Pricing for new enterprise version and lack of basic functionality in free version.

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Pricing for new enterprise version and lack of basic functionality in free version. Mr. Slim 5/8/13 1:43 AM
Hi Lingtao Pan.

As it seems, you will split development to have proprietary version with _basic_ needed functionalities, like discrete user groups: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/seafile/A_DVraOgMoA/LN1UykOdztwJ
therefor open source version won't be usable for more than a single user install or just a bunch of friends. And even when used amongst friends, it's sometimes required, that they don't see each other. When you'll get married, you'll understand. ;-)

I would understand, that advanced features, like working with MS Office files directly via web browser or LDAP integration could be payable, but to have all users on your cloud visible to all other users by default should, be a part of open source release available to everyone.

As this basic functionality is needed, i wonder how much will this "enterprise" edition cost.
Will the charges be reoccurring for each new release or on yearly basis?
Will you charge per user?
For people using this in business environment, cost planing is very important and if they are hit down the road by costs that are not be expected, they won't be very happy.

I personally don't mind paying a small one time fee or give a donation as i did in the past to open source projects which i use in my daily life, even thou i'm already paying by advertising your services (seafile.cc) to each of my friends/users by giving them access to my seafile install.

What i could see happen, if this basic functionality will be payable is, that someone (might be me or one of my friends) will code this group separation and while doing it, will prepare a release without your advertisements (like CentOS did from RedHat) and people will start using that fork, because it will contain basic functionality, like group separation and will contain _no_ advertisements.

As i've been long in this post already, let me sum it up and finish.
1. Seafile is a great product, especially when compared to owncloud. And your support is awesome for now.
2. Basic functionalities like option to remain private to other cloud users outside your group should always be free,because it's basic functionality.
3. It's perfectly acceptable that advanced functionalities needed for big installs or enterprise needs are payable. Functionalities like LDAP integration, editing MS Office/ Libre Office files, .. etc could be payable. When deciding what should be payable, try and ask yourself what would a big enterprise install need ('cause they have the money to spend), while small installs won't.

Hopefully you will consider my opinion.


Re: Pricing for new enterprise version and lack of basic functionality in free version. Daniel Pan 5/8/13 2:03 AM
What do you mean by group seperation? In current version, if you hide the organization tab and remove auto-completion (we will fix the auto-completion in next version), people in different groups will not see each other. You server will be just the same as our online service (seacloud.cc). 

We have received several requests to add something like in Box.com to enable one seafile server to be used by several companies. With this feature, they can sell seafile service to their customers. This is a business usage, and we should get paid. 
Re: Pricing for new enterprise version and lack of basic functionality in free version. Daniel Pan 5/8/13 2:22 AM
Any way, I think you have misunderstood what I mean of business edition in that email. You can always build a service like seacould.cc using the open source version.
Re: [seafile] Pricing for new enterprise version and lack of basic functionality in free version. xie zheng 5/8/13 3:51 AM
Hi, in curent version(1.6.1), you can hide "Organizations" tag by deleting a few lines in seahub/templates/myhome_base.html. Go to line 19, delete following lines:

    {% if not cloud_mode %}
    <li>
        <a href="{% url 'pubrepo' %}" {% block nav_pubinfo_class %}{% endblock %}>{% trans "Organization" %}</a>
    </li>
    {% endif %}

Then, the "Organization" tag will be disappeared immediately.

In next version, we will add a configure option to show/hide "Organization" tag.

Regards.

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