On 04/12/2017 10:26 PM, daltong defourne wrote:
 > On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 10:08:20 PM UTC+3, Hack wrote:
 >> On 04/12/2017 08:35 PM, daltong defourne wrote:
 >>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 8:48:30 PM UTC+3, cooloutac wrote:
 >>>> On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 1:16:36 PM UTC-4, daltong defourne
wrote:
 >>>>> I know this (and similar matters) has been discussed in different
places, on and off
 >>>>>
 >>>>> For example here:
 >>>>>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/jtjyq8N6bY0/discussion
 >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/gCklOzk9xYg
 >>>>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2627
 >>>>>
 >>>>> However, now I am solidly confused and don't know what to do and how.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> What I want
 >>>>>
 >>>>> have firefox running in RedAppVM-One start on xfce desktop 1
 >>>>>
 >>>>> have firefox running in RedAppVM-Two start on xfce desktop 6
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Ideally, I'd also like to make ~all~ software from RedAppVM-One
to start on desktop 1 , but even "solving for firefox" would be an okay
start for me.
 >>>>
 >>>> I think you can do this on KDE,  for xfce you probably have to
install a 3rd party tool to dom0.
 >>>
 >>> Devilspie2 does not seem to play nice with qubes (ref:
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2627 ) but if there is a
"low bloodshed" way to make it work with qubes it would be nice.
 >>>
 >>> And yes, I'm on xfce...
 >>>
 >>
 >> Where do you read that Devilspie2 does not play nice with Qubes? I am
 >> using both of them, and it works nicely, since months! (And I was the
 >> one who started this tread…)
 > Hi Hack!
 >
Hi!

 > I have linked to the qubes-issues thread where it seemingly came up.
 > The full problem quote is:
 >
 > "I tried to install devilspie2 for testing purposes on Qubes.
Currently, it's not work on Qubes.
 > Devilspie2 function get_window_name() return Windows names without
AppVM labels. Therefore, it's not possible to sort windows on desktops
by AppVM name."
 >
 > I reckon it is not actually correct and the lua scripts you provided
work in Qubes 3.2 "as is"?
 >

Yes, because those who failed to make it works used get_window_name()
instead of get_class_instance_name()!!!

 > If so, if I may ask a few questions:
 > 1) do the lua provided "stick" the window to a given desktop (as in,
I won't be able to send a window to a different virtual desktop even if
I try) ?

Well, every time you launch a program, it will be automatically send to
the chosen virtual desktop. But you can then send this program where you
want.

With the script I provided, every program from "RedAppVM-One" will be
send to workspace 1. But after that, if you want to send this program to
workspace 6, you can.

You can customize it easily:
Change only these values:
     dom = 'RedAppVM-One';
     workspace = 1


 > 2) if no, does devilspie2 provide a way to do that ?

See above.

 > 3) if yes, is there a way to avoid sticking (as in, always start in
desktop 1, but can be sent to any other desktop) ?

See 1)

But I repeat, once you have launched a program, you can then move it
where you want.

 > 4) could you please write up a quick primer on using devilspie2 with
qubes (any caveats, etc?)
 >

It works like a charm!

Devilspie2 is even quite flexible, but be careful, because if you write
something like "RedAppVM" in dom variable, and 1 for workspace, without
adding "-One", and so one to the name "RedAppVM", every new windows
starting with 'RedAppVM*' will be send to the same workspace, here 1.


 > Thank you very much
 >

You are welcome.