non-commital" and "meaningless".
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmm. I *think* I understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Black dudes who "arnt really gay" do it some times.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Aren't really gay', eh? LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> <shrugs>
>>>>>> Hey, I dont understand how that works either so dont ask me to
>>>>>> explain it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's just call it inexplicable and leave it at that.
>>>>
>>>> G'day.
>>>>
>>>> This G'day was brought to you by the world's first Linux Berserker.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Congrats!
>>
>> It's working nicely, and it's stable. I still have to add quite a few
>> features but the thing may be ready for beta testing a week earlier
>> than I expected.
>
>
> I'm looking forward to it.
To beta testing Berserker or laying waste to Usenet?
> :-0
A bit o' both.
>> :-0
:-)
Oh, that's ok then. But remember, beta testing is less important.
Medical causes for obeisity 250+
http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/symptoms/obesity/causes.htm Just a simple
google search can provide lots of *food* for thought.
P.S. I'm pleasingly plump... rofl
--
oaknymph
Most of those conditions are pretty rare, although inexplicable weight
gain (which cannot be explained by overeating) might possibly point to
some underlying medical condition which bears further investigation.
From the NHS site:
"Why am I so overweight?
There are many different reasons for being overweight but there are also a
lot of myths. In some people there is a genuine genetic element and
obesity does run in families, but no one is 'big-boned'. Some people,
especially those with diabetes, will find it harder than others to lose
weight. Others may be on drugs, or have medical conditions that cause
weight gain.
However, these factors are rare compared with the principal cause, which
is eating too much and not getting enough exercise. It’s not easy getting
the balance right between energy consumed as food and energy burnt off as
exercise, but it's the key to curing obesity."
< http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Obesity/Pages/Expertpage.aspx >
In our western world, I would be loath, in this day and age, to attribute
overweight or obesity in anyone to be caused by anything other than the
intake of more calories than one's lifestyle requires, although I do
accept that there are *rare* medical conditions whose symptoms include
overweight or obesity.
Just look at the obesity figures both in your country and here in the UK.
Very few of those high numbers can be put down to the existence of the
rare medical conditions you graciously provided the link to. Sedentary
lifestyles and high calorie intake are more likely to cause overweight/
obesity than anything else.
As I mentioned before in this thread, there were no obese people in
concentration camps. Some, statistically, must have suffered from medical
conditions which in normal circumstances would have displayed symptoms of
overweight or obesity, but these symptoms wouldn't have displayed for the
simple reason that high calorie intake had been removed from the
equation.
> P.S. I'm pleasingly plump... rofl
I've always been slim, with a pretty active lifestyle.
Further to that, I've been further browsing the NHS site and came across
the following:
"Medical reasons
In less than one out of every 100 cases, there is a medical reason for
obesity. Conditions such as Cushing's syndrome (over-production of steroid
hormones in the body) and an under-active thyroid gland are rare causes of
weight gain.
Certain medicines, including some steroids and antidepressants, can
contribute to weight gain. Also, taking the contraceptive pill and
quitting smoking may increase your appetite."
Note: "In less than one out of every 100 cases..."
< http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Obesity/Pages/Causes.aspx >
Willing to bet. What are the odds? 60% Americans are obese or worse.
Scary bet.