Leaky windows
Universal Rooster
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On Jan 6, 6:30 pm, Universal Rooster <universalroos...@yahoo.com>
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> This article from the NYT on leaky condos http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/realestate/25cov.html?emc=eta1 and evidence of leaking windows in one unit has me wondering whether windows are poorly designed, or whether they are just poorly installed in some units. Great views though. Anyone else notice similar leaks in other units?
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Liana
and never noticed any water damage (but admittedly was not looking).
The water damage shown in the pictures seems pretty eye-catching, and
considering the building has been up for a while you would expect this
sort of thing to have made an appearance by now if there is an issue.
I can say definitively that there is nothing like this in our unit (B
line), so maybe it is due to poor window installation in the pictured
unit.
Interesting to note that lawyers from the sponsor's attorney (Wolf
Haldenstein) are quoted throughout the article. The moral of the
article seems to be that it's more effective to negotiate while you
still can than try to litigate later, so thanks everyone who has taken
initiative in setting up groups, etc. online to point out issues while
we still have some bargaining power.
On Jan 6, 7:11 pm, D <akd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds like doing the infrared scans would be worth it...
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> On Jan 6, 6:30 pm, Universal Rooster <universalroos...@yahoo.com>
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> > This article from the NYT on leaky condoshttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/realestate/25cov.html?emc=eta1and evidence of leaking windows in one unit has me wondering whether windows are poorly designed, or whether they are just poorly installed in some units. Great views though. Anyone else notice similar leaks in other units?
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universalrooster
will pick up will be thermal loss around the window edges due to poor
insulation/sealing of the windows. Unless it is pouring rain when the
scan is done, it will not pick up the water leaks due to rain water.
On the other hand, it does not take a scan to determine that there are
leaks in these windows. The questions seem to be where are the leaks
coming from, why are there leaks, and what it will take to repair the
leaks?
For now, negotiation is back/forth with sponsor's attorney as to
whether possible structural issues, including windows, are punch-list
items or not. Removing/re-installing large windows on a high-rise
seems is in a different category of repair than knobs, outlets,
cracked walls, and leaky faucets. A bucket of paint and a bunch of
handy-men won't resolve this problem for the long-term. Wolf
Haldenstain, which appears to represent plaintiffs in condos with
structural defects, would know this, and will of course try to
minimize the legal risk to the sponsor ... So negotiations go on and
on.....
On Jan 7, 4:23 pm, Liana <vitale.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree re: the infrared scans, although I have been in a few units
> and never noticed any water damage (but admittedly was not looking).
> The water damage shown in the pictures seems pretty eye-catching, and
> considering the building has been up for a while you would expect this
> sort of thing to have made an appearance by now if there is an issue.
> I can say definitively that there is nothing like this in our unit (B
> line), so maybe it is due to poor window installation in the pictured
> unit.
>
> Interesting to note that lawyers from the sponsor's attorney (Wolf
> Haldenstein) are quoted throughout the article. The moral of the
> article seems to be that it's more effective to negotiate while you
> still can than try to litigate later, so thanks everyone who has taken
> initiative in setting up groups, etc. online to point out issues while
> we still have some bargaining power.
>
> On Jan 6, 7:11 pm, D <akd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Sounds like doing the infrared scans would be worth it...
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> > On Jan 6, 6:30 pm, Universal Rooster <universalroos...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > This article from the NYT on leaky condoshttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/realestate/25cov.html?emc=eta1andevidence of leaking windows in one unit has me wondering whether windows are poorly designed, or whether they are just poorly installed in some units. Great views though. Anyone else notice similar leaks in other units?
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