Re: Grey School of Wizardry?

Showing 1-4 of 4 messages
Re: Grey School of Wizardry? nagasiva 1/12/08 2:49 PM
Aftermath Fan <survi...@gmail.com>:
>Kisai <Aristos.Ki...@gmail.com>:
>
>> [the Grey School's coursework]'s filled with many,
>> many silly things.
>>
>> You could learn some stuff from their coursework,
>> but you're also going to have to unlearn much,
>> much, much more stuff.
>
> Could you elaborate a little on this answer?  Thanks.

I can guess. as with many expositors of theurgy, there
is often a (set of) cosmology inherent to instruction.
each instructor comes with their own raft of beliefs,
biases, and potentially ensnarling limits and tropes.

it all depends on what level of broad-mindedness one
may seek to develop. studying under a mage may be
enough to expand one's horizons, but eventually some
kind of reflection of what is beyond them is needed.

lorax666
        luckymojo.com@nagasiva

        alt.magick.moderated is a MODERATED newsgroup.
        Consult http://www.alt-magick-moderated.org/ where you
        may locate the newest Posting Guidelines and Charter
        for the newsgroup before your first post. Contact the
        Moderation Team at moder...@alt-magick-moderated.org

Re: Grey School of Wizardry? lorax666 1/14/08 4:19 PM
Never be tortured!

Aftermath Fan <survi...@gmail.com>:
>I'm curious what people think about the Grey School of Wizardry
>(greyschool.com).  It was apparently founded by Oberon Zell-
>Ravenheart.  

that sounds right, yes.

>OZR was on the cover of Pan Gaia's most recent ish...I
>don't really know anything more about him.  

it's a stormy but intriguing road to follow in Z-R's wake.
his involvements with the Council of Themis, CAW, and
editing of Green Egg, and involvement with such efforts
as Forever Forests and Annwyfn (sp?) are fairly well-known.
the fact that he is a wonderful sculptor and storyteller
typically require an encounter with the man to ascertain.

>I have thumbed through his big grimoire ("Grimoire for
>the Apprentice Wizard") in the bookstore a few times,
>which I understand is the basic course material for the
>school.

my understanding is that there are (or were) 2 such books
which formed the basis, 2 volumes, effectively. one is
"Grimoire for the Apprentice Wizard" and the other is
"Companion for the Apprentice Wizard". the second is
described at google books as consisting

        "...not so much of informational lessons
         and teachings, as with the Grimoire, but
        rather focuses on practical exercises
        derived from them to develop psychic skills,
        plus instructions and templates for many
        projects to make and do."
        from
        http://books.google.com/books?id=bLq38xz-U8sC&dq=ravenheart+grimoire+for+the
        accessed 1/12/08

these books are part of my occult library, and i've
scanned them briefly, finding them inspiring and amusing.
having met and spent a little time with their author,
i think that his heart is in the right place, and that
many will find in the books something to assist them
with their magic studies.

>It looks somewhat Harry Potterish....

its (the Grey School's) relation to "Defense of the
Dark Arts" definitely gives this impression, yes.

>The "faculty" seem a reasonable bunch.

list them and comment upon them in this thread.

>It looks like it started out as geared for kids

that was their first platform, yes.

>but has added adult curricula.

last i heard this was in the works, yes.

>I'm asking as an adult.  I'm interested in the
>Grey School as an opportunity to acquire a good
>thick basic level of knowledge.  

it has thickness in particular dimensions only,
but they are apparently trying to expand that,
and i hope they succeed in broadening so as to
include a greater diversity and insight.

>My background is in wicca and (somewhat
>discongrously, perhaps) chaos magick.

the Wicca of a stripe will fit with the Neo-pagan
character of R-Z's general background. the Grey
School's expansion of curriculum so as to
incorporate additional occult dimension shows
promise that they may well have something to offer
someone who has an interest in Chaos Magick.

that said, there are turbulent waters and storms
in the social wake of Z-R's previous involvements,
and so far i have heard little to indicate that
this has reproduced or followed him into the school.

I wish Oberon and the school the best, hope to see
the improvement in accuracy in their reflection
of religions, and will watch for reviews from
students and graduates in the years to come.

nagasiva


        luckymojo.com@nagasiva

        alt.magick.moderated is a MODERATED newsgroup.
        Consult http://www.alt-magick-moderated.org/ where you
        may locate the newest Posting Guidelines and Charter
        for the newsgroup before your first post. Contact the
        Moderation Team at moder...@alt-magick-moderated.org

Grey School Faculty List lorax666 1/14/08 4:18 PM
Happy Spring!

Aftermath Fan <survi...@gmail.com>:
>Forgot to add...here is their typical course catalog:
>http://www.dragontreemagick.com/CourseCatalogByYear.pdf

thanks. below is a faculty listing, MINUS duplications.

there are more departments than this, but some of them
had no unique or first-unique faculty so i skipped 'em.
you can get the full curriculum in the PDF. a name
listed below may reappear countless times in other depts
and levels. many of the teachers instruct across a
multiple of subjects and levels, though Susan "Moonwriter"
Pesznecker seems to be the most common name encountered.
credentials encountered once were appended on this list.

first appearance during my scroll through the PDF is
what is reflected below. only 1 of these names sounded
familiar to me (Trina Robbins, a longtime friend of
my Beloved and well-known from comics). she teaches
a course on Goddesses and Heroins and one on making
ritual garb.

        ----------------------
        Dept of Wizardry
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Hillary "Grey Panther" Fischer
        Elizabeth Barrette
        Uta M. "Rainmaker" Stelson
        Susan "Moonwriter" Pesznecker, RN, BA
        Katrina "Tigersmoondiva" Flanary
        David "Duir" Smith
        Solaris Kirby

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Nature Studies
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Anna "Rilana" Fox
        
        ----------------------
        Dept. of Magickal Practices [sic]
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Apollonius

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Mind Magicks
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Crow Dragontree
        Rainbow Stonetalker
        Estara T'shirai, BA

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Wortcunning
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Ellen Evert Hopman
 
        ----------------------
        Dept. of Divination
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Robert Lee "Skip" Ellison
        Ash "Cala'Sanjaru" DeKirk

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Performance Magicks
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Jim Fish

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Alchemy and Magickal Sciences [sic]
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        David Smith        

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Lifeways
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Lilana d'Venus
        Brighid Delphinos

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Lore
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 1
        Trina Robbins
        
        ----------------------
        Dept of Wizardry
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 2
        Quaesitor Theurgos
        Jeremy Brown
 
        ----------------------
        Dept. of Mind Magicks
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 2
        Donata Ahern, M.S.W.

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Performance Magicks
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 2
        Jillbe Badb

        ----------------------
        Dept. of Beast Mastery
        ----------------------
        LEVEL 4
        Raven Stone

lorax666


        luckymojo.com@nagasiva

        alt.magick.moderated is a MODERATED newsgroup.
        Consult http://www.alt-magick-moderated.org/ where you
        may locate the newest Posting Guidelines and Charter
        for the newsgroup before your first post. Contact the
        Moderation Team at moder...@alt-magick-moderated.org

Re: Grey School of Wizardry? m...@privacy.net 1/16/08 12:04 PM
heard him awhile, she went
away to her father, who was in the shop, and entreated him to give that
man a cow: and told him, that the poor man had no cow! that the hunters,
or something else, had killed his cow! and entreated him to give him one
of theirs. Her father told her that they could not spare one. Then she
entreated him to let him and his family come and live at his house: and
had much more talk of the same nature, whereby she manifested bowels of
compassion to the poor.

She has manifested great love to her minister: particularly when I
returned from my long journey for my health, the last fall. When she
heard of it, she appeared very joyful at the news, and told the children
of it, with an elevated voice, as the most joyful tidings; repeating it
over and over. Mr. Edwards is come home! Mr. Edwards is come home! She
still continues very constant in secret prayer, so far as can be
observed, for she seems to have no desire that others should observe her
when she retires, being a child of a reserved temper. Every n

        alt.magick.moderated is a MODERATED newsgroup.
        Consult http://www.alt-magick-moderated.org/ where you
        may locate the newest Posting Guidelines and Charter
        for the newsgroup before your first post. Contact the
        Moderation Team at moder...@alt-magick-moderated.org