Pauline Black OBE

[RichT]

Big respect and congratulations to a leading light. Much deserved. 

[jason]

To be honest I would had more respect for her if she had turned it down.  I am all for people getting civic awards for they have achieved, but an accolade from the British Empire is outdated to say the least.

People who have said No to such awards over the years:

https://news.sky.com/story/knighthoods-cbes-obes-and-mbes-11-people-who-have-said-no-over-the-years-11593840  

[Jon Russell]

With you there Jason. I think Howard Gayle summed it up best:

Howard Gayle

Liverpool's first black footballer turned down an MBE in 2016.

He was nominated for his work with Show Racism A Red Card, but turned it down because "my ancestors would be turning in their graves after how empire and colonialism had enslaved them".

[Tim Wesley]

Black is super smart intelligent

I remember she fronted later episodes of  the Black on Black telly prog back in the 80's 

so, She will have Her reasons for accepting it.

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[jason]

I think Ken Loach summed it up perfectly:

 "It's all the things I think are despicable: patronage, deferring to the monarchy and the name of the British Empire, which is a monument of exploitation and conquest.

"I turned down the OBE because it's not a club you want to join when you look at the villains who've got it."

[jason]

Wasn't there once an album released titled 'Cruel Britannia'...............

[Peter Walsh]

Officer (of the Order) of the British Empire.

Could it be that all those lyrics and posturing were just something cool and right-on to sing about...?

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[jason]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0677185