|video compression||Huck||9/22/09 5:24 PM|
I posted this question once before with 0 response. I'll try one more
When I export an animation the .avi file is very big. anyone know how
to compress it?
|Re: video compression||Gaieus||9/23/09 3:43 AM|
You can use Windows Movie Maker (should go with your Windows install
or get it for free on the MS websites) to create smaller still
bearable quality files.
|Re: None video compression||Colin Holgate||9/23/09 7:04 AM|
> I posted this question once before with 0 response. I'll try one more
We did talk a bit about compression in the "flickering" topic.
> When I export an animation the .avi file is very big. anyone know how
Although there are compression programs that can take what you have
In a fit of optimism, I just installed 7.1 under Windows 7, and sadly,
|Re: None video compression||Huck||9/23/09 12:41 PM|
Are you using a Mac Colin?
A friend of mine says the Mac video stuff is way better. I was trying
to compress videos (not sketchup ones, just off my camera) and he
could get great compression very easily with a Mac program that,
unfortunately, is not available for Windows.
|Re: video compression||Huck||9/23/09 12:46 PM|
Any suggestions about precisely what to select in Windows Movie
Maker? I tried that before and it was a bit confusing although I had
limited success. As noted to Colin, my friend tells me much better
compression is possible, he does it with his Mac, but I don't know
what programs might work on the PC.
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|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/23/09 1:18 PM|
If you get a good compression program it could be on Mac or Windows,
and some programs are cross platform too. I think that QuickTime
Player in Windows can do the open image sequence, and save to a movie,
and you could take that into the application Gai mentioned. When
exporting from QuickTime Player to a movie, you could use the
Animation codec, at its best settings. That should be readable by any
WIndows app that can deal with video.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/23/09 1:35 PM|
By the way, if you want to send me a skp that is set up to do an
animation export, of a scene that is as complicated as you are likely
to get, I can do the image export test and show you how it works out
via QuickTIme Player. I can make the image sequence under Windows, to
make it a fair test, but I would make the movie version on Mac (I
don't have QuickTime Pro for Windows).
|Re: None video compression||Gaieus||9/24/09 5:10 AM|
Virtual dub is another great (and free) app working fine on Windows:
As for compressions and codecs, xVid is a very good one however not
everybody has this codec so you may need to "suggest" it to a client
if you want to use it and send the file:
But at least it works fine on both Mac and Windows.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/24/09 5:33 AM|
For codec, I would go for H.264. With that your client can either play
it back in their preferred media player, or if they don't have any
kind of media player installed, it can be played back using Flash in a
browser window. It's one of the codecs used in Blu-Ray for showing HD
content, as well as being the one used by YouTube and others when in
the HD mode.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Huck||9/24/09 9:07 AM|
Here is the model I have been working with. RiverDiag-6Story.skp
(I posted it in “Files”. Did I send this link correctly? I haven’t
figured out how to direct you to the file)
There are lots of improvements I want to make with the model but at
the moment I was trying to get the animation worked out. I want to
figure out the animation in part because some of the improvements to
the model such as a more extensive and detailed landscape slow it down
too much to use live.
I want to use all the scenes except “plan” in the animation but I
removed all except one so as to make short tests.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/24/09 9:15 AM|
I still have that from when you first posted it. If it hasn't changed
I'll report back in a while.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Gaieus||9/25/09 5:27 AM|
That's also a good tip, thanks, Colin!
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/26/09 7:56 AM|
I'm going to start a new topic in a moment to explain the steps I took
in my last test. I'll title it "how to export nice animation". I'm
just doing that to help out the people who subscribed to these threads
and can't get unsubscribed!
|Re: None Re: video compression||Gaieus||9/26/09 8:33 AM|
Could you make this step by step tutorial already in the new forum?
This place will shut down soon and although will be accessible for
browsing the archives, it would be better to access it in an active
Also, if you elaborate it nicely, I'm surte catamountain would be glad
to include it to the sites.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/26/09 8:40 AM|
> Also, if you elaborate it nicely, I'm surte catamountain would be glad
Thanks for the tips. I just finished typing it (it's long), would you
|Re: None Re: video compression||Gaieus||9/27/09 5:41 AM|
I have just gone through the post and indeed, it's a nice description
of the process (including some seemingly basic and "obvious" info like
bitrate and fps I am sure many users are not aware of though).
BTW the mov file gave me an error and my QT couldn't play it.
p.s. as for making it more useful - wait for comments and questions
maybe to see if something is not clear for others.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/27/09 5:59 AM|
If you managed to download just the MOV, it would give errors, as it's
Too late! Yesterday I made this article (which I'm sure I can edit
Right now the animated GIF in the teaser has some dithering issues.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Gaieus||9/27/09 6:14 AM|
OK, I see what you mean about the mov file. Probably it could play in
my QT Plugin in FF but I disabled the plugin because no matter what I
set in FF, it always wanted to play everything (I mean EVERYTHING from
avi to mpg and all) in the browser window which is not my preference.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Huck||9/27/09 8:39 AM|
The tutorial is great!
Problem: I'm using Windows Media Player 11 (the latest version as far
as I know). It won't play the MP4 file.
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|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/27/09 9:03 AM|
On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Huck wrote:
I'm testing with Windows 7, which may make a difference as it uses
Open Windows Media Player 11.
Press Control-M to show the Menu Bar.
Select File/Open URL.
Paste in: http://xfiles.funnygarbage.com/~colinholgate/video/bigriver.mp4
Does it play now?
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/27/09 9:22 AM|
I found this article:
that suggests that WMP 11 won't handle H.264 MPEG-4 by default. The
I've tried the rename approach, see if this file works any better than
|Re: None Re: video compression||Huck||9/27/09 8:46 PM|
None of the above approaches worked.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/27/09 9:01 PM|
> None of the above approaches worked.
As the article mentions, VLC ( http://www.videolan.org ) is another
The worse case is that you have to set up animations for Flash, but at
|Re: None Re: video compression||Huck||9/27/09 9:40 PM|
I posted this comment on your topic on animations, then thought maybe
I better post it here.
Re using MP4
I found several discussions on newsgroups of this issue.
Basically it looks like WMP does not support MP4. It seems like there
may be some work arounds but from my perspective that is not too
useful. I’m working with inexperienced people in different
countries. I need something that works very simply. I could ask them
to download QuickTime but that is an extra step that I have found
problematic in the past (I’ve done that in order to use QuickTime
Virtual Reality panoramas which are great for the work I’m doing, but
the requirement to download has been a problem. Some of the people
are working out of internet cafes.)
The flash option sounds interesting but I have never worked with that
before. I’ll give it a try. I think you indicated there were some
complexities when you want to use the video locally rather than on the
> As the article mentions, VLC (http://www.videolan.org) is another
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/27/09 9:59 PM|
The Flash download issues can be solved by making a zip file of the
bits needed. Your user would download and expand the folder, and would
open the index.html in their browser. You would have to go through the
figuring out of how to use those free Flash video players.
Other than that, stick with WMV if you like, by doing the export as
Also think about VLC. It can play virtually anything.
Much of this would be simpler for you if SketchUp had more modern
|Re: None Re: video compression||Huck||9/29/09 12:01 PM|
It may or may not be interesting to know: I took your bigriverref2.mov
and Exported it with QuickTime to .AVI. instead of about 13MB it was
18MB, however the quality was disastrously awful.
On Sep 27, 9:59 pm, Colin Holgate <co...@verizon.net> wrote:
> The Flash download issues can be solved by making a zip file of the
> bits needed. Your user would download and expand the folder, and would
> open the index.html in their browser. You would have to go through the
> figuring out of how to use those free Flash video players.
> Other than that, stick with WMV if you like, by doing the export as
> Animation I mentioned, and find a suitable PC program to do the WMV9
> compression. There are other codec options in WMV, but using those
> might require that PC users have to download an add-on (in fact, more
> or less the same add-on as is needed to play MP4), and in one or two
> cases you might pick a codec that would rule out Mac users completely.
> So it would be best overall to use WMV9 if you do use WMV files.
> Also think about VLC. It can play virtually anything.
> Much of this would be simpler for you if SketchUp had more modern
> codecs, that actually remained selected!
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/29/09 12:23 PM|
> It may or may not be interesting to know: I took your bigriverref2.mov
Well, you already said it was AVI!
Seriously though, AVI can have many codecs, and the default one
In other words, don't use AVI. It's many years I think since Microsoft
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/29/09 1:10 PM|
Here's something you'll find very encouraging:
Even though this is a recompression of my H.264 movie, it still looks
|Re: None Re: video compression||Huck||9/29/09 11:50 PM|
How did you generate it?
It played on my WMP11 with no problem and no upload or anything.
|Re: None Re: video compression||Colin Holgate||9/30/09 5:50 AM|
> How did you generate it?
I'm a trained professional you know! Well, more likely, I've been