Re: Summit Part 1: Governance

All,

I think this is a great start. Would agree with 3 months seeming short, but since this is all new I am sure it stabilize at a bigger period.

Unfortunately I couldn't follow the live event because Vidyo just doesn't play well with my Windows 7 setup here but if you guys need another person to speak on behalf of the Addons developers (ok you got at least 2 very strong people on the team already) I am available! I am still 100% committed to making Thunderbird the best mail client out there (especially since I am having to suffer to daily outlook crashes at my bread job). I must say that the factors stability and persistance are actually becoming bigger "selling points" the longer I am forced to work in a corporate environment. Microsoft probably doesn't have enough good developers to maintain a proper product for the desktop (*), so as long as there is a desktop I see a future for Thunderbird.

Also, I would like to see a "monetization" team that help both funding Thunderbird and helping productivity Addon developers to self fund (not necessarily with money, but a proper market-place experience or subscription channels would be great) to make this a better product. We have seen some feedback on people being opposed to monetization in form of landing pages / asking for donations. IMO these users should have an option for a yearly "silent" subscription, e.g. 10$/year. i think a free (as in beer) product should have some way of asking for direct means to fund itself (NO THIRD PARTY ADVERTISEMENTS!!!). It has to be clear that Thunderbird is independent and as such must fund itself independently.

(*) all their recent efforts point towards thin client / moving programming logic to the cloud

regards
Axel

Axel
Software Developer
Thunderbird Add-ons Developer (QuickFolders, quickFilters, QuickPasswords, Zombie Keys, SmartTemplate4)
AMO Editor

To: Gervase Markham - gerv@mozilla.org
From: Patrick Cloke <cl...@gmail.com>
CC: tb-pl...@mozilla.org <tb-pl...@mozilla.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 21/10/2014 13:28:59 13:28 GMT ST +0100 [Week 43]
Subject: Re: Summit Part 1: Governance

Gerv,

Kent did not include it in this email, but the gist of the plan (to my understanding) was to have this initial set of people serve 1 year terms and then to define longer terms and guidelines in some sort of charter. I think we discussed 2 year terms at the Summit with ~half the Council up for election each year, but 3 year terms is reasonable as well!

Thanks for your input,
Patrick

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Gervase Markham <ge...@mozilla.org> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm very excited to hear about these changes, which I'm sure will be
good for the project.

On 21/10/14 03:57, Kent James wrote:
> The Thunderbird Core Team nominated and elected 7 individuals to the
> Thunderbird Council, with an initial term of 1 year. The Thunderbird
> Council consists of:
>
> Mike Conley
> Joshua Cranmer
> Kent James
> Philipp Kewisch
> Magnus Melin
> Wayne Mery
> Florian Quèze
>
> The Thunderbird Council got together, and agreed that Kent James would
> server as initial Chairperson, with an initial term of 3 months.

These terms and timelines seem rather short to me. While democratic
accountability is important, continuity and the ability to get stuff
done without having to administer elections all the time is also important.

I would encourage the Council and the core team to consider perhaps a
3-year term for Council membership with 2, 2 and 3 positions coming up
for re-election in each of the 3 years (with the initial terms of the
initial members chosen randomly). This sort of scheme seems to have
worked well elsewhere, with a good mix of change and continuity.

Whatever you decide, I look forward to the bright future :-)

Gerv

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