Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas

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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Mark S 4/23/12 11:55 AM
On Apr 23, 11:26 am, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:

> I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> in digital format.


The fact that Lim (who is for all intents and purposes an unknown
quantity) has been entrusted with the complete Beethoven sonatas on a
major label sends up a big red flag. Those kind of things didn't
happen when the record labels were flush with cash at the height of
the CD age. What are the chances it would happen today, especially at
EMI, which is currently being auctioned off to the highest bidder?

From the looks of it, I would guess that someone besides EMI is
bankrolling this project, perhaps a patron of the pianist who has deep
enough pockets to pay EMI whatever they wanted, thus allowing some
promoter to add prestige to Lim's name. Ergo, EMI has probably made
what they're going to make from what looks to me like a pay-to-play
arrangement.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Thomas 4/23/12 12:20 PM
Unless H J Lim is a real cutie with great legs and no underwear this
project is doomed to linger.  As you're a certified CD reviewer I hope
you audition this and let us know if there's anything substantial
here.  I've recently received and am currently listening to the re-
release of Arrau's set and don't expect anyone to top it anytime
soon.  Especially on a CFX concert grand.

Kirk McElhearn at dot wrote:
> I just got a press release about a Korean pianist, HJ Lim, who has
> recorded all of Beethoven's piano sonatas. What is unique here is this:
>
> "EMI will release Lim’s Complete Beethoven Sonatas on the iTunes Music
> Store for only $9.99, a strategy commonly used with compilations, but
> never with a new release until now. A Yamaha exclusive artist, HJ was
> also the first to record
> the complete sonatas on a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano, the crown
> jewel of their remarkable piano collection."
>
> That's certainly a very aggresive approach.
>
> The booklet for the set can be seen here:
>
> http://issuu.com/emiclasiscsus/docs/hj_lim_-_complete_beethoven_sonatas_booklet__engli?mode=window&pageNumber=1
>
> Amazon
>
> only lists one 2-disc set of these so far:
>
> http://amzn.to/ItMkni
>
> I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> in digital format.
>
> Kirk
>
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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Matthew B. Tepper 4/23/12 12:30 PM
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> Unless H J Lim is a real cutie with great legs and no underwear this
> project is doomed to linger.

Do a Google image search on her name.

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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Matthew B. Tepper 4/23/12 12:30 PM
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> The fact that Lim (who is for all intents and purposes an unknown
> quantity) has been entrusted with the complete Beethoven sonatas on a
> major label sends up a big red flag. Those kind of things didn't
> happen when the record labels were flush with cash at the height of
> the CD age. What are the chances it would happen today, especially at
> EMI, which is currently being auctioned off to the highest bidder?
>
> From the looks of it, I would guess that someone besides EMI is
> bankrolling this project, perhaps a patron of the pianist who has deep
> enough pockets to pay EMI whatever they wanted, thus allowing some
> promoter to add prestige to Lim's name. Ergo, EMI has probably made
> what they're going to make from what looks to me like a pay-to-play
> arrangement.

If she turns up as musical guest on "Saturday Night Live," or gets to
perform on the televised Grammy Awards, then we'll know just how big a
patron she has.

When I see a performer being pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and
pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed, that is definitely a red flag.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/23/12 12:43 PM
On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 11:26 am, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> > music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> > that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> > Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> > in digital format.
>
> The fact that Lim (who is for all intents and purposes an unknown
> quantity) has been entrusted with the complete Beethoven sonatas on a
> major label sends up a big red flag. Those kind of things didn't
> happen when the record labels were flush with cash at the height of
> the CD age. What are the chances it would happen today, especially at
> EMI, which is currently being auctioned off to the highest bidder?
>
> From the looks of it, I would guess that someone besides EMI is
> bankrolling this project, perhaps a patron of the pianist who has deep
> enough pockets to pay EMI whatever they wanted, thus allowing some
> promoter to add prestige to Lim's name. Ergo, EMI has probably made
> what they're going to make from what looks to me like a pay-to-play
> arrangement.

In other words:

This is a vanity publication.

Seems logical to me.

TD
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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Bozo 4/23/12 1:16 PM
>On Apr 23, 2:44 pm, O <ow...@denofinequityx.com> wrote:

> The patron might be Yamaha Pianos, who want to showcase their CFX.
>


Bingo !! For you and Mark S. Isn't Lang Lang a " Steinway Artist " ?

Dufus

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Thomas 4/23/12 3:29 PM
On Apr 23, 12:30 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
> letters to be typed in news:1248d3ff-f4ec-403d-a838-c1ac2f292be9
> @ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Unless H J Lim is a real cutie with great legs and no underwear this
> > project is doomed to linger.
>
> Do a Google image search on her name.
>
Thanks for the suggestion.  Don't know about her underwear but even
fully clothed she definitely shows signs of having the kind of talent
that sells CD's these days.  I suspect the mousse haired morons at EMI
know exactly what they're doing.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/23/12 3:33 PM
I don't know any "mousse-haired morons" at EMI. Whom might you be
speaking about? Or is your comment as gratuitous a slur as the average
Tepper spew?

TD
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas basnperson 4/23/12 4:14 PM
On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 11:26 am, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> > music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> > that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> > Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> > in digital format.
>
> The fact that Lim (who is for all intents and purposes an unknown
> quantity) has been entrusted with the complete Beethoven sonatas on a
> major label sends up a big red flag. Those kind of things didn't
> happen when the record labels were flush with cash at the height of
> the CD age. What are the chances it would happen today, especially at
> EMI, which is currently being auctioned off to the highest bidder?
>
> From the looks of it, I would guess that someone besides EMI is
> bankrolling this project, perhaps a patron of the pianist who has deep
> enough pockets to pay EMI whatever they wanted, thus allowing some
> promoter to add prestige to Lim's name. Ergo, EMI has probably made
> what they're going to make from what looks to me like a pay-to-play
> arrangement.

dont underestimate this lady........ the last movt of the "Adieux"  is
very impressive.  Huge technique but a penchant for playing too fast
at times on other examples on youtube. We shall see.

AB
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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Thornhill 4/23/12 5:15 PM
On Apr 23, 2:26 pm, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:
> I just got a press release about a Korean pianist, HJ Lim, who has
> recorded all of Beethoven's piano sonatas. What is unique here is this:
>
> "EMI will release Lim’s Complete Beethoven Sonatas on the iTunes Music
> Store for only $9.99, a strategy commonly used with compilations, but
> never with a new release until now. A Yamaha exclusive artist, HJ was
> also the first to record
> the complete sonatas on a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano, the crown
> jewel of their remarkable piano collection."
>
> That's certainly a very aggresive approach.
>
> The booklet for the set can be seen here:
>
> http://issuu.com/emiclasiscsus/docs/hj_lim_-_complete_beethoven_sonat...
>
> Amazon
>
> only lists one 2-disc set of these so far:
>
> http://amzn.to/ItMkni
>
> I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> in digital format.

MDT lists the 8-disc CD box for $46.76

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/NR_May12_Classical/4649522.htm

Other recent complete recordings having been released at that price
point.

The Rudolf Buchbinder 9-disc set which just came out was priced at
$48:

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//88697875102.htm

Harmonia Mundi also quickly released the Paul Lewis recordings at a
budget price:

http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//HMX2901902-11.htm
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/23/12 5:17 PM
On Apr 23, 7:14 pm, basnperson <abachr...@att.net> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 23, 11:26 am, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:
>
> > > I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> > > music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> > > that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> > > Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> > > in digital format.
>
> > The fact that Lim (who is for all intents and purposes an unknown
> > quantity) has been entrusted with the complete Beethoven sonatas on a
> > major label sends up a big red flag. Those kind of things didn't
> > happen when the record labels were flush with cash at the height of
> > the CD age. What are the chances it would happen today, especially at
> > EMI, which is currently being auctioned off to the highest bidder?
>
> > From the looks of it, I would guess that someone besides EMI is
> > bankrolling this project, perhaps a patron of the pianist who has deep
> > enough pockets to pay EMI whatever they wanted, thus allowing some
> > promoter to add prestige to Lim's name. Ergo, EMI has probably made
> > what they're going to make from what looks to me like a pay-to-play
> > arrangement.
>
> dont underestimate this lady........ the last movt of the "Adieux"  is
> very impressive.  Huge technique but a penchant for playing too fast
> at times on other examples on youtube. We shall see.

She may have good technique. But how would you know without giving her
a trial period?

TD

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas basnperson 4/23/12 5:49 PM
agreed, so lets give her some time.

AB
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Wiser 4/23/12 5:59 PM
"td" <tomde...@mac.com> wrote:
On Apr 23, 7:14 pm, basnperson <abachr...@att.net> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[BIG SNIP]>
>> dont underestimate this lady........ the last movt of the "Adieux" is
>> very impressive. Huge technique but a penchant for playing too fast
>> at times on other examples on youtube. We shall see.

> She may have good technique. But how would you know without giving her
> a trial period?

Hey, Tomasito! we're just listening to her, we aren't gonna marry her.

JDW

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas whiskynsplash 4/23/12 6:37 PM
On Apr 23, 1:26 pm, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:
> I just got a press release about a Korean pianist, HJ Lim, who has
> recorded all of Beethoven's piano sonatas. What is unique here is this:
> Kirk

Weird little weasel named James Rhodes on the Delirium Tremens blogged
this:

Musical Viagra: how a young Korean pianist made me fall in love with
Beethoven all over again
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/jamesrhodes/100062524/musical-viagra-how-a-young-korean-pianist-made-me-fall-in-love-with-beethoven-all-over-again/

"This is playing that does everything one could possibly want and so
much more – it is the musical equivalent of Viagra, restoring passion,
lust and hunger for an old lover – something the classical music
industry is desperately in need of.  It forces you to listen to this
music as if for the very first time, rediscovering everything that is
great about it – like being married for 30 years and suddenly one
morning waking up and seeing your wife miraculously transformed back
into the smoking hot 20-something you first met and remembering how
impossibly lucky you are to be with her"
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Matthew B. Tepper 4/23/12 7:04 PM
John Thomas <abras...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:88347f58-2e43-483c-a99f-
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> On Apr 23, 12:30 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
>> letters to be typed in news:1248d3ff-f4ec-403d-a838-c1ac2f292be9
>> @ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Unless H J Lim is a real cutie with great legs and no underwear this
>> > project is doomed to linger.
>>
>> Do a Google image search on her name.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.  Don't know about her underwear but even
> fully clothed she definitely shows signs of having the kind of talent
> that sells CD's these days.  I suspect the mousse haired morons at EMI
> know exactly what they're doing.

Yep, what a miserable time it must be for non-photogenic performers.  
Someone like Clara Haskil could never have gotten started nowadays.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Matthew B. Tepper 4/23/12 7:04 PM
whiskynsplash <whisky...@yahoo.com> appears to have caused the
following letters to be typed in
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> Weird little weasel named James Rhodes on the Delirium Tremens blogged
> this:
>
> Musical Viagra: how a young Korean pianist made me fall in love with
> Beethoven all over again
> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/jamesrhodes/100062524/musical-viagra
> -how-a-young-korean-pianist-made-me-fall-in-love-with-beethoven-all-over-
> again/
>
> "This is playing that does everything one could possibly want and so
> much more – it is the musical equivalent of Viagra, restoring passion,
> lust and hunger for an old lover – something the classical music
> industry is desperately in need of.  It forces you to listen to this
> music as if for the very first time, rediscovering everything that is
> great about it – like being married for 30 years and suddenly one
> morning waking up and seeing your wife miraculously transformed back
> into the smoking hot 20-something you first met and remembering how
> impossibly lucky you are to be with her"

That is just icky.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Wiser 4/23/12 7:14 PM
"Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:XnsA03EC2159A0C2quackandflap@216.168.3.70...
> whiskynsplash <whisky...@yahoo.com> appears to have caused the
> following letters to be typed in
> news:7bb0834b-29fa-4414-b775-1937247215fe@i18g2000vbx.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Weird little weasel named James Rhodes on the Delirium Tremens blogged
>> this:
>>
>> Musical Viagra: how a young Korean pianist made me fall in love with
>> Beethoven all over again
>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/jamesrhodes/100062524/musical-viagra
>> -how-a-young-korean-pianist-made-me-fall-in-love-with-beethoven-all-over-
>> again/
>>
>> "This is playing that does everything one could possibly want and so
>> much more - it is the musical equivalent of Viagra, restoring passion,
>> lust and hunger for an old lover - something the classical music
>> industry is desperately in need of.  It forces you to listen to this
>> music as if for the very first time, rediscovering everything that is
>> great about it - like being married for 30 years and suddenly one
>> morning waking up and seeing your wife miraculously transformed back
>> into the smoking hot 20-something you first met and remembering how
>> impossibly lucky you are to be with her"
>
> That is just icky.
>

Authoritative pronouncement
from a Master of Ick. Got it right, though.

JDW

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Thomas 4/23/12 9:02 PM
On Apr 23, 3:33 pm, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 6:29 pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 23, 12:30 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:> John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
> > > letters to be typed in news:1248d3ff-f4ec-403d-a838-c1ac2f292be9
> > > @ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > > Unless H J Lim is a real cutie with great legs and no underwear this
> > > > project is doomed to linger.
>
> > > Do a Google image search on her name.
>
> > Thanks for the suggestion.  Don't know about her underwear but even
> > fully clothed she definitely shows signs of having the kind of talent
> > that sells CD's these days.  I suspect the mousse haired morons at EMI
> > know exactly what they're doing.
>
> I don't know any "mousse-haired morons" at EMI. Whom might you be
> speaking about? Or is your comment as gratuitous a slur as the average
> Tepper spew?
>
> TD

My reply was directed to Mr Tepper, not you.  Nobody asked you to read
it, much less critique it.
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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Bozo 4/24/12 3:31 AM
>On Apr 23, 8:37 pm, whiskynsplash <whiskynspl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Weird little weasel named James Rhodes on the Delirium Tremens blogged
> this:
>
> Musical Viagra: how a young Korean pianist made me fall in love with
> Beethoven all over againhttp://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/jamesrhodes/100062524/musical-vi...

James Rhodes :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO96rn16Fs
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Nick Sun 4/24/12 4:41 AM
On Apr 23, 8:15 pm, Thornhill <seth.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2:26 pm, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I just got a press release about a Korean pianist, HJ Lim, who has
> > recorded all of Beethoven's piano sonatas. What is unique here is this:
>
> > "EMI will release Lim’s Complete Beethoven Sonatas on the iTunes Music
> > Store for only $9.99, a strategy commonly used with compilations, but
> > never with a new release until now. A Yamaha exclusive artist, HJ was
> > also the first to record
> > the complete sonatas on a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano, the crown
> > jewel of their remarkable piano collection."
>
> > That's certainly a very aggresive approach.
>
> > The booklet for the set can be seen here:
>
> >http://issuu.com/emiclasiscsus/docs/hj_lim_-_complete_beethoven_sonat...
>
> > Amazon
>
> > only lists one 2-disc set of these so far:
>
> >http://amzn.to/ItMkni
>
> > I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> > music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> > that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> > Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> > in digital format.
>
> MDT lists the 8-disc CD box for $46.76
>
> http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/NR_May12_Classical/4649522.htm
>
> Other recent complete recordings having been released at that price
> point.
>
> The Rudolf Buchbinder 9-disc set which just came out was priced at
> $48:
>
> http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//88697875102.htm
>
> Harmonia Mundi also quickly released the Paul Lewis recordings at a
> budget price:
>
> http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//HMX2901902-11.htm

Stewart Goodyear has also completed recording the whole 32 Beethoven
Sonata, so far two set of 4CD's are already out. He IS far better a
player than Lim, but very few people seemed to notice him either. BTW,
Mr Goodyear is going to give a Beethoven Sonata Marathon on June 9, at
the Royal Conservatory in Toronto, whole day long! :-)

http://www.toronto.com/article/723675--stewart-goodyear-will-play-all-of-beethoven-s-sonatas-in-luminato-marathon
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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Bozo 4/24/12 4:57 AM
>On Apr 24, 6:41 am, Nick Sun <xiaowu...@email.msn.com> wrote:

> Stewart Goodyear has also completed recording the whole 32 Beethoven
> Sonata, so far two set of 4CD's are already out. He IS far better a
> player than Lim, but very few people seemed to notice him either.

Agreed , Goodyear one to watch. Mentioned here a few years ago, in the
Ravel G ?

Dufus
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas basnperson 4/24/12 5:02 AM
On Apr 23, 8:59 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "td" <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 23, 7:14 pm, basnperson <abachr...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [BIG SNIP]>
> >> dont underestimate this lady........ the last movt of the "Adieux" is
> >> very impressive. Huge technique but a penchant for playing too fast
> >> at times on other examples on youtube. We shall see.
> > She may have good technique. But how would you know without giving her
> > a trial period?
>
> Hey, Tomasito! we're just listening to her, we aren't gonna marry her.
>
> JDW

hear she has the hots for "Leakin Deacon".

AB
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Willem Orange 4/24/12 5:38 AM
 Leakin is such a piano queen.

Wagner fan
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas laraine 4/24/12 9:50 AM
On Apr 23, 9:04 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> Yep, what a miserable time it must be for non-photogenic performers.
> Someone like Clara Haskil could never have gotten started nowadays.

She looked kind of glamorous when
young, though.

It seems there are now basically two
main audiences for classical music
--youth and seniors. So once performers
are past youthful, they need to maintain
or develop personality.

If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
perhaps that is what some of the hype is
about. I imagine lots of females could do
it, though.

C.


>
> --
> Matthew B. Tepper:  WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!!
> Read about "Proty" here:http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/proty.html
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> Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of my employers.



Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Thomas 4/24/12 12:14 PM
On Apr 24, 9:50 am, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> about. I imagine lots of females could do
> it, though.
>


  So Annie Fischer was...what?
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Gerard 4/24/12 12:20 PM
John Thomas <abras...@gmail.com> typed:
Have they never told you the truth?
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Wiser 4/24/12 1:08 PM
"Gerard" <ghend-nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44a11$4f96fccd$5356543a$13640@cache70.multikabel.net...
A cardboard replica!

JDW

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/24/12 1:34 PM
On Apr 23, 8:59 pm, "John Wiser" <ceec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "td" <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> On Apr 23, 7:14 pm, basnperson <abachr...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [BIG SNIP]>
> >> dont underestimate this lady........ the last movt of the "Adieux" is
> >> very impressive. Huge technique but a penchant for playing too fast
> >> at times on other examples on youtube. We shall see.
> > She may have good technique. But how would you know without giving her
> > a trial period?
>
> Hey, Tomasito! we're just listening to her, we aren't gonna marry her.

You may be listening to her. I am not.

TD

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/24/12 1:36 PM
On Apr 23, 10:04 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
> letters to be typed in news:88347f58-2e43-483c-a99f-
> 3a34208b8...@w6g2000pbp.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Apr 23, 12:30 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
> >> letters to be typed in news:1248d3ff-f4ec-403d-a838-c1ac2f292be9
> >> @ns1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > Unless H J Lim is a real cutie with great legs and no underwear this
> >> > project is doomed to linger.
>
> >> Do a Google image search on her name.
>
> > Thanks for the suggestion.  Don't know about her underwear but even
> > fully clothed she definitely shows signs of having the kind of talent
> > that sells CD's these days.  I suspect the mousse haired morons at EMI
> > know exactly what they're doing.
>
> Yep, what a miserable time it must be for non-photogenic performers.
> Someone like Clara Haskil could never have gotten started nowadays.

Did she actually get started?

I thought she just died and became a legend.

TD

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/24/12 1:38 PM
On Apr 24, 7:41 am, Nick Sun <xiaowu...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 8:15 pm, Thornhill <seth.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 23, 2:26 pm, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:
>
> > > I just got a press release about a Korean pianist, HJ Lim, who has
> > > recorded all of Beethoven's piano sonatas. What is unique here is this:
>
> > > "EMI will release Lim’s Complete Beethoven Sonatas on the iTunes Music
> > > Store for only $9.99, a strategy commonly used with compilations, but
> > > never with a new release until now. A Yamaha exclusive artist, HJ was
> > > also the first to record
> > > the complete sonatas on a Yamaha CFX concert grand piano, the crown
> > > jewel of their remarkable piano collection."
>
> > > That's certainly a very aggresive approach.
>
> > > The booklet for the set can be seen here:
>
> > >http://issuu.com/emiclasiscsus/docs/hj_lim_-_complete_beethoven_sonat...
>
> > > Amazon
>
> > > only lists one 2-disc set of these so far:
>
> > >http://amzn.to/ItMkni
>
> > > I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> > > music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> > > that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> > > Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> > > in digital format.
>
> > MDT lists the 8-disc CD box for $46.76
>
> >http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product/NR_May12_Classical/4649522.htm
>
> > Other recent complete recordings having been released at that price
> > point.
>
> > The Rudolf Buchbinder 9-disc set which just came out was priced at
> > $48:
>
> >http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//88697875102.htm
>
> > Harmonia Mundi also quickly released the Paul Lewis recordings at a
> > budget price:
>
> >http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/product//HMX2901902-11.htm
>
> Stewart Goodyear has also completed recording the whole 32 Beethoven
> Sonata, so far two set of 4CD's are already out. He IS far better a
> player than Lim, but very few people seemed to notice him either. BTW,
> Mr Goodyear is going to give a Beethoven Sonata Marathon on June 9, at
> the Royal Conservatory in Toronto, whole day long! :-)
>
> http://www.toronto.com/article/723675--stewart-goodyear-will-play-all...

Got my tickets already!

Go, Stewart, go!

TD
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/24/12 1:39 PM
On Apr 24, 12:50 pm, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 9:04 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yep, what a miserable time it must be for non-photogenic performers.
> > Someone like Clara Haskil could never have gotten started nowadays.
>
> She looked kind of glamorous when
> young, though.
>
> It seems there are now basically two
> main audiences for classical music
> --youth and seniors. So once performers
> are past youthful, they need to maintain
> or develop personality.
>
> If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> about.

So what was Maria Grinberg? An elephant?

TD

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/24/12 1:34 PM
On Apr 23, 8:49 pm, basnperson <abachr...@att.net> wrote:
> On Apr 23, 8:17 pm, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 23, 7:14 pm, basnperson <abachr...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 23, 2:55 pm, Mark S <markstenr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 23, 11:26 am, Kirk McElhearn <kirkmc (at) mac (dot) com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I wonder if this can work. Will people who don't usually buy classical
> > > > > music go for a complete set of Beethoven sonatas? And out of the $7
> > > > > that EMI gets from this set, how much will they net?
>
> > > > > Interesting times, to see a major label make such a low-priced release
> > > > > in digital format.
>
> > > > The fact that Lim (who is for all intents and purposes an unknown
> > > > quantity) has been entrusted with the complete Beethoven sonatas on a
> > > > major label sends up a big red flag. Those kind of things didn't
> > > > happen when the record labels were flush with cash at the height of
> > > > the CD age. What are the chances it would happen today, especially at
> > > > EMI, which is currently being auctioned off to the highest bidder?
>
> > > > From the looks of it, I would guess that someone besides EMI is
> > > > bankrolling this project, perhaps a patron of the pianist who has deep
> > > > enough pockets to pay EMI whatever they wanted, thus allowing some
> > > > promoter to add prestige to Lim's name. Ergo, EMI has probably made
> > > > what they're going to make from what looks to me like a pay-to-play
> > > > arrangement.
>
> > > dont underestimate this lady........ the last movt of the "Adieux"  is
> > > very impressive.  Huge technique but a penchant for playing too fast
> > > at times on other examples on youtube. We shall see.
>
> > She may have good technique. But how would you know without giving her
> > a trial period?
>
> > TD
>
> agreed, so lets give her some time.

You're the one who needs time. To get it up!!!

TD

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas laraine 4/24/12 4:20 PM
She would be an "if not".

There are a lot of sf in Beethoven
that one has to deal with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7-Q5MH6hFE&feature=related

C.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas laraine 4/24/12 4:22 PM
On Apr 24, 2:14 pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 9:50 am, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>
>
> > If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> > a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> > perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> > about. I imagine lots of females could do
> > it, though.
>
>   So Annie Fischer was...what?

She would be a female who could do
something musical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC0r1nirF3o

C.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas laraine 4/24/12 4:37 PM
On Apr 24, 6:20 pm, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 3:39 pm, td <tomdedea...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 24, 12:50 pm, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 23, 9:04 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Yep, what a miserable time it must be for non-photogenic performers.
> > > > Someone like Clara Haskil could never have gotten started nowadays.
>
> > > She looked kind of glamorous when
> > > young, though.
>
> > > It seems there are now basically two
> > > main audiences for classical music
> > > --youth and seniors. So once performers
> > > are past youthful, they need to maintain
> > > or develop personality.
>
> > > If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> > > a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> > > perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> > > about.
>
> > So what was Maria Grinberg? An elephant?
>
> > TD
>
> She would be an "if not".
>
> There are a lot of sf in Beethoven
> that one has to deal with.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7-Q5MH6hFE&feature=related
>
> C.

While we're at it, let's bring up H.J Lim
playing 3rd mov't of Adieux:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFcrTycJlD0

It reminds me a bit of myself as a kid
playing Clementi sonatinas as fast
as possible just for fun. (You can't do
that with Mozart.)

But I can't say that it doesn't work in
some ways.

C.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas whiskynsplash 4/24/12 4:40 PM
On Apr 24, 6:22 pm, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 2:14 pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 24, 9:50 am, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > > If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> > > a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> > > perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> > > about. I imagine lots of females could do
> > > it, though.
>
> >   So Annie Fischer was...what?
>
> She would be a female who could do
> something musical.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC0r1nirF3o
>
> C.

Another lesser-known female pianist who recorded all the Beethoven
sonatas is Anne Oland.
http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=136815
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Matthew B. Tepper 4/24/12 5:53 PM
whiskynsplash <whisky...@yahoo.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:d1c6d520-9bb4-426c-96e6-
76cf29...@f17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:

> Another lesser-known female pianist who recorded all the Beethoven
> sonatas is Anne Oland.

So that makes three, along with Annie Fischer and Maria Grinberg.

Still, the way things are these days, EMI *could* claim that HJ Lim was the
first female pianist to record all the Beethoven sonatas, and the press would
just copy this remark and go ah-yup-yup-yup-yup-yup, she shore is, guh-hyilk.  
Perhaps critics in Fanfare and ARG would point out the error, but most people
wouldn't see that and would just believe it.  Ka-ching!  Sales for EMI.

It appears that the anonymous Amazon reviewer claims she is the first.  Where
did that come from, if not from EMI?  Or maybe he/she just assumed it?
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas graham 4/24/12 5:55 PM

"laraine" <lara...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:858b45d2-d3e8-4775-87df-7ebe5e7162ff@g38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 24, 2:14 pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 9:50 am, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>
>
> > If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> > a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> > perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> > about. I imagine lots of females could do
> > it, though.
>
> So Annie Fischer was...what?

She would be a female who could do
something musical.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC0r1nirF3o
-------------------------------------------------------------
Or like this lady:
http://tv.liberoquotidiano.it/video/105797/Donna-suona-Beethoven-con-le-chiappe.html


Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Thomas 4/24/12 10:21 PM
On Apr 24, 12:14 pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 9:50 am, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>
>
> > If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> > a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> > perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> > about. I imagine lots of females could do
> > it, though.
>
>   So Annie Fischer was...what?

Come to think of it, though I've never heard any of her CD's and I
don't believe they were ever collected into a set, Tatiana Nikolayeva
did record all the sonatas.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Miguel Montfort 4/24/12 11:18 PM
John Thomas wrote:

> Come to think of it, though I've never heard any of her CD's
> and I don't believe they were ever collected into a set,
> Tatiana Nikolayeva did record all the sonatas.

Actually, there have been at least three sets featuring
Nikolayeva’s live traversal from 1983:

* Olympia – individual CDs (OCD 561-569, 1994) and as two
5CD sets, (OCD 5010 & 5011, 1996) including opp. 35, 120 &
WoO 80

* Deutsche Schallplaten who apparently licensed the
Olympia material in 1994/95 – individual CDs (DS 1101-06 &
1160-62)

* Scribendum – a 9CD set (SC036, 2002)

Miguel Montfort
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Herman 4/25/12 12:08 AM
On 25 avr, 08:18, Miguel Montfort <op...@web.de> wrote:
> John Thomas wrote:
> > Come to think of it, though I've never heard any of her CD's
> > and I don't believe they were ever collected into a set,
> > Tatiana Nikolayeva did record all the sonatas.
>
> Actually, there have been at least three sets featuring
> Nikolayeva’s live traversal from 1983:


And yet, when Nikolayeva's set came out, there was precious little
speculation about whether she was wearing underwear or not, as in the
case of Lim.

How come?
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas td 4/25/12 2:15 AM
She had clearly gone through the menopause.

TD
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Bozo 4/25/12 5:49 AM
>On Apr 24, 5:31 am, Dufus <steveha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> James Rhodes :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naO96rn16Fs

Rhodes'  might be a set to wait for, if he has the attention span ,
practices, and lives long enough :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LxF27T5Uss      ( Op.31,# 3, Scherzo )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27btQJaXCsE      ( Op.109, first mov. )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ayD3BjplY&feature=relmfu  ( Op.
109,final )
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas basnperson 4/25/12 9:06 AM
On Apr 24, 8:55 pm, "graham" <g.ste...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> "laraine" <larai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:858b45d2-d3e8-4775-87df-7ebe5e7162ff@g38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 24, 2:14 pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 24, 9:50 am, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > > If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> > > a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> > > perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> > > about. I imagine lots of females could do
> > > it, though.
>
> > So Annie Fischer was...what?
>
> She would be a female who could do
> something musical.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC0r1nirF3o
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Or like this lady:http://tv.liberoquotidiano.it/video/105797/Donna-suona-Beethoven-con-...

hysterical........

AB
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas John Thomas 4/25/12 2:53 PM
Actually, no one mentioned underwear re: Lim other than me, and that
was only a joke based on some comments in the long thread about Yuja
Wang and her very short skirt.  Apologies to Ms Lim if it was taken as
a tasteless insult, which it was not meant to be..
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Norman Schwartz 4/26/12 7:41 AM
Disgusting and hysterical. (Marcia Clark claimed "hysterical" was a sexist
term. Judge Ito backed her.)
http://articles.nydailynews.com/1995-05-26/news/17962169_1_juror-airtight-alibi-ronald-goldman

> AB


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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Willem Orange 4/26/12 2:49 PM
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:00:24 -0700 (PDT), gert <g...@gerriecollins.com>
wrote:
  Good for her - maybe if she was that smart as a prosecutor Simpson
would not have gotten off.  Wagner fan
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Andrew Ousley 5/21/12 9:38 AM
On Apr 24, 8:53 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
> whiskynsplash <whiskynspl...@yahoo.com> appears to have caused the following
> letters to be typed in news:d1c6d520-9bb4-426c-96e6-
> 76cf29399...@f17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Another lesser-known female pianist who recorded all the Beethoven
> > sonatas is Anne Oland.
>
> So that makes three, along with Annie Fischer and Maria Grinberg.
>
> Still, the way things are these days, EMI *could* claim thatHJLimwas the
> first female pianist to record all the Beethoven sonatas, and the press would
> just copy this remark and go ah-yup-yup-yup-yup-yup, she shore is, guh-hyilk.
> Perhaps critics in Fanfare and ARG would point out the error, but most people
> wouldn't see that and would just believe it.  Ka-ching!  Sales for EMI.
>
> It appears that the anonymous Amazon reviewer claims she is the first.  Where
> did that come from, if not from EMI?  Or maybe he/she just assumed it?
>
> --
> Matthew B. Tepper:  WWW, science fiction, classical music, ducks!!
> Read about "Proty" here:http://home.earthlink.net/~oy/proty.html
> To write to me, do for my address what Androcles did for the lion
> Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of my employers.


Just to clarify a few things from this thread:

1) EMI didn't post any "fake" reviews of this on Amazon

2) We're fans of the Nikolayeva complete, and would never
intentionally spread misinformation in order to increase sales

3) There is no "mystery patron" for this release.

4) We think Ms Lim is a unique talent both in terms of technical
abilities and approach to playing, as well as her deep personal
immersion in and reflection on the music she plays. We support her and
promote this release because believe in her music and vision and want
to spread that to as many people as possible.

5) We don't wear any mousse in our hair.

Regards,
EMI Classics US

Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Matthew B. Tepper 5/21/12 9:16 PM
Andrew Ousley <emicla...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the
following letters to be typed in
news:7c22977f-3191-4efd-b668-c4581b932fd1@st3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 24, 8:53 pm, "Matthew B. Tepper" <oyþ@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> whiskynsplash <whiskynspl...@yahoo.com> appears to have caused the
>> following letters to be typed in news:d1c6d520-9bb4-426c-96e6-
>> 76cf29399...@f17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Another lesser-known female pianist who recorded all the Beethoven
>> > sonatas is Anne Oland.
>>
>> So that makes three, along with Annie Fischer and Maria Grinberg.
>>
>> Still, the way things are these days, EMI *could* claim that HJLim was
>> the first female pianist to record all the Beethoven sonatas, and the
>> press would just copy this remark and go ah-yup-yup-yup-yup-yup, she
>> shore is, guh-hyilk. Perhaps critics in Fanfare and ARG would point out
>> the error, but most people wouldn't see that and would just believe it.
>> Ka-ching!  Sales for EMI.
>>
>> It appears that the anonymous Amazon reviewer claims she is the first.
>> Where did that come from, if not from EMI?  Or maybe he/she just
>> assumed it?
>
>
> Just to clarify a few things from this thread:
>
> 1) EMI didn't post any "fake" reviews of this on Amazon
>
> 2) We're fans of the Nikolayeva complete, and would never intentionally
> spread misinformation in order to increase sales
>
> 3) There is no "mystery patron" for this release.
>
> 4) We think Ms Lim is a unique talent both in terms of technical
> abilities and approach to playing, as well as her deep personal
> immersion in and reflection on the music she plays. We support her and
> promote this release because believe in her music and vision and want
> to spread that to as many people as possible.
>
> 5) We don't wear any mousse in our hair.
>
> Regards,
> EMI Classics US

Thank you for the factual corrections.  I certainly jumped the gun in
thinking that EMI had anything to do with the misinformation spread by the
anonymous Amazon reviewer, and I both retract my remarks to that effect and
apologize for them.
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Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Randy Lane 5/21/12 10:28 PM
On Apr 24, 12:14 pm, John Thomas <abrasax...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 24, 9:50 am, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>
>
> > If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> > a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> > perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> > about. I imagine lots of females could do
> > it, though.
>
>   So Annie Fischer was...what?

And there's Idil Biret.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Herman 5/21/12 11:58 PM
On 22 mai, 07:28, Randy Lane <randy.l...@gmail.com> wrote:


>
> >   So Annie Fischer was...what?
>
> And there's Idil Biret.

Well, focus on that part.

Clearly the critical point was about the mousse, or rather the absence
thereof.

I take it Mr Tepper is going into rehab for the rest of the year.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas kirkmc 5/22/12 4:51 AM
Your 5-star review on the iTunes Store may not be fake - you've used the name "EMIClassics" - but it's still a bit lame.

Just saying...
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas Matthew B. Tepper 5/22/12 7:23 AM
Oscar <oscaredwar...@gmail.com> appears to have caused the following
letters to be typed in news:1fdb4ac1-afac-413c-a43d-87e3c6125ee0
@r4g2000pbf.googlegroups.com:

> On May 21, 9:16ápm, Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
>>
>> > 5) We don't wear any mousse in our hair.
>>
>> Thank you for the factual corrections. áI certainly jumped the gun in
>> thinking that EMI had anything to do with the misinformation spread by the
>> anonymous Amazon reviewer, and I both retract my remarks to that effect
>> and apologize for them.
>
> Wow!  Next thing I know you're going to tell me Ofra Harnoy does _not_
> look like Pia Zadora!! ;-))

Nah, I still have SOME pride.

And just because some EMI PR people don't wear mousse in their hair doesn't
mean that nobody in the whole business does.
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas dk 1/23/14 12:13 AM
On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:39:24 PM UTC-7, td wrote:
> On Apr 24, 12:50 pm, laraine <larai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If Ms. Lim is the first female to do
> > a complete Beethoven sonata cycle,
> > perhaps that is what some of the hype is
> > about.
>
> So what was Maria Grinberg? An elephant?

She did play like one -- sometimes.

Seriously, if one is looking for a good
counter example, Annie Fischer would be
a better choice. I also have a faint
recollection of one of the French
women pianists having recorded the
complete set, though I do not remember
exactly who. Catherine Collard maybe?

Come to think of it, didn't Anne-Rose
Schmidt record the full set for Eterna?

Tatyana Nikolaieva?

Cheers,

dk
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas dk 1/23/14 12:14 AM
On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:53:21 PM UTC-7, Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
>
> > Another lesser-known female pianist who recorded all the Beethoven
> > sonatas is Anne Oland.
>
> So that makes three, along with Annie Fischer and Maria Grinberg.

Tatyana Nikolaieva too.
Probably Anne-Rose Schmidt.
Cheers,
dk
Re: HJ Lim Beethoven piano sonatas dk 1/23/14 12:22 AM
On Monday, May 21, 2012 9:16:29 PM UTC-7, Matthew B. Tepper wrote:
>
> Thank you for the factual corrections.  I certainly jumped the gun in
> thinking that EMI had anything to do with the misinformation spread by the
> anonymous Amazon reviewer, and I both retract my remarks to that effect and
> apologize for them.
>

Bravo!
Looks like during the few years I wasn't watching you
learned at least how to apologize. Slow progress, though
progress nevertheless.
Cheers,
dk
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