Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread

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Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/9/11 2:56 AM
Thunderbird Conversations is still under active development, and I'm about to release a 2.0a3 version that will be compatible with the upcoming Thunderbird 3.3a3. Thunderbird Conversations includes a "would like to leave some feedback" popup window that encourages you to share some thoughts about the addon. It currently redirects to UserVoice, but Mozilla Messaging experiments are moving away from this feedback channel, and encouraging the use of the mozilla-labs groups instead. This is the topic that welcomes user feedback regarding Thunderbird Conversations.

Development version: http://jonathan.xulforum.org/files/gcv-nightlies/ (warning, requires tomorrow's Thunderbird nightly, at the time of this writing)
Stable version: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/54035/ (install it through Thunderbird, from Tools > Add-ons)
GitHub: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View
FAQ, Questions: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki

jonathan
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Frank J. 3/9/11 11:00 AM
hi,
just want to tell you that I love the gallery view...
Thx and regards
Frank J.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Frank J. 3/15/11 2:01 AM
Hi,
found another bug.
if you open a gallery view and close thunderbird, open thunderbird again then the tab is restore but the gallery is not shown (says undefined).
and another one concerning the lightning-integration:
if I open an email with an (already processed) event and change to one without a event it is still shown that the event (from the previous mail) is already processed
Regards
Frank J.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/15/11 2:18 AM
Hi,

On Tue 15 Mar 2011 10:01:04 AM CET, Frank J. wrote:
> Hi,
> found another bug.
> if you open a gallery view and close thunderbird, open thunderbird again
> then the tab is restore but the gallery is not shown (says undefined).
What exactly says "undefined"? Could you possibly send a screenshot or
give me (through copy/paste) the error message from Tools > Error
console, if any?

> and another one concerning the lightning-integration:
> if I open an email with an (already processed) event and change to one
> without a event it is still shown that the event (from the previous
> mail) is already processed
Philipp Kewisch (:Fallen) wrote the Lightning integration plugin, and
he's been notified about the bug. He says it's on his to-do list :-).

Thanks for the feedback!

jonathan
> Regards
> Frank J.
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Frank J. 3/15/11 4:55 AM
oh I tricked myself with the gallery view thing, I opened the tab, then deleted the message (because it was to big and not useful anymore) and then closed thunderbird and then the title of the tabs says galler view undefined...
So its mainly my fault, but maybe its possible to not restore gallery views for deleted messages.
Thank you for your quick reply
Frank J.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/15/11 6:27 AM
That's what I thought. I'll try to fix this for the next version, 2.0a3
is about to be released.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Gilberto Olimpio 3/16/11 10:34 PM
I can't see the emails I've sent on the conversations any more (only the ones I've received).
Is there something I have to set up (It was working before).

Thanks,

Gilberto
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/17/11 1:24 AM
Sorry, I meant *enabled*.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/17/11 1:24 AM
You should check under your Preferences, in the Advanced section, in
the General tab, that "Enable Global Search and Indexer" is disabled.
- Does this happen for all conversations?
- What happens if you go into your sent folder, and select the message
you sent?

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread David Bienvenu 3/17/11 10:59 AM
Newer version of Conversations was not working for me at all - it turned out that I had some news server accounts with identities that didn't have an e-mail address, so conversations was bailing out because a call to id.email was throwing an exception.

In particular, this code fails:

function fillIdentities() {
for each (let id in fixIterator(msgAccountManager.allIdentities, Ci.nsIMsgIdentity)) {
gIdentities[id.email.toLowerCase()] = id;
}
gIdentities["default"] = msgAccountManager.defaultAccount.defaultIdentity;
}


- David
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/17/11 12:57 PM
For other people who may have been experiencing this rare situation, a
new version (alpha5) has been released, and it should hopefully fix the
issue.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/versions/

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Gilberto Olimpio 3/20/11 4:28 PM
It's already enabled.
- Today I have a conversation with only one sent message included on it (it was supposed to be 4 sent messages).
- If I go to the sent folder and click on the conversation, I can see all the messages (including the received ones).

(I've updated it to the last version from your personal website)

thanks,

Gilberto
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Gilberto Olimpio 3/20/11 8:29 PM
It's working again (at least that conversation that I've reported before).
I did nothing but change between 2 themes (default -> silvermel -> default).

Thanks,

Gilberto
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/21/11 1:45 AM
I think this was just a problem related to Gloda failing to index the
messages you sent in a timely manner. The action about that takes place
on <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534449>.

Thanks for the error reporting,

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Ian Thomas 3/21/11 3:47 AM
Hi,

I'm not sure if this is the expected behaviour, but I often see multiple entries in my inbox for a single conversation. If I click on one of these then I get the full conversation, and if I archive / delete then it moves all the entries.

Surely I should only ever see the most recent email in the conversation?

Regards,
Ian
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/21/11 3:55 AM
I think you should make sure you have selected View > Sort By >
Threaded. This is the expected behavior, I've written over the weekend
a short user guide that should hopefully be part of the Thunderbird
FLOSS manual. In the meanwhile, I suggest you watch the screencast from
 http://mozillalabs.com/messaging/2010/12/07/announcing-thunderbird-conversations/

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Ian Thomas 3/21/11 9:59 AM
Thanks, turning threading on certainly helps, but it still seems a bit weird to see the multiple entries. Surely anything that Thunderbird is threading is a conversation, and therefore any of the items in the thread should display all items from the conversation?

Ian
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/21/11 1:31 PM
I'm afraid I don't understand. Make sure you hit View > Threads >
Collapse all threads. Then, one line = one conversation.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Leho Kraav 3/22/11 12:53 AM
(note: i'm a non-gmail user)

is it possible/feasible to make Space-key act as a single-key thread browser? i.e. select thread, hit space to pagedn, when first message ends, next message is automatically selected, space to scroll down again, etc, when final message is read, hitting space also moves focus back to thread pane.

having to tab into and in your head sort of maintain info about being or not being in conversations focus just doesn't seem right.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Leho Kraav 3/22/11 5:17 AM
ok spacebar handling is known https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues#issue/146.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Leho Kraav 3/22/11 6:02 AM
is there a way to do away with the message pane and assign Enter key to open all new tabs from thread pane with Conversations? i think that might be an unprecedented jump in TB mail reading usability. so tired of having to feel like i'm forced to look at e-mail through a keyhole yet it's way too much work to do it in any other way.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/22/11 6:17 AM
That's a valid concern, which has been raised by several people before.
Please note that the first button in the conversation toolbar does
precisely that (although the wording, which reads "save this
conversation in a new tab", is not very clear — this has been fixed
since then). Apart from that, the latest development version available
at http://jonathan.xulforum.org/files/gcv-nightlies/ will open a
conversation in a new tab if you hit enter or double-click on a thread
in the message list. I'm still waiting to see if that's a viable
option, though. It might interfere with other scenarios which I haven't
thought of yet, so any feedback will be most welcome.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Reg 3/23/11 4:23 PM
Thunderbird conversations is an interesting add-on, and the main reason I tried it was the attachment previewer that creates handy thumbnails of the attached files at the end of the email. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work the way I expected (similar to Windows Live Mail attachment previewer), and it is only working on Miramar 3.3 (Thunderbird pre-release). I sure hope the attachment previewer improves, for it is the only add-on for Thunderbird promising this unique, but important function. Thanks.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/23/11 4:35 PM
On Thu 24 Mar 2011 12:23:15 AM CET, Reg wrote:
> Thunderbird conversations is an interesting add-on, and the main reason
> I tried it was the attachment previewer that creates handy thumbnails of
> the attached files at the end of the email. Unfortunately it doesn't
> seem to work the way I expected
Can you elaborate on that?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Rich Renomeron 3/24/11 7:38 PM
I really like this addon.   It's enough to make me run Miramar, with all its rough edges (and Lightning nightlies), as my primary email program for the time being.  It might even make me learn git, so I can poke around at the source.

One thing I don't like about it is that the font is way too small on my setup.  I set my default font size smaller than the default (13) so using the wide view is manageable.  Since Conversations sets its "default" size to 75% of whatever the user sets, the result is 9 or 10px.  And what's worse, it doesn't apply the shrink factor consistently -- when displaying email I get from people using Outlook, the font size is the same as the "classic" mail reader.  I'm sure that's because of some CSS subtlety, but I haven't really looked into it.

So I usually run a slightly modified version where I change the textSize in the PostStreamingFixesMixIn in message.js to 1.0 * defaultSize, instead of 12/16 * defaultSize.  What I'd like to see is a preference that would make this "Shrink Factor" customizable (via the config editor, at least for now), with a default of 0.75.  I'll gladly code it up (I'm at least halfway there anyway) when I get some time, hopefully in the next week or so.

The other problem I've noticed is that after I encounter a message with a meeting invite in it, the iMIP bar (i.e "This message contains an invitation to an event; Tentative/Decline/Accept) shows up in every message displayed thereafter.  Not sure why that happens.

Thanks!

Rich

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Leho Kraav 3/25/11 12:08 AM
thanks for the feedback. if you got a moment please transfer the feature ideas and quirks to github issues and add your vote to existing ones, increases the chance of anyone doing something about them.
Font size issues Jonathan Protzenko 3/25/11 1:44 AM
Hi Rich,

First of all, thanks for all the feedback.


On 03/25/2011 03:38 AM, Rich Renomeron wrote:
I really like this addon.   It's enough to make me run Miramar, with all its rough edges (and Lightning nightlies), as my primary email program for the time being.  It might even make me learn git, so I can poke around at the source.

One thing I don't like about it is that the font is way too small on my setup.  I set my default font size smaller than the default (13) so using the wide view is manageable.  Since Conversations sets its "default" size to 75% of whatever the user sets, the result is 9 or 10px.  And what's worse, it doesn't apply the shrink factor consistently -- when displaying email I get from people using Outlook, the font size is the same as the "classic" mail reader.  I'm sure that's because of some CSS subtlety, but I haven't really looked into it.

So I usually run a slightly modified version where I change the textSize in the PostStreamingFixesMixIn in message.js to 1.0 * defaultSize, instead of 12/16 * defaultSize.  What I'd like to see is a preference that would make this "Shrink Factor" customizable (via the config editor, at least for now), with a default of 0.75.  I'll gladly code it up (I'm at least halfway there anyway) when I get some time, hopefully in the next week or so.
This issue has been reported more and more over the last week, so I guess I need to do something about it. And yes, there are some subtle issues with CSS, and the fact that some messages sent by Outlook enforce a font size regardless of what the user uses as a default font size. But that's irrelevant to what I'm about to discuss now.

I doubt I'll be able to find a solution that satisfies everyone's needs, and I don't think the shrink factor should be put as a pref... The main issue is that Andy (the Mozilla Messaging designer) has made a mockup with fixed-size fonts everywhere, using px sizes. While this gives a great consistent look, it does not play well with users changing their default sizes.
- Default font size is 16px on Linux and Windows, 17px on Mac.
- Andy made his design so that it expects a 12px font size for the message bodies.
- Changing the default font size affects the message bodies, but not the conversation chrome (conversation chrome = everything outside the message bodies: title, contacts, quick reply, etc.).

The current solution is:
- use 12px fixed-size for the conversation chrome (this is the initial design choice),
- use 75% of the default font size for the message bodies (i.e. roughly 12px).

The advantages are:
- if the user chose to have bigger fonts, this means the message bodies are bigger as well (restart required, Thunderbird Conversations doesn't pick that up on-the-fly yet),
- the conversation chrome stays consistent at 12px.

What would be needed now is to tweak the CSS to use relative font sizes for the conversation chrome as well, so that if the user prefers to have bigger fonts, the conversation chrome is bigger as well. This is especially difficult since everything has been designed with 12px in mind: margins, buttons height, offsets, etc. etc. But this is probably the right thing to do. Bryan had started work on this, but there was an issue with the height of the buttons.

In your case, this means you would have a conversation chrome that's *smaller* than what you have now, but consistent with the smaller message size too. I'm afraid this is the right thing to do: you asked for a smaller display font, so this means the conversation is smaller as well. Asking for a smaller display font makes everything smaller: websites in content tabs, the start page... However, you will be able to fix this easily by focusing the conversation, and hitting Ctrl/Cmd and +, to use the zoom feature and increase the font sizes in the conversation only.

I hope this answers your concern! I'll definitely fix this for the next release.

jonathan

The other problem I've noticed is that after I encounter a message with a meeting invite in it, the iMIP bar (i.e "This message contains an invitation to an event; Tentative/Decline/Accept) shows up in every message displayed thereafter.  Not sure why that happens.

Thanks!

Rich

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Frank J. 3/26/11 7:42 AM
Hi,
found something else that is breaking user experience:
if you are writing a quickreply and get another mail in the thread (for example reading-notification) the new mail kills the quick reply window (forever).
As the reading-notification is the last new message there seems to be no way to get back to the quickreply window.
Thx
Frank J.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/28/11 2:25 PM
So what you mean is if a new message arrives in the thread, we lose the
current quick reply? This is very weird because I've tried my best to
make sure this does not happen. Could it be you were in a state where
the save button of the quick reply was disabled? That would explain
what you witnessed...

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Frank J. 3/28/11 2:36 PM
hmm...
maybe it is because the Return Receipt is a message that is send earlier the one with the reply window
or because it is in a different folder
I dont know
when is the save button disabled?
I dont know if it was disabled. Sorry. If I see it again I will watch closely.
Regards.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/28/11 2:44 PM
The save button is disabled when Gloda has not indexed your message
yet. Gloda assigns each conversation a unique id, which allows us to
associate a draft to a conversation. If Gloda has not indexed your
message, there's no underlying conversation, which means we have no key
to associate the draft to, which the only (hopefully, rare) where it
might happen that the quick reply is "lost"...
Re: Font size issues in Thunderbird Conversations Rich Renomeron 3/28/11 6:46 PM
Jonathan,

Thanks for the explanation.  I'm with you on the "smaller display font = smaller chrome" issue, but after thinking about it some, I think there might be an unintended side effect with the message composer.

I tried running with the default font sizes (16px) today, and the conversations looked fine, as the 75% resize was close to what I was using with the classic reader.  But when I used the composer, the text was so large it was a distraction, especially when compared to what I was seeing in the Conversations pane.

For now, I got around the large-text issue in the composer by using a userContent.css file (body { text-size: 75%;}), and now the composer and Conversations are in harmony.  Maybe this could be one of the (optional) tweaks that Conversations does on first install?  Certainly a more sustainable path for me than maintaining a private git repo with my 1-line change. :)

Thanks,
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Re: Font size issues in Thunderbird Conversations Jonathan Protzenko 3/29/11 12:09 AM
I do agree that the composer font seems exceedingly large now in
comparison. Bryan, do you have any thoughts on this issue?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Frank J. 3/29/11 12:22 AM
hmm maybe thats the reason...
but if I am sitting at my pc and receive a new mail thats a pretty common scenario
Maybe it is possible to check if the quickreply is in use to prevent thats it is getting killed by new mails?
Thx anyway
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/29/11 12:27 AM
Do you mean that the quick reply actually *disappears*, as in "the
quick reply is definitely gone", or do you mean that you lose the text
you had typed so far?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Frank J. 3/29/11 12:30 AM
the quick reply window was not displayed anymore... because there was another (newer) message in the thread
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/29/11 12:31 AM
Oh that's a different issue, I thought you meant you lost the draft you
had typed so far. Forget what I said before.

When a new message arrives, the quick reply is moved to the last
message in the thread. You should make sure it is expanded if you want
to see the quick reply. Are there any errors in Tools > Error console?

On Tue 29 Mar 2011 09:30:46 AM CEST, Frank J. wrote:
> the quick reply window was not displayed anymore... because there was
> another (newer) message in the thread

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Reg 3/29/11 6:56 AM
When I tested on Miramar, I expected to see small inline thumbnail grid of all attached pics whenever I opened an email. After a while I realized that only happens if you open the email in a new tab using the small button (square with arrow pointing top-right), not in a new window as I always do. When I tried that, I got thumbnails to show at the bottom of the email, and even the option for gallery view. It was great. Sadly this way didn't work for all messages that had pics attached, for reasons I couldn't figure out.

I guess sometimes it shows other times it doesn't. Either way it would be nice if it the pic series could open into an external viewer, so even if a thumbnail gallery doesn't work, at least an external slide gallery might. Miramar couldn't do that for multiple pics (only individual pics), and neither did the addon, hence it didn't work as expected. Having said that, the included gallery view is a good alternative (when it does work), although an inline thumbnail-grid that's always available, would really be great. Thanks.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 3/29/11 7:13 AM
It is surprising that the attached images should not be thumbnailed. Is
it a message that just arrived? Is it a message that's stored on a
remote IMAP folder? Are you on a slow connexion? Did you have no
attachment listing at all (i.e. not even the filenames), or was it just
the thumbnails that were slow to arrive?

Thanks,

jonathan

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Reg 3/29/11 9:14 AM
They were old messages stored in local folders and POP inbox (hotmail on Miramar). Actually I'm on a fast connection of 14 megabits. None were IMAP. Even the attachment listing was missing, except when I switched to the classic reader at which point the listing became visible.

However, now I notice if I move the problematic messages to my IMAP folder (Gmail on Miramar) then the thumbnail feature seems to work, although not when you open the message in a new window, only if you use the special button (square with arrow).

Further, if I move them back from IMAP to their original local folders, some messages that were previously not showing, now started to show the thumbnails. This fixed the messages, some only partially (only showing listing: no thumbs), but at least gallery view was now available on all of them, even the partially fixed messages. On the emails that still showed no thumbnails I waited for ever, and retried a few times, but they simply would not appear.

Clearly the problem does not occur on IMAP, but only on local and POP folders. By moving them back and forth though IMAP, some got (partially) fixed. Hope this helps a bit. Thanks, Reg.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread nighthawk 4/2/11 12:36 PM
I've been trying Thunderbird Conversions for over a week. It works well in the main inbox but within specific folders it doesn't seem to groupd emails in a conversion type way.

Otherwise no problems so far.

Thanks

Ashley
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 4/4/11 1:22 AM
Hi Ashley,

Only the main inbox does have the threaded view by default. You can
enable it for other folders by hitting View > Sort By > Threaded in the
menus when you're in any other folder.

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Chris Fleming 4/4/11 2:45 AM
I'm really loving using Conversations. However, I have had to turn it off on one of the computers that I use to read mailing lists due to performance issues. I found that in some very long threads opening messages can take up to 10 seconds which is much too long. So for me performance has to be improved and/or the ability to enable  and disable conversations on a per folder basis.

Cheers
Chris 
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Trent Hill 4/6/11 5:34 PM
Just wanted to say thank you for this mod.
There's still bugs (for instance if I enter a folder and immediately open a coversation thread before thunderbird has finished syncing the folder contents, I can end up with just headers instead of email content) but it's 100% better than standard threading in any other email client.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Adam Kruszewski 4/12/11 4:10 AM
First of all big thanks for this extension! Overally it is the most beautiful extension for thunderbird I ever saw.
There is only one thing I'll like to see in it in the future (but probably it is a very hard to make) -- ability to drag & drop attachements from e-mail directly to folder on disk (standard thunderbird attachements list have this functionality).

Cheers!
a.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Ron Wilhoite 4/17/11 6:36 PM
I'm really enjoying Conversations. It is helping with withdrawals from Gmail because I can no longer POP work email into Gmail. Miramar is slightly frustrating because it takes approximately 10 minutes to become responsive on first start. This does not appear to be a Conversations problem because it takes the same length of time if I disable Conversations.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Leho Kraav 4/18/11 12:25 AM
SSD is probably your solution. Unless you already have one and also have a gazillion mails and folders.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Bistok Diiel Lelono 4/27/11 8:37 PM
hi,
this addon is awesome..
but i think i found a bug:
i can't change back the layout to vertical view, but i can change between classical view and wide view.

regards
bistok dl
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 4/28/11 9:19 AM
Hi,

Could you please make sure the error doesn't appear when Thunderbird
Conversations is disabled? Then, please come over to the GitHub issue
tracker at <https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues>.
Please file a new issue with the exact steps to reproduce, and any
relevant output from Tools > Error Console. Thanks!

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Fabio 4/29/11 11:57 PM
Very very useful add-on!

So far only one problem I was able to spot.  I use Rikaichan addon for reading Japanese emails and with conversations' email I can t directly use this add-on.  I have to open the email on  separate tab and then use the add-on.

Other that that, good job!

Fabio
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 4/30/11 12:42 AM
Hi,

I suggest you contact the Rikaichan author, and ask him to write a
Thunderbird Conversations plugin. The Lightning author wrote a
lightning plugin already, and we also have a Enigmail plugin as well in
the tree. More generally, if your favorite addon doesn't work with
Conversations, your best bet is to point the addon's author to this
page
<http://blog.xulforum.org/index.php?post/2010/11/27/Thunderbird-Conversations-plugins>.

Thanks for the feedback!

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Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Valeryan_24 4/30/11 6:48 AM
Hello,

I just installed Thunderbird 3.3 beta and Conversations, first impression I like a lot, thanks and congratulations for the good work ! It's better than similar Gmail conversation view.

I'd just have a little request, as a configuration option if possible.

The extension presents mails received as "XXXX to Me".

My problem : I use Thunderbird with an Imap Spamcop account, which collects mails from about 20 of my addresses - for business, family, friends, social networks, buying on Internet etc... each for a specific purpose.

And I want to see, even if I configured a lot of filters, to which address is sent each mail. Here it is possible when I hover the "Me", mail address appears, but I'd like to get it directly in the bar.

In Thunderbird 3 I had the same issue, it wrote "You" for the mails addressed to myself, I stopped it with addon "Disable You" : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/disable-you/

But this addon is useless with Thunderbird Conversations as it overrides Thunderbird presentation.

So please is it possible to add an option to display the whole email address instead of "Me" ?

Thanks in advance. Xavier
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Ben Frank 5/5/11 4:55 PM
Hey - first off, thanks for the plugin it's great. I have my 'archive' stored in local folders, rather than on the same machine as my inbox. This seems to cause a problem when searching for other messages in a thread - I don't get any messages that are in my archive. I've added the archive to the unified inbox, but this didn't seem to help - but switching my archive to the same server as my inbox did. Is this a bug / feature, or am I doing something wrong?

-Ben
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 5/7/11 6:15 AM
This sounds like the messages from  your archive are not indexed
properly. Have you excluded that archive from "global search results"?

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Richard Hurt 5/10/11 5:14 AM
Just wanted to say that I really like Conversations, enough to run Miramar.  Keep up the good work.  

However, like some others on the list, my font size is a bit small in some circumstances.  I'm running on OS X 10.6 with a pretty big screen and some text is so small that I have a hard time reading it, while others are just fine.  We do have a lot of Outlook users so it probably has something to do with that but I've not really taken the time to dig into it.

Thanx!
  Richard
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Dave Conradie 5/19/11 8:34 PM
Absolutely love this add-on.  Conversation View is my favourite part of the Gmail UX, so having it in Thunderbird is, as they say... priceless.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread kibi13 5/20/11 4:36 AM
Hi, I've just discovered Thunderbird Conversations.

I'm using Thunderbird 3.1.10 on Windows XP. When I try to install "Conversations" I get a message that the plug-in is not compatible.

Could you please tell me if this happens because the plug-in is geared towards the Thunderbird beta version? I am reluctant to use the beta version because I don't want to be responsible if something "breaks".

cheers
Anna
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 5/21/11 2:15 AM
Hi,

This is all explained in
http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq (this is
linked as "FAQ" from the addons.mozilla.org page).

Cheers,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread andreamonni 5/24/11 8:40 PM
Hi there - I installed Conversations and I find pretty good, I'd like to tweak it in the following way:
  • keep the default Inbox, with all messages in chronological order;
  • switch to conversation view when I double click on a message in the message/subject list.
Is it possible to set it up in such a way?

Andrea
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 5/25/11 12:40 AM
Hi,

On Wed 25 May 2011 05:40:25 AM CEST, andreamonni wrote:
> Hi there - I installed Conversations and I find pretty good, I'd like to
> tweak it in the following way:
>
>   * keep the default Inbox, with all messages in chronological order;
Use the View > Sort By > ... menus to tweak the way messages are
displayed. Try View > Sort By > Unthreaded.
>   * switch to conversation view when I double click on a message in the
>     message/subject list.
The latest dev builds have that feature already: please try out the
latest build at <http://jonathan.xulforum.org/files/gcv-nightlies/>.

>
> Is it possible to set it up in such a way?
>
> Andrea
Thanks for the feedback,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread andreamonni 5/25/11 6:56 AM
Hi Jonathan - thanks for the quick reply, I'll wait for the next
release to try the new setup. When do you reckon it'll be out?

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Andrei 5/27/11 7:50 AM
I've been using conversations for work and its great being able to see a chain of emails. One thing I've noticed is sometimes sent messages dont get linked to the chain and are separate. Not sure why this happens, but otherwise its a great product.  Keep up the great work!!
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 5/27/11 10:57 AM
If you are running Shredder (i.e. the trunk builds), there's a round of
improvements in there that should make the issue almost non-existent...

Thanks for the feedback,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread delu 5/29/11 10:12 AM
Hi,

I'm currently using Thunderbird Conversations 2.0alpha5, and I love it so far. However, I do have two suggestions/feature requests - would it be possible to implement a toggle to 1) show the date of the last email in the conversation in the unexpanded conversation, instead of the first email and 2) show the number of emails in a conversation in the title? By title/unexpanded conversation, I mean the bar/email with the date/subject/between, etc.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread delu 5/29/11 10:16 AM
Additionally, would it also be possible to bold an unexpanded conversation with unread emails in it?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 5/29/11 3:15 PM
Hi,

Thanks for the suggestion. This discussion is already happening on
Bugzilla :-), see <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=622779>.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 5/29/11 3:16 PM
Hi,

I don't understand. What part of the UI exactly should I bold? The row
in the message list? The conversation title in the conversation area?

jonathan

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> conversation with unread emails in it?
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread delu 5/29/11 4:34 PM
Currently, when you receive a new email in Thunderbird that is not
part of a conversation, the row in the message list is bolded. If a
new email arrives in a conversation, the row is not bolded unless you
expand the thread to show all the emails within the thread.

On May 29, 3:16 pm, Jonathan Protzenko <jonathan.protze...@gmail.com>
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread John Harris 5/31/11 5:19 PM
It's wonderful to now have my sent messages threaded with the rest of the conversation -- many thanks for writing this plugin. (Threaded messages are otherwise useless, IMO).

Unfortunately, it comes at the expense of losing the reply buttons that used to be at the top of the message pane. I see that you've created new Delete, Archive, etc. buttons up there, which is great, But I have to scroll down to the bottom of a message to access the reply/forward buttons, which is frustrating. I hope you can add the Reply/All/Forward buttons into the same fixed button area as the other actions.

Having UI buttons scroll with the message, and sometimes be off-screen, and be separated from the other actions, all seem like less-than-ideal UI design.

Thanks for any consideration,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Trent Hill 5/31/11 10:06 PM
It makes sense to remove the top level "reply" button and replace it
with message specifc ones though.
Lets say you have a conversational thread involving 8 people, 3 of
whom have responded since you last looked at the conversation.
This way, you are encouraged to read ALL the responses before chiming
in again.
If you wish to make individual responses, that's still possible.
No loss of functionality - just a change in process.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Aka 6/6/11 4:07 AM
The addon is awesome... Improves the usability portion as well as style quotient. There are bugs that needs to be smoothed, especially when handling attachments.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread John Harris 6/7/11 2:23 PM
Thanks for your response Trent. I admit I didn't consider the message-
specific reply needs, and at least now I understand the reason for the
change. But while those bottom reply buttons therefore need to be
there, I still disagree with the removal of the always-accessible ones
at the top. I'm using this only for work-related messaging that is
normally monitored, and thus the vast majority of replies (for me)
will be to either single messages, or single posts to conversations.
As yet, I have never used one of the inter-message reply buttons.

As a work-around, I've started using the right-click popup menu to
compose my replies. Certainly easier than scrolling to the reply
buttons, but obviously not as nice as static buttons. Hopefully the
developer can still consider top-level reply buttons that do the same
thing as the context menu option, but in a more convenient UI gadget.

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> This way, you are encouraged to read ALL the responses before chiming
> in again.
> If you wish to make individual responses, that's still possible.
> No loss of functionality - just a change in process.
>
> On Jun 1, 9:19 am, John Harris <froggerj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Fjodor F. Fjodor 6/9/11 2:01 PM
Hey, great work! thanks a lot. I use v2alpha5 on TB 5 beta. I very much like the inline reply feature. 
One button I miss: after expanding the list of recipients there is no short way to collapse it again.
Also, is there a way to change the ordering of mails such that the newest message is at the top?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 6/9/11 2:34 PM
I used to have the option to reverse the order of messages but it was
such a pain to maintain with all the logic for tabbing, keyboard
shortcuts, appending messages to a live conversation that I removed it
during the big rewrite last year. As to collapsing back the list of
recipients, I'll see if someone can find a valid UI mockup for that
action.

Thanks for the feedback!

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread babak 6/12/11 6:40 PM
Hi there,

it doesn't work with thunderbird 3.1.10. hope you can fix this

cheers

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 6/12/11 8:59 PM
No. Please read the FAQ
<http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq>.

Cheers,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Maddy 6/13/11 6:23 AM
Extremely good, I love this addon, the threaded view and the look and being able to reply directly
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread R Kassick 6/13/11 7:27 PM
The threaded view and inline reply look great and work quite fine! Congrats!

Issues with the current available version (20110609-master):
* Opening a long thread (i have one here with almost 400 emails) takes too long
* The setup assistant fails to apply the default settings (threaded view, sort by date, between-field, number of unread messages) to all the inboxes -- only to the one that was selected when tb opened after installing the extension.
* The between field misbehaves if I use "Group by Date"

Now I wonder when the will message list pane be revamped just like you guys did with the message view ;)
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread andreamonni 6/22/11 8:20 PM
I installed the latest beta (for some kind of reason I didn't realize there had been a few betas out since I last posted!) on TB5b2 and I tweaked it as you suggested and it's working great... thanks and congratulations!

Now we only need Compose in a Tab and Contacts working again (and possibly better)! :)

Andrea
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread tbirdrules 6/23/11 11:05 AM
Hi Jonathan,

Is there a way to use the Conversions addon but use the default visuals of an email?

I find it off-putting seeing a more graphical version of the thread, when I am used to quite plain text.

Nick
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 6/23/11 11:59 AM
I'm not sure I understand the question, but uninstall the addon and
hitting View > Sort by > Threaded afterwards (in the menus) might just
be what you want.

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Nick Kisberg 6/23/11 12:14 PM
Hi Jonathan,

What I meant is - I want to main the Conversions addon use, it's great,
but I dislike the visuals compared to the standard (how a
non-conversions email/thread looks is better imo)

Is there a way to do this?

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 6/23/11 2:05 PM
I don't think so, sorry.

jonathan

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Macarthur Inbody 6/28/11 10:21 PM
One thing that I'd love to see is for it to use more 'system' icons and a system theme instead of reinventing its own. Since the icons are more "Mac"y and thus it feels completely out of place with my dark theme. If it could use such colors cues from the OS it'd feel and run much much better(I imagine that this extension will be merged into core thunderbird as most mozilla labs do).
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 6/28/11 10:27 PM
Hi,

I do agree, but I'm no graphic designer. I've blogged about this: see
<http://blog.xulforum.org/index.php?post/2011/05/19/Wanna-work-on-Thunderbird-Conversations-We-need-help!>.
If you know anyone who might be able to help, please show them this
page!

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anirban Ghosh 6/29/11 2:18 AM
I installed this add-on yesterday for the first time after upgrading to TB5 and I'm simply loving it! Thank you Jonathan for bringing one of Gmail's most appealing features to Thunderbird.

I have 2 points:

a. If the no. of recipients is large and everyone's name cannot be accommodated in the conversation view's top line (it gives dotted ... to indicate more people), is there any way to see all of them other than the view using classic reader option?

b. A possible future option to disable avatar picture will be good. Right now it shows me funny faces as avatars. I do not use Contacts for Thunderbird. This obviously is of very low priority.

But this is one of the best add-ons I've seen.

Regards,
Anirban

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anirban Ghosh 6/29/11 2:44 AM
And one more thing: any way so as to not display in the conversation view first line the underlying url in a hyperlink. I may not have explained properly so take a look at the picture attached.

anirban.


Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 6/29/11 8:05 AM
Hi,

You can click the three dots "..." to show the full list of recipients.
You're not the first one who fails to discover this : any more
intuitive suggestions are welcome. For b., I'm using gravatars, and few
people use them (try to check out mine for instance), so this will have
to go at some point. Regarding your last comment, the URL won't go,
because what I'm using for the snippet is the plaintext version of the
email, and I'm using thunderbird's built-in html -> plaintext
conversion. Modifying it would be hard, and would break other parts of
Thunderbird.

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread ツSimón 6/29/11 8:44 AM
I've installed this add-on today with Thunderbird 5.
It lacks the buttons to answer to one message. How can I insert bold, italic, etc... using this conversation view?
Regards.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 6/29/11 8:50 AM
Hi,

You can use the reply / reply all / reply to list button at the bottom
of each message to reply individually to a given message. This will use
the standard composition window that will allow you to add formatting.
We don't have formatting yet for the quick reply inside the
conversation view.

Best,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anirban Ghosh 6/29/11 12:56 PM
Hi,

So the URL part is here to stay and nothing can be done. Silly of me not to have realised that the "..." can be clicked. I'm still getting used to using this add-on & really liking it.

anirban
Feature Request: More Thread Matching Options Brian Lacy 6/29/11 3:19 PM
I'm enjoying the Thunderbird Conversations extension so far, but I have a request:

Can you please provide more grouping options for matching conversation threads?

For instance, I would like to group all messages from certain email addresses into a single conversation thread.

It would also be sweet if the matching algorithm could match "similar" subjects, not just identical ones -- for instance, I get a daily update from my Project Management system where the only thing that changes in the subject line is the date. I would like to group all these as a single thread.

Thanks!
Re: Feature Request: More Thread Matching Options Jonathan Protzenko 6/29/11 9:15 PM
While I could enable such features in the addon, this would most
certainly increase the complexity. There's nothing hard however : I
have built-in support for grouping getsatisfaction threads by their
subject, and I used to do extra processing to display github threads by
doing grouping on the subject as well. You could see how I'm doing it
and maintain your own "in-house" version of the addon.

Please note however that this only applies to the conversation view,
not the message list.

Cheers,

jonathan

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Re: Feature Request: More Thread Matching Options Adrian M 7/1/11 4:35 AM
Hi, 

Thanks for the feature, it's a great add-on.

I have a small problem, search in message doesn't seem to work.
When I open a message, before installing TBird Conversations, if I pressed Ctrl+F twice, a small toolbar would appear below and I could search inside the currently displayed message.

Now, with TBird Conv, if I press Ctrl-F twice, the Find bar bellow doesn't appear anymore.

I tried disabling the other add-ons and this seems related to TBird Conv.

I'm using TBird 5.0 and TBird Conv 2.0.2

Thanks in advance,
Adrian
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Fausto Paiva 7/1/11 5:13 AM
In my opinion it is a great addon because creates "conversations" like Gmail. I installed Thunderbird 5 beta just for use it.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Bryce Jacobson 7/1/11 7:43 AM
I had about 10 emails in my inbox and the rest (3 years worth) in folders stored locally. Activating the addon brought all of those emails back to my inbox (they are still in their folders as well though). Is this a bug or is there a way to have emails already in folders not display in the inbox?
Re: Feature Request: More Thread Matching Options Jonathan Protzenko 7/1/11 9:48 AM
Hi,

https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/241

Cheers,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/1/11 9:50 AM
The addon makes your inbox also include your "sent" folders. You
probably only archived the emails in your inbox. This makes it more
consistent with what you'd expect from a conversations-style
Thunderbird, but you can disable it by right-clicking on your inbox, and
in properties > choose, unchecking the sent folders.

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Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/1/11 9:52 AM
Thunderbird Conversations is optimized for a 16pt font size (i.e. the
default on Linux), it's designed to give a consistent look to all users
who haven't changed their default font size.

Please read the thread
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla-labs/esb0LwLwQZo/discussion ;
I'm about to implement more options that should help some users.

Cheers,

jonathan

On 06/29/2011 02:11 AM, Nikolas Tautenhahn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a new user to TB conversations on an openSuSE 11.4 linux. I
> noticed that the action buttons (like "reply", "forward" etc) look to
> big/distorted for me. My font size is 12 pt, not sure if this glitch
> applies to every linux user.
>
> Attached you see a little screenshot showing the problem. If you could
> point me to where I can customize the HTML for these buttons, I think
> I will be able to do so on my own...
>
> best regards and thanks for this great extension,
> Nik


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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread veit 7/2/11 3:11 PM
I've always looked for and played around with extensions that pull more context into TB, so was excited about Conversations when I discovered it. After checking it out, quickly uninstalled it again in shock...just so many gripes with it. But now giving it a second chance. Here's my feedback:

- I want to configure what the header view looks like. I use other extensions (Display Mail User Agent for example) that I dont wanna give up, but at the barest minimum I want to be able to see the full email addys of both sender and recipient (Me! blah...most of us have several email addys that we manage). Best would be just to use the standard view once a message is expanded.
- I want to remove and add buttons in the conversations pane (no need for print, for example)
- attachments cannot be deleted (have to go to classic view)
- a button for classic view would be nice while this is still more or less in beta and many of us have to go there...save us some clicks, pls :-)
- in the conversations pane, collapsed, show us what folder a msg resides in
- same place, highlight the msg that is currently selected in the message list/folder
- when clicking recent conversations, give us a way to keep the folder layout (I understand this might be not the fault of the extension...) but I don't want to add the folder columns (Location!!) everytime I do a search
- for the future: possibly add another pane next to the conversation that searches for MORE emails from/to the sender in the background...while we work on the first msg, it pulls all other relevant msgs in...

Thanks for your work...looking forward to having a Thunderbird that will be more awesome than Gmail :-)

Greetings from Germany,

Veit
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread ve...@hospitalityclub.org 7/2/11 6:04 PM
After a bit of use noticed another quite substantial problem:

- the rendering of messages sometimes takes forever. Especially if it's html mails/mails with images (newsletters!)...usually several, and up to 10 seconds!! Which of course is ok when playing around with a new cool toy/addon...but in the long run this is bound to drive me crazy. I cannot sit here and wait for messages to render....
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/3/11 7:35 AM
Hi,

On 07/03/2011 12:11 AM, veit wrote:
> I've always looked for and played around with extensions that pull
> more context into TB, so was excited about Conversations when I
> discovered it. After checking it out, quickly uninstalled it again in
> shock...just so many gripes with it. But now giving it a second
> chance. Here's my feedback:
>
> - I want to configure what the header view looks like. I use other
> extensions (Display Mail User Agent for example) that I dont wanna
> give up, but at the barest minimum I want to be able to see the full
> email addys of both sender and recipient (Me! blah...most of us have
> several email addys that we manage). Best would be just to use the
> standard view once a message is expanded.
These extensions have to be specifically compatible with Conversations
as we replace the default message reader. Please ask your favorite addon
authors to read
<http://blog.xulforum.org/index.php?post/2010/11/27/Thunderbird-Conversations-plugins>
and come up with a patch so that they can interact with me.

> - I want to remove and add buttons in the conversations pane (no need
> for print, for example)
Some people seem to want this
<https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/278> but this
is not my priority.

> - attachments cannot be deleted (have to go to classic view)
You can delete attachments? Wow. Thunderbird does have a lot of features.

> - a button for classic view would be nice while this is still more or
> less in beta and many of us have to go there...save us some clicks,
> pls :-)
> - in the conversations pane, collapsed, show us what folder a msg
> resides in
That would remove a lot of space that's used for the snippet. Are you
willing to trade the snippet for the folder the message is in?

> - same place, highlight the msg that is currently selected in the
> message list/folder
If you select a collapsed thread, there's no such thing as "currently
selected message". Thunderbird considers all messages under the
collapsed thread are selected. If you have expanded the thread, and are
selecting a message in particular, it's easy: it's the one that's
scrolled to and displayed in the conversation view.

> - when clicking recent conversations, give us a way to keep the folder
> layout (I understand this might be not the fault of the extension...)
> but I don't want to add the folder columns (Location!!) everytime I do
> a search
That sounds more like a Thunderbird bug with gloda search tabs.

> - for the future: possibly add another pane next to the conversation
> that searches for MORE emails from/to the sender in the
> background...while we work on the first msg, it pulls all other
> relevant msgs in...
The contact tooltip has a "recent conversations" action... does it not
do what you want?

>
> Thanks for your work...looking forward to having a Thunderbird that
> will be more awesome than Gmail :-)
Thanks!

jonathan
> Greetings from Germany,
>
> Veit


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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/3/11 7:36 AM
Don't worry, it also makes me crazy. There's a bug in gecko that would
need to be fixed in order for these issues to disappear. I can try to do
a workaround, but I'm not sure it's within reach... I'm doing all sort
of hacks to workaround bug 80713 not being fixed.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80713

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread ve...@hospitalityclub.org 7/3/11 12:10 PM
Thanks for your answers, Jonathan. I actually had to disable the add-on
again, because of the delay in displaying messages - it's simply
unbearable at the moment. I would concentrate all my energy on getting a
real-time display of messages working...it was a real relief going back
to the normal view and having messages appear the moment I click on them ;-)

Some comments:
- you didnt address this one: at the barest minimum I want to be able to

see the full email addys of both sender and recipient (Me! blah...most
of us have several email addys that we manage). Best would be just to
use the standard view once a message is expanded.

 >> - in the conversations pane, collapsed, show us what folder a msg


 >> resides in
 > That would remove a lot of space that's used for the snippet. Are you
 > willing to trade the snippet for the folder the message is in?

definitely. You don't need to display the full path, just the folder
name (as in the standard column "Location") would do.

 >> - same place, highlight the msg that is currently selected in the
 >> message list/folder
 > If you select a collapsed thread, there's no such thing as "currently
 > selected message". Thunderbird considers all messages under the
 > collapsed thread are selected. If you have expanded the thread, and are
 > selecting a message in particular, it's easy: it's the one that's
 > scrolled to and displayed in the conversation view.

On the first click, yes. But once you've worked a bit with the thread
(scrolled up, expanded, collapsed)...no way to tell anymore, other than
clicking on another message in the messages pane, and then clicking back
on the original one. A visual indicator which is the message that is
currently selected is definitely needed.

 >> - when clicking recent conversations, give us a way to keep the folder
 >> layout (I understand this might be not the fault of the extension...)
 >> but I don't want to add the folder columns (Location!!) everytime I do
 >> a search
 > That sounds more like a Thunderbird bug with gloda search tabs.

Yeah, I searched a bit about this one last night and the standard layout
for NEW folders (like searches) seems to be hard coded into TB, with no
way for us users to adjust it. Really stupid.

 >> - for the future: possibly add another pane next to the conversation
 >> that searches for MORE emails from/to the sender in the
 >> background...while we work on the first msg, it pulls all other
 >> relevant msgs in...
 > The contact tooltip has a "recent conversations" action... does it not
 > do what you want?

In a way, yes. But I want this to happen in the background, without any
user interaction...no click, no new tab opening...just a pane that pulls
in related emails (and other context) in the few seconds I take looking
at the new message in my inbox :-) That's what your add-on is
essentially about (pulling in other messages from the conversation to
give context)...and to be honest, that would be the REAL step forward,
rather than simply copy Gmail ;-)

Greetings from Germany,

Veit

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/3/11 1:22 PM
On 07/03/2011 09:10 PM, ve...@hospitalityclub.org wrote:
> Thanks for your answers, Jonathan. I actually had to disable the
> add-on again, because of the delay in displaying messages - it's
> simply unbearable at the moment. I would concentrate all my energy on
> getting a real-time display of messages working...it was a real relief
> going back to the normal view and having messages appear the moment I
> click on them ;-)
You're welcome to come and help us with the performance issues. If I'd
focused on rewriting gloda, I'd still be busy doing it and conversation
2.0 would've never seen the light of day.

>
> Some comments:
> - you didnt address this one: at the barest minimum I want to be able
> to see the full email addys of both sender and recipient (Me!
> blah...most of us have several email addys that we manage). Best would
> be just to use the standard view once a message is expanded.
There's no way I'm going back to the standard view. This makes no sense.
The design is made in such a way that I just can't use the standard
message reader.

As to the "display my own email address" thing, some people seem to want
it (that makes two of you now), but I'm not interested in doing it
because I don't think it is worthwhile (the other 15000+ users haven't
sent me an email to complain about it). This is really easy though, and
would make for a great first patch for anyone who wishes to contribute.
And an ugly conversation view since it would eat all the space in the
message header area, but I guess that's your problem :-).


>
> > That would remove a lot of space that's used for the snippet. Are you
> > willing to trade the snippet for the folder the message is in?
>
> definitely. You don't need to display the full path, just the folder
> name (as in the standard column "Location") would do.
Please create an issue for that on the bugtracker
<https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues?sort=created&direction=desc&state=open>
I'll do something about it.

>
> But once you've worked a bit with the thread (scrolled up, expanded,
> collapsed)...no way to tell anymore, other than clicking on another
> message in the messages pane, and then clicking back on the original
> one. A visual indicator which is the message that is currently
> selected is definitely needed.
The problem is there's already so much information crammed into the
conversation view that I have no idea how to integrate this information
in an intuitive and non-obtrusive way...

>
> But I want this to happen in the background, without any user
> interaction...no click, no new tab opening...just a pane that pulls in
> related emails (and other context) in the few seconds I take looking
> at the new message in my inbox :-) That's what your add-on is
> essentially about (pulling in other messages from the conversation to
> give context)...and to be honest, that would be the REAL step forward,
> rather than simply copy Gmail ;-)
I fail to see really what you have in mind, maybe a mockup of some sort
would help.

Cheers,

jonathan
>
> Greetings from Germany,
>
> Veit

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Francesco Gigli 7/4/11 12:39 AM
I know this is not the most usefull feedback but i think it's right to do it..

You have done an impressive work!

Thunderbird without convos looks just primitive :)

Good work!
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Martin Burger 7/4/11 1:33 AM
After installing and using your add-on, I was missing sent messages (sent by replying to messages in a conversation) in my Sent folder. However, they appear in my Archive folders. It seems that Conversations archives (thus, moves) my sent messages to the Archive folders along with the corresponding incoming ones. Is that intended behavior? In my opinion, sent messages should stay in the Sent folder, while only incoming ones should be moved to the Archive.

--Martin
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Сергей Бутузов 7/4/11 6:08 AM
Hi
Thanks for this necessary and intresting plug-in. It's really cool.
And if you're intrested, i can help with translation into russian.

Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread ThunderStrut 7/4/11 8:18 AM
Hi --

Is there somwhere the possibility to make Thunderbird Conversation compatible with SmoothWheel (AMO). SmoothWheel works fine to scroll a message if Thunderbird Conversation is desactivated. It doesn't when Thunderbird Conversation is actividated.

Thanks.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jlat 7/4/11 11:46 AM
I'd like to be able to copy email addresses from senders, for example if this extension is disabled from thunderbird when I receive a new message I simply right click on the sender's name and select "Copy email address" from menu, however with this extension enabled I'm not able to copy the contact address
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/4/11 11:50 AM
Hi,

If you hover a contact tooltip, there's a small paperclip icon that
allows you to copy the sender's email.

Cheers,

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/4/11 11:50 AM
Hi,

Translation in Russian is almost finished, and will be in the next update.

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Re: Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/4/11 11:52 AM
Hi,

Do you mean https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/291?
If no, this is a problem with SmoothWheel. In general, other addons have
to do extra work to be compatible with conversations.

Cheers,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/4/11 11:53 AM
Are you using send and archive instead of just send... ? If not, check
your account settings to make sure the sent folder is the right one...

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Сергей Бутузов 7/4/11 1:13 PM
Thanks
Just asked :)
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anton Derbenev 7/5/11 4:30 AM

  1. There's no attachments displayed. Got get to attachments, I have to click «more», then «view using the classic reader». Which is far too far (3 clicks away!).
  2. There's no hotkeys, and I'm keyboarder. Many often used functions are hidden too far.
  3. Messages formatted strangely. Plain-text messages should be displayed with fixed width fonts, as in classic view.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anton Derbenev 7/5/11 4:36 AM
> There's no attachments displayed

sometimes, not sure what this depends to. For example, I've got many messages with other messages attached (in .eml) format, and they get not displayed.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Martin Burger 7/5/11 4:39 AM
On Monday, July 4, 2011 8:53:16 PM UTC+2, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
 
Are you using send and archive instead of just send... ? If not, check
your account settings to make sure the sent folder is the right one...
 

Thanks for your fast answer!

It seems that Conversations - at least sometimes - archives the whole thread when archiving a single selected message in my Inbox. Further, I guess that that behavior includes sent messages as well. However, I would assume that archiving a single selected message would archive that very message only, but not all related messages in my Inbox as well.

What do you mean by "using send and archive instead of just send" exactly? Usually, I reply to a message and afterwards I just hit "a" on my keyboard to archive the message I've just replied to.

Regards,

Martin
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/5/11 5:19 AM
Hi,

Thanks for the feedback.


On 07/05/2011 01:30 PM, Антон Дербенёв wrote:

  1. There's no attachments displayed. Got get to attachments, I have to click «more», then «view using the classic reader». Which is far too far (3 clicks away!).
This is a reindexing problem. See https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/FAQ

  1. There's no hotkeys, and I'm keyboarder. Many often used functions are hidden too far.
There's a keyboard shortcuts section in there. http://www.xulforum.org/gcvman.html

  1. Messages formatted strangely. Plain-text messages should be displayed with fixed width fonts, as in classic view.
Set the hidden pref conversation.tweak_bodies to false. Also in https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/FAQ

Cheers,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/5/11 5:20 AM
See the keyboard shortcuts section, in http://www.xulforum.org/gcvman.html

If the conversation view has focus, a will archive the whole conversation including sent messages. You need to make sure the message list has focus if you only want to archive the messages in the message list. Otherwise, you'll archive the whole conversation.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anton Derbenev 7/5/11 7:29 AM
From: Jonathan Protzenko <jonathan....@gmail.com>

> See the keyboard shortcuts section, in http://www.xulforum.org/gcvman.html
>
thanks, that's quite good, but i've even got some non-standard
commands working (for example 'R' to reply all), as I'm using it
often) configured with keyconfig.

However

* there is no hotkey to open classic view for example.
* There is no way to show quoted text with keyboard at all (even after
tab'bing to it, pressing enter collapses entire message instead).

etc.

When working with email, I like when each function accessible with
keyboard, and then there is no need to touch mouse at all.


From:         Jonathan Protzenko <jonathan....@gmail.com>


> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> <…>

>>
>>     Messages formatted strangely. Plain-text messages should be displayed with fixed width fonts, as in classic view.
>>
> Set the hidden pref conversation.tweak_bodies to false. Also in https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/FAQ

That really helped, thanks! Will read TFM now.

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/5/11 7:36 AM

On 07/05/2011 04:29 PM, Anton Derbenev wrote:
> From: Jonathan Protzenko<jonathan....@gmail.com>
>> See the keyboard shortcuts section, in http://www.xulforum.org/gcvman.html
>>
> thanks, that's quite good, but i've even got some non-standard
> commands working (for example 'R' to reply all), as I'm using it
> often) configured with keyconfig.
>
> However
>
> * there is no hotkey to open classic view for example.
the problem is many keys are already used by thunderbird shortcuts so
it's hard to find a key that's available. But it's easy to add new keys,
you could very easily make a patch for that!

> * There is no way to show quoted text with keyboard at all (even after
> tab'bing to it, pressing enter collapses entire message instead).
correct. once again, hard to find a good keyboard shortcut...

> That really helped, thanks! Will read TFM now.
cool. People seem to have a hard time finding the link to the FAQ, any
ideas to make it more discoverable?

jonathan

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anton Derbenev 7/5/11 8:23 AM
On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 6:36:29 PM UTC+4, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:

cool. People seem to have a hard time finding the link to the FAQ, any 
ideas to make it more discoverable?

I suggest to it on homepage, or at least link to it directly from homepage. Who read source/download separate source files from homepage, anyway?

And a note on configuration dialog about existence of hidden prefs, and where to look for them will help too.

P.S. Dark Orange on grey kills my eyes!
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anton Derbenev 7/5/11 8:34 AM


On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 6:36:29 PM UTC+4, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:

People seem to have a hard time finding the link to the FAQ

not surprisingly. People must fear not source files listing on homepage first, look through menu, fear not "wiki" without integrated search second (and many technical wikis are overwhelming garbage), and see link in 4th! paragraph!! third.

Reduce look-throughs and clicks to minimum, and user will appreciate. And give people search :)
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/5/11 8:39 AM
There's a FAQ link at
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/54035/>...

On Tue 05 Jul 2011 05:34:18 PM CEST, Anton Derbenev wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 5, 2011 6:36:29 PM UTC+4, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
>
>     People seem to have a hard time finding the link to the FAQ
>
> not surprisingly. People must fear not source files listing on homepage
> /_first_/, look through menu, fear not "wiki" without integrated search
> /_second_/ (and many technical wikis are overwhelming garbage), and see
> link in 4th! paragraph!! /_third_/.

>
> Reduce look-throughs and clicks to minimum, and user will appreciate.
> And give people search :)
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anton Derbenev 7/5/11 8:52 AM
you right, but I didn't get to AMO page at all :(
You're one who decides, and I don't push, I just say my opinion and suggest.

With thunderbird 5, extensions [can be] downloaded and installed directly from Thunderbird interface. And extension description in MT interface leads to github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/
And not many will read through description before installing, but many will when encounter problems. So interface links are more important IMHO.

Thanks for the extension, anyway!
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/5/11 8:57 AM
Right, I forgot about that other place, I never use the built-in addons manager. I've updated the page for the next version. Thanks,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Scott Sanders 7/5/11 9:48 AM
For some HTML emails, I see just a sliver of the top of the email -- until a minute or so passes, then it shows it all.

If I want to see it right now (would be nice!), I must open it in a new tab , i.e. the classic reader.

If you go here and subscribe to email updates -- http://www.btol.com/ -- most if not all of them do this.

I have 2.0.3.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Judah Richardson 7/5/11 11:35 AM
First of all, thank you very much for this add-on, it's made Thunderbird a LOT more usable for me :) Here are a few bugs I've found (Core 2 Duo, 8GB RAM, Windows 7 Pro SP1):
  1. Threads still take far too long to render in the preview pane
  2. When a message contains an attachment only, the attachment does not show up in the preview pane. As a matter of fact, I'd say that the display of attachments is problematic in general. I'm often forced to go to File -> Attachments to reliably see exactly what's in each email
It would be awesome if these bugs could be addressed, thanks!
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Judah Richardson 7/5/11 11:37 AM
I should add that I'm running Thunderbird 5.0 + Lightning 1.0b4 + Thunderbird Conversations 2.0.3, and the email account in question is an IMAP one.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/5/11 12:15 PM
Hi,

https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/FAQ see "there is
some delay when unfolding a message" +
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/299

Cheers,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/5/11 12:15 PM
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/FAQ

"attachments are not displayed"

Cheers,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Judah Richardson 7/5/11 12:22 PM
This fixed the problem, thanks a lot :)
R: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread cianoz 7/6/11 12:17 AM
Hello. I just tried Conversations on my TB 5. The tool is cool and useful, but my considerations are these:
• It seems to conflict with extensions that operate in the message area; for example if you have Toolbar Buttons or Display Mail User Agent these are replaced / disabled by Conversations.
• Buttons provided with Conversations are limiting: you can't add or remove buttons and you can't chose to have descriptions along with buttons.
This penalizes intuitiveness for handling the message(s)

All my users at office asked to me to disable Conversations for these reasons.
Hope you can consider these feedback.
Thanks.
Re: R: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/6/11 12:28 AM
Hi,


On 07/06/2011 09:17 AM, cianoz wrote:
Hello. I just tried Conversations on my TB 5. The tool is cool and useful, but my considerations are these:
� It seems to conflict with extensions that operate in the message area; for example if you have Toolbar Buttons or Display Mail User Agent these are replaced / disabled by Conversations.
Well it's just that I'm replacing the standard message reader, so these addons have to make an extra effort to be compatible with me. Please point these extension authors to <http://blog.xulforum.org/index.php?post/2010/11/27/Thunderbird-Conversations-plugins>. I briefly considered patching every Thunderbird extension to make sure they work fine with Conversations, but I figured out it may take a little bit long.
� Buttons provided with Conversations are limiting: you can't add or remove buttons and you can't chose to have descriptions along with buttons.

This penalizes intuitiveness for handling the message(s)
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/278

Thanks for the feedback,

jonathan

All my users at office asked to me to disable Conversations for these reasons.
Hope you can consider these feedback.
Thanks.
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread HolStein 7/6/11 1:40 AM
Hi,
Conversations is a really nice add-on and it makes my life a little easier, so thank you very much for developing it! There is just one thing that gets on my nerves sometimes: I'm missing the Reply / Forward buttons in the panel above the message view window, as it used to be without Conversations. These buttons have been moved to the bottom of the actual message and with long messages I have to scroll down entirely to get to these buttons (or right-click on the message in the list and use the context-menu). Could you add these buttons to the panel along the "show in new tab", etc., buttons?

Best regards!
HolStein
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread andreamonni 7/6/11 2:37 AM
Jonothan - have you thought setting up a GetSatisfaction page for
Conversations? It's probably better suited to handle lot of
requests/comments being discussed here at the moment.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anand Ethiraj 7/6/11 8:52 AM
Conversion feature is nice and rocking !!!

I believe below feature also should be added. 

In the message list window, the emails are grouped for conversions, I am not seeing top most email as unread message rather sub thread as unread. This doesnt look good. Whenever thread has the new mail, whole mail thread ( or header) should be in unread state, on clicking the sub arrow, it should the have last message as unread.  

Please update this feature as like gmail. 
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Stephen Jacura 7/6/11 11:03 AM
The app is great. Previously I "lost" all my 2011 received emails. Don't know how, just know that one morning I added new received emails to folders, closed TB, went back in the afternoon and although the 2011 folder was there, everything else including specific folder and emails, for both personal and business, were gone, gone, gone.

Since updating to the new version of TB and adding conversations, they're "back" via the conversation app. The folders and emails are still gone from 2011, but they show up in conversation.

Other than that I've not really used it a lot, but am planning to in the near future.

So, overall, great app.
Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Rocky 7/6/11 12:29 PM
hey, this addon is really nice. but there are three things i wanna mention:

1. You can't add a new contact from the mail-header like it's possible without the addon.

2. an reply button on the top is missing. so i have to scroll down the whole mail to klick the reply button

3. watching a mail, there are many other mail-headers shown minimized on the top. but thesese mails have nothing to do with the topic or the contact i'm writing with/about.


if you are interested i'll show you some screenshots on this problems. but never the less great work so far ;-)

with best regards
Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Scott Sanders 7/6/11 12:39 PM
You can add contacts in the big tooltip on mousing over the sender name.

For those missing reply/forward buttons, you might add them to and use the Thunderbird toolbar, at least for the interim.
Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread neo 7/6/11 4:11 PM
Very nice plugin! There was until now just one annoying thing: when answering directly to an email with the small textfield underneath it, the cited message isn't reformatted which leads to incorrect line breaks.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan D. 7/7/11 7:12 AM
Hi!

First: thanks for this great addon.

Secondly : I'm concerned by some problems:
- I use a dark theme on my system (KDE - Obsidian coast) so some things are badly displayed. For example, white text on light button. When you force some background color, you should also force font color so that you are sure to get the required contrast to have things readable.
- Like mentioned Rocky about the reply button which is a the bottom, attachment are also at the bottom and you need to scroll to see the attachment list while there are always displayed without this addon. It's a personal feeling. I know that's a problem of best usage of the display area.
- When I receive mails that are a forward of somebody, the original header (informations about the sender, recipient, ...) is displayed as message snippet when the message is collapsed but this informations are not visible when I expand the message.

Thanks again for this addon.

Regards.

Jonathan D.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/7/11 7:16 AM
Hi,


On 07/07/2011 04:12 PM, Jonathan D. wrote:
Hi!

First: thanks for this great addon.
Thanks :-).


Secondly : I'm concerned by some problems:
- I use a dark theme on my system (KDE - Obsidian coast) so some things are badly displayed. For example, white text on light button. When you force some background color, you should also force font color so that you are sure to get the required contrast to have things readable.
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/189 feel free to give us a hand !

- Like mentioned Rocky about the reply button which is a the bottom, attachment are also at the bottom and you need to scroll to see the attachment list while there are always displayed without this addon. It's a personal feeling. I know that's a problem of best usage of the display area.
Right. If someone comes with a valid UI mockup I can implement it.

- When I receive mails that are a forward of somebody, the original header (informations about the sender, recipient, ...) is displayed as message snippet when the message is collapsed but this informations are not visible when I expand the message.
That's strange. Please send me a screenshot describing the issue (privately) and also forward the message that causes the issue to me (Message > Forward As > Attachment).

j.

Thanks again for this addon.

Regards.

Jonathan D.
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Alan Grover 7/7/11 9:48 AM
Is there a way to limit the conversations to those that have an unread message? I don't want to see conversations in the list that are all "read"?

If I filter by "unread", the full conversation isn't shown, only the unread portions.

And, of course, I would like to give a custom filter the conversations. I typically want to see unread and starred.
Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread mtemp 7/7/11 11:25 AM
After selecting text of an email and replying to it the whole email will be quoted and not only my selection.

Bug or feature or option? ;)

Thank!
mtemp
Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/7/11 2:26 PM
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/174

Don't hold your breath, though, not likely an easy fix. This is low
priority.

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Rich Renomeron 7/7/11 5:45 PM
On 07/07/2011 10:16 AM, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:

- Like mentioned Rocky about the reply button which is a the bottom, attachment are also at the bottom and you need to scroll to see the attachment list while there are always displayed without this addon. It's a personal feeling. I know that's a problem of best usage of the display area.
Right. If someone comes with a valid UI mockup I can implement it.

I'll try my best to do a valid UI mockup in a bit (I suppose that means start with a screenshot and play in Gimp), but I think the general idea is to emulate Gmail, which means (roughly) this:
  • Add the reply/forward options to the "more" menu, then rename the menu with the default option (reply/reply to all/reply to list), and possibly changing it from a link to a button.
  • Add a small paperclip icon in the header line when there is an attachment, with a tooltip value that is the name of the first attachment.
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Marthinus 7/8/11 1:08 AM
It works pretty well except I'd like to have reply and forward buttons at the top next to the more and the date as well.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Marthinus 7/8/11 1:18 AM
If somebody requested a delivery receipt and I have set Thunderbird to prompt me on what action to take the prompt is never displayed.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/8/11 2:02 AM
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/129

This is a low-priority item.

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread James Morrish 7/8/11 3:29 AM
Please can we have a setting to "archive on delete", so that when I hit the delete button it archives the thread rather than deletes it?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/8/11 3:39 AM
The button left of the delete button is the archive button...

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread James Morrish 7/8/11 3:51 AM
Sorry, I meant the delete button on my keyboard.

The problem is that I use my keyboard as much as possible, rather than using the mouse. I use the up and down arrow keys to scroll through messages in my inbox, and read the message in the preview pane on the right. If I don't want to reply to a message I just hit the delete button on the keyboard. So rather than deleting the message I would like to archive it. 
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Pedro Sierra 7/8/11 8:52 AM
well, something odd its happening with conversations view. in old mails attachment isnt visible until i set classic view on. I still love thunderbird anyway
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Kevin Brosnan 7/8/11 9:19 AM
I've yet to find a good way to get Thunderbird to sort by the date of the most recent message in a conversation. I usually end up using the unread button to find the last few messages that are unread, yay inbox:0.

When filtering (ctrl + f) I don't like that the message trees are expanded.

Thank you for making this extension, it has been working well for me!

-kbrosnan
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Hugo Verissimo 7/8/11 11:03 AM
Hi there,

Version 2.04 is working fine in general but I have one issue.

The email headers without Conversations installed is something like:
      Hugo Verissimo (ma...@mail.com) To Friend (fri...@mail.com)
With Conversation installed it comes something like this:
      Hugo Verissimo To Friend

For general use it is ok, but sometimes, for example, when printing, it would be interesting to have at least an option to display the emails. For example to prove that a contact was made, for archiving, etc.

ugoveri
Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Paul Centis 7/8/11 11:41 AM
I answer in french:

j'ai essayé et c'est surprenant mais ça me plait bien!!!!
Je pense qu'il me faudra le temps de vraiment m'y habituer!!!
sans doute que je garderai cette extension....

thanks and regards
Paul
Re: Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Lucien 7/8/11 2:46 PM
Bonjour

It's quite good.
but some times the attached documents do not appear. I have to open in a tab to get to the document.
Re: Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/8/11 3:44 PM
http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/8/11 3:44 PM
http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq

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Re: Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Lucien 7/9/11 1:44 AM
bien, ça marche !

thanks
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Philip Gardner 7/9/11 1:51 AM
It's great - thank you. But please put the Reply and Forward buttons in the header bar, next to the other tool icons; it's annoying to have to scroll down to see them if the conversation is long.
Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Martin Weißhaupt 7/9/11 3:49 AM
I really like Thunderbird Conversations but I prefer to have my reply and signature on top of the mail.


If you use the classic view in Thunderbird it respects your settings for the account but Thunderbird Conversations does not. Please respect the settings for writing and replying.
Thx
Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/9/11 4:02 AM
Thunderbird Conversations is supposed to respect your account settings
concerning top posting vs. bottom posting... if it's not, please create
an issue on the bugtracker.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread David Matteson 7/9/11 5:19 AM
I agree with Phil, I'd like Reply and Forward buttons in the toolbar.  Other than that it's great and has made Thunderbird even more enjoyable for me. :)
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Markus D. 7/9/11 7:41 AM
using thunderbird 5 with conversations 2.0.4 and having character encoding issues with the following thread (messages encrypted with enigmail btw):

- first message encoded iso-8859-1: everything displays well
- next messages in utf-8: some chars (like ä,ö,ü) are displayed wrong (I think because they are displayed in iso-8859-1 encoding)

Without the addon everything displays well in single view of message.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/9/11 10:49 AM
I'd appreciate if you could forward the faulty message to me. Use Message > Forward As > Attachment in the menus.

Thanks,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread charli 7/9/11 11:28 AM
Hi...this extention its great, but it has a big problem: the attachment files cant be previwed unless you open the mail with the classic viewer. If you fix this problem, this exetention will be perfect.

Keep working, you are doing great...Thx to share your work!
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Markus Doits 7/9/11 12:33 PM
I just tried to reproduce the problem with non-encrypted mails but I
couldn't. A mix of iso and utf-8 mails didn't confuse the addon. So
looks like a problem in combination with enigmail.

I'll see if the error happens with new mails from now on, and will try
to reproduce it with test-encrypted mails if it happens again (which
I'll forward here and to enigmail's list then).

thanks for your offer to help btw.

Markus

On 09.07.11 19:49, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
> I'd appreciate if you could forward the faulty message to me. Use
> Message > Forward As > *Attachment* in the menus.

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/9/11 1:13 PM
Sorry, I hadn't picked up the "enigmail" part of your message.

https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/256

jonathan

On 07/09/2011 09:33 PM, Markus Doits wrote:
> I just tried to reproduce the problem with non-encrypted mails but I
> couldn't. A mix of iso and utf-8 mails didn't confuse the addon. So
> looks like a problem in combination with enigmail.
>
> I'll see if the error happens with new mails from now on, and will try
> to reproduce it with test-encrypted mails if it happens again (which
> I'll forward here and to enigmail's list then).
>
> thanks for your offer to help btw.
>
> Markus
>
> On 09.07.11 19:49, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
>> I'd appreciate if you could forward the faulty message to me. Use
>> Message>  Forward As>  *Attachment* in the menus.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> jonathan
>>
>> On 07/09/2011 04:41 PM, Markus D. wrote:
>>> using thunderbird 5 with conversations 2.0.4 and having character
>>> encoding issues with the following thread (messages encrypted with
>>> enigmail btw):
>>>
>>> - first message encoded iso-8859-1: everything displays well
>>> - next messages in utf-8: some chars (like �,�,�) are displayed wrong

>>> (I think because they are displayed in iso-8859-1 encoding)
>>>
>>> Without the addon everything displays well in single view of message.
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Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Rahul Kopikar 7/10/11 12:29 AM
Yea I agree with Martin. After installing Thunderbird conversations, the Reply & Reply All buttons get moved to the bottom of the email. I would apporeciate it if you could keep it as the same original location (i.e. at the top of the email).
Also, Reply All is the default in THunderbird Converastions. Would prefered to have both buttons (Reply & Reply All) side by side.
Except for the above limitation, I think its a gr8 app! Simply loved it!!

Regards,
Rahul
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/10/11 12:50 AM
Hi,

The translation takes place on Babelzilla, at the following address : <http://www.babelzilla.org/index.php?option=com_wts&Itemid=0&type=show&extension=5372>. I'm not personally checking every translation, so what you can do is either:
- register on Babelzilla and fix the translation (you can then ask me to prepare a test build for you) or,
- email the translator on Babelzilla and ask him to fix his translation.

Thanks,

jonathan

Le 10/07/11 09:04, Gabriel Llamas a écrit :
Hi,

I recently migrated from Windows Live Mail to Thunderbird and I've been using Thunderbird Conversation for about 4 days. I just want to say that the spanish translation is not correctly when you receive a mail and you see in the header the person who sent the message. It's something like Google for Me, right? But in spanish says Google para Yo instead of Google para Mí. is Me and Yo is I.

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Tungkol: Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread glenmaps 7/10/11 9:15 AM
Hi,

Thanks for this great extension, very nice and useful. But I just notice that this extension is not able to consolidate all messages/replies of the related "email subject" into one message, that would be great, just like how gmail handled it.

Thanks again.
Re: Tungkol: Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/10/11 9:47 AM
Hi,

See http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq " Your add-on doesn’t thread my messages correctly! / Unrelated messages in the same conversation"

Cheers,

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Dennis Jakobsen 7/10/11 11:17 AM
Hi,

I'd prefer if the reply, forward buttons weren't followed by a textbox (atleast until i click the reply or forward button).

Loving it otherwise :)

regards
Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anselm 7/10/11 12:41 PM
I really love the tool, but I'd prefer the design to be more in the thunderbird gui. From point of view it is very processor intense or at least slow.

Thanks a lot for the work!

Greetings
Anselm
Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread John Harris 7/10/11 2:33 PM
Scott Sanders <scottmitch...@gmail.com> wrote:

For those missing reply/forward buttons, you might add them to and use the Thunderbird toolbar, at least for the interim.

Thanks for the suggestion Scott. I had hopes that this would take care of the problem that myself and many others recently have commented about. It also places the buttons in a much better location, compared to way on the right side of the screen as in Conversations. (Small buttons that are far away are a big UI no-no). It's working pretty well, but not perfect so far, with the toolbar version sometimes dimmed out and non functional. This can happen even when the Shift-Ctrl-R keyboard shortcut still works.

I'm starting to use the keyboard more and more as my personal work-around for the lack of convenient reply buttons.

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Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/10/11 3:20 PM
Hi,

We're currently exploring options to better deal with the problems
you've all encountered (namely, reply / etc. buttons being
sub-optimal), and we'll try to come up with something fresh for the
next version.

Cheers,

jonathan

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Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jens 7/10/11 8:44 PM
First: Great tool! I love this view of my conversations.
-
It would be great to get a better response when you click on a link in a email. Under Ubuntu i recognize it only when my browser starts after clicking on a link. Sorry when i miss the option for that.

Thx
Jens
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Mahendran P 7/11/11 3:53 AM
Hi,

The add-on is working great so far without any issues at all.
It would be great if we have the option of including original attachments when we do "Reply or Reply all".
great work.
keep it up.

Regards,
Mahendran Paramasivam
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Noel Grandin 7/11/11 5:34 AM
Hi

Nice work, I'm impressed with how far it has come. 

Feature request: I would love for an option to switch the message buttons (archive/junk/delete/print/etc.) to use text labels rather than icons. I have a large screen, and enough space to show text on buttons, and I'm finding it hard to decipher what each button means.

Thanks! Keep up the good work!

Regards, Noel.
Mac / Conv. 2.0.4 Stephen Fitch 7/11/11 6:14 AM
Thank you for this superb addon... however, please see this reply selection bug that seems to involve the addon.

Regression: Quote just the selected portion of a message during Reply

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670430

It seems to affect at least me on TB 5.0 Mac OS X 10.6.7

Hopefully this will get fixed shortly.. I'm going to keep using the addon anyway ;-)

Thanks - Stephen

Re: Mac / Conv. 2.0.4 Akarsh Seggemu 7/11/11 6:23 AM
i was going to install the mac os x snow leopard.

-regards

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R: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Claudio Messora 7/11/11 7:00 AM
i find it interesting but also extremely.. extremely slow!
I didn't go through initial setup: I thought I would have been able to do it at a later time but the system never showed me the configuration window again. May be it depends on it? How can I remove Conversations, and perhaps reinstall it?
Re: R: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/11/11 7:02 AM
The setup assistant is available through the addon's options, in the
advanced section. We're aware that it's slow, we'll try to do something
about it in the future versions of Thunderbird.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Marcio Gil 7/11/11 7:47 AM
Hi,

Conversations is great, but the single thing which I don't like is the missing buttons Send, Forward, Delete (single message), on the top of messages. I don't like to scroll to the end of e-mail or to choice the menu Message.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Thomas 7/11/11 10:18 AM
Hello,
as I was asked to give some feedback, I started to read all the other posts, but there are a bit too much of them.
So I have no idea if this is said before.
I like the add on very much, but miss two things:
-I can't see/acces the attachments in the conversations
-I would like to be able to see all the email addresses of all the people I have the conversation with at the same time, as possible in Gmail. Now I can only check one email address at a time by hovering over the name.

I can't think of something else for now. Thanks anyway!


Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/11/11 10:50 AM
Hi,

On 07/11/2011 07:18 PM, Thomas Langbroek wrote:
> Hello,
> as I was asked to give some feedback, I started to read all the other
> posts, but there are a bit too much of them.
> So I have no idea if this is said before.
> I like the add on very much, but miss two things:
> -I can't see/acces the attachments in the conversations
http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq

> -I would like to be able to see all the email addresses of all the
> people I have the conversation with at the same time, as possible in
> Gmail. Now I can only check one email address at a time by hovering
> over the name.
We're considering options for that as you're not the first one to voice
this request.

Thanks,

jonathan


> I can't think of something else for now. Thanks anyway!
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread shifty.rhino 7/11/11 4:40 PM
Hi,

Love Conversations.  Here's my 2 cents.

I think the layout and organization of the messages is dead on.  Makes it easy to rip through long email threads and catch up on on old or branching discussions.

My only problem with the add-on is how it handles the archive functionality.  I'm not sure how to move messages sent by me out of my inbox once I've finished with an email trail.  From what I've read, Thunderbirds Archive functionality will send ALL messages (including messages I've sent) to my respective archive folders if used to archive a conversation.  I don't really want copies of my sent messages in both my sent messages directory and my archive directory.  To be specific, the action I'd appreciate would be:

1. Archive all messages not sent by me to the correct archive folder associated with the email account in use
2. Remove references to emails not in my inbox (i.e. found by Conversations in other directories, such as sent mail).
3. Leave original emails in their respective folders (i.e. sent mail, archived messages, etc.)

Not sure if that's currently possible and I'm just botching something, or if the current release (I'm using 2.0.6 as of writing) does not operate in this manner.

Love the layout, and hope my aspirations for the Archive function are in line with the development path of Conversations.

Ryan
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread shifty.rhino 7/11/11 5:32 PM
Hmmm, I actually think that something may be a bit broken with Conversations/Thunderbird on my machine.  I'm seeing two types of behavior.

1. For two of my accounts, all messages in the Sent directory are being copied into my inbox.  It appears that there are two copies of these sent messages, one copy is in my sent message directory and the other copy being in my inbox.  Odd.

2. For other accounts, no emails are being moved from my sent directory.  Opening a conversation does show all related messages and provides links to jump to the appropriate directory where needed.  I believe this is the correct behavior for the add-on.

Anyone have ideas on what I could be doing wrong here?

Ryan
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Rick Fenster 7/11/11 9:00 PM
It works well but one thing I note when using Gmail via IMAP and BlackBerry email is that with autosaving drafts, it make a million copies. I don't know if it's a flaw on the extension's side or just how BIS handles things.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anand Ethiraj 7/11/11 11:13 PM
Good lovable functionality.

Following feature should be mandatory for the conversations. Whenever we got a new mail, mail list contains read mail in the top and on-clicking the arrow button it shows you the bottom mail as unread. It doesn't look good. Whenever thread gets the new mail, header of the mail thread along with the latest mail should be in unread status. Otherwise it is getting confused. 

Other possible option might be, please sort the mail thread in the descending order. then to it will be good, in displaying the latest one as unread and it should be in top of the mail list.

Thanks,
Anand
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Hendrik Maryns 7/12/11 1:09 AM
Nice work.

It’s a nice Google remake, but disadvantages compared to the classis view:
- space bar, n and delete do not always work, I haven’t found out exactly when yet, seems to have something to do with focus.
- I want to be able to add a contact to my address book with one click.

Cheers, H.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Rodolpho Lima 7/12/11 3:55 AM
Hi,

I think the Thunderbird Conversations is a very good add-on. Is realy a very good job.
My only suggestion is that you put a response box with the same settings as the normal editor. In my case, every time I'll answer a message I have the character ">" to indicate the received message. I do not like it, but I have no option to change.

Thank you for your add-on.

Regards,

Rodolpho Lima
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Scott Sanders 7/12/11 9:42 AM
Conversations will not save attachments with spaces in the file name -- for example, CLASICOS_metadata_7_11 with decimals.xls.

I have to open the classic reader to save it.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Daniel Hall 7/12/11 4:27 PM
Hi,

I just had a quick question about multiple gmail accounts within Thunderbird using Conversations. I installed the add-on that is on the Mozilla add-ons site and it created a unified inbox, however I have three seperate IMAP based gmail accounts setup within Thunderbird and they are for seperate purposes and should not be unified together.

Is there anyway to have multiple unified Inboxes, in this case 1 per email account?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Mircea 7/12/11 10:23 PM
Hi, i just poped in to say a few impressions about conversations. I've been using it for a week or so, what I don't like is the font size, they are just to small. I've seen this issue discussed already, I hope you'll have a config solution soon.



Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Mitra Ardron 7/12/11 10:29 PM
I really like this extension, but I'd like to see it keeping more of the thunderbird features, specifically I miss
* being able to DETACH an attachment from within a message (I do this rather than download as it saves a LOT of space in backups - especially with Time Machine).
* seeing which of the recipients of a message are in my address book already
* seeing the rest of the recipients of a message sent to a lot of people

Basically I'm looking for the best of Thunderbird functionality, with the conversation folding that this extension does.

- Mitra

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Noel Grandin 7/13/11 12:16 AM
Thunderbird Conversations 2.0.6 does not seem to be compatible with using GMail over IMAP, my GMail account just hangs in the connecting phase.

Regards, Noel.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/13/11 12:33 AM
In the menus : View > Folder > All

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/13/11 12:33 AM
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/faq

See the "fonts" item.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/13/11 12:34 AM

On 07/13/2011 07:29 AM, Mitra Ardron wrote:
> I really like this extension, but I'd like to see it keeping more of
> the thunderbird features, specifically I miss
> * being able to DETACH an attachment from within a message (I do this
> rather than download as it saves a LOT of space in backups -
> especially with Time Machine).
I don't plan on implementing this.

> * seeing which of the recipients of a message are in my address book
> already
Why not.

> * seeing the rest of the recipients of a message sent to a lot of people
You can click on the ellipsis ("...") to show the rest of the recipients.

jonathan


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> the conversation folding that this extension does.
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Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread c. m. 7/13/11 12:36 AM
hi,

it is possible to answer only to the writer of an email, not to all of the recipients as standard? In the moment i answer to all recipients if i want to use the included text area. But that isn't realy usefull.

thanks.
Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Ralph K. 7/13/11 12:52 AM
Hi,

I am using Thunderbird 5.0 in the workplace and following things disturb me:
  • A double click on a message open a tree with the complete email thread in a new tab. How can I change this, I have configured that new emails should be opened in a new window.
  • How can I set the font size in the thread tree? The emails in the threads have different font size, I'd like to set all emails to one font size.
I hope there is a simple solution or it is simple to configure, but until now I could not solve these problems!

Best regards,

Ralph
Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/13/11 12:54 AM
Hi,


On 07/13/2011 09:52 AM, Ralph K. wrote:
Hi,

I am using Thunderbird 5.0 in the workplace and following things disturb me:
  • A double click on a message open a tree with the complete email thread in a new tab. How can I change this, I have configured that new emails should be opened in a new window.
I do not plan on implementing this. See <https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/322#issuecomment-1554459>

  • How can I set the font size in the thread tree? The emails in the threads have different font size, I'd like to set all emails to one font size.
http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq

I hope there is a simple solution or it is simple to configure, but until now I could not solve these problems!

Best regards,
Cheers,

jonathan

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Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread SteveP 7/13/11 1:46 AM
I am starting to get used to using the threads. I just don't like that the reply and forward is at the bottom, maybe it should be at both the top and bottom.

Some time in long emails it is not convenient to have to scroll to the bottom just to reply.

my thoughts.
Re: Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/13/11 1:54 AM
Hi Everyone,

Please do not use this thread anymore, see
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla-labs/CZbSaSpnBxE>.

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Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread bguillemain 7/13/11 2:22 AM
Hi,

I encounter a readability problem at work : we have an issue tracker which sends emails with generic emitting email addresses associated to the name of the actual emitter, eg:
"John Doe via TrackerTool" <d...@example.com>
"Julie Smith via TrackerTool" <exploi...@example.com>

In such a thread, all messages from the development team will appear as "John Doe via TrackerTool", regardless of who actually sent the message.
Could you please consider :
- using the Thunderbird "mail.showCondensedAddresses" advanced property, to be able to display the sender as specified in the message header ?
- or implementing some other mechanism to prevent the sender name from being replaced for a particular set of email addresses

Thanks.
Aw: Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread ThunderBirdUser 7/13/11 4:29 AM
What I don't like about this new feature is, how slow it often is. It should react much faster. It's still doesn't feel as smooth as GMail.

Aw: Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread ThunderBirdUser 7/13/11 4:31 AM
What I miss too: The possibility to show all Emails with an extensive header. In the list. Not opening each individually with "Show source".
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread László Pál 7/14/11 3:24 AM
Perfect. I like it
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread David Warren 7/14/11 10:30 AM
I really like the new Conversations with Thunderbird 5, my major complaint though is including previous text when you reply and then putting the cursor after the text. I know that this emulates gmail a bit, but in gmail the cursor is put before the quoted text so the new text is above it.

Could you either remove the quoted text all together or put the cursor above the quoted text? I know I hate it when i get a reply from someone and they give me a short response with a huge trail of quoted text, this is what I want to avoid.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/14/11 10:49 AM
These are all customizable options. Use your account settings, section
"composition & addressing".

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread David Warren 7/14/11 11:25 AM
I never knew those options existed! Thanks Jonathan!

I guess other than that, Conversations got me to use Thunderbird again.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Ryan Jendoubi 7/14/11 11:55 PM
Mostly great, my one quibble is that I use middle-mouse scroll a lot in my email pane. For some reason with Conversations middle-click and drag doesn't work on the main email content, only on the light blue border around it at the edge of the pane, if you know what I mean. This is a very small problem, but would likely be more annoying if I was confined to my dodgy laptop trackpad :-)
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/15/11 12:45 AM
Yeah, this is
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/291

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Hein Westerouen van Meeteren 7/15/11 4:30 AM
Hi, the overview is fine, but I have to return to classical view to see the images. It could be smarter. I'll try to get used to it, but it takes more time. 
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread jean 7/15/11 6:10 PM
Great addition, thanks
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Kit Logan 7/15/11 6:15 PM
Not really had that much chance to review all the intricacies of conversations so far. A little puzzled about your report about TB 3.3, when the last automatic update stated it was TB 5? However, I do like the way conversations is more natural in having the threads in the viewing window rather than the hassle of trying to follow threads in the list of emails.

I'll give more feedback as I go along and have a chance to play.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Peter Feerick 7/16/11 1:56 AM
Jonathan,

I've been using Conversations on and off for about five - six months now, and have to say it's a great addon for Thunderbird. I had a few gripes with the pre-2.0 versions, but 2.0 coupled with Thunderbird 5 seams to work just fine. Of course, as with any software / product that you haven't written yourself, there are minor gripes with how it works that I still have, but as I said, they're minor, and I can't argue with the price! :)

Great work, and I look forward to more great feaures...
Peter
R: Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Sergio Fabrizi 7/16/11 3:44 PM
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Aw: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Andre Weigel 7/17/11 3:12 AM
Ich mag die Erweiterung sehr. Nur mich stört z.B., dass bei einfacher Mail auch der Conversation View verwendet wird. Existiert auch die Möglichkeit, dass Conversation View Mails aus unterschiedlichen Email-Konten zusammenfasst?
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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Tweety 7/18/11 12:46 AM
 When I receive messages the view of the message is too small, I have to zoom it several times to be able to read it?
Pls help

Thanks

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/18/11 1:32 AM
http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Adrin 7/18/11 2:54 AM
Hi,
The plugin is amazing. Just has a few issues.

For starters, if I open a message in a tab the previous and next buttons are disabled. This is a bit troublesome if I have a lot of unread emails. I need to go back to the Inbox tab and open the next unread message.

Another this is if there is a long mail thread and if I click on a particular reply (from that thread) from the inbox, it focuses on some other message in the thread, with all the other replies collapsed. This behaviour is inconsistent, sometimes it focuses on the proper message (usually when it is in the unread state), sometimes it just focuses on the latest reply in the thread.

Thanks and Regards,
Adrin.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread b12roll 7/18/11 8:21 AM
It would be nice to have an option to choose whether or not you can reply or reply all in the quick reply box of the conversation view.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/18/11 9:27 AM
This is fixed already and will be in the 2.1 release.

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Barry Weingart 7/18/11 9:43 AM
This is a great extension!!!

I would like an option to force my reply to the top or bottom - maybe there is, but I am unsure how to do this.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread b12roll 7/18/11 9:49 AM
I don't know if the extension is capable of doing this, but it would
be nice if the conversation could move all threads within it into the
same folder.  Currently I have to do this through message filters.
It's nice that the extension does tell you where the message is
located, though.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 7/18/11 9:56 AM
It's a standard Thunderbird feature, use your account settings, section
"composition and addressing".

Cheers,

jonathan

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Steve Childress 7/18/11 10:56 AM
Hi,

I like the Conversations View. It is a nice look compared to the default view. The only drawback for me is the time it takes to load the first email I choose to view when I open Thunderbird.

Steve
Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Yves L 7/18/11 11:46 AM
Ok here is some feedback :
The pre requisites that the wizard make me go through are a bit unclear. What happens if i deselect such or such option? Why is this column mandatory ? What would it change in my experience ? I fin the column "unread" and "between" to be useless to me so I make them narrow but why can't the plugin make use of it without bothering me ? I do not like to see the sent mails with my received emails, does it make the plugin work less efficiently ? I do not have the basis to make the right decision for me.

Apart from that I find the extension very usefull. The expression search is invaluable and I wish it could be available to search in all folder at once, not just the currect one.  The global search is too much "brute force" type of search instead of relying on a little intelligence and help from the power(ish) user to find results quickly.

I like the resizing of the images too in gallery view

Keep up the good work,

Yves
Re: Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread (Bug found: extra spaces shown when there aren't any) Marco Rietveld 7/18/11 1:30 PM
Hi,

It's hard to tell exactly what's happening/the cause of this, but I'm seeing the following:

When I look at a thread/conversation -- the first time -- the plugin sometimes adds a bunch of new lines onto the end of the message -- it seems like it hides the text, but forgets to shorten the message afterwards. If I select another conversation and then come back to it, the messages appear as they should.

Otherwise, great plugin! Saves me LOTS of time reading the way too much e-mail that I get.

Thanks,
Marco
Re: Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread (Bug found: extra spaces shown when there aren't any) Jonathan Protzenko 7/18/11 1:31 PM
This is a bug that's fixed in the upcoming 2.0.7 version.

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Re : Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread le vilain 7/18/11 2:07 PM
hi
this extension is great.

Alas since my migration to TB 5 the performances are low.

well
I've migrated automaticaly from TB3.
I've a huge mail collection
and my Thunderbird have 24 extensions

waiting for a new computer to migrate my mail on a new clean TB5 and confirm my feeling.
anyway good job, thank you

Best Re
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anton Helm 7/18/11 4:10 PM
Hello,

first of all, I want to say thank you for this wonderful addon. I really enjoy it.

There is only one thing which can be improved. Every time I got a new message in one conversation which is collapsed, it's difficult to figure out where in which conversation I have a new message. Basically I have to expand every conversation and find the new message. It would be nice if it marks conversations with new posts. Maybe there is a possibility to do it and I didn't find it.

Best regards.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Scott Sanders 7/18/11 5:00 PM
If you mean threads, there should be a little talk bubble with a
yellow "new" star on a message which begins a thread with new messages
-- not too obvious though (bolding this message might be better).
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Anton Helm 7/18/11 5:21 PM

All collapsed. Didn't realized that it's underlined.


After expand:


If it would be bold then it would be easier to see.

Just my point of view.

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread ydna 7/19/11 3:46 AM
Hey man nice addon. Apart from the occasional bug it works well enough. Though one problem I have with it though, is its speed. Its seems to be slower than normal thunderbird. Anyway you could potentially code in (or out) some speed boosts?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Frank Nieuwenhuizen 7/20/11 1:26 AM
I really like Conversations. Some feedback as I was prompted for it:

- For me it would be good to have an option to set the reply button to Reply by default, such that one has to choose to Reply all. In my workflow I find that easier than to have to think about setting the correct option.
- It would be great to have an option to create and destroy threads manually. Some people just press reply and change the subject, which results in messages grouped together that do not belong together.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Vincent Renaudineau 7/25/11 3:37 AM
Hi,
Like others, I love this add-on, but I think 
1 - threads with new messages must be bold instead of underlined for more visibility ; 
2 - messages of a same thread must have the same subject (without Re:, Fwd:, etc).
Indeed, rather than to add all of our friends, we just do reply on an old message, so I get a big
thread with all conversations for my group of friends. (Yes I can do a predefined group in 
thunderdird, but all my friends can't, and gmail do it very well).
Regards,
Vincent

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread amyb 8/1/11 8:52 AM
I use this add-on for work and I generally like it. Sometimes attachments don't show up, though, so I have to switch to the classic view.

One thing that does drive me crazy about this add-on is that the text is so small. I have to do ctrl + on nearly every email just to read it. I've considered dropping this add-on for that reason.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 8/1/11 8:59 AM
http://wiki.github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/faq

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Gopal Venkatesan 8/9/11 9:15 AM
Love this add-on! I noticed one bug, if I start reading each of the messages in a conversation through the message view, the corresponding message in the message list is not marked read.

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Joe Moore 8/30/11 9:19 AM
i do like this add on but have noticed one issue. When ever some forwards an email to me and I rvew the forwarded message in the conversation, it does not show the email address of the original sender. In most cases I need to send response to original sender but have to either click on reply or forward to get the original email address (header information).
 
Do I have something set incorrectly>
Odp: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Miesiu 8/30/11 11:25 PM
For me this is quite good.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread matt magi 9/27/11 9:33 PM
Hi,

I just upgraded to Thunderbird 7.0 for Mac. I then used the built in add-on search to find and install Thunderbird Conversations 2.1.1

Once I installed I clicked on "start the setup assistant" and it pretty well closes instantly then changes my thunderbird view to "unified folders"

I do not see any changes, I do not see this working?!

Any suggestions?! 


Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Scott Sanders 10/12/11 1:48 PM
Someone earlier mentioned the find bar (Ctrl+F) which let you search
for text in a single message but is apparently disabled by
Conversations.

I would really like to have this feature back somehow.
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Nancy Mouth 10/12/11 4:07 PM
Hi, I´m not good in English, but I´ll try.....I like very much the Thunderbird Conversation but I have a question....I Think that before I change my PC the last email apeared at the end....I installed again and now the last email comes inside the first and this change I didn´t like, because when I put the email in date order, which has a first date comes first.....and it´s is not good for me.
thanks...
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 10/13/11 12:39 AM
In the menus : View > Sort By > Ascending / Descending

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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 10/13/11 12:40 AM
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues/241
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Luigi Rosadini 10/13/11 2:43 AM
Bellissimo programma che uso da sempre.
Con il nuovo stile conversation tipa 'gmail'
è ancora più facile e efficace.

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 11/2/11 9:05 AM
Hi,

Gmail cuts a thread at 100 messages. Because of the way internal
threading works in Thunderbird, I (unfortunately) can't do that. Thanks
for the suggestion, though :)

Cheers,

jonathan

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Guillo 11/2/11 9:16 AM
Wow, thanks for he fast response.

I'm not english native speaker, perhaps I was not clear.

My request was not about cut the threads, but to group the messages
even when there is not "conversation" going on (more like a
monologue ;-) ), basically, to group all the messages coming from
someone with the same subject, even if is not a response in the
middle.

Or perhaps that's what you are unable to do due to thunderbird
limitations?

Cheers,


Guillermo


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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jonathan Protzenko 11/2/11 9:24 AM
Sorry, I misunderstood your question. You should read
https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/What-is-threading
then :)

jonathan

Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Guillo 11/2/11 12:47 PM
Ah, interesting.
I changed the settings, lets see how it works now...
Thank you!


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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Peter Affen 11/1/12 11:49 AM
hi,

can you make the toolbar above the messages more like gmail? i'd like to have the "back"-button.
maybe i find time to get into thunderbird extensions coding, but for now i can only suggest that feature ;)

also: thanks for that amazing addon! maybe i can finaly free my soul from google! ;) (they offer great service! but as they collect all the data, i should not continue using it..)

On Wednesday, March 9, 2011 11:56:28 AM UTC+1, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
Thunderbird Conversations is still under active development, and I'm about to release a 2.0a3 version that will be compatible with the upcoming Thunderbird 3.3a3. Thunderbird Conversations includes a "would like to leave some feedback" popup window that encourages you to share some thoughts about the addon. It currently redirects to UserVoice, but Mozilla Messaging experiments are moving away from this feedback channel, and encouraging the use of the mozilla-labs groups instead. This is the topic that welcomes user feedback regarding Thunderbird Conversations.

Development version: http://jonathan.xulforum.org/files/gcv-nightlies/ (warning, requires tomorrow's Thunderbird nightly, at the time of this writing)
Stable version: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/54035/ (install it through Thunderbird, from Tools > Add-ons)
GitHub: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View
FAQ, Questions: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki

jonathan
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread d7rk 9/13/13 10:04 AM
Conversation is great!

However there are two small things troubling me:
- I couldn't find how to sort by date of the latest email in the groups;
- a reply all in classic mode would be great for me (I use Thunderbird for work as well and I need to do some formatting to the emails);

Cheers and thanks again for Conversations!


On Wednesday, 9 March 2011 12:56:28 UTC+2, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
Thunderbird Conversations is still under active development, and I'm about to release a 2.0a3 version that will be compatible with the upcoming Thunderbird 3.3a3. Thunderbird Conversations includes a "would like to leave some feedback" popup window that encourages you to share some thoughts about the addon. It currently redirects to UserVoice, but Mozilla Messaging experiments are moving away from this feedback channel, and encouraging the use of the mozilla-labs groups instead. This is the topic that welcomes user feedback regarding Thunderbird Conversations.

Development version: http://jonathan.xulforum.org/files/gcv-nightlies/ (warning, requires tomorrow's Thunderbird nightly, at the time of this writing)
Stable version: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/54035/ (install it through Thunderbird, from Tools > Add-ons)
GitHub: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View
FAQ, Questions: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki

jonathan
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Ferry Rinaldi 6/20/14 6:59 AM
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On Wednesday, 9 March 2011 17:56:28 UTC+7, Jonathan Protzenko wrote:
Thunderbird Conversations is still under active development, and I'm about to release a 2.0a3 version that will be compatible with the upcoming Thunderbird 3.3a3. Thunderbird Conversations includes a "would like to leave some feedback" popup window that encourages you to share some thoughts about the addon. It currently redirects to UserVoice, but Mozilla Messaging experiments are moving away from this feedback channel, and encouraging the use of the mozilla-labs groups instead. This is the topic that welcomes user feedback regarding Thunderbird Conversations.

Development version: http://jonathan.xulforum.org/files/gcv-nightlies/ (warning, requires tomorrow's Thunderbird nightly, at the time of this writing)
Stable version: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/54035/ (install it through Thunderbird, from Tools > Add-ons)
GitHub: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View
FAQ, Questions: https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki

jonathan
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Ferry Rinaldi 6/20/14 7:01 AM
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Jon Baumgartner 11/20/14 5:25 AM
The github page seems to be gone now? I'm getting a 404 error.

Also, having this extension installed seems to break automatic mark-as-read functionality in Thunderbird. Is that a known issue?
Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread Mitra Ardron 11/21/14 8:02 AM
The extension seems to break lots of things, I keep installing because I'd really like the functionality,  it then removing it because it breaks stuff that its not fully integrated with.  It should really be a core part of TB, or JUST change the view to a conversation, but instead it tries to redo all the UI to a different set of ideas. (its not that some of the ideas aren't good, its just that because they aren't part of TB itself they break stuff)


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Re: Official Thunderbird Conversations feedback thread espux 1/7/15 6:19 AM
In version 2.8 and 2.8.1 the "Check spelling" and "Languages" options disappear from the right click menu when editing messages.

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