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BRAVE HEART

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Islam Vs Terrorism


The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or silm" which
means peace. Muhammad(pbuh), himself had a very peaceful nature, was
extremely tolerant, and highly protective of the non-Muslim minorities
living in the Muslim state. However, there are times when states find
war inevitable, but Islam only permits war in specific and dire
circumstances. It keeps warfare at a level of mercy and respect for
the enemy that no other army has been able to reach. The Prophet
sometimes had to fight for the mere survival of his people and
message, but once their security was ensured, he immediately reverted
to peace and diplomacy.

There is a rigid code Muslims must abide by in deciding when they can
fight and how the fighting should be conducted. War itself is
despised, and is only a last-resort option when all other attempts at
peace have been made. A Muslim is never allowed to initiate
hostilities.
"And fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you,
but transgress not the limits. Surely, Allah likes not the
transgressors."The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 2,Verse 190.

The only times in which believers are allowed to take up arms are when
they are defending their own lives and the lives of their people, when
they see the weak being oppressed in acts of tyranny, and when they
are prohibited from practicing their religion: "And slay them wherever
ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you
out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them
at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there,
but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of
disbelievers." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 2, Verse 191.

"They question thee (O Muhammad) with regard to warfare in the sacred
month. Say: Warfare therein is a great (transgression), but to turn
(men) from the way of Allah, and to disbelieve in Him and in the
Inviolable Place of Worship, and to expel His people thence, is a
greater with Allah; for persecution is worse than killing. And they
will not cease from fighting against you till they have made you
renegades from your religion, if they can. And whoso be cometh a
renegade and dieth in his disbelief: such are they whose works have
fallen both in the world and the Hereafter, Such are rightful owners
of the Fire: they will abide therein," The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 2,
Verse 217.
Aside from these circumstances, there is no legitimate fighting in
Islam.

The conditions placed upon the soldier in battle are of utmost respect
for the enemy and for human life. Islam makes a clear distinction
between combatants and noncombatants, forbidding soldiers to harm
defenseless civilian in any way. The Prophet said: "Do not kill the
women, children, aged or the ill." He also prohibited Muslims from
harming monks in their monasteries or hermits in their caves. Cutting
down trees, destroying livestock, wells, homes or land of the enemy is
likewise forbidden. Upon seeing the corpse of a woman in a
battlefield, Prophet Muhammad asked his companions why she had been
killed, and condemned it. There is no excuse for any expedition or
attack resulting in the killing of civilians, no one has the right to
take innocent lives.

For those enemies active in combat and those taken prisoner of war,
the list of rights is lengthy. There is no torture, no killing of the
wounded or defenseless, and the return of corpses to the enemy is
honored. There is no mutilation of the enemy bodies. Even after Hind
bint Utbah, a powerful lady of Makkah, chewed the liver of the
Prophet's uncle, Hamzah, after he was killed in a battle between
Muhammad and her non-Muslim people, Muhammad still forbade his men
from disrespecting a creation of God in such a way The Prophet
commanded the believers to treat the prisoners of war with kindness.
One prisoner by the name of Abu Aziz told how surprised he was to see
the Muslims giving the better part of their meal-the bread-to the
prisoners while they themselves just had dates. "Not a crumb of bread
would fall into their hands without them giving it to me," he
narrated, "and I would be so embarrassed that I would reject it. But
then they would return it back to me." The Qur'an lays down strict
guidelines for the declaration of war by a Muslim army, and Muslims
are prohibited from breaching any treaty to which they have agreed.
"If you fear treachery from any people throw back (their covenant) to
them (so as to be) on equal terms (that there will be no more covenant
between you and them), Certainly Allah likes not the treacherous.The
Holy Qur'an,Chapter 8,Verse 58.

The extent of the Prophet's mercy can be seen in the Muslim conquest
of Makkah, which happened towards the end of his life. The Makkan
tribe of Quraish had blatantly violated the significant "Treaty of
Hudaybiyya" by supplying men and arms in an effort to attack a Muslim-
allied tribe. They had slaughtered ruthlessly, even killing inside the
Holy Sanctuary, and knew they could expect retaliation for such a
weighty crime. Muhammad, upon learning of the raid, set out for Makkah
at the head of a colossal army of 10,000 men. Everyone wondered how he
would conduct this expedition; if he wanted revenge for all the
mockery, persecution, and murders of his companions, now was certainly
the time. His forces humiliatingly outnumbered his enemies.

When the army reached the outskirts of Makkah, they came upon the
chief of Quraish, the archenemy of Islam, Abu Sufvan. Several Muslims
were furious and wished to see him dead, but the noble Prophet
received him. Muhammad asked his uncle, Abbas, to take Abu Sufyan
ahead to a high gorge-giving him a full view of the Muslim army
approaching Makkah. The leader must have felt his heart leap to his
throat as he watched group after group, tribe after tribe pass in
front of him. Finally, he turned to 'Abbas and asked incredulously,
"Oh Abbas! Who are all these people?" Abbas's reply was plain and
powerful: "This is the Apostle of Allah and his Companions."

When Abu Sufyan approached the Prophet Muhammad begging for pardon and
forgiveness, it was not revenge he heard coming from Muhammad's
blessed lips. Instead, the Prophet simply said: "He who takes refuge
in Abu Sufyan's house is safe; whosoever confines himself to his
house, the people therein will be in safety; and he who enters the
Sacred Mosque is safe." With these words Muhammad gave a full pardon
and amnesty to the city of Makkah, and it was conquered in peace. To
Wahshi, the murderer of Muhammad's uncle Hamzah; a pardon. To Hind,
who mutilated his body and chewed his liver, absolute clemency. To
Habar, who had attacked the Prophet's daughter so brutally that she
eventually died, forgiveness.

After seeing this, the people started to accept Islam in crowds, as
long before, God had promised Muhammad they would. " When comes the
Help of Allah (to you against your enemies) and conquest (of Makkah),
And you see that the people enter Allah's Religion (Islam) in crowds,
So glorify the Praises of your Lord, and ask for His forgiveness.
Verily, He is the One Who accepts the repentance and forgives"The Holy
Qur'an, Chapter 110,Verse 1-3.

As families were reunited and the Muslims celebrated being back in the
sacred city, Muhammad had other things in mind. After offering prayers
to God for the victory, he proceeded directly to the House of God, the
Ka'bah, that had been polluted by the 360 man-made idols. The Prophet
of God proceeded to knock them to the ground with his bow. As he did,
he recited the Qur'anic verse: "And Say: Truth (Islamic Monotheism)
has come and falsehood (Polythesm) has vanished. Surely! Falsehood is
ever-bound to vanish."The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 17,Verse 81.

"Al-Amin" returned to Madinah, where he spent the last years of his
extraordinary life in worship and devotion to his Lord. He continued
to stand in prayer for hours throughout the night until his ankles
were swollen and his wife asked him to stop.
Although he was a ruler of a vast empire in his last years, he
continued to sleep on a modest straw mat, with no desire for carpets,
or luxuries of any kind. He became ill and passed away in the arms of
his wife, Aisha, at the age of 63. He left behind a stunning legacy, a
blameless example and a religion that changed the world forever.

Buffalo

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BRAVE HEART wrote:
> Islam Vs Terrorism
>
>
> The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or silm" which
> means peace. Muhammad(pbuh), himself had a very peaceful nature, was
> extremely tolerant, and highly protective of the non-Muslim minorities
> living in the Muslim state. However, there are times when states find
> war inevitable, but Islam only permits war in specific and dire
> circumstances. It keeps warfare at a level of mercy and respect for
> the enemy that no other army has been able to reach.

I would be interested in proof of the above sentence. Perhaps some examples.

>The Prophet
> sometimes had to fight for the mere survival of his people and
> message, but once their security was ensured, he immediately reverted
> to peace and diplomacy.
>
> There is a rigid code Muslims must abide by in deciding when they can
> fight and how the fighting should be conducted. War itself is
> despised, and is only a last-resort option when all other attempts at
> peace have been made.

Are you positive? No exceptions?

>A Muslim is never allowed to initiate
> hostilities.

Never?

> "And fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you,
> but transgress not the limits. Surely, Allah likes not the
> transgressors."The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 2,Verse 190.

Kind of like the beheading of innocents. Yeah, really just.

> The only times in which believers are allowed to take up arms are when
> they are defending their own lives and the lives of their people, when
> they see the weak being oppressed in acts of tyranny, and when they
> are prohibited from practicing their religion: "And slay them wherever
> ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you
> out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them
> at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there,
> but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of
> disbelievers." The Holy Qur'an,Chapter 2, Verse 191.

Try rereading that verse about 100 times and see if you can truely justify
the actions of Islams in the last ten years..

> "They question thee (O Muhammad) with regard to warfare in the sacred
> month. Say: Warfare therein is a great (transgression), but to turn
> (men) from the way of Allah, and to disbelieve in Him and in the
> Inviolable Place of Worship, and to expel His people thence, is a
> greater with Allah; for persecution is worse than killing. And they
> will not cease from fighting against you till they have made you
> renegades from your religion, if they can.

So that is why you 'peaceful' people slaughter everyone that disagrees with
you? How ignorant and easy. :(
Start to think for yourselves, as your children will soon do, due to the
Internet and increased global communications. They will not be as ignorant
as you and your predecessors. They will learn to think outside the little
box you are in.

[snipped due to irrelevent to being an adult and being able to think
compassionately about others, even if their belief are different than yours]

I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos and all I can say is I hope
you !!!!!!
Crawl out of the hole your head and mind is buried in and pray to Allah for
TRUE enlightenment and forgiveness for your extreme ignorance and prejudice
and hatred.

Buffalo

chuckcar

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Dec 27, 2009, 11:31:19 PM12/27/09
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"Buffalo" <Er...@nada.com.invalid> wrote in
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>
>
> BRAVE HEART wrote:
>> Islam Vs Terrorism
>>
>>
>> The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or silm" which
>> means peace. Muhammad(pbuh), himself had a very peaceful nature, was
>> extremely tolerant, and highly protective of the non-Muslim
>> minorities living in the Muslim state. However, there are times when
>> states find war inevitable, but Islam only permits war in specific
>> and dire circumstances. It keeps warfare at a level of mercy and
>> respect for the enemy that no other army has been able to reach.
>
> I would be interested in proof of the above sentence. Perhaps some
> examples.
>
> >The Prophet
>> sometimes had to fight for the mere survival of his people and
>> message, but once their security was ensured, he immediately reverted
>> to peace and diplomacy.
>>
>> There is a rigid code Muslims must abide by in deciding when they can
>> fight and how the fighting should be conducted. War itself is
>> despised, and is only a last-resort option when all other attempts at
>> peace have been made.
>
> Are you positive? No exceptions?
>
>>A Muslim is never allowed to initiate
>> hostilities.
>
> Never?
>

No of course he isn't sure. Islam is founded by Mohammed invading Mecca
and taking it over - killing the ancestors of people who are now
muslims.


Just another wacko that wants money for fertilizer.


--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

OldGringo38

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Dec 27, 2009, 11:38:22 PM12/27/09
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In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
Two Cents To The BRAVE HEART Post:
> Islam Vs Terrorism
>
>
> The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or silm" He left behind a stunning legacy, a

> blameless example and a religion that changed the world forever.
It is very kind of you to share this information about the Islamic
religion, however I believe this information would be better served
on a Radical Islamic web site.

--
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Just West Of Nowhere
Enjoy Life And Live It To Its Fullest
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BRAVE HEART <doc.s...@gmail.com> wrote:

>The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or silm" which
>means peace.

Rest of bullshit snipped.

You got it wrong right from the get go, just like your pedophile mass
murderer so-called prophet muhammad.

The words islam has NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to do with salam or
peace in Arabic.

The word islam means submission, which is means submitting yourself to
allah, the god of muhammad (which muslims deny the fact that allah was
the idol of pre-islam arabs, the moon god), and that is it, no relations
WHATSOEVER to anything even remotely close to peace.

HEMI-Powered

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Buffalo added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

>> The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or silm"
>> which means peace. Muhammad(pbuh), himself had a very peaceful
>> nature, was extremely tolerant, and highly protective of the
>> non-Muslim minorities living in the Muslim state. However,
>> there are times when states find war inevitable, but Islam only
>> permits war in specific and dire circumstances. It keeps
>> warfare at a level of mercy and respect for the enemy that no
>> other army has been able to reach.
>
> I would be interested in proof of the above sentence. Perhaps
> some examples.

Does it really matter? The trouble with today's PC world is that
words that formerly had well understood meanings have all been
perverted to mean something else. Personally, I'd rather we have
LESS "diversity" and MORE intolerance. If them Islams or Orientals
or wet backs or any of the hundreds of other ethnic groups want a
better place to live, let them fix up their own country. And, if
the US is so bad, why does everyone want to come here? As to war,
MacArthur said it best "in war, there is NO substitute for
victory" - when war is necessary, send overwhelming force to the
enemies country, start at one border, destroy or kill everything
you come across until you reach the far border, declare victory. As
for them who wants nukes for their country, I'm more than happy to
use our stockpile to turn their shit-ass country from sand into
glass.

--
Jerry, aka HP

"Efficiency is doing things right, effectiveness is doing the right
things" - Peter Drucker

Aardvark

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Dec 28, 2009, 8:39:34 AM12/28/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:

> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos

So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by four
people. It took a good five minutes.

Sickening.

--
Like one that on a lonesome road Doth walk in fear and dread,
And having once turned round walks on, And turns no more his head,
Because he knows some frightful fiend Doth close behind him tread.
-Samuel Taylor Coleridge 'The Rime of the Ancient Mariner', 1797

HEMI-Powered

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...

>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos


>
> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held
> down by four people. It took a good five minutes.
>
> Sickening.
>

Then, why not get the Socialists where you live to help us stop these
monsters?

OldGringo38

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Two Cents To The Aardvark Post:

> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>
>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>
> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by four
> people. It took a good five minutes.
>
> Sickening.
>
>
>
I wonder what the Radical Atheist are doing? <g>

Bucky Breeder

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Aardvark <aard...@youllnever.know> via
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> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>
>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>
> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he
> was held down by four people. It took a good five minutes.
>
> Sickening.


Yes... it is! I hacked the head off one of my sister's
dolls when I was a kid playing soldier. She cried.
I still feel bad about that when I think about it.

Thanks for the auld lang syne, you mean-ole British-gnatzee!

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; ;
and on the 'AWESOMENESS METER'
I am about two clicks better than 'TOTALLY';
furthermore, I am taking an indefinate hiatus from golf
so I can spend more time with my wives and mistresses
and other assorted low-profile fine-ass white-women.

You should not view the world in terms
of things which you do - or do not - "like";
rather, you should view the world in terms
of how things "actually are", recognizing
and finding acceptance of them as such.

This would immeasurably bring *much* more
stability, peace and tranquility into your life.

I could help you with that... but...
I really just don't like you that much.

Repent! The end is near.... So, smoke 'em if you got 'em.

Best wishes to all for a safe and joyous holiday season!

Bucky Breeder

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OldGringo38 <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> via
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> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
> Two Cents To The Aardvark Post:
>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>>
>>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>>
>> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by
>> four people. It took a good five minutes.
>>
>> Sickening.
>>
>>
>>
> I wonder what the Radical Atheist are doing? <g>


Decorating their houses with too many lights and caricatures;
running-up their credit card debt ratios, for the economy,
country, and the Devil himself!

OldGringo38

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Two Cents To The Bucky Breeder Post:

> OldGringo38 <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> via
> news:hhaf3a$3kt$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
>> Two Cents To The Aardvark Post:
>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>>> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by
>>> four people. It took a good five minutes.
>>>
>>> Sickening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I wonder what the Radical Atheist are doing? <g>
>
>
> Decorating their houses with too many lights and caricatures;
> running-up their credit card debt ratios, for the economy,
> country, and the Devil himself!
>
Hey Bucky, if that Nigerian Bankers son hadn't turned radical you
might just have gotten the millions you were hoping for from Nigeria.<g>

§nühw¤£f

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OldGringo38 wrote:
> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My Two
> Cents To The Bucky Breeder Post:
>> OldGringo38 <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> via
>> news:hhaf3a$3kt$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
>>> Two Cents To The Aardvark Post:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>>>> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by
>>>> four people. It took a good five minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Sickening.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I wonder what the Radical Atheist are doing? <g>
>>
>>
>> Decorating their houses with too many lights and caricatures;
>> running-up their credit card debt ratios, for the economy,
>> country, and the Devil himself!
>>
> Hey Bucky, if that Nigerian Bankers son hadn't turned radical you might
> just have gotten the millions you were hoping for from Nigeria.<g>
>
Stupid people think you can kill a meme. It has to be either
re-engineered or mutated in a desirable way.

Discuss.

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OldGringo38

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> OldGringo38 wrote:
>> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
>> Two Cents To The Bucky Breeder Post:
>>> OldGringo38 <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> via
>>> news:hhaf3a$3kt$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
>>>> Two Cents To The Aardvark Post:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>>>>> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by
>>>>> four people. It took a good five minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sickening.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I wonder what the Radical Atheist are doing? <g>
>>>
>>>
>>> Decorating their houses with too many lights and caricatures;
>>> running-up their credit card debt ratios, for the economy,
>>> country, and the Devil himself!
>>>
>> Hey Bucky, if that Nigerian Bankers son hadn't turned radical you
>> might just have gotten the millions you were hoping for from Nigeria.<g>
>>
> Stupid people think you can kill a meme. It has to be either
> re-engineered or mutated in a desirable way.
>
> Discuss.
>
?? I guess.

Bucky Breeder

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OldGringo38 <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> via news:hhah41$lls$1...@news.eternal-
september.org:

> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
> Two Cents To The Bucky Breeder Post:
>> OldGringo38 <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> via
>> news:hhaf3a$3kt$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
>>> Two Cents To The Aardvark Post:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>>>> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by
>>>> four people. It took a good five minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Sickening.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I wonder what the Radical Atheist are doing? <g>
>>
>>
>> Decorating their houses with too many lights and caricatures;
>> running-up their credit card debt ratios, for the economy,
>> country, and the Devil himself!
>>
> Hey Bucky, if that Nigerian Bankers son hadn't turned radical you
> might just have gotten the millions you were hoping for from Nigeria.<g>

I sent my $5...

Opportunity only knocks once via spam.
I gonna beeeee sooooooo RICHHHHhhhhhh... <shivers>

~(^%

Bucky Breeder

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> OldGringo38 wrote:
>> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My Two
>> Cents To The Bucky Breeder Post:
>>> OldGringo38 <NoE...@ThisOldHouse.Con> via
>>> news:hhaf3a$3kt$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>> In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
>>>> Two Cents To The Aardvark Post:
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>>>>> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by
>>>>> four people. It took a good five minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sickening.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I wonder what the Radical Atheist are doing? <g>
>>>
>>>
>>> Decorating their houses with too many lights and caricatures;
>>> running-up their credit card debt ratios, for the economy,
>>> country, and the Devil himself!
>>>
>> Hey Bucky, if that Nigerian Bankers son hadn't turned radical you might
>> just have gotten the millions you were hoping for from Nigeria.<g>
>>
> Stupid people think you can kill a meme. It has to be either
> re-engineered or mutated in a desirable way.
>
> Discuss.

I mutated a meme once...
but the dawg ate it.

HTH

§nühw¤£f

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:02:52 AM12/28/09
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Naw, fuck doing the sensible thing. That aint the "merikin way :)
Instead become the New Stasi. Only be even better at being the Stasi
than the OG Stasi, yo!

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/28

Its easier to imprision and label than it is to mutate the mind-virus
that is Religion-X into a form that is less {whatever variable} you wish
to change. Plus it makes the Military Industrial Complex "necessary".
Uhmurikuh *needed* the Cold War[tm] to justify the huge expenditures of
the Pentagon, et.al.
So we create a New Enemy: muslim terraists!
TEHY H8 R FREEDUMZ!
ZOMGZ!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!

Its *all* fucking kabuki to ensure the status quo and the *continued*
profitablity of Big Oil. The projected "departure" date for Afghanistan
is 2014...which coincides with the projected *completion* date of the
GAS PIPELINE thru the same country.
FYI
HTH
HAND

Bucky Breeder

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EARTH TO RETRAD : The whole world ends 12.21.2012.

Don't you read the Mayan Calendars on your Discovery channels?

(Hint : you *may* have to take the tin-foil-lining out of your
li'l-pink-baby-bonnet to get the extended TV channels in your area.)

HTH, AARP, JKHLMNO

..RubberNeck

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Did that turn you on? you are sick freak.
 
 

Eagle

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I can't find the "Islam Vs. Terrorism" thread....
 
 
"..RubberNeck" <..rn@rn.oop> wrote in message news:EpCdnf5J4dgab6XW...@trueband.net...

Aardvark

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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:52:39 -0800, Eagle wrote:
>
>> "..RubberNeck" <..rn@rn.oop> wrote in message
>> news:EpCdnf5J4dgab6XW...@trueband.net...
>
>>> "Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
>>> news:hhacem$v94$2...@news.eternal-september.org...

>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>
>>>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>
>>> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by
>>> four people. It took a good five minutes.
>
>>> Sickening.
>
>
>
>> Did that turn
>> you on?

Can't you read, moron? I described it as 'sickening'.

>> you are sick freak.

Do you have a different definition of 'sick' or 'sickening' than normal
people have?

>I can't find the "Islam Vs. Terrorism" thread....

Well, DUH! You've just posted in it.

Eagle

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"Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
news:hhavtj$oi0$1...@news.eternal-september.org...

> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:52:39 -0800, Eagle wrote:
>>
>>> "..RubberNeck" <..rn@rn.oop> wrote in message
>>> news:EpCdnf5J4dgab6XW...@trueband.net...
>>
>>>> "Aardvark" <aard...@youllnever.know> wrote in message
>>>> news:hhacem$v94$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 21:12:10 -0700, Buffalo wrote:
>>
>>>>> I just watched one of 'your' beheading videos
>>
>>>> So did I. Some kid hacking off a man's head while he was held down by
>>>> four people. It took a good five minutes.
>>
>>>> Sickening.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Did that turn
>>> you on?
>
> Can't you read, moron? I described it as 'sickening'.
>
>>> you are sick freak.
>
> Do you have a different definition of 'sick' or 'sickening' than normal
> people have?
>
>>I can't find the "Islam Vs. Terrorism" thread....
>
> Well, DUH! You've just posted in it.
>
Look, young fellow, I see ONE post with that title....yours. The rest
doesn't list on my reader.
Could you be a sport and post the link in question?

Sloppy van Lin

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Hovark is not a young lad out of England. She is packing a serious
Tampon here everyday.

~BD~

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On 28/12/2009 19:24, Eagle wrote:
> Look, young fellow, I see ONE post with that title....yours. The rest
> doesn't list on my reader.
> Could you be a sport and post the link in question?
>

You are sounding more like an English gentleman every day, Dave! ;)

I, too, was a little puzzled for a while ..... but here is the header of
the *original* post:-


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From: BRAVE HEART<doc.s...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: 24hoursupport.helpdesk
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Islam Vs Terrorism


*****************

You will note that it was made in the '24hoursupport.helpdesk' newsgroup, not SE.

HTH 'old chum'! :)

--
Dave (Sometimes man stumbles over the truth ...... Sir Winston Churchill)

Eagle

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Sloppy van Lin used his keyboard to write :

That's good to know. Maybe this young lass would be so kind as to post
the link I previously requested? :/

--
Says Dave [Eagle]
I think, therefore I is


Eagle

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Dec 28, 2009, 2:36:45 PM12/28/09
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~BD~ wrote :

Thanx Dave!
I'm a Brit at heart....maybe that is because My fathers side of the
Family is from GB?

~BD~

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Dec 28, 2009, 2:40:54 PM12/28/09
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On 28/12/2009 19:36, Eagle wrote:
>
> Thanx Dave!

You're welcome!


> I'm a Brit at heart....maybe that is because My fathers side of the
> Family is from GB?
>

Whatever ........ It's good to have you alongside! :)

Eagle

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~BD~ used his keyboard to write :

> On 28/12/2009 19:36, Eagle wrote:
>>
>> Thanx Dave!
>
> You're welcome!
>
>
>> I'm a Brit at heart....maybe that is because My fathers side of the Family
>> is from GB?
>>
>
> Whatever ........ It's good to have you alongside! :)

I still can't find the link to those videos....

Mr Pounder

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"Buffalo" <Er...@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> BRAVE HEART wrote:
>> Islam Vs Terrorism

>>
>>
>> The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or silm" which
>> means peace. Muhammad(pbuh), himself had a very peaceful nature, was
>> extremely tolerant, and highly protective of the non-Muslim minorities
>> living in the Muslim state. However, there are times when states find
>> war inevitable, but Islam only permits war in specific and dire
>> circumstances. It keeps warfare at a level of mercy and respect for
>> the enemy that no other army has been able to reach.
>
> I would be interested in proof of the above sentence. Perhaps some
> examples.
>

Arseholes, they are all arseholes.
The world would be a much better place without them.

Mr Pounder
>
>
>
>
>


~BD~

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:05:28 PM12/28/09
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On 28/12/2009 19:44, Eagle wrote:
> ~BD~ used his keyboard to write :
>> On 28/12/2009 19:36, Eagle wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanx Dave!
>>
>> You're welcome!
>>
>>
>>> I'm a Brit at heart....maybe that is because My fathers side of the
>>> Family is from GB?
>>>
>>
>> Whatever ........ It's good to have you alongside! :)
>
> I still can't find the link to those videos....
>


There's 289,000 links here
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=beheading+videos&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Not a good place to explore, Dave.

BT DT - not good to watch a live person having their head cut off with
a bread knife - IMO.

Eagle

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"~BD~" <Boate...@theobvious.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:zqGdnaOgKu4VkqTW...@bt.com...

> On 28/12/2009 19:44, Eagle wrote:
>> ~BD~ used his keyboard to write :
>>> On 28/12/2009 19:36, Eagle wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanx Dave!
>>>
>>> You're welcome!
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm a Brit at heart....maybe that is because My fathers side of the
>>>> Family is from GB?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever ........ It's good to have you alongside! :)
>>
>> I still can't find the link to those videos....
>>
>
>
> There's 289,000 links here
> http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=beheading+videos&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>
> Not a good place to explore, Dave.
>
> BT DT - not good to watch a live person having their head cut off with a
> bread knife - IMO.
>
> --
Very sickening. All this from the "peace loving" Muslim religion..


thanatoid

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BRAVE HEART <doc.s...@gmail.com> wrote in
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oups.com:

> Islam Vs Terrorism
>
> The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or
> silm" which means peace.

<religious stuff SNIPped>

If the US didn't fuck with all the nations in the world which
have resources of any kind which can make 50,000 richest
Americans even richer, there would be no "terrorism" as
understood by the average mass-media-lies-fed American.

OldGringo38

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In The Beginning God Created The Heavens And Earth, Then I Added My
Two Cents To The thanatoid Post:
The United States of America was born on war. So sit back relax,
place your hands behind your head, lean forward and place your head
between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye as you could be next.

Buffalo

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C'mon now, thanatoid.
You must be in one of your lows.
Get better,
Buffalo


§nühw¤£f

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The soviet union used to label dissidents as "mentally unfit" and send
them off to "reindoctrination camps".

Maybe its *you* who are deluded?

^_^

Bucky Breeder

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> Buffalo wrote:
>> thanatoid wrote:
>>> BRAVE HEART <doc.s...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:e39c0fa3-cd67-4cbf...@j42g2000yqd.googlegr
>>> oups.com:
>>>
>>>> Islam Vs Terrorism
>>>>
>>>> The word "Islam" is closely related to the word "salam or
>>>> silm" which means peace.
>>> <religious stuff SNIPped>
>>>
>>> If the US didn't fuck with all the nations in the world which
>>> have resources of any kind which can make 50,000 richest
>>> Americans even richer, there would be no "terrorism" as
>>> understood by the average mass-media-lies-fed American.
>>
>> C'mon now, thanatoid.
>> You must be in one of your lows.
>> Get better,
>> Buffalo
>>
>>
> The soviet union used to label dissidents as

just some of them...

> "mentally unfit"

well, I guess they must have been, ehh...

> and send them off to "reindoctrination camps".

*free* colleges...


Yeah... yeah... oh, yeah... and *they* *had* *FREE*
health care to, so if you played soprts even a little
good you got *all* your steroids for *FREE*. No taxes,
no lines, no prollem.

HTH, IRA, AARP, URL and SCUD

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