resumen P2P WikiSprint

[Bernardo Gutiérrez]

Hola a todo el mundo! Viajo mañana y estaré fuera unas semanas. Antes, quiero dejar un pequeño resumen de este espectacular mailing que ha sobrepasado todas las expectativas. Mucha gente queriendo hacer cosas juntos, queriendo conectarse. Muchos escribiendo privadamente, para no hacer ruido en el mailing. Yorokobu (revista-site), por ejemplo, apoyará el proceso, entre muchos otros actores que no han respondido públicamente. 

Intuyo grandes cosas para 2103. Escribo en inglés para que Michel se incorpore con más comodidad en la conversación. 

-So, Albert and Javi Creus are still with the details of Michel´s trip to Barcelone. They suggest to do the Wikisprint on 19 th, because on 20th he has to travel to Paris. So, I suppose that the Michel´s tour to other Spanish cities in order to know P2P, commons oriented projects has to be before. It will depend on where Michel gets invitations-talks. Alberto Corsin almost confirmed Madrid´s trip. 

-At the moment, we have 19 cities confirmed (and much more coming): Spain (Madrid, Barcelone, Sevilla, Málaga, Salamanca, Palma de Mallorca, Bilbao), México (Ciudad de México, San Cristobal de las Casas), El Salvador (San Salvador), Panamá (Ciudad de Panamá), Venezuela (Caracas), Ecuador (Quito), Perú (Lima and others), Bolivia (Cochabamba), Uruguay (Montevideo), Paraguay (Asunción) and Argentine (Buenos Aires). Galicia (Spain), with a huge commons history, will join. Colombia will surely join, it is one most active and we have many contacts. Chile and Costa Rica will surely join. Here you have the PAD with the cities: 

http://wikisprintp2pspanish.titanpad.com/1

-As you know, P2P Foundation has a fantastic wiki, one of the most complete around P2P and commons in the word. Enrich this wiki with these WikisprintP2Pinspanish process will be very important. In Brazil, it is working. The idea is not doing just one day ride, but to start a process http://p2pfoundation.net/Brazil_P2P_WikiSprint There will be more days. Besides the WIki, there is a map (Ushahadi) https://wikisprint.crowdmap.com/main

In Greece, they are using Meipi for this wonderfull Mapping the commons (hi, Alfonso&Friends!)

Here you can help a lot. In this mailing there are one of the best people I know in cartographies, maps, tools, mobile, geolocalitation, grafos, networks. P2P works hard, but by the own, usually with not so manu supports. Any help in the process would be fine. I think we can think together differente thinks, maps with differente levels of information as (http://nyc.opencityagora.appspot.com/Agora.html) or Documentate peers connecting as the same time (http://moebio.com/datavisnetwork/). Connect, do and communicate at the same time. In Brazil there are no newspapers talking about this. We have to get this point solved.  

-Anyway, I think that a Wikisprint is the beginning of a process, a bigger bigger thing. A play tank of makers, a think tank of thinkers. If you see the Criteria for inclusion (http://p2pfoundation.net/Brazil_P2P_WikiSprint) you will realize that it is quite open. There are fantastic coletive, for examples, in Chiapas working with Criteria and dont use tech. So, P2P is more than tech. It is about people connected, commoms oriented ways. 

-I see that we, as a whole, not only talking about P2P Wikisprint, have some challenges: 

1) Traslate P2P-commons world to society. Not everybody knows what (WTF) is this. It is a big challenge. And if we have a good Storytelling process, we will get it. 

2) Legitimize these new ways of doing things. Governments and market have to understand that this is the way, the new way, that it will be mainstream in economy, culture, tech. 

3) Connect peers. The most important. Many people writing, doing things around all this stuff. But not so many connections. Spanish territories are, probably, the most connected, many projects in several directions. But it is not enough. But after this process, I see a new level on connections, thinkers-makers together, hackers from Madrid working with indigenous people from Bolivia, Mexican activists together with open data from uruguay, Barcelone with Chiapas commons experiences.. etc Connect with other languages (english, of course, but also portuguese, french, german) is necessary. 

So this is the most important, I think. 

We can think about making a mailing group or whatever you want

Best for 2013, I am travelling tomorrow to África and will be quite off. Will keep an eye on this feed

Bernardo

El 13 de diciembre de 2012 13:26, Mauricio Delfin <del...@culturaperu.org> escribió:

¡Saludos a todos y todas! — Nosotros desde Culturaperu.org estaríamos encantados de participar en este esfuerzo. Quedamos pendientes entonces de mayor información.  

Ahora estamos un poco copados con el #BalanceCultura que se desarrolla este mes en 11 ciudades en red, pero luego de esto nos re-conectamos y ponemos al día. 

Saludos!

Mauricio Delfin

Director

@culturaperu

2012/12/13 Jorge Toledo <j...@ecosistemaurbano.com>

Hola a todos

¡Vaya locura P2P se ha montado aquí! Me encantan estos experimentos atolondrados (en el buen sentido de la palabra) y ambiciosos (ídem), son una oportunidad inigualable para conocer, experimentar, enlazar y descubrir.

Gracias Bernardo por hacer de conector. No puedo hablar de momento por Ecosistema Urbano, pero al menos yo a título personal me apunto con los de Madrid.

¡Saludos!

Jorge

El 12 de diciembre de 2012 16:30, Todo por la praxis <todopor...@gmail.com> escribió:

Gracias Bernardo, por la invitación y encantados con la iniciativa. Estamos atentos y nos sumamos a los colectivos de Madrid para coordinar algo por aquí.

Creo que se debería contar por aquí también con la red de arquitecturas colectivas en el que hay mucha gente interesada

http://arquitecturascolectivas.net/

Os proponemos también contar con arquitectura expandida en Bogota y con Juan carlos Leon que trabaja en CAC en Quito

Juan Carlos León <juanc...@gmail.com>

Abrazos TXP

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