Apple arrest
J
A strange thing happened today. :) I was in the local Apple store trying the
new iPad and the guy sitting next to me typed something into the iPad he was
using and this 'inverted the colours'. Then the staff came over and asked
him what he had done to it. The guy said "not a thing", but they then phoned
the California branch and spoke to the CEO! The fellow was told he would be
facing criminal charges and faced a hefty fine. They said he had
broken/infringed copyright of Apple software (or words to that effect) and
he was in big trouble. At this point the guy was clearly crapping himself.
That's when the police came in and he was taken away. I have no idea what
happened to him, but surely all this was a bit 'OTT', yes? What could he
possibly have done to the iPad to render it useless? To me, it looked like
he just typed in some code and 'ran' it, but could that actually trash the
thing? BTW, he appeared to open up a window with a sort of 'DOS' look to it,
and typed in some code or other. Anyone know what it might have been? Just
thought I'd share this with you. guys.
J
richard
I think the above post should be filed under the category of
"HORSEHOCKEY!".
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J
"richard" <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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File it under whatever you like mate. That's exactly how it happened.
I have a feeling there must be more to it than I know. I mean, there must be
some apps out there that people are using which can do this very thing (are
there?). Maybe it was some kinda practical joke? I dunno, but the whole
thing was very surreal, and a bit scary too I have to say. BTW, our Apple
has seats! And trying to get an empty one is not easy. :) They let the kids
in and let them muck around with the iPads etc.,. So, I sat with the kids!
:) I don't think for a minute that Steve Jobs was on the other end of the
phone, but why the heck did they tell the guy they were talking to the CEO?
Hmm. Maybe there are some weird folks who work for Apple.
J
Spagat
BUT< i they known he Hacked , could mean the ipad is undersurveilance
??
OldGringo38
following tidbit of information:
> iPad, you don't think the store would pursue criminal charges against
> the person?
>
> Go into a local computer store. Start formatting the hard drive on a
> computer. Let us know how it ends up for you.
The baseboards must be coming loose, I see new cockroaches all over the
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richard
I say horsehockey because things like that don't happen that damn quickly.
In the USA, the store owner or manager would have to file a proper police
report, file the charges in a court house, then maybe the dude gets
arrested in a few days. It ain't gonna happen while they're on the phone
and the idiot is still in the store.
Because the guy made the phone useless? Bullshit. Without the operating
system it's nothing more than a display item or door prop. They could have
back in full working order in 10 minutes.
thund3rstruck
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:42:17 -0500, richard <mem...@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I say horsehockey
>
> Seriously, who the fuck else says horsehockey? Anyone? Anyone?
> <Crickets>
<snip>
I sometimes do...
n0i
Charles Mott
news:dksq16lk13mgcm80k...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:42:17 -0500, richard <mem...@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I say horsehockey
>
> Seriously, who the fuck else says horsehockey? Anyone? Anyone?
> <Crickets>
>
>>because things like that don't happen that damn quickly.
>
> Really?
>
>>In the USA,
>
> The OP isn't in the USA. Unless the OP is using a UK based ISP in the
> USA, which I doubt. So the rest of your babble has no meaning.
>
>>the store owner or manager would have to file a proper police
>>report, file the charges in a court house, then maybe the dude gets
>>arrested in a few days. It ain't gonna happen while they're on the
>>phone and the idiot is still in the store.
>
> No, st00pid. If you commit a crime, and you're still there, the police
> don't make you file charges.
>
> If you go to a computer store and start destroying data on the hard
> drives, and the manager of the store calls the police, you WILL be
> arrested. Think about it. Use the few remaining brain cells you have
> left.
>
>>Because the guy made the phone useless?
>
> Phone? Where did the OP mention a phone?
>
>>Bullshit.
>
> Yes, you are full of bullshit.
>
>>Without the operating system it's nothing more than a display item or
>>door prop.
>
> Bingo.
>
>>They could have back in full working order in 10 minutes.
>
> And you know that for a fact? It's STILL a crime, st00pid.
Actually - no.
If you go to a store and accidently break something the store will make
you pay for the damaged goods. They aren't going to call the police and
the won't arrive that quicky. I don't know Richard and some of the shit
he spews is just that - shit. However the story does NOT sound right.
This situation does not rise to the level of an arrest unless there is
MUCH left out of this story such as the patron of the store became
beligerant and abusive. Then he could be charged as a disorderly person.
Until the situation escalates, someone in a store who breaks an oject is
civily liable and not criminally liable.
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news:36bTn.106482$eS7....@newsfe25.ams2:
As an big fan of conspiracy theories (there's not much else
interesting left in this dying world) I find this quite curious
- if it's true. It /looks/ like a scene from a typical Hollyshit
movie, but if it really happened, this could imply a variety of
interesting things about the iPod, Apple, the NSA, just what you
are and are NOT allowed to do with equipment you don't own (AND
own) etc.
Many people consider ISP to stand for Internet Surveillance
Provider. Many people say e-mail is the most effective personal
surveillance system ever devised. Now, what about iPods which
combine (AFAIK - I don't even own a cellular phone) a telephone,
camera, basic internet access with email, and in many cases have
your most if not your entire life (in one form or another)
stored on them?
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On 6/19/10 3:00 PM, in article 36bTn.106482$eS7....@newsfe25.ams2, "J"
<thgksurh...@jhgtyjgherhfnsftg.com> wrote:
Hmm, You seem to be in the UK. Yes, If you waltz into a store and damage a
computers content then you could be charged with a crime. I don't know if
the store that sold Apple products was a independent seller or a Apple owned
store, but the CEO could just be a franchise type manager. It is no
different then walking into a bookstore then destroying a book.
What you saw opened was a terminal, like used in Mac OS X,
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Terminal>
that allows you direct access to the computer.
If you send the commands:
sudo su -
passwd: **** (If required)
rm -rf /Library/*/*
You can do damage to the OS so that it has to be reinstalled.
This poor programmer in San Francisco found out the hard way with a felony
conviction:
<http://sfist.com/2010/04/28/programmer_found_of_hijacking_citys.php>
City Programmer Found Guilty of Felony Computer Tampering
Terry Childs, the SF City Hall's network engineer who almost brought the
city a stand still after withholding crucial passwords, was found guilty of
felony computer tampering on Tuesday. KTVU reports: "After nearly three days
of deliberation, the jury Tuesday afternoon found Childs -- who had worked
for the Department of Technology since 2003 and built the network -- guilty
of one felony count of computer tampering with an allegation that the losses
from the crime exceeded $200,000." Childs faces two to five years in the
pokey. Mayor Gavin Newsom, if you recall, had to personally visit Childs in
jail to retrieve the passwords.
Here is another computer tampering felony conviction:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_L._Schwartz>
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Check out www.hackaday.com for kewl hardware ha><2.
> Many people consider ISP to stand for Internet Surveillance
> Provider. Many people say e-mail is the most effective personal
> surveillance system ever devised. Now, what about iPods which
> combine (AFAIK - I don't even own a cellular phone) a telephone,
> camera, basic internet access with email, and in many cases have
> your most if not your entire life (in one form or another)
> stored on them?
>
Encrypt All Traffic? Its a cat&mouse game sure, but to a techy it should
be simply Amusing Fun.
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> This poor programmer in San Francisco found out the hard way with a
> felony
> conviction:
> <http://sfist.com/2010/04/28/programmer_found_of_hijacking_citys.php>
>
> City Programmer Found Guilty of Felony Computer Tampering
>
> Terry Childs, the SF City Hall's network engineer who almost brought
> the
> city a stand still after withholding crucial passwords, was found
> guilty of
> felony computer tampering on Tuesday. KTVU reports: "After nearly
> three days
> of deliberation, the jury Tuesday afternoon found Childs -- who had
> worked
> for the Department of Technology since 2003 and built the network --
> guilty
> of one felony count of computer tampering with an allegation that the
> losses
> from the crime exceeded $200,000." Childs faces two to five years in
> the
> pokey. Mayor Gavin Newsom, if you recall, had to personally visit
> Childs in
> jail to retrieve the passwords.
>
I followed that story very closely on slashdot & elsewhere. The
conviction is utter fucking bullshit. TC was trying ( in vain ) to
protect the network from klewless fucks that dont know wtf they are
doing. He *built* the thing. He was tired of people NOT following
security rules and breaking shit. Sure, he might be tad socially
retarded but many very highly skilled people are. What was needed was
BETTER MANAGMENT. What happend was stupid people (ala Ideocracy) called
the shots.
>
> Here is another computer tampering felony conviction:
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randal_L._Schwartz>
>
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...master of perl scripts.
Respondant
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:42:17 -0500, richard <mem...@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I say horsehockey
>
> Seriously, who the fuck else says horsehockey? Anyone? Anyone?
> <Crickets>
Potter from M*A*S*H*. Haven't you figured out yet that RTS "learns"
*everything* from TV?
>> because things like that don't happen that damn quickly.
>
> Really?
>
>> In the USA,
>
> The OP isn't in the USA. Unless the OP is using a UK based ISP in the
> USA, which I doubt. So the rest of your babble has no meaning.
>
>> the store owner or manager would have to file a proper police
>> report, file the charges in a court house, then maybe the dude gets
>> arrested in a few days. It ain't gonna happen while they're on the
>> phone
>> and the idiot is still in the store.
>
> No, st00pid. If you commit a crime, and you're still there, the police
> don't make you file charges.
>
> If you go to a computer store and start destroying data on the hard
> drives, and the manager of the store calls the police, you WILL be
> arrested. Think about it. Use the few remaining brain cells you have
> left.
>
>> Because the guy made the phone useless?
>
> Phone? Where did the OP mention a phone?
>
>> Bullshit.
>
> Yes, you are full of bullshit.
>
>> Without the operating system it's nothing more than a display item
>> or door prop.
>
> Bingo.
>
>> They could have back in full working order in 10 minutes.
>
Aardvark
>> Seriously, who the fuck else says horsehockey? Anyone? Anyone?
>> <Crickets>
>
> Potter from M*A*S*H*. Haven't you figured out yet that RTS "learns"
> *everything* from TV?
LOL.
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>A strange thing happened today. :) I was in the local Apple store trying the
>new iPad and the guy sitting next to me typed something into the iPad he was
>using and this 'inverted the colours'.
I agree with the other poasters; this story doesn't sound right to me
either.
While I haven't used an iPad, the iPhone 3GS has an "accessibility"
feature that can be turned on to invert the colors of the display. I
wouldn't be surprised if the iPad shares this feature (since it's
underlying OS is largely the same).
If the guy actually did destroy the iPad with some code, it would have
had to be jailbroken (or similarly hacked). You can't do crap on the
locked-down closed iP* platform but mess with settings, download apps
from Apple's sanctioned software library, and visit websites.
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chuckcar
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:42:17 -0500, richard <mem...@newsguy.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I say horsehockey
>
> Seriously, who the fuck else says horsehockey? Anyone? Anyone?
> <Crickets>
>
Anyone intellectually developed enough to not see a need to be endlessly
spouting profanities.
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chuckcar
news:36bTn.106482$eS7....@newsfe25.ams2:
>
> A strange thing happened today. :) I was in the local Apple store
> trying the new iPad and the guy sitting next to me typed something
> into the iPad he was using and this 'inverted the colours'.
Big deal. Nothing new or earth shattering in that.
> Then the
> staff came over and asked him what he had done to it. The guy said
> "not a thing", but they then phoned the California branch and spoke to
> the CEO! The fellow was told he would be facing criminal charges and
> faced a hefty fine.
For what *exactly*? because an unsold good went bad in the store?
> They said he had broken/infringed copyright of
> Apple software (or words to that effect) and he was in big trouble. At
> this point the guy was clearly crapping himself. That's when the
> police came in and he was taken away.
Immediately taken away? doesn't happen. Anywhere.
> I have no idea what happened to
> him,
Makes it even more doubtful. You *would* have heard the entire conversation
between the cop, store staff and the "suspect" if it all happened. The
conversation stating *exactly* what he was being charged with and why. And
absolutely the cops wouldn't have just arrested someone on the spot based
on what some Apple employee said.
> but surely all this was a bit 'OTT', yes? What could he possibly
> have done to the iPad to render it useless? To me, it looked like he
> just typed in some code and 'ran' it, but could that actually trash
> the thing? BTW, he appeared to open up a window with a sort of 'DOS'
> look to it, and typed in some code or other. Anyone know what it might
> have been? Just thought I'd share this with you. guys.
>
I severely doubt you could think up anything more convincing than that
nonsence above. "DOS" or CLI as it's more correctly called is rarely
necessary or required for the creation of working code, It just allows a
more efficient interface. Certainly any apps for an iPod are certainly not
going to be just written on them. They'll be cross compiled to the target
system using a standard computer.
Kadaitcha Man
knave, thou hast need of more rags to lay on thee. Ye beat up thy
wrinkly hairy-conkers then cried:
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 02:26:19 +0000 (UTC), chuckcar <ch...@nil.car
> wrote:
>
>> Anyone intellectually developed enough to not see a need to be
>> endlessly spouting profanities.
>
> Watch me make a troll vanish.
>
> From: chuckcar <ch...@nil.car Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
> Subject: Re: one of those prefer bullet to head Windows probs -
> 0xc010002 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID:
> <Xns9D99C0A...@127.0.0.1
>
> Fine. Go do it to yourself. I've ceased to care ahole.
>
> From: chuckcar <ch...@nil.car Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
> Subject: Re: BP thugs ordering citizens off public beach Date: Mon,
> 14 Jun 2010 22:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID:
> <Xns9D97BAB...@127.0.0.1
>
> Bullshit. It's a safety hazard.
>
>
> From: chuckcar <ch...@nil.car Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
> Subject: Re: BP thugs ordering citizens off public beach Date: Thu,
> 17 Jun 2010 11:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID:
> <Xns9D9A47D...@127.0.0.1
>
> No, the *thick* ones are you and that stupid black reporter
>
> From: chuckcar <ch...@nil.car Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
> Subject: Re: BP thugs ordering citizens off public beach Date: Fri,
> 18 Jun 2010 20:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID:
> <Xns9D9BA62...@127.0.0.1
>
> Like hell you were. She was a stupid person
>
> From: chuckcar <ch...@nil.car Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
> Subject: Re: BP thugs ordering citizens off public beach Date: Sat,
> 19 Jun 2010 04:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID:
> <Xns9D9C99A...@127.0.0.1
>
> No you idiot. She's stupid because she couldn't understand the real
> reason anymore than you seem to.
>
> From: chuckcar <ch...@nil.car Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
> Subject: Re: What kind of dick would do this? Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010
> 04:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <Xns9D9C94...@127.0.0.1
>
> What the fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck is wrong with you?"
>>
>> How's that?
>>
> No better shithead.
>
> Like that?
>
> Fing moron.
Nice k0ok0ut, k0oKy obsesso stalker.
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