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BurfordTJustice
Nov 12, 2013, 6:32:29 AM11/12/13
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Snopes is run by a man and a woman with no background in investigation using
Google.
Snopes.com has been considered the 'tell-all final word' on any comment,
claim and email. Once negative article by them and people point and say,
"See, I told you it wasn't true!" But what is Snopes? What are their methods
and training that gives them the authority to decide what is true and what
is not? For several years people have tried to find out who exactly was
behind the website Snopes.com. Only recently did they get to the bottom of
it.
Are you ready for this? It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right,
no big office of investigators scouring public records in Washington, no
researchers studying historical stacks in libraries, no team of lawyers
reaching a consensus on current caselaw. No, Snopes.com is just a
mom-and-pop operation that was started by two people who have absolutely no
formal background or experience in investigative research.
David and Barbara Mikkelson pictured above; are from San Fernando Valley of
California. They started their website 'Snopes' about 13 years ago. After a
few years it began gaining popularity as people believed it to be unbiased
and neutral. But over the past couple of years people started asking
questions when 'Snopes' was proven wrong in a number of their conclusions.
There were also criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and
getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues, but rather asserting their
beliefs in controversial issues.
In 2008, State Farm agent Bud Gregg hoisted a political sign in Mandeville,
Louisiana referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the
internet. The Mikkelson's were quick to "research" this issue and post their
condemnation of it on Snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the
corporate office of State Farm pressured Mr. Gregg into taking down the
sign. In fact, nothing of the sort ever took place. A friend of Mr. Gregg
personally contacted David Mikkelson to alert him of the factual inacuracy,
leaving him Mr. Gregg's contact phone numbers. Mr. Mikkelson was told that
Mr. Gregg would give him the phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm
in Illinois who would inform them that they had never pressured Mr. Gregg to
take down his sign.
But the Mikkelson's never called Mr. Gregg. In fact, Mr. Gregg found out
that no one from Snopes.com had ever contacted any one with State Farm. Yet,
Snopes.com has kept their false story of Mr. Gregg up to this day, as the
"final factual word" on the issue.
What is behind Snopes' selfish motivation? A simple review of their
"fact-checking" reveals a strong tendency to explain away criticisms towards
liberal politicians and public figures while giving conservatives the
hatchet job. Religious stories and issues are similarly shown no mercy. With
the "main-stream" media quickly losing all credibility with their fawning
treatment of President Obama, Snopes is being singled out, along with MSNBC
and others, as being particularly biased and agenda-motivated.
So if you really want to know the truth about a story or a rumor you have
heard, by all means do not go to Snopes.com! You could do just as well if
you were a liberal with an Internet connection. Don't go to wikipedia.com
either as their team of amateur editors have also been caught in a number of
bold-faced liberal-biased untruths. (Such as Wikigate and their religious
treatment of Obama.) Take anything these sites say with a grain of salt and
an understanding that they are written by people with a motive to criticize
all things conservative. Use them only to lead you to solid references where
you can read their sources for yourself.
Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself. It now
seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do.
Google.
Snopes.com has been considered the 'tell-all final word' on any comment,
claim and email. Once negative article by them and people point and say,
"See, I told you it wasn't true!" But what is Snopes? What are their methods
and training that gives them the authority to decide what is true and what
is not? For several years people have tried to find out who exactly was
behind the website Snopes.com. Only recently did they get to the bottom of
it.
Are you ready for this? It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right,
no big office of investigators scouring public records in Washington, no
researchers studying historical stacks in libraries, no team of lawyers
reaching a consensus on current caselaw. No, Snopes.com is just a
mom-and-pop operation that was started by two people who have absolutely no
formal background or experience in investigative research.
David and Barbara Mikkelson pictured above; are from San Fernando Valley of
California. They started their website 'Snopes' about 13 years ago. After a
few years it began gaining popularity as people believed it to be unbiased
and neutral. But over the past couple of years people started asking
questions when 'Snopes' was proven wrong in a number of their conclusions.
There were also criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and
getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues, but rather asserting their
beliefs in controversial issues.
In 2008, State Farm agent Bud Gregg hoisted a political sign in Mandeville,
Louisiana referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the
internet. The Mikkelson's were quick to "research" this issue and post their
condemnation of it on Snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the
corporate office of State Farm pressured Mr. Gregg into taking down the
sign. In fact, nothing of the sort ever took place. A friend of Mr. Gregg
personally contacted David Mikkelson to alert him of the factual inacuracy,
leaving him Mr. Gregg's contact phone numbers. Mr. Mikkelson was told that
Mr. Gregg would give him the phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm
in Illinois who would inform them that they had never pressured Mr. Gregg to
take down his sign.
But the Mikkelson's never called Mr. Gregg. In fact, Mr. Gregg found out
that no one from Snopes.com had ever contacted any one with State Farm. Yet,
Snopes.com has kept their false story of Mr. Gregg up to this day, as the
"final factual word" on the issue.
What is behind Snopes' selfish motivation? A simple review of their
"fact-checking" reveals a strong tendency to explain away criticisms towards
liberal politicians and public figures while giving conservatives the
hatchet job. Religious stories and issues are similarly shown no mercy. With
the "main-stream" media quickly losing all credibility with their fawning
treatment of President Obama, Snopes is being singled out, along with MSNBC
and others, as being particularly biased and agenda-motivated.
So if you really want to know the truth about a story or a rumor you have
heard, by all means do not go to Snopes.com! You could do just as well if
you were a liberal with an Internet connection. Don't go to wikipedia.com
either as their team of amateur editors have also been caught in a number of
bold-faced liberal-biased untruths. (Such as Wikigate and their religious
treatment of Obama.) Take anything these sites say with a grain of salt and
an understanding that they are written by people with a motive to criticize
all things conservative. Use them only to lead you to solid references where
you can read their sources for yourself.
Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself. It now
seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do.
Ferd Berfle
Nov 12, 2013, 12:40:20 PM11/12/13
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"BurfordTJustice" <bur...@hubdub.mo> wrote in message
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glued to a monitor and not out doors where other people would have to see
her.
Mike Easter
Nov 12, 2013, 2:02:48 PM11/12/13
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Ferd Berfle wrote:
> "BurfordTJustice"
>> Snopes is run by a man and a woman with no background in
>> investigation using Google.
That inaccurate anti-snopes article originated from a very very old 2009
chain-mail.
>> Are you ready for this? It is run by a husband and wife team -
Correct.
>> In 2008, State Farm agent Bud Gregg hoisted a political sign in
>> Mandeville,
... begins a very inaccurate story. The snopes take was correct, not
the anti-snopes one.
>> What is behind Snopes' selfish motivation?
The claim that snopes is more liberal/democrat than
conservative/republican is severely exaggerated. Snopes itself does
agree that it gets more complaints from conservatives than liberals, but
that it does get both kinds, and other sources address the bias charge
to refute it - see below.
>> So if you really want to know the truth about a story or a rumor
>> you have heard, by all means do not go to Snopes.com!
Rather, be careful about using only one source.
Also bad advice.
>> Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself.
I wouldn't recommend routinely starting with google at all.
> One look at the photo
Riiiggghhhtt; discredit the photo.
Scratch the skin of a critic of less attractive women and one will find
a misogynist underneath who is hypercritical of all women. This one is
too 'ugly', the pretty one is too ditsy, the smart successful one must
be a maneater and so forth.
How about we instead discredit the chainmail's veracity/accuracy:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/ Is Snopes.com run by "very
Democratic" proprietors? Did they lie to discredit a State Farm
insurance agent who attacked Obama? - A: A chain e-mail that "exposed"
Snopes contains falsehoods. And in fact, the site is run by someone who
has no political party affiliation and his non-voting Canadian wife. A
State Farm spokeswoman confirms what they reported about the
Obama-baiting agent.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm Snopes
Exposed? Snopes Got 'Snoped'? Not So Much -- Netlore Archive: Biased
sources want you to believe Snopes.com is biased
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Mike Easter
> "BurfordTJustice"
>> Snopes is run by a man and a woman with no background in
>> investigation using Google.
chain-mail.
>> Are you ready for this? It is run by a husband and wife team -
>> In 2008, State Farm agent Bud Gregg hoisted a political sign in
>> Mandeville,
the anti-snopes one.
>> What is behind Snopes' selfish motivation?
conservative/republican is severely exaggerated. Snopes itself does
agree that it gets more complaints from conservatives than liberals, but
that it does get both kinds, and other sources address the bias charge
to refute it - see below.
>> So if you really want to know the truth about a story or a rumor
>> you have heard, by all means do not go to Snopes.com!
Also bad advice.
>> Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself.
> One look at the photo
Scratch the skin of a critic of less attractive women and one will find
a misogynist underneath who is hypercritical of all women. This one is
too 'ugly', the pretty one is too ditsy, the smart successful one must
be a maneater and so forth.
How about we instead discredit the chainmail's veracity/accuracy:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/ Is Snopes.com run by "very
Democratic" proprietors? Did they lie to discredit a State Farm
insurance agent who attacked Obama? - A: A chain e-mail that "exposed"
Snopes contains falsehoods. And in fact, the site is run by someone who
has no political party affiliation and his non-voting Canadian wife. A
State Farm spokeswoman confirms what they reported about the
Obama-baiting agent.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm Snopes
Exposed? Snopes Got 'Snoped'? Not So Much -- Netlore Archive: Biased
sources want you to believe Snopes.com is biased
--
Mike Easter
BurfordTJustice
Nov 12, 2013, 3:06:59 PM11/12/13
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"Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in message
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<,snip interrupting babble>
If you can not respond without interrupting every sentence or
half sentence then just STFU.
Most people can read something and form a reply afterwards.
Socialists and stooges must interrupt and respond.
Try that out on the street and film it for you tube.
Ferd Berfle
Nov 12, 2013, 3:49:23 PM11/12/13
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"Mike Easter" <Mi...@ster.invalid> wrote in message
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avoid going out in public where other people will have to look at her.
HTH.
Ferd Berfle
Nov 12, 2013, 3:49:57 PM11/12/13
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He/she it is just a S-E Snopes wannabe.
meagain
Nov 12, 2013, 4:25:52 PM11/12/13
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striking back preemptively AT snopes has become popular. Cross check with
FactOrFiction or other 'sources.'
Ferd Berfle
Nov 12, 2013, 4:32:05 PM11/12/13
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Buffalo
Nov 13, 2013, 6:07:16 PM11/13/13
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Yep!!
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