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Weeks 2—3 research and journal: reviews of Are we Rome? by Murphy,
creating annotated APA style references, using the online message
board group for the course, and discussing ideas with the class
Please work through this activity designed to assist students’
understanding Murphy's text and preparing essay 1.
1) review pages 7, "Obviously, the emergence of America…" (or search
online at http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?textType=excerpt&titleNumber=694012)
to page 10, "…erosion of public spirit," Murphy's review of recent
literature comparing Rome and the USA;
2) search online for the following terms: book review Cullen Murphy
Are we Rome?
3) select one of the many reviews, check any previous posts below and
choose a review not already selected by another student, read over the
review and decide upon…
a) one point you like about the review or the book, by your analysis
of the review;
b) one point you don't like about the review or the book, by your
analysis of the review;
c) one point about the book that you don't understand from the review
and would like to check in the book or research for more information
on the topic;
4) check APA style for in-text citation and references page (of many
sites available, one is http://www.dianahacker.com/resdoc/ ); see also
the following site on annotated references (http://
www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill28.htm). Note that
the examples on the syllabus are organized as in-text citations in APA
style; no References page is required for e1—cite your source in ¶3 in
the same style;
5) open the word processor and prepare an APA style reference for the
review followed by your notes from 3a, b, and c above; here’s an
example based on the reading for e1.1:
Hanson, V. 2007, May 28. Pop romanizing. National Review. [note: the
magazine title should be in italics, but italics don’t appear on the
message board]
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_9_59/ai_n19311325/prin
a) one thing I like about this article is that all the way through
Hanson bitterly complains about Murphy’s book and scholarship, and at
least hints at discounting Murphy’s patriotism—until the very end;
b) one thing I don’t like about this article is that Hanson tries to
discount Murphy’s whole book by naming off all sorts of historical
Roman figures and claiming Murphy doesn’t really know much about Rome
when Murphy does discuss Rome quite extensively, but even more
importantly, Murphy didn’t write this book for Roman historians but
for the general public;
c) one thing I’d like to know more about is Roman history; Hanson
obviously knows plenty of names I don’t and would like to research more
—by the way, as stated in class, no one needs to know anything about
Roman history to take this class; it’s English 101, and that means
reading and writing, thesis and argument, research and composition,
documentation and presentation, but we have to read and write about
something, and a couple times each year I change the books around a
different theme; this time it’s comparing Rome and the USA; students
who read Julius Caesar in high school will have a step ahead, but in
the summer and so far this fall, it doesn’t seem as if that’s as
common an experience today as in years past;
6) join this Google group—for nickname, please use first name and
first initial of last name, for example, Cullen M, George S, or
William S—and post your annotated reference as a reply to this message
(it would be good for everyone to join and use the board, but in class
this week, one person can join and post for the 2 or 3 classmates);
7) post your ideas to the group;
8) read over the other students’ posts and reply to at least one.
creating annotated APA style references, using the online message
board group for the course, and discussing ideas with the class
Please work through this activity designed to assist students’
understanding Murphy's text and preparing essay 1.
1) review pages 7, "Obviously, the emergence of America…" (or search
online at http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?textType=excerpt&titleNumber=694012)
to page 10, "…erosion of public spirit," Murphy's review of recent
literature comparing Rome and the USA;
2) search online for the following terms: book review Cullen Murphy
Are we Rome?
3) select one of the many reviews, check any previous posts below and
choose a review not already selected by another student, read over the
review and decide upon…
a) one point you like about the review or the book, by your analysis
of the review;
b) one point you don't like about the review or the book, by your
analysis of the review;
c) one point about the book that you don't understand from the review
and would like to check in the book or research for more information
on the topic;
4) check APA style for in-text citation and references page (of many
sites available, one is http://www.dianahacker.com/resdoc/ ); see also
the following site on annotated references (http://
www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill28.htm). Note that
the examples on the syllabus are organized as in-text citations in APA
style; no References page is required for e1—cite your source in ¶3 in
the same style;
5) open the word processor and prepare an APA style reference for the
review followed by your notes from 3a, b, and c above; here’s an
example based on the reading for e1.1:
Hanson, V. 2007, May 28. Pop romanizing. National Review. [note: the
magazine title should be in italics, but italics don’t appear on the
message board]
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_9_59/ai_n19311325/prin
a) one thing I like about this article is that all the way through
Hanson bitterly complains about Murphy’s book and scholarship, and at
least hints at discounting Murphy’s patriotism—until the very end;
b) one thing I don’t like about this article is that Hanson tries to
discount Murphy’s whole book by naming off all sorts of historical
Roman figures and claiming Murphy doesn’t really know much about Rome
when Murphy does discuss Rome quite extensively, but even more
importantly, Murphy didn’t write this book for Roman historians but
for the general public;
c) one thing I’d like to know more about is Roman history; Hanson
obviously knows plenty of names I don’t and would like to research more
—by the way, as stated in class, no one needs to know anything about
Roman history to take this class; it’s English 101, and that means
reading and writing, thesis and argument, research and composition,
documentation and presentation, but we have to read and write about
something, and a couple times each year I change the books around a
different theme; this time it’s comparing Rome and the USA; students
who read Julius Caesar in high school will have a step ahead, but in
the summer and so far this fall, it doesn’t seem as if that’s as
common an experience today as in years past;
6) join this Google group—for nickname, please use first name and
first initial of last name, for example, Cullen M, George S, or
William S—and post your annotated reference as a reply to this message
(it would be good for everyone to join and use the board, but in class
this week, one person can join and post for the 2 or 3 classmates);
7) post your ideas to the group;
8) read over the other students’ posts and reply to at least one.
Dianne C
Sep 16, 2008, 9:18:41 PM9/16/08
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Isaacson, Walter. 2007, May 13. The Empire in the Mirror [Review of
the book Are We Rome?]. The New York Times. [Please note: that both
the title “Are We Rome?,” as well as “The New York Times” should be
italicized]
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/13/books/review/Isaacson-t.html?_r=1&n=Top%2FFeatures%2FBooks%2FBook%20Reviews&oref=slogin
a) I enjoyed Isaacson’s article due to its multi-faceted qualities.
His opinion on Murphy’s book is not merely one-sided, but provides
both positive and negative accounts. Though Isaacson finds Murphy’s
arguments not entirely convincing, he is quick to state that, if
nothing else, they are “thought-provoking.”
b) An issue I had with Isaacson’s review is his choice to critique
Murphy’s writing style. Referring to the book as “erudite” and
Murphy’s observations as “aloof” seems a bit condescending to both the
author as well as the audience… if not with a hint of irony,
considering the ostentatious absurdity of his own chosen diction and
the resulting lagging connection he achieves because of it.
c) An interesting point from the book identified by Isaacson is the
information regarding the declining rate of the educated elite in
taking up arms. The fact that the numbers have reduced is not what
shocked me, but rather, the actual numbers. To go from 450/750 to a
staggering 8/1,100 is quite a feat, and I am very much interested in
pursuing more information.
On Sep 13, 7:39 am, o <eng101l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Weeks 2—3 research and journal: reviews of Are we Rome? by Murphy,
> creating annotated APA style references, using the online message
> board group for the course, and discussing ideas with the class
>
> Please work through this activity designed to assist students’
> understanding Murphy's text and preparing essay 1.
>
> 1) review pages 7, "Obviously, the emergence of America…" (or search
> online athttp://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?textType=...)
> the following site on annotated references (http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill28.htm). Note that
the book Are We Rome?]. The New York Times. [Please note: that both
the title “Are We Rome?,” as well as “The New York Times” should be
italicized]
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/13/books/review/Isaacson-t.html?_r=1&n=Top%2FFeatures%2FBooks%2FBook%20Reviews&oref=slogin
a) I enjoyed Isaacson’s article due to its multi-faceted qualities.
His opinion on Murphy’s book is not merely one-sided, but provides
both positive and negative accounts. Though Isaacson finds Murphy’s
arguments not entirely convincing, he is quick to state that, if
nothing else, they are “thought-provoking.”
b) An issue I had with Isaacson’s review is his choice to critique
Murphy’s writing style. Referring to the book as “erudite” and
Murphy’s observations as “aloof” seems a bit condescending to both the
author as well as the audience… if not with a hint of irony,
considering the ostentatious absurdity of his own chosen diction and
the resulting lagging connection he achieves because of it.
c) An interesting point from the book identified by Isaacson is the
information regarding the declining rate of the educated elite in
taking up arms. The fact that the numbers have reduced is not what
shocked me, but rather, the actual numbers. To go from 450/750 to a
staggering 8/1,100 is quite a feat, and I am very much interested in
pursuing more information.
On Sep 13, 7:39 am, o <eng101l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Weeks 2—3 research and journal: reviews of Are we Rome? by Murphy,
> creating annotated APA style references, using the online message
> board group for the course, and discussing ideas with the class
>
> Please work through this activity designed to assist students’
> understanding Murphy's text and preparing essay 1.
>
> 1) review pages 7, "Obviously, the emergence of America…" (or search
> to page 10, "…erosion of public spirit," Murphy's review of recent
> literature comparing Rome and the USA;
>
> 2) search online for the following terms: book review Cullen Murphy
> Are we Rome?
>
> 3) select one of the many reviews, check any previous posts below and
> choose a review not already selected by another student, read over the
> review and decide upon…
>
> a) one point you like about the review or the book, by your analysis
> of the review;
>
> b) one point you don't like about the review or the book, by your
> analysis of the review;
>
> c) one point about the book that you don't understand from the review
> and would like to check in the book or research for more information
> on the topic;
>
> 4) check APA style for in-text citation and references page (of many
> sites available, one ishttp://www.dianahacker.com/resdoc/); see also
> literature comparing Rome and the USA;
>
> 2) search online for the following terms: book review Cullen Murphy
> Are we Rome?
>
> 3) select one of the many reviews, check any previous posts below and
> choose a review not already selected by another student, read over the
> review and decide upon…
>
> a) one point you like about the review or the book, by your analysis
> of the review;
>
> b) one point you don't like about the review or the book, by your
> analysis of the review;
>
> c) one point about the book that you don't understand from the review
> and would like to check in the book or research for more information
> on the topic;
>
> 4) check APA style for in-text citation and references page (of many
> the following site on annotated references (http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill28.htm). Note that
o
Sep 16, 2008, 10:38:05 PM9/16/08
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DC: nice work, and thanks for going first.
carlacuellar
Sep 23, 2008, 5:56:04 PM9/23/08
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Weeks 2-3 Research and Journal:
Joseph S. Nye reviewed Are We Rome?: The Fall of an Empire and the
Fate of America by Cullen Murphy in “All Hail America? Book Review
of Are We Rome? The Fall of an Empire and the Fate of America” for the
Washington Post in 2007. This review was very pleasant to read, Nye
gave Murphy’s book (the prologue has been all I have read so far) more
understanding.
America’s probable future has been predicted to be much like that of
the Roman Empire; Nye cites David Gelernter and Anne-Marie Slaughter
in his review. I agreed with Nye when he stated, “The centrality of
values in our national myths has long led to oscillation between
realism and idealism in our foreign policies”, we go from proposition
to a new one and back again, from bill to bill making people affected
undergo a rollercoaster ride. This has made it difficult and much
tiresome to listen to the “new” ideas of the soon to become
presidents.
The very first comment made by Nye is that “Psychologists say that we
tend to become the stories we tell about ourselves”, I have to say
that I hope this I not true if so then America is sure to fall. The
U.S. is condemned by this where Murphy’s attempt is to have us learn
from others’ mistakes and not fall as Rome did. We still have the
possibility to correct our faults.
Nye goes on to agree with Gelertner when he says, “most nations are
based on no principles; they are based instead on shared descent or
ethnicity. The United States is different. It has religion because it
must have. Without one it is a band of displaced persons and little
more”, I have always thought that all nations have a religion behind
it. This I am not sure of and would like to research deeper, I don’t
know if this is addressed in Murphy’s book but am very curious about
this statement.
Reference:
Nye, J.S. (July 1, 2007). All Hail America? Book Review of Are We
Rome? The Fall of an Empireand the Fare of America by Cullen Murphy.
The Washington Post, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/29/AR2007062901893.
html
Joseph S. Nye reviewed Are We Rome?: The Fall of an Empire and the
Fate of America by Cullen Murphy in “All Hail America? Book Review
of Are We Rome? The Fall of an Empire and the Fate of America” for the
Washington Post in 2007. This review was very pleasant to read, Nye
gave Murphy’s book (the prologue has been all I have read so far) more
understanding.
America’s probable future has been predicted to be much like that of
the Roman Empire; Nye cites David Gelernter and Anne-Marie Slaughter
in his review. I agreed with Nye when he stated, “The centrality of
values in our national myths has long led to oscillation between
realism and idealism in our foreign policies”, we go from proposition
to a new one and back again, from bill to bill making people affected
undergo a rollercoaster ride. This has made it difficult and much
tiresome to listen to the “new” ideas of the soon to become
presidents.
The very first comment made by Nye is that “Psychologists say that we
tend to become the stories we tell about ourselves”, I have to say
that I hope this I not true if so then America is sure to fall. The
U.S. is condemned by this where Murphy’s attempt is to have us learn
from others’ mistakes and not fall as Rome did. We still have the
possibility to correct our faults.
Nye goes on to agree with Gelertner when he says, “most nations are
based on no principles; they are based instead on shared descent or
ethnicity. The United States is different. It has religion because it
must have. Without one it is a band of displaced persons and little
more”, I have always thought that all nations have a religion behind
it. This I am not sure of and would like to research deeper, I don’t
know if this is addressed in Murphy’s book but am very curious about
this statement.
Reference:
Nye, J.S. (July 1, 2007). All Hail America? Book Review of Are We
Rome? The Fall of an Empireand the Fare of America by Cullen Murphy.
The Washington Post, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/29/AR2007062901893.
html
HildaP
Sep 29, 2008, 6:26:20 PM9/29/08
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Dianne,
I agree with point C, I too was greatly surprised by the dramatic
decline in Princeton graduates who served in 2004 as opposed to 1956.
On Sep 16, 6:18 pm, Dianne C <camy.bha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Isaacson, Walter. 2007, May 13. The Empire in the Mirror [Review of
> the book Are We Rome?]. The New York Times. [Please note: that both
> the title “Are We Rome?,” as well as “The New York Times” should be
> italicized]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/13/books/review/Isaacson-t.html?_r=1&n...
I agree with point C, I too was greatly surprised by the dramatic
decline in Princeton graduates who served in 2004 as opposed to 1956.
On Sep 16, 6:18 pm, Dianne C <camy.bha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Isaacson, Walter. 2007, May 13. The Empire in the Mirror [Review of
> the book Are We Rome?]. The New York Times. [Please note: that both
> the title “Are We Rome?,” as well as “The New York Times” should be
HildaP
Sep 29, 2008, 7:57:51 PM9/29/08
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Plotinsky, Benjamin A. 2007, July 24. Do We Do As the Romans Did?.
City Journal. http://www.city-journal.org/html/rev2007-07-24bp.html
a. Although Plotinsky dejects many of Murphy’s points as either, not
completely similar to what he compares them to or just plain wrong, he
offers reasons for his objections. I thought that was better than
outright disagreeing with Murphy and not offering valid reasons as to
why.
b. I didn’t like Plotinsky’s declaration in the second paragraph that,
“’most people,’ it seems likelier, are aware of just three things
about the Roman Empire… (Para. 2)”. It’s extremely condescending of
him to say this and being apart of this “neophyte” group makes me feel
unnecessarily belittled.
c. Although I’d like to read Murphy’s entire book in detail, perhaps a
few times to fully understand his suggestions, there was a point
brought about by Plotinsky that I’d really like to research. Plotinsky
writes that Murphy advocates “increased benefits for illegal aliens
(Para 8)”. I want to know more about his opinion on that matter and
exactly which benefits he would like to extend to illegal immigrants.
> the following site on annotated references (http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill28.htm). Note that
City Journal. http://www.city-journal.org/html/rev2007-07-24bp.html
a. Although Plotinsky dejects many of Murphy’s points as either, not
completely similar to what he compares them to or just plain wrong, he
offers reasons for his objections. I thought that was better than
outright disagreeing with Murphy and not offering valid reasons as to
why.
b. I didn’t like Plotinsky’s declaration in the second paragraph that,
“’most people,’ it seems likelier, are aware of just three things
about the Roman Empire… (Para. 2)”. It’s extremely condescending of
him to say this and being apart of this “neophyte” group makes me feel
unnecessarily belittled.
c. Although I’d like to read Murphy’s entire book in detail, perhaps a
few times to fully understand his suggestions, there was a point
brought about by Plotinsky that I’d really like to research. Plotinsky
writes that Murphy advocates “increased benefits for illegal aliens
(Para 8)”. I want to know more about his opinion on that matter and
exactly which benefits he would like to extend to illegal immigrants.
> Weeks 2—3 research and journal: reviews of Are we Rome? by Murphy,
> creating annotated APA style references, using the online message
> board group for the course, and discussing ideas with the class
>
> Please work through this activity designed to assist students’
> understanding Murphy's text and preparing essay 1.
>
> 1) review pages 7, "Obviously, the emergence of America…" (or search
> online athttp://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?textType=...)
> creating annotated APA style references, using the online message
> board group for the course, and discussing ideas with the class
>
> Please work through this activity designed to assist students’
> understanding Murphy's text and preparing essay 1.
>
> 1) review pages 7, "Obviously, the emergence of America…" (or search
> to page 10, "…erosion of public spirit," Murphy's review of recent
> literature comparing Rome and the USA;
>
> 2) search online for the following terms: book review Cullen Murphy
> Are we Rome?
>
> 3) select one of the many reviews, check any previous posts below and
> choose a review not already selected by another student, read over the
> review and decide upon…
>
> a) one point you like about the review or the book, by your analysis
> of the review;
>
> b) one point you don't like about the review or the book, by your
> analysis of the review;
>
> c) one point about the book that you don't understand from the review
> and would like to check in the book or research for more information
> on the topic;
>
> 4) check APA style for in-text citation and references page (of many
> sites available, one ishttp://www.dianahacker.com/resdoc/); see also
> literature comparing Rome and the USA;
>
> 2) search online for the following terms: book review Cullen Murphy
> Are we Rome?
>
> 3) select one of the many reviews, check any previous posts below and
> choose a review not already selected by another student, read over the
> review and decide upon…
>
> a) one point you like about the review or the book, by your analysis
> of the review;
>
> b) one point you don't like about the review or the book, by your
> analysis of the review;
>
> c) one point about the book that you don't understand from the review
> and would like to check in the book or research for more information
> on the topic;
>
> 4) check APA style for in-text citation and references page (of many
> the following site on annotated references (http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/research/skill28.htm). Note that
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