Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey?

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Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Drugoy 8/30/11 7:48 AM
CTRL+SHIFT+TAB usually did the opposite action to CTRL+TAB.
CTRL+TAB let's you scroll to the next tab (e.g. make it active).
CTRL+SHIFT+TAB let's you scroll to the previous tab.

Why does a user have to lose the ability to scroll tabs in backward
order if he likes the "Tab Previews" feature?
I suggest to back out <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
show_bug.cgi?id=669265
">bug 669265</a> and set another hotkey for it,
like "CTRL+SHIFT+`".

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Dao 8/30/11 8:02 AM
On 30.08.2011 16:48, Drugoy wrote:
> CTRL+SHIFT+TAB usually did the opposite action to CTRL+TAB.
> CTRL+TAB let's you scroll to the next tab (e.g. make it active).
> CTRL+SHIFT+TAB let's you scroll to the previous tab.
>
> Why does a user have to lose the ability to scroll tabs in backward
> order if he likes the "Tab Previews" feature?

Because with browser.ctrlTab.previews=true, you go through tabs in
most-recently-used order. The opposite direction of this isn't useful.

> I suggest to back out<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
> show_bug.cgi?id=669265">bug 669265</a>  and set another hotkey for it,
> like "CTRL+SHIFT+`".

That bug didn't change the fact that CTRL+SHIFT+TAB didn't take you to
the "previous tab" with browser.ctrlTab.previews=true.

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Daniel Holbert 8/30/11 8:41 AM
On 08/30/2011 08:02 AM, Dao wrote:
> On 30.08.2011 16:48, Drugoy wrote:
>> CTRL+SHIFT+TAB usually did the opposite action to CTRL+TAB.
>> CTRL+TAB let's you scroll to the next tab (e.g. make it active).
>> CTRL+SHIFT+TAB let's you scroll to the previous tab.
>>
>> Why does a user have to lose the ability to scroll tabs in backward
>> order if he likes the "Tab Previews" feature?
>
> Because with browser.ctrlTab.previews=true, you go through tabs in
> most-recently-used order. The opposite direction of this isn't useful.

To be fair: IIUC, that's exactly the same as how Alt+Tab works for window
management (and people still find the "Shift" order-reversal useful there).

(That is to say -- Alt-Tab goes through windows in most-recently-used
order, at least on Ubuntu, and the Shift modifier reverses the direction.)

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews; true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Mike Shaver 8/30/11 8:44 AM
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Holbert <dhol...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> (That is to say -- Alt-Tab goes through windows in most-recently-used order,
> at least on Ubuntu, and the Shift modifier reverses the direction.)

Yeah, on Windows too, and it's useful when you overshoot while changing.

Mike

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews; true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Dao 8/30/11 8:49 AM

The original mail only applies to holding Shift from the beginning when
hitting Ctrl+Tab. If you hit Ctrl+Tab, release Tab, hold Shift in
addition to Ctrl and hit Tab again, you do go back in the list.

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Drugoy 8/30/11 2:37 PM
On Aug 30, 7:02 pm, Dao <d...@design-noir.de> wrote:
> On 30.08.2011 16:48, Drugoy wrote:
>
> > CTRL+SHIFT+TAB usually did the opposite action to CTRL+TAB.
> > CTRL+TAB let's you scroll to the next tab (e.g. make it active).
> > CTRL+SHIFT+TAB let's you scroll to the previous tab.
>
> > Why does a user have to lose the ability to scroll tabs in backward
> > order if he likes the "Tab Previews" feature?
>
> Because with browser.ctrlTab.previews=true, you go through tabs in
> most-recently-used order. The opposite direction of this isn't useful.

And what if a user has browser.ctrlTab.recentlyUsedLimit set to 0?
Then there is no most-recently-used order, but CTRL+SHIFT+TAB still
occupies that hotkey.
So your reasoning can be hardly applied here.

> > I suggest to back out<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
> > show_bug.cgi?id=669265">bug 669265</a>  and set another hotkey for it,
> > like "CTRL+SHIFT+`".
>
> That bug didn't change the fact that CTRL+SHIFT+TAB didn't take you to
> the "previous tab" with browser.ctrlTab.previews=true.

Okay, maybe that was broken even earlier, or just no one thought that
a user may have
browser.ctrlTab.recentlyUsedLimit set to 0

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews; true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Drugoy 9/5/11 5:20 PM
So you just ignore me here in newsgroups (and my emails), and when I
create such a bug in bugzilla - you come and wontfix it.
Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Dao 9/6/11 12:38 AM
On 30.08.2011 23:37, Drugoy wrote:
> And what if a user has browser.ctrlTab.recentlyUsedLimit set to 0?
> Then there is no most-recently-used order, but CTRL+SHIFT+TAB still
> occupies that hotkey.
> So your reasoning can be hardly applied here.

I suggest that you set browser.ctrlTab.previews to false. The main point
of the previews panel is the most-recently-used sorting.

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Drugoy 9/7/11 4:50 AM

I already proved you that this is wrong: we have a nice pref
browser.ctrlTab.recentlyUsedLimit which changes that order, in case it
is set to 0.
So your explanation doesn't work here and you should think over re-
binding the key for Tab Previews from CTRL+SHIFT+TAB to another hotkey.

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Dao 9/7/11 5:16 AM
On 07.09.2011 13:50, Drugoy wrote:
> On Sep 6, 11:38 am, Dao<d...@design-noir.de>  wrote:
>> On 30.08.2011 23:37, Drugoy wrote:
>>
>>> And what if a user has browser.ctrlTab.recentlyUsedLimit set to 0?
>>> Then there is no most-recently-used order, but CTRL+SHIFT+TAB still
>>> occupies that hotkey.
>>> So your reasoning can be hardly applied here.
>>
>> I suggest that you set browser.ctrlTab.previews to false. The main point
>> of the previews panel is the most-recently-used sorting.
>
> I already proved you that this is wrong: we have a nice pref
> browser.ctrlTab.recentlyUsedLimit which changes that order, in case it
> is set to 0.

It's a hidden pref and I added it. Its existence doesn't really mandate
anything.

Re: Why does "browser.ctrlTab.previews;true" occupy CTRL+SHIFT+TAB hotkey? Drugoy 9/7/11 11:29 AM
Why is it so hard for you to change the hotkey for Tab Preview?