| 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 9:29 AM | Good news everyone!
-The source code for 4.2 is being pushed to AOSP right now. Look for it under the name "android-4.2_r1" once the replication completes. The matching development branch (for CTS contributions) is jb-mr1-dev, and all the changes are merged into the master branch where platform contributions are accepted. -Nexus 10 is now the best choice for AOSP work on 4.2. Everything except the GPU code is Open Source, and the only proprietary binaries besides the GPU libraries are firmware files that get loaded into the various peripheral chips. No flagship device so far has been so open, and no flagship device so far has had that level of AOSP support at launch. -Nexus 7 3G isn't supported. We haven't been able to license the GSM stack for AOSP yet, and without the GSM stack this device doesn't do more than a plain Nexus 7. -If AOSP starts pointing toward Nexus 4, you are having a bad problem, and you will not go to space today (i.e.: there is nothing in AOSP related to Nexus 4). -Factory images for the "takju" Galaxy Nexus as well as Nexus 7 (both variants), Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 are available at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images -Proprietary binaries to run AOSP on Galaxy Nexus (maguro, toro and toroplus), Nexus 7 (grouper) and Nexus 10 (manta) are available at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers -There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should continue using 4.1.2. JBQ PS: don't reply to this thread if you have specific questions. Start new threads instead. PPS: no ETAs for OTAs. -- Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru Technical Lead, Android Open Source Project, Google. Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further warning. |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Jeremy Schulte | 11/13/12 9:43 AM | Thank you sir! -- |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Artem Russakovskii | 11/13/12 9:52 AM | This is more of a clarification so I'm not going to start a new thread: am I reading this correctly that AOSP support is stopping for the XOOM and Nexus S, or they're not *currently* supported with this release but will be supported in the future? Thanks, JBQ. |
| 4.2 and AOSP | iceandfire | 11/13/12 9:54 AM | How much should we wait before we can start merging? Thanks JQ :) |
| unk...@googlegroups.com | 11/13/12 9:55 AM | <This message has been deleted.> | |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | JF Dionne | 11/13/12 9:58 AM | Hi JBQ Thanks for the update. I guess that as usual you will start a new thread when kernel updates will be released ? JF |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Mike Swanson | 11/13/12 10:00 AM | Excellent. Thanks. Can you tell us if anyone has addressed the bug regarding voice-to-text while connected to a Bluetooth device? Well done, as always. |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 10:01 AM | I can't comment about the future of Nexus S and Xoom, sorry.
JBQ > -- |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 10:04 AM | I will take care of the kernel sources as soon as everything clears up
on the platform side. JBQ |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Jet Shinoda | 11/13/12 10:19 AM | thank you sir I.C.F -- |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | morfic | 11/13/12 10:29 AM | What was that about nexus 4 and aosp? -- |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Nick Hester | 11/13/12 10:30 AM | SPACE!!! Wanna go to space with my Nexus 4. |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 10:32 AM | To clarify: Nexus 4 is not supported in AOSP at the moment: no source
files, no binaries. JBQ |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Lou | 11/13/12 10:34 AM | Can you please clarify what you said about the Nexus 4 and AOSP? Are you saying that Nexus 4 currently isn't in AOSP, or won't ever be in AOSP? |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Andreas Lusth | 11/13/12 10:38 AM | Can you elaborate on why there is no support for the Nexus S? |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Alaeddine Ghribi | 11/13/12 10:38 AM | Nexus S is not supported ?! Why ? No reason!!! You know Google engineers that Nexus S can perfectly handle 4.2 but you will not do it for commercial reasons! Shame!
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| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Kali Kot | 11/13/12 10:42 AM | What makes the Nexus S and Xoom unspported in 4.2? They have enough muscle to run the updates dont they? |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | ogdobber | 11/13/12 10:43 AM | Who needs source when you can't even get one |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 10:44 AM | I can't comment on the future of Nexus 4 in AOSP, sorry.
JBQ
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| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 10:46 AM | I can't comment about 4.2 support for Nexus S or Xoom.
JBQ > -- |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Justin Olsson | 11/13/12 10:55 AM | Nice XKCD reference (http://www.xkcd.com/1133/) :)
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| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Geofuzzy | 11/13/12 11:11 AM | Belittling the AOSP guys in a public post isn't going to get you what you want...4.2 will easily be supported by the Xoom and the Nexus S just not officially, and not in AOSP, at some point you have to retire a device with less then a GB of RAM. |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Alin Baciu | 11/13/12 11:12 AM | I hope there will eventually be support for the Nexus S. Most of the new features, except photoshpere don't require any extra hardware juice, so I don't see why it shouldn't get at least the new UI features. |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Patrick Rochon | 11/13/12 12:09 PM | what about yakju ?
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| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Patrick Rochon | 11/13/12 12:14 PM | what about the yakju image ? |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 12:19 PM | Yakju images will be distributed through the usual location once the
yakju OTA is approved. JBQ |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Constantine Moon | 11/13/12 12:34 PM | it's sad that Nexus S isn't supported now, because it means that possibly Galaxy Nexus won't be supported in future :( |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Bill Gatliff | 11/13/12 12:42 PM | Guys:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Geofuzzy <goga...@gmail.com> wrote: > at some point you have to retire a device with > less then a GB of RAM. I reject this justification, unless one truly needs 1GB of RAM to run the later code. We killed off the Nexus One earlier than necessary because of a nonsense flash partitioning issue. Let's not make that mistake again. While it is true that the GPU in that handset would have provided a less-than-optimal experience, that's for the end user to conclude for themselves. Use the user's experience with the underperforming device to help motivate the demand for new hardware, rather than simply denying them the utility of their current handsets. I'm a huge fan of Android and AOSP, and am exceedingly grateful to JBQ and others for all the hard work that they do. To toss their work away because certain devices become technically inconvenient for vendors to support is tragic, makes no engineering sense, and sends the wrong message to the larger open source AND commercial development communities. b.g. -- Bill Gatliff bg...@billgatliff.com |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 12:44 PM | That part of the discussion is getting off-topic for this thread and
for this forum. Thanks, JBQ > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Android Building" mailing list. > To post to this group, send email to android-...@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-buildi...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-building?hl=en -- Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru Technical Lead, Android Open Source Project, Google. Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further warning. |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Tom Beattie | 11/13/12 3:34 PM | :-( I hope that changes soon. On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: I can't comment about the future of Nexus S and Xoom, sorry. |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | John Hsing | 11/13/12 6:15 PM | Thanks for your hard work~ 在 2012年11月14日星期三UTC+8上午1时29分31秒，Jean-Baptiste Queru写道： |
| 4.2 and AOSP | Kevin | 11/13/12 7:47 PM | So in a nut shell what does this mean for 4 and 7 3g? Seriously. I just purchased both. Should I take this as my confidence shaken and withdraw my orders?99 |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | shixi bsdl | 11/13/12 7:53 PM | Hi JBQ,
Do you plan to push the git tag "android-sdk-adt_r21" (for ADT r21) to AOSP? Thanks Scott Fan |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 7:54 PM | I expect that I should be able to do that once everything clears up.
In the meantime, that should essentially be the tip of the tools_r21 branch. JBQ |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/13/12 7:56 PM | It means that right now you can't build AOSP for either of those
devices in a way that results in a functional device. And that's all it means. JBQ
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| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Apostolis Ntaoulis | 11/13/12 10:54 PM | I hope there will eventually be support for the Nexus S. Τη Τρίτη, 13 Νοεμβρίου 2012 7:29:31 μ.μ. UTC+2, ο χρήστης Jean-Baptiste Queru έγραψε: -- |
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| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Tadej Rudec | 11/14/12 1:36 AM | People blaming NS performance are forgetting the mass of mid and low end Android devices which NS still over performs after 2 years + it’s still relevant as a developer device (NFC) It’s sad how Google somehow shifted the device focus from developer to a consumer thing. The Nexus One point is moot, because it didn’t have enough storage left for the system partition. Nexus S has at this point with 4.1.2 installed, 200MB left on the /system partition. Galaxy Nexus 4.2 OTA was 74MB and even after patching it’s not that large, so the internal storage shouldn't be the case here. I understand they don’t want to waste resources on a old device, (OTA, support etc), but it would be nice, even in AOSP spirit and developer fair sense, that Google would at least post binaries for 4.2 OR the system images for developers and knowledgeable people to get to 4.2, if it's just a revised JB. |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Neeraj Vohra | 11/14/12 1:41 AM | Great job JBQ. Love the update. Nexus device rock! |
| Re: [android-building] 4.2 and AOSP | Karim Yaghmour | 11/14/12 2:17 AM | Very cool. Thanks for keeping this going, very much appreciated. -- Karim Yaghmour CEO - Opersys inc. / www.opersys.com http://twitter.com/karimyaghmour |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | imnuts | 11/14/12 10:45 AM | Thank you for the platform source, and looking forward to the kernel source being pushed out soon too. :) Mark On Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:04:34 PM UTC-5, Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: I will take care of the kernel sources as soon as everything clears up |
| 4.2 and AOSP | Kevin | 11/14/12 4:58 PM | Thanx JBQ, sorry if I was a little aggressive on my last post. I being still fairly new just wanted some clarification. Again thank you for your patience, guidance, and excellent work. |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | RC | 11/16/12 11:49 AM | w00t!! -- |
| Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Aziz THRAYA | 11/18/12 10:21 AM | Hi, Intel X86 not supported by the 4.2? no emulator no kernel source... thank you Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 18:29:31 UTC+1, Jean-Baptiste Queru a écrit : |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/20/12 9:16 AM | This should work to build and run an x86 emulator:
source build/envsetup.sh lunch full_x86-eng make emulator& JBQ > -- |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | RC | 11/20/12 9:24 AM | Would you post updates in the forum when the kernel source is ready? Thank you. -RC
I will take care of the kernel sources as soon as everything clears upOn Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:58 AM, JF Dionne <jeanfra...@gmail.com> wrote: |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/20/12 9:24 AM | There's typically a small gap (hours or days) between the platform
source release and the kernel source release, with the platform usually coming first (because it's much easier to automate). the kernel sources have now been available for a little while. JBq > -- |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/20/12 9:27 AM | Everything should be available at this point.
JBQ |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | RC | 11/20/12 11:38 AM | Thanks for the quick turnaround, JBQ. I didn't see the original post mentioning Panda board, does the new code drop works with Panda board? Thanks! -RC |
| Re: [android-building] Re: 4.2 and AOSP | Jean-Baptiste Queru | 11/20/12 12:44 PM | It's got issues. We've got source changes submitted in the kernel
repository, but the prebuilt kernel doesn't seem to work everywhere: https://android-review.googlesource.com/46477 JBQ |