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Apr 20, 2009, 9:09:37 AM4/20/09
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So many people have emailed me about planting street trees that it
seems like it's really worth mentioning here now.

I am in touch with Rasheed Hislop from the Parks Department, and will
be getting the 411 soon about what it takes to get a street tree.

But in the meantime, does anyone have practical experience with this?
Every single person I talk to about street trees says an emphatic YES!
to them, but then says that whenever you plant them, it turns into a
great opportunity to get neighbors whining at you about leaves on
their cars and whatnot. And I know that on my block, the current Block
Association President is opposed to more trees, because he thinks that
trees make crime happen.

Anyone else have experience? Any ideas for working through these fears
about litter and crime?

laurie broccolo

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Apr 20, 2009, 9:29:33 AM4/20/09
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"Seeing Green pevents People from Being Mean" ...a study by Univ of Illinois at the Urbana-Champaign, Human-Environment Research Laboratory  at www.herl.uiuc.edu
It is so sad that ignorance and disconnect of nature has turned society into desolate concrete and pavement communities without the health benefits of a green environment
 
Re-planting Urban street trees, the Cornell University has wonderful info on planting bare root trees in neighborhoods with better survival than traditional plantings, less cost, less labor and healthier plants. Nina Bassik of Cornell is is a great resource  www.hort.cornell.edu/department/faculty/bassuk/

Laurie Broccolo, CEO 
Certified Nursery Professional
Broccolo Tree & Lawn Care
2059 Brighton-Henrietta TL Rd.
Rochester, NY 14623
585-424-4476 fax 585-292-0995
www.broccologroup.com


 
> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:09:37 -0700
> Subject: Street Trees
> From: 21stcentur...@gmail.com
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BWal...@saratogaassociates.com

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Apr 20, 2009, 9:46:14 AM4/20/09
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I am a Certified Arborist and landscape deisgner in NYC, and have experience in planting street trees in all 5 boroughs. Interested parties who wish to have street trees planted should contact 311 to begin the process (it may seem crazy, but this really does work). Keep in mind that if the planting location includes removal of sidewalk, a DOT permit will be required. Also, Million Trees NYC is currently planting trees and will continue again in the fall. You should check with them to see if trees are planned for your neighborhood. I am happy to help in any way that I can.

 
Brett H. Wallace, LEED AP
Landscape Designer
Certified Arborist
 
SARATOGA ASSOCIATES
Landscape Architects, Architects, Engineers, and Planners, P.C.
299 Broadway, Suite 900, New York, NY  10007
T 212 260 0250 ext. 1116, F 212 979 0758

 
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Tania Spencer

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Apr 20, 2009, 10:30:35 AM4/20/09
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Good Morning all,
 
I am the President of my block association Greene Avenue, between Throop and Marcus Garvey, and I requested a tree by calling 311.  I did it 3 times because I was told that I would receive something in the mail confirming my application.  Nothing came until the 3rd time. This was over a year ago.  The confirmation explains when the planting season is and that someone will come by the site to see if it is a good spot for a tree and mark the sidewalk.  For example, planting a tree too close to a light post is not a good idea. Other than the confirmation in the mail, I haven't heard anything.  My neighbor across the street requested her tree in 2005.  Still no tree. Just the stupid confirmation in the mail.
 
I am currently in touch with the parks department, and someone should be telling me this week what the status of my tree is.  I want to get to the bottom of this but at this point I want to plant my own tree.
 
My block association is newly formed and I think it would be a great meet and greet idea.  This is something I plan to suggest at our next meeting.
 
My question is what type a tree is good tree to plant, how much do trees cost, etc. I've never planted a thing in my entire life.  Where can I get this information, guidance and direction.  (Brett maybe you can help me with this)
 
I've never heard that trees encourage crime.  Without reading any studies or reports, I will go out on a limb and say that idea is Complete nonsense. 
So after all my rambling, I say that all to say that we should form a community wide initiative and plant our own trees.  I plan to get in touch with other block associations to see what they think and hopefully get them on board.
 
Tania Spencer
President
UGABA - United Greene Avenue Block Association.

supereco

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Apr 20, 2009, 10:36:14 AM4/20/09
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Hello Tania,

Perhaps someone from Partnerships for Parks could help you?
They provide communities with education about taking care of, and in some cases, planting street trees.
They have a big training course coming up called Partnership Academy.

http://www.partnershipforparks.org/

I've been in touch with Channaly Philipp over there. She's been very helpful. (212) 676-1929
Channaly...@parks.nyc.gov

She could probably put you in touch with your community outreach coordinator.

Hope this helps!

Liz Neves

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>> *Brett H. Wallace, LEED AP*
>> Landscape Designer
>> Certified Arborist
>>
>> SARATOGA ASSOCIATES
>> Landscape Architects, Architects, Engineers, and Planners, P.C.
>> 299 Broadway, Suite 900, New York, NY 10007
>> T 212 260 0250 ext. 1116, F 212 979 0758*
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>>
>> 04/20/2009 09:29 AM Please respond to
>> 21stcentur...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> To
>> <21stcentur...@googlegroups.com> cc
>> Subject
>> RE: Street Trees
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Seeing Green pevents People from Being Mean" ...a study by Univ of
>> Illinois at the Urbana-Champaign, Human-Environment Research Laboratory at
>> *www.herl.uiuc.edu* <http://www.herl.uiuc.edu/>
>> It is so sad that ignorance and disconnect of nature has turned society
>> into desolate concrete and pavement communities without the health benefits
>> of a green environment
>>
>> Re-planting Urban street trees, the Cornell University has wonderful info
>> on planting bare root trees in neighborhoods with better survival than
>> traditional plantings, less cost, less labor and healthier plants. Nina
>> Bassik of Cornell is is a great resource www.hort.*cornell*
>> .edu/department/faculty/bassuk/

BWal...@saratogaassociates.com

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Apr 20, 2009, 10:51:08 AM4/20/09
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Tania:
I am sorry to hear that it has taken so long to get a tree planted! I wish I could help expedite your requests. Keep bugging them for answers, and let me know what happens. As you can imagine, they are very busy this time of year. I may be able to contact someone to dig deeper into this matter. In the meantime, the following website has information on tree planting in NYC along with spacing restrictions, species selection, etc. Let me know if I can be of any assistance.
http://www.nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/trees_greenstreets/street_tree_plant.html

Brett

 
Brett H. Wallace, LEED AP
Landscape Designer
Certified Arborist
 
SARATOGA ASSOCIATES
Landscape Architects, Architects, Engineers, and Planners, P.C.
299 Broadway, Suite 900, New York, NY  10007
T 212 260 0250 ext. 1116, F 212 979 0758

 
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Tania Spencer

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Apr 20, 2009, 2:06:06 PM4/20/09
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Sweet! Thanks Liv and Brett.  I really appreciate the info.  I love this googlegroup already. :-)
 
Tania

Tania Spencer

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Apr 20, 2009, 3:37:26 PM4/20/09
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Hi Friends,
I just wanted to revise something that I said earlier ..."I've never heard that trees encourage crime.  Without reading any studies or reports, I will go out on a limb and say that idea is Complete nonsense."
 
What I really wanted to say was ... I respectfully disagree.  I want to start this Googlegroup on a good note. I don't want to express my opinions in a mean way.
 
Tania

Deborah Fisher

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Apr 20, 2009, 3:43:31 PM4/20/09
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Thanks for being so thoughtful about the tone!
I respectfully disagree as well!
--
Deborah Fisher
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Trash Talker

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Apr 20, 2009, 4:05:58 PM4/20/09
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If you'd like to use stronger language to disagree with nonsensical
ideas related to the environment, and litter in particular, you can
talk all the trash you want at www.wetalktrash.org.

;-)



On Apr 20, 3:43 pm, Deborah Fisher <21stcenturyplowsh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for being so thoughtful about the tone!
> I respectfully disagree as well!
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Tania Spencer <brownstonebk...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Friends,
> > I just wanted to revise something that I said earlier ..."I've never heard
> > that trees encourage crime.  Without reading any studies or reports, I will
> > go out on a limb and say that idea is Complete nonsense."
>
> > What I really wanted to say was ... I respectfully disagree.  I want to
> > start this Googlegroup on a good note. I don't want to express my opinions
> > in a mean way.
>
> > Tania
>
> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Tania Spencer <brownstonebk...@gmail.com
> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:46 AM, <BWall...@saratogaassociates.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I am a Certified Arborist and landscape deisgner in NYC, and have
> >>> experience in planting street trees in all 5 boroughs. Interested parties
> >>> who wish to have street trees planted should contact 311 to begin the
> >>> process (it may seem crazy, but this really does work). Keep in mind that if
> >>> the planting location includes removal of sidewalk, a DOT permit will be
> >>> required. Also, Million Trees NYC is currently planting trees and will
> >>> continue again in the fall. You should check with them to see if trees are
> >>> planned for your neighborhood. I am happy to help in any way that I can.
>
> >>> *Brett H. Wallace, LEED AP*
> >>> Landscape Designer
> >>> Certified Arborist
>
> >>> SARATOGA ASSOCIATES
> >>> Landscape Architects, Architects, Engineers, and Planners, P.C.
> >>> 299 Broadway, Suite 900, New York, NY  10007
> >>> T 212 260 0250 ext. 1116, F 212 979 0758*
> >>>  **P *Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
> >>> This e-mail, including attachments, may contain information that is
> >>> confidential and it may be protected by the attorney/client or other
> >>> privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public
> >>> information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If
> >>> you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail, including
> >>> attachments, and notify me by return mail or e-mail. The unauthorized use,
> >>> dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including
> >>> attachments is prohibited and may be unlawful.
>
> >>>   *laurie broccolo <lrbrocc...@hotmail.com>*
> >>> Sent by: 21stcentur...@googlegroups.com
>
> >>> 04/20/2009 09:29 AM
> >>>   Please respond to
> >>> 21stcentur...@googlegroups.com
>
> >>>    To
> >>> <21stcentur...@googlegroups.com>  cc
> >>>   Subject
> >>> RE: Street Trees
>
> >>> "Seeing Green pevents People from Being Mean" ...a study by Univ of
> >>> Illinois at the Urbana-Champaign, Human-Environment Research Laboratory  at
> >>> *www.herl.uiuc.edu*<http://www.herl.uiuc.edu/>
> >>> It is so sad that ignorance and disconnect of nature has turned society
> >>> into desolate concrete and pavement communities without the health benefits
> >>> of a green environment
>
> >>> Re-planting Urban street trees, the Cornell University has wonderful info
> >>> on planting bare root trees in neighborhoods with better survival than
> >>> traditional plantings, less cost, less labor and healthier plants. Nina
> >>> Bassik of Cornell is is a great resource  www.hort.*cornell*
> >>> .edu/department/faculty/bassuk/
>
> >>> Laurie Broccolo, CEO
> >>> Certified Nursery Professional
> >>> Broccolo Tree & Lawn Care
> >>> 2059 Brighton-Henrietta TL Rd.
> >>> Rochester, NY 14623
> >>> 585-424-4476 fax 585-292-0995
> >>>www.broccologroup.com
>
> >>> > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:09:37 -0700
> >>> > Subject: Street Trees
> >>> > From: 21stcenturyplowsh...@gmail.com
> >>> > To: 21stcentur...@googlegroups.com
>
> >>> > So many people have emailed me about planting street trees that it
> >>> > seems like it's really worth mentioning here now.
>
> >>> > I am in touch with Rasheed Hislop from the Parks Department, and will
> >>> > be getting the 411 soon about what it takes to get a street tree.
>
> >>> > But in the meantime, does anyone have practical experience with this?
> >>> > Every single person I talk to about street trees says an emphatic YES!
> >>> > to them, but then says that whenever you plant them, it turns into a
> >>> > great opportunity to get neighbors whining at you about leaves on
> >>> > their cars and whatnot. And I know that on my block, the current Block
> >>> > Association President is opposed to more trees, because he thinks that
> >>> > trees make crime happen.
>
> >>> > Anyone else have experience? Any ideas for working through these fears
> >>> > about litter and crime?
>
> --
> Deborah Fisher
> 21st Century Plowsharewww.21stcenturyplowshare.com
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Sam Pardo

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Apr 20, 2009, 11:27:16 PM4/20/09
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Tania,

I would also check the Trees NY site:

They probably have all the info and resources you're looking for. They even have a 12 hour course that certifies you to be a Citizen Tree Pruner so that when the Parks Dept is slow to care for the tree you are legally allowed to do it yourself.

--Sam

Sam Pardo

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May 4, 2009, 3:52:21 PM5/4/09
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Tania,

I just attended a fine little panel discussion at The New School as
part of NYC Wildflower week that several Parks Dept officials were at,
including Commissioner Benepe himself.

After the event was over I tracked down one of the parks employees
(apparently I heard/remember his name incorrectly because I can't seem
to find it on the parks website) and asked if there was a way to
address the lag in tree request and the actual planting that you and
several others (myself included) have experienced.

The suggestion this mystery parks employee made was to contact Jason
Schwartz, the Director of Partnerships for Parks:
http://www.itsmypark.org/partnerships_directory.html

If the parks department knows that your block association will be able
to care for the tree in it's first few years then this will probably
bump your request up on the priority lists. For now, under-served
communities with a higher incidence of air pollution associated health
problems like asthma, for example the South Bronx and Harlem, are got
dibs on the first 200k trees.

Also, if you want to just go ahead and buy your own trees and care for
them, then I think they'll definitely come by to knock a whole in the
ground to facilitate that.

Commissioner Benepe assured me, though, that within in 8 years all
vacant streets (save for those on top of subway lines or other
challenging conditions) will be lined with trees.

Just a little patience... I guess.

Give it a shot...
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:46 AM, <BWall...@saratogaassociates.com> wrote:
>
> > I am a Certified Arborist and landscape deisgner in NYC, and have
> > experience in planting street trees in all 5 boroughs. Interested parties
> > who wish to have street trees planted should contact 311 to begin the
> > process (it may seem crazy, but this really does work). Keep in mind that if
> > the planting location includes removal of sidewalk, a DOT permit will be
> > required. Also, Million Trees NYC is currently planting trees and will
> > continue again in the fall. You should check with them to see if trees are
> > planned for your neighborhood. I am happy to help in any way that I can.
>
> > *Brett H. Wallace, LEED AP*
> > Landscape Designer
> > Certified Arborist
>
> > SARATOGA ASSOCIATES
> > Landscape Architects, Architects, Engineers, and Planners, P.C.
> > 299 Broadway, Suite 900, New York, NY  10007
> > T 212 260 0250 ext. 1116, F 212 979 0758*
> >  **P *Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
> > This e-mail, including attachments, may contain information that is
> > confidential and it may be protected by the attorney/client or other
> > privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public
> > information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If
> > you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail, including
> > attachments, and notify me by return mail or e-mail. The unauthorized use,
> > dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including
> > attachments is prohibited and may be unlawful.
>
> >   *laurie broccolo <lrbrocc...@hotmail.com>*
> > Sent by: 21stcentur...@googlegroups.com
>
> > 04/20/2009 09:29 AM   Please respond to
> > 21stcentur...@googlegroups.com
>
> >    To
> > <21stcentur...@googlegroups.com>  cc
> >   Subject
> > RE: Street Trees
>
> > "Seeing Green pevents People from Being Mean" ...a study by Univ of
> > Illinois at the Urbana-Champaign, Human-Environment Research Laboratory  at
> > *www.herl.uiuc.edu*<http://www.herl.uiuc.edu/>
> > It is so sad that ignorance and disconnect of nature has turned society
> > into desolate concrete and pavement communities without the health benefits
> > of a green environment
>
> > Re-planting Urban street trees, the Cornell University has wonderful info
> > on planting bare root trees in neighborhoods with better survival than
> > traditional plantings, less cost, less labor and healthier plants. Nina
> > Bassik of Cornell is is a great resource  www.hort.*cornell*
> > .edu/department/faculty/bassuk/
>
> > Laurie Broccolo, CEO
> > Certified Nursery Professional
> > Broccolo Tree & Lawn Care
> > 2059 Brighton-Henrietta TL Rd.
> > Rochester, NY 14623
> > 585-424-4476 fax 585-292-0995
> >www.broccologroup.com
>
> > > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:09:37 -0700
> > > Subject: Street Trees
> > > From: 21stcenturyplowsh...@gmail.com
> > > To: 21stcentur...@googlegroups.com
>
> > > So many people have emailed me about planting street trees that it
> > > seems like it's really worth mentioning here now.
>
> > > I am in touch with Rasheed Hislop from the Parks Department, and will
> > > be getting the 411 soon about what it takes to get a street tree.
>
> > > But in the meantime, does anyone have practical experience with this?
> > > Every single person I talk to about street trees says an emphatic YES!
> > > to them, but then says that whenever you plant them, it turns into a
> > > great opportunity to get neighbors whining at you about leaves on
> > > their cars and whatnot. And I know that on my block, the current Block
> > > Association President is opposed to more trees, because he thinks that
> > > trees make crime happen.
>
> > > Anyone else have experience? Any ideas for working through these fears
> > > about litter and crime?
>
>
>

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May 5, 2009, 10:14:01 AM5/5/09
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Hey is it true that Adrian Benepe promised all vacant lots lined with
trees in 8 years?

Can you elaborate Sam?

That's interesting.

It also sounds like fundraising to buy trees might be a way to speed
things along.
Car wash anyone?

Sam Pardo

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I believe the plan is to have every single street in NYC lined with
trees (where possible, i.e. not over subways, hollow sidewalks, other
existing infrastructure) by 2017. Then from there, they will continue
re-foresting parks, school yards, etc, which they are already doing
now to some degree.

On May 5, 10:14 am, 21st Century Plowshare

Deborah

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May 6, 2009, 10:15:00 AM5/6/09
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That's fantastic!

Deanna Lee

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May 8, 2009, 4:29:35 PM5/8/09
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Hi all,

If you weren't already aware of this, there are Street Tree Bed
Gardening workshops at the Brooklyn Botanic Garden, coming up:
http://www.bbg.org/edu/adult/community.html

supereco

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May 8, 2009, 6:00:47 PM5/8/09
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I definitely recommend the class with Susan Fields. Great intro to Street Tree bed gardening. She's a great teacher.

Test

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May 9, 2009, 10:50:53 AM5/9/09
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This sounds like a great class, I think I will sign up myself!

On May 8, 6:00 pm, supereco <super...@mac.com> wrote:
> I definitely recommend the class with Susan Fields. Great intro to Street Tree bed gardening. She's a great teacher.
>
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