Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs

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Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs Bill Schenley 12/23/07 1:51 AM
LSU's First Full-Time Baseball Coach Dies

1965 Topps (#88) baseball card:
http://www.baseballcardproject.com/Topps/R/1965/88.jpg

FROM:  The Lafayette (LA) Daily Advisor ~
By Staff Reports

BATON ROUGE -

Jack Lamabe, LSU's first full-time baseball coach, died Friday.
He was 71.

Lamabe came to LSU after a stint at Jacksonville University,
where former LSU coach Smoke Laval played catcher for
Lamabe's team.

He was born in Farmingdale, N.Y., and was a graduate of the
University of Vermont.

He signed with the Philadelphia Phillies in 1956 and made his
Major League debut with the Boston Red Sox [1] in April
1962. He was 7-4, had six saves with a 3.15 ERA that
season [2].

The Cardinals picked Lamabe up in July 1967. Lamabe
pitched shutout ball in eight appearances in August in helping
St. Louis take the National League pennant and was the
losing pitcher against Boston in the 1967 World Series, a 7-2
Cardinals loss.

Lamabe - who left LSU after the 1983 season, when Skip
Bertman was named LSU's head coach - is survived by his
wife Janet and two children, John and Jennifer, and has lived
in Baton Rouge since he took the LSU job in 1979.
---
1969 Topps (#311) baseball card:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/jack_lamabe_autograph.jpg

Stats:  http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lamabja01.shtml

[1] He made his MLB debut for the Pittsburgh Pirates
[2] He was 3-1.


Re: Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs H Glazer 12/23/07 7:38 AM

Bill Schenley <stra...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> LSU's First Full-Time Baseball Coach Dies
>
> 1965 Topps (#88) baseball card:
> http://www.baseballcardproject.com/Topps/R/1965/88.jpg
>
> FROM:  The Lafayette (LA) Daily Advisor ~
> By Staff Reports
>
> BATON ROUGE -
>
> Jack Lamabe, LSU's first full-time baseball coach, died Friday.
> He was 71.
>
> The Cardinals picked Lamabe up in July 1967. Lamabe
> pitched shutout ball in eight appearances in August in helping
> St. Louis take the National League pennant and was the
> losing pitcher against Boston in the 1967 World Series, a 7-2
> Cardinals loss.
>

Actually, he was the losing pitcher in Game 6, an 8-4 loss. The Cardinals
won the next game, 7-2, to win the Series.

H.

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Re: Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs Bill Schenley 12/23/07 11:57 AM
> How come Schenley, noted baseball "expert" didn't notice that error?

I can't spot them all.  I know a lot about baseball ... but not everything.
Howard is *much* better at spotting obit errors than I am.


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Re: Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs MWB 12/23/07 4:16 PM

"A" <aa...@hot.net> wrote in message
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> "Bill Schenley" <stra...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:476ebdaf$0$8798$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

>>> How come Schenley, noted baseball "expert" didn't notice that error?
>>
>> I can't spot them all.  I know a lot about baseball ... but not
>> everything. Howard is *much* better at spotting obit errors than I am.
>
>           You seem humble about this, which seems a rarity for you.
>           Nice to read and I appreciate it.
>

This happens every Christmas.

GO PATRIOTS


Mark


Re: Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs roderi...@gmail.com 12/24/07 3:34 AM
On Dec 23, 6:49 pm, "A" <aa...@hot.net> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> "Bill Schenley" <stray...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message

>
> news:476ebdaf$0$8798$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> >> How come Schenley, noted baseball "expert" didn't notice that error?
>
> > I can't spot them all.  I know a lot about baseball ... but not
> > everything. Howard is *much* better at spotting obit errors than I am.
>
>            You seem humble about this, which seems a rarity for you.
>            Nice to read and I appreciate it.
>
>            BTW, about Lamabe in his '62 debut season with the Pirates, not
> only was he 3-1 as you noted, but he only had 2 saves (not 6), and his ERA
> was 2.88 (not 3.15).
>            He was 3-4 (incl. 1 CG shutout as a starter), with 4 SVs and a
> 2.83 ERA with the Redbirds in '67.
>            He still got a WS ring that year, and many superior players would
> trade their great stats for one of those cherished pieces of jewelry.
>            I remembered his name from that team when I first saw the obit,
> but not the details on his performance that year.

Seems the Lafayette Daily Advisor transposed some of Lamabe's 1962 and
1963 stats.

Regarding his 1967 season, the irony about that shutout he threw in
his only start of the season, is that it came against the Mets on Aug
28, just a few weeks after they had traded him, between games of a
double-header in St. Louis. The shutout was payback for that day, when
pressed into service early, coming on down a run in the third inning.
I'm sure he probably remember those two innings right up until he
passed.  He was greeted with two straight singles but escaped with an
inning-ending around-the-horn double play. After pitching a spotless
fourth, he kept a rally going in the bottom of the fourth with a game
tying RBI single.  However when he came out in the fifth to face the
top of the order, his luck would change.

From Baseball-Reference.com and Retrosheet.org
http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/lamabja01.shtml  <- career stats,
etc
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN196707162.shtml  <-
play-by-play and box score - first Cards appearance, 2IP vs Mets
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN196708282.shtml  <-
play-by-play and box score - first and only start, CG SHO vs Mets

*July 16, 1967: Traded by the New York Mets to the St. Louis Cardinals
for a player to be named later. The St. Louis Cardinals sent Al
Jackson (October 13, 1967) to the New York Mets to complete the trade.

Rod Nelson

Re: Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs Bill Schenley 12/24/07 9:16 AM
> > > How come Schenley, noted baseball "expert" didn't notice that error?
>
> > I can't spot them all.  I know a lot about baseball ... but not
> > everything. Howard is *much* better at spotting obit errors than I am.
>
>You seem humble about this, which seems a rarity for you.
> Nice to read and I appreciate it.

It's not about being "humble," rather it is about being factual.

When I spot an error in a baseball obit, it's because I know the information
is wrong.  But that doesn't mean I know what the correct information is.  In
Lamabe's case, I had no idea what his W-L record was in his first season ...
all I knew was that he started his career with Pittsburgh and not with
Boston.  Everything else ... I had to look up.

When I see an obit that states "So-And-So hit 43 home runs in 1958," I look
it up, not because I know how many HRs So-And-So hit in 1958 ... but because
I know good old So-And-So never had a 40-HR season.

Howard, on the other hand, would probably know haw many HRs So-And-So hit in
1958.  There are many people who have more information than I do.  Rod
Nelson, who also posted in this thread, would be another.  You, however,
seem to live in the perpetual state of Urban Legend (see the Jeanne Carmen
thread).  You have many of the same resources the rest of us have, but it
seems you would rather wing it - make it up - as opposed to *look* it up.

> BTW, about Lamabe in his '62 debut season with the Pirates, not only was
> he 3-1 as you noted, but he only had 2 saves (not 6), and his ERA was 2.88
> (not 3.15).

The obit writer used Lamabe's second season stats.

And don't call me "humble" ... again ...


Re: Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs H Glazer 12/24/07 3:19 PM

Bill Schenley <stra...@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> When I see an obit that states "So-And-So hit 43 home runs in 1958," I
look
> it up, not because I know how many HRs So-And-So hit in 1958 ... but
because
> I know good old So-And-So never had a 40-HR season.
>
> Howard, on the other hand, would probably know haw many HRs So-And-So hit
in
> 1958.

I must admit, humbly, that I wouldn't. I'm no encyclopedia of baseball --
what I have is a better than average memory of games and players I've seen,
and the 1967 World Series is one of my most vivid early baseball memories.
7-2 is a score that still burns in many Red Sox fans' memories, so I knew
immediately that Lamabe and the Cardinals did not lose any game in that
Series by that score.

I also admit, humbly, that I did check the boxscore for Game 6 just to make
sure that Lamabe was indeed the loser.

Baseball statistics from the 1950s aren't something I'd ever be correcting.
I would have been 3 years old when good old So-and-So took good old
What's-his-Face deep for No. 38 or No. 48 or however many he hit. I'd
probably know the name, but certainly not the details of his career. I can't
even tell you how many homers Mickey Mantle hit in a given season in the
'50s.

H.

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Re: Jack Lamabe, 71, Pitched For Pirates/Red Sox/Astros/White Sox/Mets/Cardinals/Cubs SoHillsGuy 12/25/07 7:44 AM
On Dec 23, 4:51 am, "Bill Schenley" <stray...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> 1969 Topps (#311) baseball card:http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/jack_lamabe_autograph.jpg


That's a 1968 Topps, not 1969....