"beautiful" ADF sites

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"beautiful" ADF sites bex 8/6/12 5:36 PM

I have a client who is convinced that ADF can't be 'beautiful'. I know I can always embed jQuery into an ADF page to pretty it up a bit, or add fancy animations, but I'd like to come up with proof that it can be done. Unfortunately, most of my ADF work is pretty utilitarian.

Does anybody have a public example of a pretty ADF site that does not use jQuery? Just the skinning ability?

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites agawish 8/6/12 5:39 PM
Try www.baesystems.com


On Tuesday, August 7, 2012, Brian Huff wrote:

I have a client who is convinced that ADF can't be 'beautiful'. I know I can always embed jQuery into an ADF page to pretty it up a bit, or add fancy animations, but I'd like to come up with proof that it can be done. Unfortunately, most of my ADF work is pretty utilitarian.

Does anybody have a public example of a pretty ADF site that does not use jQuery? Just the skinning ability?

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Mark Robinson 8/6/12 5:49 PM
http://gis.cuyahogacounty.us/mycuyahoga/faces/MyCuyahoga.jspx

It's really how much time/money you want to dump into skinning.

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Chris Muir 8/6/12 5:55 PM
Arguably I think Bex's question is not for a list of ADF websites, but
rather ADF websites that "look good".

It's a somewhat hard question to answer because often beauty is in the
eye of the beholder? ... or in the eye of the poor developer who spent
months trying to get the thing to look nice.

For the record BAE uses jquery.

Point being jquery provides many of the graphical elements of modern web
solutions that aren't a part of ADF's repertoire.

I do agree that most ADF applications do look utilitarian through the
nature of the type of application the framework aims to hit: data entry
with tables, columns, fields, not pictures and graphics.  The only
escape is maybe the DVT controls, but overall you're looking at lots of
textual data IMHO (Fusion Apps certainly tries to break this mold ...
obviously you have experience with this Bex).

The upcoming Skyros skin to my eye tightens up the look and feel of ADF
applications.  Screen shots of Fusion Apps look good to me running
Skyros, but there's still that we're-laying-out-columns-of-data feel
which looks more spreadsheet/Oracle Forms like than a contemporary
website that has the liberty of showing graphics/pictures etc.

 From experience customers do have an opportunity to provide more
visually pleasing applications, but most default to lots of columns n
fields, breaking out of the "enterprise look and feel" does appear to be
hard.

CM.


RE:[ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Shay Shmeltzer 8/6/12 5:58 PM
Take a look at some of the screenshots in profiles here

Shay

Brian Huff <b...@bezzotech.com> wrote:

I have a client who is convinced that ADF can't be 'beautiful'. I know I can always embed jQuery into an ADF page to pretty it up a bit, or add fancy animations, but I'd like to come up with proof that it can be done. Unfortunately, most of my ADF work is pretty utilitarian.

Does anybody have a public example of a pretty ADF site that does not use jQuery? Just the skinning ability?

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Chad Thompson 8/6/12 6:45 PM

On Aug 6, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Chris Muir <chris...@gmail.com> wrote:

From experience customers do have an opportunity to provide more visually pleasing applications, but most default to lots of columns n fields, breaking out of the "enterprise look and feel" does appear to be hard.


Considering that Microsoft essentially prints money with each release of Microsoft Office (Word/Excel), there is a certain sweet spot between applications with striking visual design and applications designed to push a lot of data.

It seems that "ADF" itself struggles to be beautiful (I try to at least size up the fonts to be a little more readable where I can)  - but ADF does a great job with being the type of web framework that makes dealing with a lot of data rather simple and easy for users.

In the web design case of designing a page to 'sell a message' to visitors and/or the public, I agree that ADF Faces as designed to be 'data-centric' might not be the right choice to emphasize content elements and interactive features as part of public web presence.

One thing I've not experimented with as of yet - and am curious to know if anyone else has experience doing this - is to use JSF libraries that are designed with more interactivity and public web presence in mind.  For example, has anyone integrated user components from a library like PrimeFaces (http://primefaces.org) into an ADF application?

PrimeFaces in particular includes the more JQuery-ish (if not implemented from JQuery into PrimeFaces) components like image light boxes, breadcrumbs, mega-menus, CAPTCHA,  etc.  As a JSF library, I wouldn't see why including another JSF UI library wouldn't work - but then again, i haven't tried combining the two approaches.

Has anyone tried including other JSF libraries into ADF applications?

- Chad

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites agawish 8/6/12 7:10 PM
I believe the case of having beautiful web application lies not only on the user interface in front of user, but also the markup behind this User Interface, the HTML DOM Structure, the well formed CSS and the right amount of JS.

And since ADF HTML markup is a little bit messy, true beauty of ADF application cannot be reached!
Maybe in the next release when JSF uses renderer for HTML5 or at least to stop using tables everywhere in the page.

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Aziz Acar 8/6/12 7:20 PM
Hi Brian,

Your client is wrongo! With a bit of ADF skinning ADF sites can look quite magnificent.
On a recent project that I worked on we had a UI designer team from a company called NAVY design the whole thing regardless of what technology was being used. We then made the application comply to the design specs using ADF skinning/CSS. So with enough skinning expertise you can pretty much make it look like anything. ADF Skin Editor is a valuable tool for effective ADF skinnning.

Although you won't be able to login (registration is by private invitation only) you can still click the "Sign up to healthbook button" to see the registration page.

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Chris Muir 8/6/12 7:48 PM
AziZ, are there any screenshots you can show/release of the application
internally please?

CM.

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> Hi Brian,
>
> Your client is wrongo! With a bit of ADF skinning ADF sites can look
> quite magnificent.
> On a recent project that I worked on we had a UI designer team from a
> company called NAVY design the whole thing regardless of what technology
> was being used. We then made the application comply to the design specs
> using ADF skinning/CSS. So with enough skinning expertise you can pretty
> much make it look like anything. ADF Skin Editor is a valuable tool for
> effective ADF skinnning.
>
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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Aziz Acar 8/6/12 9:14 PM
Hi Chris,

I can do but will first have to run it by client to make sure they're ok with it. 
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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites John Flack 8/7/12 6:13 AM
Our client's ADF 10g site, http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/MHTreatmentLocator/ uses Apache MyFaces Tomahawk in a few pages (the selection by State, and the Select Services page).  But I have to admit that it was tough to get this to work in 10g because ADF Faces 10g doesn't play well with others.  We're experimenting with other JSF libraries using Facelets in 11gR2, and it is working a lot better.  Still a bit quirky- hard to use the page designer - you have to tell it not to bother trying to render the foreign components, and it sometimes marks errors that aren't errors.  But it does work, and it looks good.

On Monday, August 6, 2012 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Chad Thompson wrote:

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Has anyone tried including other JSF libraries into ADF applications?

- Chad


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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Rutwik Chandorkar 8/7/12 7:40 PM
One of my ex-clients website built using ADF 10g skinning to extreme with just little bit of jQuery thrown-in for some special effects here and there and a home grown CAPTCHA: 
https://portal.accaglobal.com/irxweb/bespokeredirect/faces/page/public/irx/IRXCreateAccount.jspx?qualification=ACCA_QUAL&country=GB



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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Aziz Acar 8/8/12 6:43 AM
Hi Saif,

In essence ADF skinning boils down to CSS. The real trick is trying and figure the psuedo elements of rich components, and to get on top of that you really need to use Oacle ADF Skin Editor (free download compliments of Oracle about 450 MB).
Go through a few of the Oracle tutorials/examples regarding skinning, this will show you how to over-ride the default ADF skin with your custom skin.
And then once you're comfortable with that you should look at creating your own CSS file within that skin.
And then use ADF Skin editor to figure out how to change look'n'feel of rich components.

ORACLE SKIN EDITOR is your friend when it comes to skinning b/c it allows you to discover pseudo elements of an adf rich component that you would otherwise have great difficulty in figuring out.

Cheers, AA


On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Saif Kamaal <saifk...@gmail.com> wrote:
All,

I tried for a fancy look and feel so went to integrate primefaces but couldn't for a nos of reasons. Anyways going back on the topic skinning knowledge is very much required for public facing portals.

May be we need a book on skinning, What say ?

thnks
Kamaal



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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Dinil Mithra 8/8/12 9:05 AM

Oracle ADF Faces Skin Editor Link
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/adf/downloads/index.html 

Demo
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/111demos/ADFSkinEditor/ADFSkinEditor.html 

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Shay Shmeltzer 8/8/12 9:57 AM
A few other resources:

How to work with the skin editor:
https://blogs.oracle.com/shay/entry/adf_faces_skin_editor_how

ADF Insider about skinning:
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/11gdemos/adf-insider-skinning/adf-insider-skinning.html

Many other skin related blogs here:
http://www.connotea.org/user/jdeveloper/tag/skinning

Shay


On 8/8/2012 9:05 AM, Dinil Mithra V S wrote:

Oracle ADF Faces Skin Editor Link
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/adf/downloads/index.html�

Demo
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/111demos/ADFSkinEditor/ADFSkinEditor.html�

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Aziz Acar <azizac...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Saif,

In essence ADF skinning boils down to CSS. The real trick is trying and figure the psuedo elements of rich components, and to get on top of that you really need to use Oacle ADF Skin Editor (free download compliments of Oracle about 450 MB).
Go through a few of the Oracle tutorials/examples regarding skinning, this will show you how to over-ride the default ADF skin with your custom skin.
And then once you're comfortable with that you should look at creating your own CSS file within that skin.
And then use ADF Skin editor to figure out how to change look'n'feel of rich components.

ORACLE SKIN EDITOR is your friend when it comes to skinning b/c it allows you to discover pseudo elements of an adf rich component that you would otherwise have great difficulty in figuring out.

Cheers, AA


On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Saif Kamaal <saifk...@gmail.com> wrote:
All,

I tried for a fancy look and feel so went to integrate primefaces but couldn't for a nos of reasons. Anyways going back on the topic skinning knowledge is very much required for public facing portals.

May be we need a book on skinning, What say ?

thnks
Kamaal


On Wednesday, August 8, 2012 6:40:30 AM UTC+4, Rutwik Chandorkar wrote:
One of my ex-clients website built using ADF 10g skinning to extreme with just little bit of jQuery thrown-in for some special effects here and there and a home grown CAPTCHA:�
https://portal.accaglobal.com/irxweb/bespokeredirect/faces/page/public/irx/IRXCreateAccount.jspx?qualification=ACCA_QUAL&country=GB



On 7 August 2012 18:43, John Flack <Jo...@smdi.com> wrote:
Our client's ADF 10g site, http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/MHTreatmentLocator/ uses Apache MyFaces Tomahawk in a few pages (the selection by State, and the Select Services page).� But I have to admit that it was tough to get this to work in 10g because ADF Faces 10g doesn't play well with others.� We're experimenting with other JSF libraries using Facelets in 11gR2, and it is working a lot better.� Still a bit quirky- hard to use the page designer - you have to tell it not to bother trying to render the foreign components, and it sometimes marks errors that aren't errors.� But it does work, and it looks good.


On Monday, August 6, 2012 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Chad Thompson wrote:

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Has anyone tried including other JSF libraries into ADF applications?

- Chad


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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Srinivas A 8/8/12 1:32 PM
Another one http://www.bengaluruairport.com/ developed on WebCenter 10g, and ADF10g with plenty of 3rd party Web Service integrations, yet with a crisp skinning.

The skinning, look & feel prototype was developed by another vendor, and it stood as benchmark for dev team to build the same in ADF/WebCenter 10g techtsack.

Thanks
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On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Shay Shmeltzer <shay.sh...@oracle.com> wrote:
A few other resources:

How to work with the skin editor:
https://blogs.oracle.com/shay/entry/adf_faces_skin_editor_how

ADF Insider about skinning:
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/11gdemos/adf-insider-skinning/adf-insider-skinning.html

Many other skin related blogs here:
http://www.connotea.org/user/jdeveloper/tag/skinning

Shay


On 8/8/2012 9:05 AM, Dinil Mithra V S wrote:

Oracle ADF Faces Skin Editor Link
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/adf/downloads/index.html 

Demo
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/111demos/ADFSkinEditor/ADFSkinEditor.html 

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Aziz Acar <azizac...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Saif,

In essence ADF skinning boils down to CSS. The real trick is trying and figure the psuedo elements of rich components, and to get on top of that you really need to use Oacle ADF Skin Editor (free download compliments of Oracle about 450 MB).
Go through a few of the Oracle tutorials/examples regarding skinning, this will show you how to over-ride the default ADF skin with your custom skin.
And then once you're comfortable with that you should look at creating your own CSS file within that skin.
And then use ADF Skin editor to figure out how to change look'n'feel of rich components.

ORACLE SKIN EDITOR is your friend when it comes to skinning b/c it allows you to discover pseudo elements of an adf rich component that you would otherwise have great difficulty in figuring out.

Cheers, AA


On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Saif Kamaal <saifk...@gmail.com> wrote:
All,

I tried for a fancy look and feel so went to integrate primefaces but couldn't for a nos of reasons. Anyways going back on the topic skinning knowledge is very much required for public facing portals.

May be we need a book on skinning, What say ?

thnks
Kamaal


On Wednesday, August 8, 2012 6:40:30 AM UTC+4, Rutwik Chandorkar wrote:
One of my ex-clients website built using ADF 10g skinning to extreme with just little bit of jQuery thrown-in for some special effects here and there and a home grown CAPTCHA: 
https://portal.accaglobal.com/irxweb/bespokeredirect/faces/page/public/irx/IRXCreateAccount.jspx?qualification=ACCA_QUAL&country=GB



On 7 August 2012 18:43, John Flack <Jo...@smdi.com> wrote:
Our client's ADF 10g site, http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/MHTreatmentLocator/ uses Apache MyFaces Tomahawk in a few pages (the selection by State, and the Select Services page).  But I have to admit that it was tough to get this to work in 10g because ADF Faces 10g doesn't play well with others.  We're experimenting with other JSF libraries using Facelets in 11gR2, and it is working a lot better.  Still a bit quirky- hard to use the page designer - you have to tell it not to bother trying to render the foreign components, and it sometimes marks errors that aren't errors.  But it does work, and it looks good.


On Monday, August 6, 2012 9:45:03 PM UTC-4, Chad Thompson wrote:

...

Has anyone tried including other JSF libraries into ADF applications?

- Chad


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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Aziz Acar 8/8/12 2:48 PM
Also worth noting that skin editor although available in versions 11.1.2.0,  11.1.2.1 and 11.1.2.2 it does support targeting ADF application releases 11.1.1.4 and 11.1.1.5.
You'll be prompted with the target app release version when creating a new skin project.

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On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Shay Shmeltzer <shay.sh...@oracle.com> wrote:
A few other resources:

How to work with the skin editor:
https://blogs.oracle.com/shay/entry/adf_faces_skin_editor_how

ADF Insider about skinning:
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/11gdemos/adf-insider-skinning/adf-insider-skinning.html

Many other skin related blogs here:
http://www.connotea.org/user/jdeveloper/tag/skinning

Shay


On 8/8/2012 9:05 AM, Dinil Mithra V S wrote:

Oracle ADF Faces Skin Editor Link
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/adf/downloads/index.html 

Demo
http://download.oracle.com/otn_hosted_doc/jdeveloper/111demos/ADFSkinEditor/ADFSkinEditor.html 

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Aziz Acar <azizac...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Saif,

In essence ADF skinning boils down to CSS. The real trick is trying and figure the psuedo elements of rich components, and to get on top of that you really need to use Oacle ADF Skin Editor (free download compliments of Oracle about 450 MB).
Go through a few of the Oracle tutorials/examples regarding skinning, this will show you how to over-ride the default ADF skin with your custom skin.
And then once you're comfortable with that you should look at creating your own CSS file within that skin.
And then use ADF Skin editor to figure out how to change look'n'feel of rich components.

ORACLE SKIN EDITOR is your friend when it comes to skinning b/c it allows you to discover pseudo elements of an adf rich component that you would otherwise have great difficulty in figuring out.

Cheers, AA


On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Saif Kamaal <saifk...@gmail.com> wrote:
All,

I tried for a fancy look and feel so went to integrate primefaces but couldn't for a nos of reasons. Anyways going back on the topic skinning knowledge is very much required for public facing portals.

May be we need a book on skinning, What say ?

thnks
Kamaal


On Wednesday, August 8, 2012 6:40:30 AM UTC+4, Rutwik Chandorkar wrote:
One of my ex-clients website built using ADF 10g skinning to extreme with just little bit of jQuery thrown-in for some special effects here and there and a home grown CAPTCHA: 
https://portal.accaglobal.com/irxweb/bespokeredirect/faces/page/public/irx/IRXCreateAccount.jspx?qualification=ACCA_QUAL&country=GB



On 7 August 2012 18:43, John Flack <Jo...@smdi.com> wrote:
Our client's ADF 10g site, http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/MHTreatmentLocator/ uses Apache MyFaces Tomahawk in a few pages (the selection by State, and the Select Services page).  But I have to admit that it was tough to get this to work in 10g because ADF Faces 10g doesn't play well with others.  We're experimenting with other JSF libraries using Facelets in 11gR2, and it is working a lot better.  Still a bit quirky- hard to use the page designer - you have to tell it not to bother trying to render the foreign components, and it sometimes marks errors that aren't errors.  But it does work, and it looks good.


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Has anyone tried including other JSF libraries into ADF applications?

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Nelson 8/10/12 6:29 AM
Another one: http://www.ccee.org.br/

The site was developed using ADF and Webcenter 11.1.1.5.

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2012/8/10 Hyangelo <hyan...@gmail.com>
Checking the source, this website is using jquery to spruce things up a bit.

e.g.:

jQuery(window).load(function () {
baeLib.common.load();
baeLib.homepage.carousel();
baeLib.homepage.insideEditionInit();
baeLib.homepage.updateContent(0);
});

On Monday, August 6, 2012 8:39:36 PM UTC-4, agawish wrote:
Try www.baesystems.com


On Tuesday, August 7, 2012, Brian Huff wrote:

I have a client who is convinced that ADF can't be 'beautiful'. I know I can always embed jQuery into an ADF page to pretty it up a bit, or add fancy animations, but I'd like to come up with proof that it can be done. Unfortunately, most of my ADF work is pretty utilitarian.

Does anybody have a public example of a pretty ADF site that does not use jQuery? Just the skinning ability?

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites John Flack 8/10/12 9:09 AM
What about af:carousel?  Does jQuery do a better looking carousel?  I'm not sure what a "lightbox" is.
I'm thinking that adding a JSF component library that does what you want, even one that uses jQuery under the surface, is a safer option than extensive direct use of JavaScript.

On Friday, August 10, 2012 9:58:25 AM UTC-4, Hyangelo wrote:
Pretty much all of the sites linked so far are using jQuery one way or another. Common uses are lightboxes and carousels. But hey, no one ever said that you can only use one tool to build a house, right?

Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites bex 8/10/12 10:11 AM

A lightbox is a modal dialog box that dims the browser, and pops the content up in the center of a screen with a floating DIV tag.

It's not so much that jQuery is better looking, it's that it's easier to customize... since it's all in the JavaScript layer, you only need to understand the browser to make things work. Whereas with ADF you need to understand Java, JSP, XML, MVC, and a whole bunch of other things to make a re-usable component.

Yes, you can get into trouble with jQuery if you don't know what you're doing, but that's true of any technology.

I'm getting the feeling that ADF UI Components are best for intranet sites when you need a framework to quickly integrate with Oracle back-end systems... but jQuery (for better or worse) is that standard on web pages (more common than Flash)... so marketing folks will demand either jQuery or something that can do exactly what jQuery does for dot-com public sites. Which means ADF task flows with a jQuery front-end.


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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Shay Shmeltzer 8/10/12 10:21 AM
So the lightbox is basically the equivalent of the ADF Faces dialog?
http://jdevadf.oracle.com/adf-richclient-demo/faces/components/secondaryWindows/dialogCustomAndStandardButtons.jspx
Not sure I see the complexity in the ADF solution for that.

Shay
Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites bex 8/10/12 10:26 AM

Yes, but with a slightly different look and feel:

http://leandrovieira.com/projects/jquery/lightbox/
Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Chad Thompson 8/10/12 10:35 AM

On Aug 10, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Shay Shmeltzer <shay.sh...@oracle.com> wrote:

So the lightbox is basically the equivalent of the ADF Faces dialog?
http://jdevadf.oracle.com/adf-richclient-demo/faces/components/secondaryWindows/dialogCustomAndStandardButtons.jspx
Not sure I see the complexity in the ADF solution for that.

The closest thing that I've seen in terms of ADF components to lightbox is some of the features of the WebCenter Content Presenter.  (Carousels, etc.)

PrimeFaces has a few components that integrate the jQuery functionality into a JSF component, like their lightbox component:


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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Chris Muir 8/11/12 6:43 AM
I think we've got to be careful with our definitions, that we don't pidgeon hole the framework to 1 definition of sites (such as intranet). Intranet data driven & entry applications are ADF's forte for sure, but there's always a blurred line. I'm aware of a large bank who is about to provide their public but secured net bank all in ADF & WebCenter Portal. Bank statements, transferring funds, mortgage graphs, server side security, perfect cannon fodder for ADF components & technology. (For the record their external none secured public website does use jquery)

Arguably you could turn the books on jquery too, and say it's just does the eye candy stuff, but the guts of the application, well in many of the cases people have put forward in this thread, that's ADF under the covers doing the real grunt work. A light box here or fading menu there doesn't make an application. I'm obviously taking this to the other extreme but I think you will understand why (besides Uncle Larry pays my cheques)

Personally I have no issue with both technologies being used together. You pick the right tool*s* to do the job.  One size doesn't fit all (TM).

CM.
Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites keethang 8/15/12 7:27 PM
If we combined to used JQuery and HTML inside ADF/Webcenter application. Is there a common rules for avoiding upcoming errors.

1. Can we used HTML tags inside ADF Faces components.

e.g  <af:outputText value="Email:&nbsp;&lt;a href='mailto:#{pageFlowScope.userBean.dep.businessName}'>#                  {pageFlowScope.memberBean.deptHOD.businessEmail}&lt;/a>"
                           inlineStyle="#{(empty pageFlowScope.emailStyle) ? '' : pageFlowScope.emailStyle}"
                           styleClass="#{(empty pageFlowScope.emailClass) ? '' : pageFlowScope.emailClass}" escape="false"/>

2. ADF Faces/JSF life cycle is different with HTML/Jquery/JavaScript life cycle.How can we define the rules for using the right one at the right place.

3. If we used HTML and JQuery  with ADF/Webcenter application which will be the golden rules for working each components  without error.

*** our current webcenter Intranet application have a lot of error when we deploy to production server which used a lot mixing HTML/JQuery with ADF faces.The project have been developed 8 months before I join there.***

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On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Hyangelo <hyan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well you can't really turn the table on jQuery as it is being used as the javascript foundation library for ADF Faces' competitors(PrimeFaces and JBoss' Rich Faces). It is so ubiquitous that even ADF users end up including the library in their applications. Why? Well sometimes a full-blown JSF component is overkill. Sometimes you have styling requirements that cannot be easily applied to ADF's markup(e.g. you need HTML alterations). 

Don't get me wrong. I think ADF's component set is impressive. But it certainly doesn't cover 100% of the use cases. No one is expecting it to. If we were to limit ourselves only to what is in the ADF component set all the time then we are essentially forgoing a lot of the power of browser-based presentation. Take for instance the ADF carousel. It is a powerful component in that it not only supports image carousels but just about carousels of anything. In other words, the ADF carousel is striving to be a jack of all trades. This is understandable from a framework developer's perspective. You want your component to cover the largest amount of use cases. However, this comes at some tradeoffs. For example, ADF's carousel isn't as great an image carousel as other options that one can freely find. Some examples to look at:


How are these superior image carousels compared to ADF's offering? Well let's see. If we define the requirement to be for an image carousel then functionally, all these carousels, at minimum,  provide the same level of functionality as ADF's carousels. How about aesthetics and customizability? These are by far more 'pretty' and effective as an eye candy than ADF's carousel. The animations choices are varied whereas ADF's has none. The animation even seems smoother. I could go on but I think you get the point.

In our case, we ended up creating 3 or 4 custom ADF components( http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17904_01/web.1111/b31973/ad_custom.htm#CHDJIEDB ). Note that these are full-fledged ADF components not declarative or JSF components. We decided to go this route because what we wanted was to add to the component set and not just a one-off solution. If you must know, these components were input dates(we needed multi-month display date pickers), a 'news ticker' component that cycled through a list of messages, an accordion layout container that supported PPR disclosure. The hardest part was the first component since the documentation isn't exactly crystal clear. All of these components were using jquery(using the js-features approach of adf components).

So yeah, I don't think limiting ourselves to just the things inside ADF's toolbox is a good idea. I even wish that Oracle would embrace the Open-Close* principle for ADF Faces.


*Closed for modification, open for extension.

Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Leon Chen 9/13/12 10:27 AM
Hi Gurus, 

We are creating a WebCenter Portal site.
The customer hired another company to design the UI style which used jQuery and jqtransform.

The UI sample is cool, but after putting to the WebCenter Portal, it is a disaster ....

For example, it is just a simple test, as you can see, the rendered results are very different.
(I also attached the adf code, testPage.jspx , and pure html code, test.html)
Inline image 1


In this thread, I saw many beautiful sites which combined jQuery and ADF. 
Could you share any experience or tips to integrate ADF and jQuery, especially jqtransform? 

Thanks,
Leon
Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Mark Robinson 9/13/12 6:57 PM
In my experience ADF doesn't play well with others.  A better way I've found is to generate a UI using Balsamiq and then implement that using pure ADF.  I would strongly recommend against letting a UI design run wild with Photoshop.  You will end up with a design that looks great on a power point slide but is at best terrible and at worst unimplementable.

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Nelson 9/13/12 8:09 PM
Hi Leon,

I used a lot Jquery and jqtransform in http://www.ccee.org.br/

I have a bad experience using jqtransform, there's a lot of javascript that re-write the HTML code, sometime we need understand exaclty what jqtransform was doing and try reproduce in our HTML code.

If it's possible, I'll recommend to you avoid this.

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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Leon Chen 9/13/12 9:02 PM
Hi Mark and Nelson, 

Really appreciate of you valuable advice.

Best Regards,
Leon
Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Grant Ronald 9/14/12 1:24 AM
+1
We've also released some ADF Faces visio templates so your designers can be working with a knowledge of the component set.
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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites bex 9/14/12 10:15 AM

OMG! I just took a look at Balsamiq and it is AWESOME! Best. Wireframe. Tool. Ever.

Definitely using that going forward for all my projects. Thanks for sharing!


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In my experience ADF doesn't play well with others.  A better way I've found is to generate a UI using Balsamiq and then implement that using pure ADF.  I would strongly recommend against letting a UI design run wild with Photoshop.  You will end up with a design that looks great on a power point slide but is at best terrible and at worst unimplementable.

Mark


Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites rungta...@gmail.com 1/22/13 5:53 PM
Just launched www.panduit.com which uses fat wire and webcenter portal along with ucm and SOA/BPM

Thanks
Manish
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On Friday, September 14, 2012, Brian Huff wrote:

OMG! I just took a look at Balsamiq and it is AWESOME! Best. Wireframe. Tool. Ever.

Definitely using that going forward for all my projects. Thanks for sharing!

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Mark Robinson <mark@mrobinson.ca> wrote:
In my experience ADF doesn't play well with others.  A better way I've found is to generate a UI using Balsamiq and then implement that using pure ADF.  I would strongly recommend against letting a UI design run wild with Photoshop.  You will end up with a design that looks great on a power point slide but is at best terrible and at worst unimplementable.

Mark


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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Bijesh 1/22/13 6:40 PM
Looks interesting Manish. What kind of integration do you have between WC Portal and FatWire (Sites)? Is it limited to Sites links within the portal page template?

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Manish Rungta <rungta...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just launched www.panduit.com which uses fat wire and webcenter portal along with ucm and SOA/BPM

Thanks
Manish
Hitachi Consulting

Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Vineet Menghani 1/22/13 11:24 PM
Hi Manish,

This is nice, it would be more helpful if you share or throw some light on the architectural side as well.

Thanks
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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites Hasamali Saiyed 1/23/13 7:06 AM
Manish,

Nice Site developed in Fatwire. Is there any use of ADF in this website. I dont see single ADF component in this website.

Thanks,Hasim

Thanks, Hasim
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Re: [ADF EMG] "beautiful" ADF sites rungta...@gmail.com 1/23/13 12:55 PM
Click on Register/Login link. Once you login, you are taken to portal where user can check/place orders, query items etc. This application is served by 11.5.10 EBS in backend.


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