https://groups.google.com/d/forum/sci.mathsci.mathMathematical discussions and pursuits.Google GroupsWM2017-02-26T10:42:32Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/7ASlsqSP-XsRe: The impossibility of a supertask on the time axis shows ...Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2017 12:32:15 UTC+1 schrieb j4n bur53: > So why should 9, 18, 27, ... have an empty set limit, and > 1, 2, 3, ... have a non-empty set limit? What is this set limit? See p. 55f of https://www.hs-augsburg.de/~mueckenh/Transfinity/Transfinity/pdf for set limit and p. 252Pentcho Valev2017-02-26T10:38:32Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/73h9eYxuOEMRe: Frank Wilczek's Perpetual MotionViolations of the second law of thermodynamics would be regarded as commonplace if it were not for misleading education: http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/py105/Heatengines.html "A necessary component of a heat engine, then, is that two temperatures are involved. At one stage the system is heated,Archimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T10:13:43Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/z8XtER3r_8QIn New Math trigonometry, all angles are Rationals and half the sine values are RationalsIn Old Math trig they had only the Rationals of .5 and 1 (0 is irrational). And many in Old Math puzzled over this. When they should not have puzzled because it stands to reason that as they walk down the x axis, every Rational number they encounter between 0 and 1 is a cosine value and hence aPentcho Valev2017-02-26T10:07:59Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/DojBfhaL4NYRe: LIGO's Absolute Secrecy: Why?Natalia Kiriushcheva has been silent for a year - perhaps the Empire has stricken back. This is from February 2016: "I think that the majority of authors of numerous articles about observation of gravitational waves ("Einstein Was Right!") did not read Einstein's 1916 paper or aware about hisArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T09:37:22Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/weaGqG5cK_cRe: disproofs-- cosine derivative is tangent; derivative of sine is cotangent (2)Newsgroups: sci.math Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:16:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: How could Old Math get it so wrong on Trig?? From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 09:16:47 +0000 How could Old Math get it so wrong on Trig?? Archimedes Plutonium is anArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T08:54:20Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/aZgyW6jxKbkMalus law anomaly in physics--deviation of 1 to 5 degrees-- cause is Old Math trigOld Math trig is off by at least 3 degrees. In Old Math they thought 30 degrees was .5 when actually it is 27 degrees and 63 degrees not 60 was .5 for sine and cosine. So a anomaly of 5degrees is dispelled when using 3+3 degrees as 6 degree margin of error. Nothing wrong with the physicsRoss A. Finlayson2017-02-26T08:13:10Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/CfEuPYjURXgRe: Wallis, Leibniz, Bernoulli, and ongoing confusionOn Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 4:56:50 AM UTC-8, eckard.b...@arcor.de wrote: > Am Freitag, 24. Februar 2017 20:51:34 UTC+1 schrieb Ross A. Finlayson: > > > > > > Euclid's point is sufficiently defined as something that has no parts. It is literally "atomos" which means indivisible aliasabu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-26T07:51:51Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/73h9eYxuOEMRe: Frank Wilczek's Perpetual Motionthat is just sylli > But the rising dielectric liquid can do useful work, e.g. by lifting some floating weight, and the crucial question is: At the expense of what energy is the work done? Since, by switching the field on and off, we do no work on the system, the energy supplier can only be theabu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-26T07:49:36Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Pc1JH5IIw9ARe: am told that Tim Skirvin of Univ Illinois C-U is causing this rash of forgery Jan Burse in sci.mathare you reffering to reposting your stuff under his own name e.g? or, when you dicth your item, after I have replied to it?abu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-26T07:47:35Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Dzwk5r48ePcRe: Digits in zero.only in base_one is it really of import (leading zeroes)abu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-26T07:46:02Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/d-FioPyiu0olike, it makes any difference, at allcompasses do not lie; they just lay there, if you cannot bother with constructive pr00f; that is a synthetic method of pr00f > What gets confusing is what right triangle represents cosine or sine for x=.1 and other x axis points. > > APabu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-26T07:37:36Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/DkM1pMTyW8Ehath screwed up trigonometry etc. etc. etc. etc.polarization is a spatial property of waves, as has been used in cellphony for decades; viz tetrahedronometry > Polarized light? Is your engineering or science mistake due to the fact that Old Math has screwed up trigonometry > > Now please do not hold me to this for it is just a conjectureArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T07:08:41Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/9Q_nERvi9CEContradiction at heart of Old Math Trigonometry-- right triangle whose side is larger than hypotenuseAlright i pointed out Old Math Trig contradiction a long time ago. Given definition of sine as opposite divided by hypotenuse forces sine to be a semicircle wave from x=0 to 2 with center at (1,0) But now mathematicians are obnoxiously stubborn to admit mistakes, so let us show them theirArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T06:10:48Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/JAwU0qErs90Area of 63-63-54 equals 90-45-45Sorry, Old Math Trig led me astray here again. Apparently the maximum area triangle given any square is two triangles, the 90-45-45 along with the 63-63-54. This is of huge surprise since Old Math Trig would have 60degrees connected to .5, not 63 with 27 degrees. APRoss A. Finlayson2017-02-26T05:18:49Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/E2HHYNYqWiIRe: I was the first in human history to prove the mean value theorem constructively and conclusively.even functions as simple as y=x or y=x^3. His wonky definition of a derivative blows up in these cases. But rather than fix his definition, JG decrees that their derivatives must be, ahem... "undefined." What a moron. > > > Dan It's not even a derivative, i.e. as a function, as computed fromDan Christensen2017-02-26T04:54:03Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/E2HHYNYqWiIRe: I was the first in human history to prove the mean value theorem constructively and conclusively.Using his Wacky New CalClueless, JG cannot determine the derivative of even functions as simple as y=x or y=x^3. His wonky definition of a derivative blows up in these cases. But rather than fix his definition, JG decrees that their derivatives must be, ahem... "undefined." What a moron. DanDan Christensen2017-02-26T04:40:19Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/C5vDcey31DURe: Watch my video to find out why the trigonometric functions can only take radians as input (Featuring Prof. Jackie Huizenga)radians as input. > Jeez, you're stupid, Troll Boy. Please note: sin(180 degrees) = sin(pi radians) = 0 Deal with it. DanWilliam Elliot2017-02-26T04:38:05Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/KrSR3CktPp0An ordered approached to the integersLet K be a nonempty set, S:K -> K a function and < subset KxK, a binary relation. Define a <= b as a < b or a = b. Restrict lower case variables to K and upper case variables to P(K). Assume biduction, also known as symmetric induction: for all nonempty A, if for all x in A, (x in AArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T03:32:49Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/1fSxqMkyNKYFalling-apart of Old Math trig in Faraday law of physicsNow the error of Old Math trig is an error of 3 degrees at minimum. Small enough to be not recognized by those who use Old Math trig. A 3 degree error by using Old Math would pass as acceptable, as a bolt and nut machined with 3 degree error is not snug, a bit loose but acceptable. AcceptableBill2017-02-26T03:21:52Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Puwrm1dAaLIRe: f(f(x)) = f(x)? any study on this kind of functionAs I just stated in another post, f(y)=y for all y in the range of f.Bill2017-02-26T03:19:51Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Puwrm1dAaLIRe: f(f(x)) = f(x)? any study on this kind of functionwrote: >> gec...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I recently encountered some functions that follows f(f(x))= f(x), which means >>> if use the results of function f on x as the input of f again, the new output >>> is almost the same as f(x). x is a vector and f(x) is also a vector, in the >>> sameanti...@math.uni.wroc.pl2017-02-26T02:57:23Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/ad_V6v_QWUwRe: Why are many equations not solvable by applying only Elementary functions?functions? > > Elementary functions: Wikipedia - Elementary function: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_function > > Let us discuss this on the example equation x + e^x = 0, x real. > How exactly causes algebraic independency of x and e^x in x + e^x = 0 > non-solvability of thisArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T02:38:53Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Rg6Q_JmLdnoAnother Old Math trig failure-- neutrino faster than speed of lightNow some years back was a report out of Italy of neutrinos faster than speed of light. Which convulsed the entire physics community. It is intensely investigated and blamed on faulty electrical circuits. Now if you have been in physics or engineering for any length of time you would know thatArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T02:25:16Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/rkXREJjf9OAWhere Old Math trig fails-- EurotunnelIt is said the Eurotunnel is the 8th wonder of the world. I am looking to see whether the French side and English side met exactly at the middle perfectly and whether Old Math trig was used, for it it was used they would have been off by at least 3 degrees-- in in other words-- missed eachArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-26T00:01:46Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/JAwU0qErs90periodic triangle functions Re: A 60-60-60 triangle based trigAlright, I talked last night about a Trigonometry based on a triangle instead of quartercircles. The triangle would have to be 60-60-60 in order to remain a function; cannot have vertical lines. Now, what range of traingles can be thus periodic functions? 62-60-58?? What range. Now, in Old MathArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-25T23:52:01Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Pc1JH5IIw9Aam told that Tim Skirvin of Univ Illinois C-U is causing this rash of forgery Jan Burse in sci.mathIs causing or refusing to delete this rash of forgery in sci.math Is it true Tim?? X-Received: by 10.157.4.41 with SMTP id 38mr2630313otc.42.1488025986016; Sat, 25 Feb 2017 04:33:06 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: sci....@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.131.34 with SMTP id f34ls2446996IV2017-02-25T23:50:37Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/ad_V6v_QWUwRe: Why are many equations not solvable by applying only Elementary functions?"Peter Percival" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:o8t4hj$vm1$3@news.albasani.net... >>> why are many equations not solvable by applying only Elementary >>> functions? >>> Elementary functions: Wikipedia - Elementary function: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_function >>> Let us discussIV2017-02-25T23:43:08Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/ad_V6v_QWUwRe: Why are many equations not solvable by applying only Elementary functions?"Pubkeybreaker" wrote in Newsbeitrag news:509d88ab-0c93-49cc-817e-16026e52b2c5@googlegroups.com... >> why are many equations not solvable by applying only Elementary >> functions? >> Elementary functions: Wikipedia - Elementary function: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_function >>Archimedes Plutonium2017-02-25T23:38:43Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/SzyhRIIJgLQHow I found my .3 error in the derivatives of sine and cosine, which are cotangent and tangent respectivelyNewsgroups: sci.math Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:16:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: How could Old Math get it so wrong on Trig?? From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 09:16:47 +0000 How could Old Math get it so wrong on Trig?? And how could it havePeter Percival2017-02-25T23:38:32Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/ad_V6v_QWUwRe: Why are many equations not solvable by applying only Elementary functions?Are you seeking a proof that Lambert's W isn't an elementary function? -- Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain to me what you really mean. I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is to be found out. -- Oscar Wilde, Lady Windermere's FanPeter Percival2017-02-25T23:36:30Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Dzwk5r48ePcRe: Digits in zero.a Java int, computes the number of digits in its representation, what should it return for the argument 0? > One? -- Do, as a concession to my poor wits, Lord Darlington, just explain to me what you really mean. I think I had better not, Duchess. Nowadays to be intelligible is to be foundArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-25T23:36:29Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/MU2JrkWYYGYRe: Almost all of old math trigonometry was in error, save for a few itemswrote: > > Newsgroups: sci.math > > Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:16:47 -0800 (PST) > > > > Subject: How could Old Math get it so wrong on Trig?? > > From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> > > Injection-Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 09:16:47 +0000 > > > > > > How could Old Math get it soJohn Gabriel2017-02-25T23:28:17Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/obQbXOTVJbcRe: The word Quora almost sounds like the Greek word κουραδα which means "turd".On Saturday, 25 February 2017 14:13:06 UTC-6, bassam king karzeddin wrote: > I do not think that the Ancient Greeks were intelligent beyond belief, they indeed missed many things (for sure), at least (for me) , where my theorems stated here in sci.math and elsewhere in Quora, or MSE, were notArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-25T23:25:35Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/d-FioPyiu0oRe: correcting the f00l, like it makes any difference, at allNewsgroups: sci.math Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:19:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Found the .3 error in sine derivative = cotangent; cosine derivative = tangent From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 23:19:35 +0000 Found the .3 error in sineherrman...@gmail.com2017-02-25T23:22:23Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Dzwk5r48ePcDigits in zero.How many digits does the integer zero (0) have? More specifically, if someone is assigned to write a program that, given a Java int, computes the number of digits in its representation, what should it return for the argument 0?herrman...@gmail.com2017-02-25T23:19:57Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/8Ry_zZZ-Hm4Re: Students: I will fail you if you tell me that the derivative of sin(x) is not always cos(x)!> Strictly speaking, it's true, depending on your units. Here is a question > for you: if you express x in degrees instead of radians (as is the standard > in calculus), then what is the derivative of sin(x) ? sind(x) = sin((pi/180)x) d sind(x)/dx = (pi/180) cosd(x) There are a fewArchimedes Plutonium2017-02-25T23:19:56Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/DkM1pMTyW8ERe: Is your engineering or science mistake due to the fact that Old Math has screwed up trigonometryNewsgroups: sci.math Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 19:52:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: The integral, true integral of sine and cosine functions is Y= .78n +C From: Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium....@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 03:52:28 +0000 The integral, true integral of sine andabu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-25T23:13:32Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/CfEuPYjURXgRe: book fourteen (at least base_5)Frank wrote a, what? > ah, nice ... t00 bad about beauxeaux synonyme -- and > their suppposed knowledge of Greekabu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-25T23:12:26Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/obQbXOTVJbcberd sounds like nirdit is a nice question, how to quantumfy the unit-area sphere; so, just pretend that you're a camel & be happyPubkeybreaker2017-02-25T23:03:43Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/ad_V6v_QWUwRe: Why are many equations not solvable by applying only Elementary functions?functions? > Elementary functions: Wikipedia - Elementary function: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_function > > Let us discuss this on the example equation x + e^x = 0, x real. > > Thanks. How many times are you going to ask the same question. This has already been asked andabu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-25T23:00:02Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/a1Rjm2cRVFothis.guy had a theorem?... nahplasma physics since at least the '960s <-- y3k problemma! > and that is 99.99 hundredths of reality; > j.g is just about ball-pairs, I guess > > > popular account by Alfven's student at u.c.s.d, > > Eric Lerner, _the big bang ne'er happenned, > > as far as they could tell! > > > > > >abu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-25T22:57:31Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/C5vDcey31DURe: Watch my video to find out why the trigonometric functions can only take radians as input (Featuring Prof. Jackie Huizenga)kill your television, before it's too late for dinnerabu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-25T22:56:04Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/obQbXOTVJbcwait'l he l00ks it "up"just give me the first t00 digits of the thirdr00t of t00, and I'll let them call it qy00br00t instead > you're projecting ... but > projective geometry is c00labu.ku...@gmail.com2017-02-25T22:50:27Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/E2HHYNYqWiI00f00there is a 2.5-page pr00f of the isomorphism of decutive ^ inductive pr00f; f00p y00 > > Your comments are unwelcome shit and will be ignored.konyberg2017-02-25T21:53:41Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/P8exBAgLWyERe: Students: Beware! Some of your mythmatics professors believe that the derivative of sin x is not always cos x.function can take any number, sin (30) and sin (pi/6) will never be the same thing. > > sin (30) = 30 - 30^3 / 3! + 30^5 / 5! - ... [A] > > sin (pi/6) = (pi/6) - (pi/6)^3 / 3! + (pi/6)^5 / 5! - ... [B] > > [A] =/= [B] > > The moral of the story is that before you can differentiate anyrichard miller2017-02-25T21:30:21Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/omv-mxRukFkMythical math's postersIt is plainly evident that the most frequent posters on this site are so insecure that they instantly re-post their own stuff whenever anyone may offer some alternative, or even unrelated maths. It could be any topic or rational mathematical subject, but these children cannot comprehend eitherPeter Percival2017-02-25T21:25:05Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/Puwrm1dAaLIRe: f(f(x)) = f(x)? any study on this kind of function[...] > Note that your condition is equivalent to f(y) =y. So there is no reason > to overthink this. Why? If f(y)=y then it follows that f(f(x))=f(x), but does it follow that if f(f(x))=f(x) then f(y)=y? Suppose f(x)=1 for all x, then f(f(x))=f(x) but not f(y)=y. -- Do, as a concessionburs...@gmail.com2017-02-25T21:15:12Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/P8exBAgLWyERe: Students: Beware! Some of your mythmatics professors believe that the derivative of sin x is not always cos x.By dick sucker you are talking about [A] you and [B] your calculoose/calclueless bird brain John Gabriel birdbrains? Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2017 18:13:53 UTC+1 schrieb John Gabriel:burs...@gmail.com2017-02-25T21:11:58Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/fxkuZaq_YbkRe: Now even 8th grade students can learn calculus - the New Calculus. Thank you John Gabriel!By BIG STUPID you are talking about you and your new calculoose/calclueless bird brain John Gabriel birdbrains? Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2017 18:11:33 UTC+1 schrieb John Gabriel:richard miller2017-02-25T21:11:44Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/sci.math/nWoa9GX2gysRe: Latest Solutions to 0 = x^n + y^n - z^n + k.x.y.z, up to n=101It would be rude not to. I'll have a quick go at a precis. Excuse extra woffle at end. The obvious question is why choose this equation, why not just something like x^n + y^n - z^n = 0 + delta, where delta is an integer that measures the closeness of any FLT counter-example? Of course,