commodore 64
Starcus Maffhorst
Marcus
FromTheRafters
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> how to start a program in commododore 64 ????
Run
thund3rstruck
> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:28:17 +0100, "Starcus Maffhorst"
> <maff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> how to start a program in commododore 64 ????
>
> <filename>, but shit, been 15 years since I even looked at one.
Evan's correct. Load <filename> from the command prompt. Once loaded,
just type 'run'.
n0i
richard
> how to start a program in commododore 64 ????
>
> Marcus
RTFM...troll.
Are you really that serious or just being stoopid?
FromTheRafters
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> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:28:17 +0100, "Starcus Maffhorst"
> <filename>, but shit, been 15 years since I even looked at one.
Yeah LOAD,x,x,x something like that - cat is like dir ya got save, list,
open...
Google for Commodore 64 users manual.
I used to know the screen pokes and color pokes for that and plus 4
because I peeked and poked around in my spare time - you could port
programs from one for the other once you had it all mapped - really
loved that user port too, it was great for the hobbiest.
david hillstrom
<ev...@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:52:44 -0700, richard <mem...@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>RTFM...troll.
>
>What makes you think this person is a troll, troll?
>
>And what makes you think they still have the manual for the Commodore?
>
>>Are you really that serious or just being stoopid?
>
>You obviously can't be of any help, so STFU.
i used to like heating my coffee up on the drive unit.
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"Starcus Maffhorst" <maff...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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chuckcar
> how to start a program in commododore 64 ????
>
> Marcus
>
>
First, what do you have for storage? The C64 came with a tape drive, a
1541 170KB floppy drive (printed in big friendly letters on the front),
a 1581 3 1/2 800KB drive and others.
However a quick precis.
1541 drive #1: device number: 8
tape drive: device numer: 1
1541 drive #2: device number: 9
directory of floppy drive:
load"$",8,1
list
load a file:
load"<filename from above",8
to run a program:
run
load the next program on a tape drive:
load"*",1
(or l <shift-O> for short)
You naturally can't get a directory of a tape drive.
It's only a random storage device on weird computers
like the Coleco Adam.
Double check these with the above website. It's been over 20
years since I've touched one.
A simple web search of "c64 dos" found this:
click on the word FAQ on the right.
Truly amazing: you can hook up a SCSI drive to a C64!
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joevan
<nospam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Evan Platt "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:52:44 -0700, richard <mem...@newsguy.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>RTFM...troll.
>>
>> What makes you think this person is a troll, troll?
>>
>> And what makes you think they still have the manual for the Commodore?
>
>I still have the original manual for my Commodore, As a matter of fact, I
>also still have my old Commodore64 that came with the manual. Not that
>I'm using it any longer...
>
>>
>>>Are you really that serious or just being stoopid?
>>
>> You obviously can't be of any help, so STFU.
Did you make bird chirp sounds on your 64?
chuckcar
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It had a three voice synthesizer with full ADSL and waveform selection.
More than any IBM PC had before Adlib came out with their card much later.
It's sound capabilities were only surpassed in terms of games (as opposed
to music - which is all the original Adlib card was good for) when the
Soundblaster 1 hit the market.
There was a program that would make the hard drive play "Daisy"
ala 2001. Scary. Like the Mclaren F1 car playing "God Save the Queen"
scary. It did it by moving the cylinder stepper motor *real* fast.
thund3rstruck
Are you? Some people really love the simplicity of the old time games.
Of course, you can't cram a cassette tape or 5 1/4" floppy in your cdrom
drive and expect it to work. Easiest way is either an emulator or the
actual machine...
n0i
chuckcar
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Paradroid is one game I've got multiple versions of that originally
comes from the C64. Very unique game. I've played new two "versions" for
linux and the original.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradroid
thund3rstruck
> Paradroid is one game I've got multiple versions of that originally
> comes from the C64. Very unique game. I've played new two "versions" for
> linux and the original.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradroid
Never did the C64 scene. I was an Apple ][ guy...
n0i
Desk Rabbit
> joevan<joeva...@vanudity.com> wrote in
> news:779lq5912a1807igc...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 22:45:48 +0100, John Holmes
>> <nospam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Evan Platt "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:52:44 -0700, richard<mem...@newsguy.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> RTFM...troll.
>>>>
>>>> What makes you think this person is a troll, troll?
>>>>
>>>> And what makes you think they still have the manual for the
>>>> Commodore?
>>>
>>> I still have the original manual for my Commodore, As a matter of
>>> fact, I also still have my old Commodore64 that came with the manual.
>>> Not that I'm using it any longer...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Are you really that serious or just being stoopid?
>>>>
>>>> You obviously can't be of any help, so STFU.
>> Did you make bird chirp sounds on your 64?
>>
> It had a three voice synthesizer with full ADSL and waveform selection.
I think you meant to say ADSR. ADSL wasn't around when the C64 was in
production and has nothing to do with sound generation any way.
> More than any IBM PC had before Adlib came out with their card much later.
> It's sound capabilities were only surpassed in terms of games (as opposed
> to music - which is all the original Adlib card was good for) when the
> Soundblaster 1 hit the market.
>
> There was a program that would make the hard drive play "Daisy"
> ala 2001. Scary. Like the Mclaren F1 car playing "God Save the Queen"
> scary. It did it by moving the cylinder stepper motor *real* fast.
>
Please show me a C64 that had a hard drive.
Desk Rabbit
> how to start a program in commododore 64 ????
On one of these?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/25/commodore_64_redux/
Moldy Cheese
FromTheRafters wrote:
Run where?
chuckcar
news:hoftfg$nag$1...@deskrabbit.motzarella.org:
>> It had a three voice synthesizer with full ADSL and waveform
>> selection.
>
> I think you meant to say ADSR. ADSL wasn't around when the C64 was in
> production and has nothing to do with sound generation any way.
>
I don't know. I could downlad at 700 with mine <g> (b/s).
Yeah. Brain fart. Attack, Decay, Sustain and Release of course. BTW does
anyone out there know of an IBM equivalent for "Instant Music"? Greate
little piece of software that has a setting that would allow you to write
music using only 5ths in any key.
>> More than any IBM PC had before Adlib came out with their card much
>> later. It's sound capabilities were only surpassed in terms of games
>> (as opposed to music - which is all the original Adlib card was good
>> for) when the Soundblaster 1 hit the market.
>>
>> There was a program that would make the hard drive play "Daisy"
>> ala 2001. Scary. Like the Mclaren F1 car playing "God Save the Queen"
>> scary. It did it by moving the cylinder stepper motor *real* fast.
>>
>
> Please show me a C64 that had a hard drive.
>
No, with the 1541 5 1/4" floppy drive stepper motor of course. It
had a 6502 in it as well (well *sort* of the C64 had a 6510 in it,
the difference being some memory mapped I/O in low memory) and
could be user programmed. The disks had by default 40 cylinders,
but you *could* make the head go to track 45 if you wanted too.
It may not ever come *back* again without you opening the case
and physically moving the head back, but you could make it do it.
You could even upload ml to the drive and have it run it on it's own.
MOSTEK, Motorolla, NCR and Intel and others all made CPU chips
for the consumer market and now only Intel remains. A true
monopoly if there ever was one. Go bit slice!
chuckcar
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Played around with that too. Sort of. Had an Apple III for a while.
Tempermental beastie that one. Woz did a neat job on the graphics
with the pseudo sprites. Can't recall what they were called now.
cully when
AMD remains to compete with Intel. However, I don't recall NCR making
chips for the consumer market. NCR used Motorolla and Intel chipsets.
The Old Sourdough
snip
> MOSTEK, Motorolla, NCR and Intel and others all made CPU chips
> for the consumer market and now only Intel remains. A true
> monopoly if there ever was one. Go bit slice!
I guess AMD must have gone out of busines since I last checked, eh?
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chuckcar
> On 25/03/2010 21:53, chuckcar wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit<m...@example.com> wrote in
>> news:hoftfg$nag$1...@deskrabbit.motzarella.org:
>>
>>
>>
>> MOSTEK, Motorolla, NCR and Intel and others all made CPU chips
>> for the consumer market and now only Intel remains. A true
>> monopoly if there ever was one. Go bit slice!
>>
>>
> As we say over here, you don't half talk some bollocks..............
>
No, I don't say any here at all. Do some research.
Motorolla: the 68x family of microprocessors. Including the 68000.
The first proper 32 bit microprocessor on the market.
Mostek: the 6502, and other cpu's invented by other companies such as
the F8 and the Z80. Then there's the bit slice design your own
microprocessor alternative. Only the last remains.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_slicing
chuckcar
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> chuckcar wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit <m...@example.com> wrote in
>> news:hoftfg$nag$1...@deskrabbit.motzarella.org:
>>
>>> MOSTEK, Motorolla, NCR and Intel and others all made CPU chips
>> for the consumer market and now only Intel remains. A true
>> monopoly if there ever was one. Go bit slice!
>>
>>
>
> AMD remains to compete with Intel.
I'm not aware of any current AMD processors having a different
instruction set than the intel pentium family.
> However, I don't recall NCR making
> chips for the consumer market. NCR used Motorolla and Intel chipsets.
>
http://www.bing.com/search?srch=106&FORM=AS6&q=ncr+microprocessors
What do you mean by "consumer microprocessor market"? It's quite
different than "I got myself a Dell".
NCR at one point even made mainframes.
The last real competition for Intel to die was the Motorolla 680x0
line which was actually superior in architecture (a flat memory model
as opposed to Intel's unique and badly devised paging method).
cully when
I am well aware of the mini computers and mainframes NCR made. I was in
product support and then product management for years.
AMD is a competitor for Intel. Just because you forgot...
The Old Sourdough
>> chuckcar wrote:
>>> Desk Rabbit <m...@example.com> wrote in
>>> news:hoftfg$nag$1...@deskrabbit.motzarella.org:
>>>
>>>> MOSTEK, Motorolla, NCR and Intel and others all made CPU chips
>>> for the consumer market and now only Intel remains. A true
>>> monopoly if there ever was one. Go bit slice!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> AMD remains to compete with Intel.
> I'm not aware of any current AMD processors having a different
> instruction set than the intel pentium family.
What has that got to do with whether or not AMD is a competitor?
>> However, I don't recall NCR making
>> chips for the consumer market. NCR used Motorolla and Intel chipsets.
>>
> http://www.bing.com/search?srch=106&FORM=AS6&q=ncr+microprocessors
> What do you mean by "consumer microprocessor market"? It's quite
> different than "I got myself a Dell".
You used that term, not cully. What do you mean by it?
> NCR at one point even made mainframes.
> The last real competition for Intel to die was the Motorolla 680x0
> line which was actually superior in architecture (a flat memory model
> as opposed to Intel's unique and badly devised paging method).
Rubbish, as usual.
Why do you keep misspelling "Motorola"?
chuckcar
You didn't even look at search results did you?
cully when
I worked the for over a quarter century. What part of "I was in
product support and then product management for years" didn't you
understand.
chuckcar
> chuckcar wrote:
>> cully when <cull...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hokl2t$iia$1...@news.albasani.net:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.bing.com/search?srch=106&FORM=AS6&q=ncr+microprocessors
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean by "consumer microprocessor market"? It's quite
>>>> different than "I got myself a Dell".
>>>>
>>>> NCR at one point even made mainframes.
>>>>
>>>> The last real competition for Intel to die was the Motorolla 680x0
>>>> line which was actually superior in architecture (a flat memory
>>>> model as opposed to Intel's unique and badly devised paging
>>>> method).
>>>>
>>> Don't be such an ass. NCR did not make chips for the consumer
>>> market. I am well aware of the mini computers and mainframes NCR
>>> made. I was in product support and then product management for
>>> years.
>>>
>> You didn't even look at search results did you?
>>
> Way to snip.
Sorry about that. I usually snip my posts but over looked this one I guess.
> I worked the for over a quarter century. What part of "I was in
> product support and then product management for years" didn't you
> understand.
You never explained exactly what you meant by "consumer microporcessor
market either" I was talking about competitive processor designs, the
only true measure of competition in that market. That requires
processors to have a completely different instruction set to mean
anything. That means any microprocessor. 68040, 9600 series and so on.
Name one consumer computer that doesn't use Pentium family processors or
clones thereof.
On another note, It's nice to see serious posts from serious posters here
for a change. Welcome.
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Two Cents To The Starcus Maffhorst Post:
> how to start a program in commododore 64 ????
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxNRQ5U-3g4&feature=PlayList&p=96166584A8163C5E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=1
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rf
"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
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> Name one consumer computer that doesn't use Pentium family processors or
> clones thereof.
Never heard of Apples A2 processor, as used in their new iPad? Didn't think
so, you don't get out much to you chucktard.
http://www.apple.com/ipad/
http://www.slashgear.com/apple-ipad-a4-cpu-detailed-2871865/
Now, read the above and STFU.
chuckcar
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>
> "chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D48D8E...@127.0.0.1...
>
>> Name one consumer computer that doesn't use Pentium family processors
>> or clones thereof.
>
> Never heard of Apples A2 processor, as used in their new iPad? Didn't
> think so, you don't get out much to you chucktard.
>
Ipods could never be considers real computers. By anyone.
Mike Yetto
And iPads wouldn't be considered iPods by anyone.
Mike "an iPhone maybe" Yetto
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In practice they are not.
thund3rstruck
> Ipods could never be considers real computers. By anyone.
Technically neither are smartphones. However, on my Crackberry, I can
surf, do email RDP into the office and fix stuff, do word and excel
docs, etc. Same exact thing my laptop does. Only difference is my laptop
doesn't make/receive calls...only because I haven't set that up.
n0i
rf
"chuckcar" <ch...@nil.car> wrote in message
Who is talking about ipods? The word is ipAds, you illiterate bloody idiot.
And it's a much a computer as anything you will ever see, let alone
understand.
rf
> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:14:16 GMT, "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Who is talking about ipods? The word is ipAds, you illiterate bloody
>> idiot. And it's a much a computer as anything you will ever see, let
>> alone understand.
>
> one. I'm guessing not.
Probably not.
I'm waiting for his definition of a computer though. Should make riveting
reading.
FFS my telephone is a computer that is way more powerful than the ones that
assisted Messrs Armstrong et al to the moon a few decades ago.
Mike Yetto
> Evan Platt wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:14:16 GMT, "rf" <r...@z.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Who is talking about ipods? The word is ipAds, you illiterate bloody
>>> idiot. And it's a much a computer as anything you will ever see, let
>>> alone understand.
>>
>> Be interesting to see if the tard even tries to backpedal out of this
>> one. I'm guessing not.
>
> Probably not.
>
> I'm waiting for his definition of a computer though. Should make riveting
> reading.
>
Are we referring to those women who crunched numbers for
engineering firms, etc during the 1930s and 40s?
> FFS my telephone is a computer that is way more powerful than the ones that
> assisted Messrs Armstrong et al to the moon a few decades ago.
>
>
My car probably has even more. How do I set the GPS for the
Moon?
Mike "or chucktard's" Yetto
John H. Guillory
<err...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>"Evan Platt" <ev...@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote in message
>news:7fukq5h74ddrhud6h...@4ax.com...
>> <maff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>how to start a program in commododore 64 ????
>>
>> <filename>, but shit, been 15 years since I even looked at one.
>
>Yeah LOAD,x,x,x something like that - cat is like dir ya got save, list,
>open...
CAT is TRS-80 Color computer,
Commodore uses:
LOAD "$",8
LIST
find the program you want, then either
LOAD "program",8
RUN
or for machine language
LOAD "program",8,1
Then you may need to type a SYS command, or it could be an auto-start
program.... A shortcut is to type LOAD "program",8: and then press
shift and the run-stop keys to auto run the program after loading...
VanguardLH
> FromTheRafters wrote on Wed, 24 Mar 2010:
<something 2 years ago with replies also dated 2 years ago>
>
<a possible answer 2 years later>
Picture the OP's skeleton sitting in a chair and slumped over a monitor
with cobwebs over everything and dust everywhere. You thought the OP
was still waiting for a response after 2 years?