| handling of /home in TemplateVM vs TemplateBasedVM | Patrick Schleizer | 02/07/15 12:49 | Hi,
as far I observed until now, anything in a TemplateVM's home folder is copied to a TemplateBasedVM home folder at creation time of the TemplateBasedVM. From then, any modification in TemplateVM's home folder won't effect existing TemplateBasedVM based on that TemplateVM. New TemplateBasedVM's created based on that TemplateVM would get these changes, though. If my understanding is correct and this is currently undocumented, I would like to add this to documentation. What would be an appropriate place? https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/GettingStarted/#appvms-domains-and-templatevms ? Cheers, Patrick |
| Re: [qubes-users] handling of /home in TemplateVM vs TemplateBasedVM | Marek Marczykowski-Górecki | 02/07/15 15:05 | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1 Yes, probably somewhere there. But, we're actually thinking about removing that feature, so new template-based VM would get clean home regardless when it was created. This would mean that one can no longer preconfigure user settings in the template to have them propagated to new VMs, but overall I think this would be more consistent. If one want to have something configured the same way on every VM (based on this particular template), it can be done in /etc. What do you think? - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVlbW6AAoJENuP0xzK19csmycH/2oJKFaxgII3KjbpG8Pr4rIm 4QJMUfT/esJPfV0ewFbYf8SPzqWkiId0QDZDw26aQxinePGifQR05vZPG9LIyk9e dYPSRDXhkcd45drXWnYaXwiO2hwvYEZYyZ1T5k35vqnc7/tm9K+SNBZrCA3da3s0 3muGcnDZq46EGaTLOAPtC8JQlxJg4RXFVKpRveUK2jdVUi05FXdtU/Euj3nev2v4 ZLvIUI5e/uk9/ffSHGK6fqignS7zN34y9Gq1JV6QaLBsuRLBcB9jXEcI8qXjKMdU LfWGIrcg3UFPWkPP/a2oBNTqxV9vJQ+bkwFHF8vM7BLLf+8s5S0xPNz45SiWmUw= =7413 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
| Re: [qubes-users] handling of /home in TemplateVM vs TemplateBasedVM | Alex Dubois | 02/07/15 15:19 | +1 from me on changing as you describe Marek for the consistency. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to qubes...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20150702220546.GP1498%40mail-itl. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
| Re: [qubes-users] handling of /home in TemplateVM vs TemplateBasedVM | cprise | 02/07/15 21:45 | I currently rely on that feature to maintain a consistent environment
(templates are carefully configured with certain presets in the CLI, UI options, browser, etc). I create appvms fairly regularly, sometimes with the intention of keeping them only for a few hours or days. Having to manually reconfigure them each time would be a significant burden. If it is to be changed at all, it would be better to have this as an option in the VM creation dialogue window. Even then, I would default it to the current behavior. A note on the nature of user presets in templates: These currently are necessary to improve general security of the VMs. Think of the thumbnail preview setting in Nautilus, or any number of options/extensions in Firefox, TBird, etc. So... Emphatic 'No'. |
| Re: [qubes-users] handling of /home in TemplateVM vs TemplateBasedVM | Patrick Schleizer | 03/07/15 00:34 | cprise:
I agree with cprise on this. The current way it's handled is also crucial for Whonix because we must write some stuff into home.* Cheers, Patrick * Surely it would be great if we would not need to, but this would require significant help by upstreams, and that's not available. |
| Re: [qubes-users] handling of /home in TemplateVM vs TemplateBasedVM | Connor Page | 03/07/15 02:04 | I agree with cprise. Some security and accessibility settings have to be configured in user's home. I recon it could be problematic to implement a switch at new vm creation because I can't see how to keep two versions of home folder in sync. |
| Re: [qubes-users] handling of /home in TemplateVM vs TemplateBasedVM | Patrick Schleizer | 15/10/15 12:56 | conp...@gmail.com:
> I agree with cprise. Some security and accessibility settings have to be configured in user's home. I recon it could be problematic to implement a switch at new vm creation because I can't see how to keep two versions of home folder in sync.How this will be handled in future is currently being discussed on github. https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/1335 Cheers, Patrick |