OT - war on junk food

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OT - war on junk food Brian Dickert 11/11/12 5:13 PM
today at church there were no cookies at the social hour.  in it's place was "healthy" snacks.

crackers, hummus, carrots, popcorn and the sugary juices were replaced with water.

I overheard one parent say it was their child's only cookie all week.

Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food Tuck 11/11/12 5:16 PM
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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food gordo 11/11/12 5:44 PM
And maybe some deep-fried butter.

Gordo
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food Tuck 11/11/12 5:46 PM
Please share the recipe.  How do you deep-fry butter?  In tallow?
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food gordo 11/11/12 5:52 PM
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food Tuck 11/11/12 6:00 PM
First link: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/paula-deen/paulas-fried-butter-balls-recipe/index.html

"1 cup all-purpose flour"

I asked how 'you' do it, not Paula the diabetic...
Re: OT - war on junk food Sean Gavor 11/11/12 7:10 PM
Grrrr
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food gordo 11/11/12 7:29 PM
I've never done it. It's just one of those strange things you hear about, like deep fried twinkies. If I was that desperate for calories, I'd just heat the butter up and drink it like tea.

Gordo
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food runs_with_kona 11/11/12 7:48 PM
I could go for one of these and just give me mascapone with hint of honey for desert, at least a pint.

Re: [Minimalist Runner:126363] OT - war on junk food Denise Skidmore 11/12/12 5:07 AM

Soften butter, mix with coconut flakes, make balls, freeze. Only need one per serving.

Re: [Minimalist Runner:126363] OT - war on junk food Jay Fox 11/12/12 9:54 AM
Out of curiosity, what's the ratio of butter and coconut, so that it doesn't disintegrate when you fry it? Also, since you're making only one, do you deep fry it, or just fry it in a shallow pool of oil? Seems like a lot of oil to deep fry just one.
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126363] OT - war on junk food Jay Fox 11/12/12 9:55 AM
I guess I should have considered the possibility that it self-fries in the butter as it melts, with no oil/butter required?
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126363] OT - war on junk food gordo 11/12/12 10:20 AM
I guess I should have considered the possibility that you guys would miss my sarcasm completely ... Silly internet.

Gordo
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126363] OT - war on junk food Jay Fox 11/12/12 11:07 AM
LOL, I caught the sarcasm, but as long as we were on the subject, I was a little curious...


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I guess I should have considered the possibility that you guys would miss my sarcasm completely ... Silly internet.

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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126363] OT - war on junk food Denise Skidmore 11/12/12 11:10 AM
Oh.  I don't fry mine.  Just eat them as is.  And I never measure...  :)  Maybe 1/3 to 1/2 coconut by volume?  If you add too much the coconut will start falling back out as you try to mix it in.  Just add a little at a time.
Re: OT - war on junk food Sea Questrian 11/13/12 6:25 AM
I believe the most popular food in Scotland is still the deep-fried Mars Bar.  Sad, but true.
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126444] Re: OT - war on junk food John Kemp 11/13/12 6:30 AM
On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Sea Questrian wrote:

> I believe the most popular food in Scotland is still the deep-fried Mars Bar.

That, and haggis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haggis

>  Sad, but true.

I know it's clearly not good for you, but it is delicious ;)

JohnK

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> On Sunday, November 11, 2012 7:13:47 PM UTC-6, Brian Dickert wrote:
> today at church there were no cookies at the social hour.  in it's place was "healthy" snacks.
> crackers, hummus, carrots, popcorn and the sugary juices were replaced with water.
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> I overheard one parent say it was their child's only cookie all week.
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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126444] Re: OT - war on junk food Ben Pangie 11/13/12 6:34 AM
Haggis or the mars bar?
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126444] Re: OT - war on junk food gordo 11/13/12 6:43 AM
Maybe modern haggis is a sheep stomach stuffed with Mars Bars and deep-fried. ;)

Gordo
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126445] Re: OT - war on junk food John Kemp 11/13/12 6:44 AM
On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Ben Pangie wrote:

> Haggis or the mars bar?

I'd argue that haggis is pretty good for you - you might quibble about the oatmeal, but it's otherwise all good stuff.

Mars bars - well, American or British? If British, I found the following: http://www.snackcheck.co.uk/products/chocolate/mars-bar - not truly terrible, but still - industrialized food product (not food).

http://totl.net/VisibleMars/ is a wonderful place to see Mars bars in their natural habitat, FWIW :)

JohnK
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126447] Re: OT - war on junk food Tuck 11/13/12 6:53 AM
"I'd argue that haggis is pretty good for you - you might quibble about the oatmeal, but it's otherwise all good stuff."
 
Indeed.  Revolting, but there you have it.
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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126447] Re: OT - war on junk food gordo 11/13/12 6:57 AM
Someone once told me that Scottish cuisine appears to have been based on a series of drunken dares.

Gordo
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126445] Re: OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 11/13/12 9:10 AM
You've clearly never had haggis....
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126451] Re: OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 11/13/12 9:12 AM
My take on Scottish cuisine [sic] is that it appears to be about hiding the fact that everything you eat tastes like dirt. Except for the soups, they taste like mud. ;)
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126472] Re: OT - war on junk food John Kemp 11/13/12 9:17 AM
Doug, you've clearly never had *good* haggis... and no, that's not a contradiction ;)
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126473] Re: OT - war on junk food Hermine Stover 11/13/12 9:18 AM
Not only have I had haggis, I have made haggis. were it not for all the carbs, which my body does not burn for fuel but stashes directly on my ass, I would make haggis on a regular basis. I shall now listen to bagpipe music and do a small home made version of the sword dance which is an excellent warmup exercise and gets the toes really INTO IT.

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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Doug Sims <wdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
My take on Scottish cuisine [sic] is that it appears to be about hiding the fact that everything you eat tastes like dirt. Except for the soups, they taste like mud. ;)


Re: [Minimalist Runner:126475] Re: OT - war on junk food Tuck 11/13/12 9:48 AM
I tried haggis when I was in Scotland in high school.  I was told it was a good place to eat haggis, who knows.  I'd give it a try again... as I've even developed a taste for Brussels sprouts in my dotage. 
 
Come to think of it, they served the haggis with a side of Brussells sprouts, and I hadn't gotten in the habit of drinking at that point.  I'm talking myself into giving it another shot... ;)


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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126475] Re: OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 11/13/12 10:15 AM
I've never been to Scotland (intend to though), so I'm sure I've never had really good Scottish food. A city I used to work in had "The Highland Deli" and it was touted as an authentic scottish restaurant. I couldn't understand anything the owner said, so I took it to be pretty accurate. ;)

I am willing to change my opinion if I ever get the chance to sample authentic (or verified *good*) food of the Scots.



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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126481] Re: OT - war on junk food Joe Wrigley 11/13/12 2:04 PM


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Doug Sims <wdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I've never been to Scotland (intend to though), so I'm sure I've never had really good Scottish food. A city I used to work in had "The Highland Deli" and it was touted as an authentic scottish restaurant. I couldn't understand anything the owner said, so I took it to be pretty accurate. ;)

I am willing to change my opinion if I ever get the chance to sample authentic (or verified *good*) food of the Scots.

I was pretty cagey about haggis, but found it to be pretty nice. I just bought one yesterday, in fact, to cook for myself for the first time. Mind you, I also had ox tongue, fried eggs, pickled beetroot (beets) and dill pickles for breakfast. My old self wouldn't recognise my tastes now.
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126506] Re: OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 11/14/12 6:43 AM
"... for breakfast."

Good grief, you eat more for breakfast than I eat all day.


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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126548] Re: OT - war on junk food Joe Wrigley 11/14/12 7:43 AM


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Doug Sims <wdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
"... for breakfast."

Good grief, you eat more for breakfast than I eat all day.

It wasn't a huge portion - http://twitter.yfrog.com/hs9b0craj
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126567] Re: OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 11/14/12 8:15 AM
Umm. Does that picture work for anyone? I just get a webpage with 1500 ads and no actual picture.

You should use Instagram for food pictures, it's what all the cool kids use to take pictures of their food. ;)


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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126574] Re: OT - war on junk food Joe Wrigley 11/14/12 12:42 PM


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Doug Sims <wdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Umm. Does that picture work for anyone? I just get a webpage with 1500 ads and no actual picture.

You should use Instagram for food pictures, it's what all the cool kids use to take pictures of their food. ;)

Oddly, it wasn't working, now it is.

Instagram's a bit....square ;-)
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126567] Re: OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 11/15/12 7:29 AM
Yeah, I was expecting pickle slices. You ate 2 whole pickles...


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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126613] Re: OT - war on junk food Joe Wrigley 11/15/12 1:45 PM


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Doug Sims <wdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I was expecting pickle slices. You ate 2 whole pickles...

The pickles are what you object to?! OK, then. :-)

Lots of carbs in pickles ;-)
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126638] Re: OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 11/16/12 5:24 AM
I don't object to any of it. I was just saying it was a big breakfast...


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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126657] Re: OT - war on junk food Joe Wrigley 11/16/12 6:32 AM


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Doug Sims <wdsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't object to any of it. I was just saying it was a big breakfast...

Wouldn't make any difference if you did :-)

Sometimes I have a big breakfast, sometimes I fast. Maybe I should start an OT thread "How Big Is Your Breakfast?".
Re: [Minimalist Runner:126663] Re: OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 11/16/12 6:43 AM
That actually wouldn't be a bad idea. It seems we have a couple of active threads right now about running fasted, or running with low carb. I would be a good idea to see what people eat for breakfast on days when they do or don't run. (if that is even different).


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Re: Breakfast (was Re: [Minimalist Runner:126666] Re: OT - war on junk food) John Kemp 11/16/12 7:04 AM
I eat 3 eggs + cheese almost every day for breakfast. That goes along with a large cup of espresso + 1/2 cup of heavy cream. I usually eat a few spoons of yoghurt and (homemade) sauerkraut too.

If I run first thing, I don't have breakfast until afterwards, but this was also my breakfast prior to the Hartford marathon I did last month.

JohnK
Re: Breakfast (was Re: [Minimalist Runner:126673] Re: OT - war on junk food) Ben Pangie 11/16/12 7:45 AM
Typically I'll do 2 eggs with cheese and some sort of green - kale or spinach - some liver and about 30 ozs of coffee with 1/3 cup of cream. I'm usually up at 5:30 and eat around 10:30/11:00 so not sure if you'd consider it breakfast, though it is breaking the fast so...

Ben
Re: Breakfast (was Re: [Minimalist Runner:126673] Re: OT - war on junk food) Denise Skidmore 11/16/12 11:40 AM
Similar here, but I don't do coffee, so sometimes I have fatty breakfast meats and or some veggies in my 3 eggs & cheese in place of your cream.


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Re: Breakfast (was Re: [Minimalist Runner:126673] Re: OT - war on junk food) Nick J 11/16/12 1:06 PM
Typically we have a family size scrambled egg, which is usually between 4-5 eggs with lardons and sometimes a bit of leafy stuff.  Then for our breakfast dessert (yes) we have a monster fruit salad which usually has walnuts and almonds and sometimes a little chopped chocolate.

This is generally eaten with creme fraiche or fromage blanc.

Seems to set the kids up for the day, my boy in particular runs well on this.  
Re: Breakfast (was Re: [Minimalist Runner:126673] Re: OT - war on junk food) Sean Gavor 11/16/12 2:28 PM
I was gonna make my famous haggis-stuffed-deep-fried-twinkie for Thanksgiving again this year but the Hostess company went out of business.
 
I can't catch a break.
Re: Breakfast (was Re: [Minimalist Runner:126728] Re: OT - war on junk food) Doug Sims 11/19/12 8:17 AM
I saw yesterday that Wal-mart makes an off-brand twinkie. Good luck. ;)


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I was gonna make my famous haggis-stuffed-deep-fried-twinkie for Thanksgiving again this year but the Hostess company went out of business.
 
I can't catch a break.

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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food Brian Dickert 12/10/12 6:40 AM
1 month update:
Yesterday I saw a little boy (about 4) get a small cup of raisins, then he went over to the Sugar next to the coffee station and poured a tablespoon of sugar on the raisins.

Looks like the kids have found a way to have their sugar fix.



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On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Brian Dickert <brian.di...@gmail.com> wrote:
today at church there were no cookies at the social hour.  in it's place was "healthy" snacks.

crackers, hummus, carrots, popcorn and the sugary juices were replaced with water.

I overheard one parent say it was their child's only cookie all week.


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Re: [Minimalist Runner:126355] OT - war on junk food gordo 12/10/12 6:51 AM
Raisins are almost all sugar.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/2050/2

The kid was putting sugar on his sugar.

Gordo
Re: [Minimalist Runner:127743] OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 12/10/12 6:53 AM
Dude. I heard you like sugar, so I put some sugar on your sugar...

In his defense, raisins are much better with sugar on them. :) Although, I prefer the chocolate flavored sugar on my raisins. I like to call them Raisinettes. ;)
Re: [Minimalist Runner:127743] OT - war on junk food Jacques Blaauw 12/10/12 10:15 PM
In my high carb days I used to put sugar on my rice.  If the rice is still warm, the sugar sort of melts and makes it all sticky.
It helps with the dryness and lack of taste of the rice by itself.

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Re: [Minimalist Runner:127760] OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 12/11/12 6:08 AM
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Jacques Blaauw <blaa...@gmail.com> wrote:
lack of taste of the rice

You must be eating some crappy quality rice. I usually enjoy rice by itself (not that I choose to eat it like that often). 
Re: [Minimalist Runner:127765] OT - war on junk food Jacques Blaauw 12/11/12 6:11 AM
Probably.
The last time I ate rice (other than sushi) was when I was a student.  So yeah, low budget stuff.

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Re: [Minimalist Runner:127767] OT - war on junk food Doug Sims 12/11/12 6:18 AM
I also meant to add, that if it is dry, you didn't cook it right. It should be moist and soft.

Although, honestly, rice is one of those things that's hard to mess up. (Yet, I've seen many places do it.)
Re: [Minimalist Runner:127760] OT - war on junk food Denise Skidmore 12/11/12 8:32 AM
Oh...  mmm...  I have a recipe for sweet rice, it uses the really short, almost round rice, with raisins and honey...  but that's a dessert, not a meal.


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