https://groups.google.com/d/forum/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giantsalt.sports.football.pro.ny-giantsNew York Giants NFL football talk.Google Groupsdav...@agent.com2016-12-03T06:48:32Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/LSuAly1V40QSWAMI SEZ - Week 13SWAMI SEZ - Week 13 (year to date, 40-19) Chiefs 24, Falcons 23 Dolphins 17, Ravens 23 Lions 35, Saints 34 Panthers 17, Seahawks 27 Redskins 28, Cardinals 27bigfr...@gmail.com2016-12-02T21:13:38Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/21r71KsYEL8Bet the games. Here's a sign up bonus.Bookmaker sign up code is WAGER. Get a 100 percent sign up bonus. Sign up for free now and you will get the bonus on your first deposit. Click/Copy the link now and sign up so that you are in the system. http://www.bookmaker.eu/?cmpid=2559jeffg...@webtv.net2016-12-02T19:26:44Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/7IatDqQ7VMMI'm so glad I did not watch the Thursday night gameIf the refs had allowed the turds to lose, I would have watched the replay of the game today on the NFL Network. But, after reading all the comments on the game, I am so glad I did not watch it.IommiRULES2016-12-02T15:12:08Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/9wBRbwm9i3QLast Nights GameWell people are saying the Giants don't look like an 8-3 team, i'm here to say Dallas CERTAINLY didn't look like a 11-1 team last night, not even close. Sure the Giants D isn't the Vikings D, but if we gave Minny our offense and Brad Wing, who isn't even a great punter, then the Viking win thatDrElefant2016-12-02T14:09:49Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/rFBKFWusiGcVikings DE Robison blasts officials after loss to CowboysGood for him! Need more of this. http://www.twincities.com/2016/12/02/vikings-de-brian-robison-blasts-officials-after-loss-to-cowboys/ From the article: <<“I’m just going to say it right now: I’m sick of the reffing in this league,’’ Robison said. “I’m sick and tired of it. You got holdingjeffg...@webtv.net2016-12-02T11:33:58Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/uAqPYd0IccQLandon Collins named NFC defensive player of the month for NovemeberI don't think this should come as a surprise to anyone. Hopefully, he is picked for the pro bowl, but cannot play because he will be playing in the Super Bowl the following week!IommiRULES2016-12-02T04:34:57Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/bHD-HsOWMZUST's blow it for VikesWorst punting ever, fumble on the punt return. The Vikes D should sue for non-support. Well we get the toaster oven I guess, improve our playoff chances in general, but now need help to get division.IommiRULES2016-12-02T04:02:57Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/jLGgFvgMwr4Minnies punter blowsMy god I must have watched over 300 college games this year and I haven't seen punting this badIommiRULES2016-12-02T01:11:13Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/zTGGZua5b7AI got Minny +3Also got Minny SU +141. Gonna throw on my Harry Carson '86 throwback for some good luck.Nelson2016-12-01T17:06:11Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/yyLdTWX8ec8Top Ten CatchesAnyone see the recent "Top Ten" episode on NFL Network? As you probably gleamed from the title of my post, it was on the best catches. OBJ's Sunday night catch was #4.........Tyree's helmet catch was, very fittingly, # 1. Call me a homer, but I thought that Manningham's catch should also haveNelson2016-12-01T06:50:45Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/iuH_nxql9c4Al MichaelsI have a feeling that I'm the only person in the world who's in the dark on this but can anyone tell me why Michaels has been gonzo from the SNF telecasts? I figured that I would have heard something if he had been fired (VERY unlikely) or if he had some type of medical emergency....DrElefant2016-12-01T04:29:31Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/0jaInuOERRQCowboys catch another breakViking's coach needs emergency eye surgery. Tonight. This can only be the work of an evil super villain. Jerry Jones? But seriously, good luck to Coach Zimmer. Sounds serious. Say a prayer. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000749226/article/vikings-mike-zimmer-to-have-emergency-eye-surgeryIommiRULES2016-11-30T20:57:40Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/EFmFHmjhKZ4Vereen may be Back vs GirlsI just assumed he was out for season, this could be key for the stretch run. I mean he is pretty much the only missing link between last years more productive offense and this years sea of mediocrity, so who knows. http://nypost.com/2016/11/30/the-potential-key-to-balancing-giants-offense-nearsIommiRULES2016-11-30T19:29:03Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/UPaAFWhkDIMHow Did we Get here?Fritz posted an article that the Giants do not look like an 8-3 team, 2nd best in the NFC, had got me thinking.....how? A) The Giants have looked Mediocre....but they have been a consistent mediocre. Teams such Minny who started off like world beaters then went to total shit. Seattle looksjeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-30T16:55:03Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/vJbJlrj0uO8JPP named NFC defensive player of the weekI don't think this should surprise anyone as he had a monster game against the Browns. For their 11 games, the Giants now have had 3 weeks with the defensive player of the week for the NFC plus 1 with the offensive player of the week.DrElefant2016-11-30T11:35:07Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/1PY2p1i6C3ABig Brother Manning visits to help Giants gameplan SteelersOr maybe he's just selling insurance? Either way, guess it can't hurt. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2678978-peyton-manning-visits-giants-facility-helps-eli-with-game-plan-vs-steelers -------------------------------------------------- DocE "The future ain't what it used to be." -YogiFritz2016-11-30T02:25:54Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/1lSRSXUU9W08-3; Anyone else as unimpressed as I amWith this team. We should be happy with the results so far and in any ordinary season I'd be really optimistic. But I'm approaching the next three games waiting for the bottom to drop out. I think a lot of this teams success the last six games has been due to an easy schedule and little more.jeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-29T21:30:39Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/u4hTodGjiSYa very odd statisticAfter 11 games the Giants, the turds, and the eagles have all given up exactly 213 points.IommiRULES2016-11-29T19:00:56Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/SQ4cFbfM2AcLooking At The StandingsSure we are all hoping Dallas loses to minny and we beat Pitt before the big showdown so we can control destiny for a division title and #1 seed. BUT, if the playoffs is the goal the game to circle is the Redskins game. Win that game and even only one other I think the Giants are in.jeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-29T17:32:23Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/l75FxZ3YOjcreal nice article by Antrel Rollehttp://www.theplayerstribune.com/five-lessons-from-a-life-in-football/ It includes a great picture of Mario Manningham's catch in Super Bowl 46.jeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-29T11:20:33Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/fQWMheW8MWIAn NFC East team is now under .500I feel sorry for the eagles. NOT!!!!!IommiRULES2016-11-29T00:04:37Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/6GRHi6XCi-YDie Eagles, DieEven tho I have put some distance between me and Philly, which is a good thing I guess, I will miss telling them "i told you so" (Rookie coach, rookie QB) after I had to put up with their initial fools gold giddiness from earlier this season.Nelson2016-11-28T21:02:29Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/ZwJQQIiDHZ8Grading the DAt this point, on a 1-10 scale, I give the line a 7.5 to 8 (with an upward arrow), the d backfield an 8 to 8.5 and a 5 to the LBing crew....................thoughts?Slipperman2016-11-28T01:58:34Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/mtH2KP2PVnIonly 5 games left but..none of them are easy. have to admit they're doing better than i thought they would although they're still very flawed. if they can sweep the turds and beat the Redskins (not impossible), that would give them 10 wins and would almost assure them a wild card with a 4-2 division record. and whoIommiRULES2016-11-28T00:57:18Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/n48qtrf9xnULine seems about rightBut i'll have to go with KC and take the 3.5.IommiRULES2016-11-28T00:45:43Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/-MwMLvzs3jMStick a fork into the defending NFC ChampsAnd with the Seattle loss its official, the Giants have the 2nd best record in the NFC. Still lot of work to do, a desperate Pittsburgh team on the road up next.IommiRULES2016-11-27T23:29:48Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/UwNO4roSG2sBefore you say "it was only the browns"Look at the trouble Seattle is having with tampa, look at the trouble Patriots are having with the Jets.jeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-27T21:38:43Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/1dpV_-0trTkmaybe instead of blocking and attempting to return punts......they should not even bother to block and call a fair catch every punt. whenever they try to block on punts, they get penalized for a block in the back (or two). And that idiot Rainey, when he fumbled the punt he should have just fell on it instead of trying to pick it up on the run.IommiRULES2016-11-27T21:14:07Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/L0_NB0g1kxEReturn Of The PawGive JPP whatever he wants please. Now. Pretty boring game til 4th Q. The gameplan of "Punt and let the browns fuck up" seemed to be working....til Rainey fucked up. Also OBJ returning punts? Mac must have never heard of Jason Sehorn....and OBJ going down would be 10 TIMES THAT. If i'm havingIommiRULES2016-11-27T16:13:48Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/7k0Vijhf37MMy MVP So FarSpags. Sure the Giants went out and spent 200 million but spags has put the money to good use. Far from a dominate Defense (We will need some LB's before that happens) Spags has found the perfect balance of bend don't break and pressure when needed and has come away with the best closers in NYDrElefant2016-11-27T01:30:50Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/61KIghHwz3gPing: FritzFritz, did you happen to go to this game? I couldn't blame you if you didn't because the conditions were nuts; snow, sleet, ice, wind, and freezing. It's the Bears at the Giants, which could be titled "The 1977 Season Finale" ... or ... "How to Dominate a Game and Still Lose." It was fun tojeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-26T18:56:48Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/bc6LDP9Y4WwNassib will play tomorrow!That would be Carl Nassib, a member of the Cleveland Browns. As for the Nassib on our roster, maybe if they are up 30 or more points in the 4th quarter and his elbow injured holding the clipboard during the bye week holds out, just maybe he will get to hand the ball off.IommiRULES2016-11-26T00:51:02Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/TlTzKLR3iN0Madden gradesDoing some scouting for my Madden Franchise. The WEAKEST part of the Giants is thus according to my scouts: MLB: D TE: C RT: C And yes this is recent roster download, in other words they already know about Landon Collins and Pughs breakout years, and the duds too. Stongest: LDE: B+ SS:IommiRULES2016-11-24T16:11:43Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/W9PEqmpcSpUIt is kind of a win-winFirst off happy thanksgiving everyone. OK well I guess i'm rooting for Wash cause I just bet them (+6) and also The Giants are still very much alive in the division race, but it is pretty much a win-win situation for the Giants. If Wash loses then they get knocked back a game in the wildcardjeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-23T16:43:41Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/RyWpWYCmOCAbook recommendation (except fro Nelson)--The Education of a Coach by David HalberstamThe book is about Bill Belichick. It was written in 2005, so it is before the Super Bowl losses to our Giants. I'm just up to he was hired by Ray Perkins to work for the Giants. Before that much of the book was about his father, and a little about his grandparents who emigrated from Croatia.jeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-23T03:01:30Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/nJn2qXv97MkPing 6I sent you an e-mailMinnesota Fats2016-11-22T05:14:04Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/IGYSrxp9rVYHappy Thansgiving, GuysIt's that time of year for me to keep the elves busy and to get the reindeer ready. Looks like I'm in for a busy Yule Season. Football talk aside, my warmest wishes to all of you and your families for a most joyous Thanksgiving and all that goes with it. Shalom, guys.jeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-21T21:31:46Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/6nTWN-ceUEYPing DocWe've discussed before (way before Thursday Night Football) how the cowturds every year have the advantage of the short week at home on Thanksgiving. This year they play Washington, which has to go to Dallas from the Sunday night game. I'm surprised Commissioner Jones doesn't have one of theIommiRULES2016-11-21T19:57:42Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/k9iG3IqjPvALooking at standingsThe Giants, only 2nd in NFC EAST are actually third if the conference was one division. Yep, Dallas, Seattle then Giants. Doesn't seem right but it is true. If there was only a few weeks left I imagine a wildcard would be clinched...but we are still midseason.IommiRULES2016-11-21T15:42:50Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/PYFey_q5cxASkins look for realYeah we could have easily beat them and really should have...but that game seems like it was last season at this point. Still lotta Football to play but 75% of the NFC east could get into the playoffs.nor...@googlegroups.com2016-11-21T15:05:33Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/OP_inrBQ4mgUntil This OL Shows It Can Run The Ball At WIll I Am Not SoldOne dimensional offenses don't carry teams all that far in the post season. Now of course the defense could start playing like the '85 Bears, '86 Giants or '00 Ravens but I'm not sure the Giants have that kind of group.... Hats N Bats --Nelson2016-11-21T03:06:41Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/Xx5iPC_9Yw4Anyone hear how Floyd is doing?Hate to see that, but I thought it was a good sign that there was some movement, and not that sickening limp, rag doll look we see on some of the really serious injuries, where, they're limp before they even hit the ground.Lubow2016-11-21T02:50:48Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/CiwIvbX6C8gToday's TV announcersI don't know who were today's Fox TV guys for the Bears vs. Giants but whoever was the color guy made me wish we could resurrect Al deRogatis. What did this talking head give us? For me I just turned off the sound because of the voice pollution. Where the hell was the analysis? I'm not atNelson2016-11-21T02:29:37Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/PpuHJxcb4vMDid Collins really save Mac's bacon?Great clutch play! That was getting pretty damn scary. But what I'm still wondering about is Mac's decision, during that final drive (IIRC, immediately before the big pick)to take the 5 yard penalty for illegal shift. In taking the penalty, that made it SECOND and 29....did he really choose thatIommiRULES2016-11-21T01:10:49Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/C9FDokfVshIPhilly outclassedCan't blame them, Seattle still prolly toughest place to play. But I was telling anyone who would listen don't anoint Wentz the new Marino yet. Think that talk has died down. I don't like that Pederson guy, seems like when something goes wrong and they have a shot of him he looks like someoneIommiRULES2016-11-20T22:30:41Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/VP3UAT49btQCertainly not a measuring stickEven with the comeback it was kind of a "ho hum" game, because all along i'm thinking why should we even HAVE to pull this one out. que sera sera, its a W. Even if we destroy the Browns next week we still will not get any extra credit. And come to think of it who is afraid of the Steelers theseIommiRULES2016-11-20T21:48:12Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/HxefFib8GQUTrading PlacesToday the D came out slow and the offense kept the Giants in the game til the D woke up in the 2nd half. Seems like it has been the opposite most the season. That's OK I call that complimentary football. Jennings another solid game. Was weird seemed like after that Roughing passer penalty onDrElefant2016-11-20T21:32:48Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/GS5C_hK0-AMNo turnovers! Miracle?But you see, the defense can have a low quality first half and you can still win when you don't cough it up. The D was brilliant in the second half. The O was good until they ran out of gas in the middle of the second half. They need to change up that 3 WR formation if they want to run out thedav...@agent.com2016-11-20T07:04:27Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/hRXuqa1XbikAnyone make a hunch bet in the 1st at Aqueduct? Bavaro, 1st time out, 13.60 to 11ST RACE Aqueduct, NOV 19, 2016 6 FURLONGS, MDN SPC WGT, Purse $55,000 FOR MAIDENS, TWO YEARS OLD FOALED IN NY STATE & APPROVED BY THE NY STATE-BRED REGISTRY. OFF AT 12:23, Start Good, Won driving, Track fast. $2 Mutuel Prices: 6 -BAVARO 29.40 9.00 6.00 7 -SICILIA MIKEjeffg...@webtv.net2016-11-19T19:13:11Zhttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.sports.football.pro.ny-giants/i8TrpixMrPMbeginning to worry about the Bears' gameThere is bad weather predicted for that Sunday. The Bears have a rookie running back averaging 5.3 yards per carry. I don't believe if you added Jennings' and Perkins' yards per carry together would you come up with a number that high. Plus there is talk that Cutler has lost his locker room.