Convert to DNxHD with WinFF?

[The Tourist]

Hi,

Does WinFF convert videos to DNxHD?

I do not see any mention of DNxHD in the possible list of WinFF presets.

I'm running "Linux Mint 17.3 mate 64bit" (based on Trusty Tahr) and WinnFF 1.5.3 was installed with Synaptic from the repositories.

[Ian Stoffberg]

Hi,

It probably doesn't by default.

But this is why WinFF exists.  To allow you to make your own presets.

I'm no video expert and have no idea what that format is, but do what I did and WinFF will work for you.

I googled for ffmpeg and dnxhd and got this.

ffmpeg -i <video-clip> -vcodec dnxhd <video-clip-in-dnxhd>

Great, now fire up winff and modify one of the existing presets and create a new one that does that.

Save as a new preset and boom, you're got a new preset for winff customised for you.

We have pretty much stopped active development on WiNFF precisely because it is so easy to make presets and support new formats.

Good luck.

Ian

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[Pierre autourduglobe]

Thank you for your reply,

Unfortunately my understanding of the lines of code is insufficient. I can not recognize how to modify or create the preset code; the format and content of the displayed code is very different from this line: ffmpeg -i <video-clip> -vcodec dnxhd <video-clip-in-dnxhd> that you suggest.

I believe that WinnFF under "Linux Mint 17.3 mate 64bit" uses "avconv" rather than FFmpeg, maybe this is the source of the difficulties.

I still tried to change one of the preselection lines, but the comversion failed.

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[Ian Stoffberg]

Well, I'm glad you tried ;)

If you look at the presets configuration screen inside winff you will see all the presets laid out.

they get saved to a file called presets.xml

By default it's store in a folder called .winff in your homedirectory ( as I recall).

This is a text file.   The first preset looks like this  (cut from that file)

	<BlackberryCurvefs>
	<label>Blackberry Curve Fullscreen</label>
	<params>-f mp4 -vcodec mpeg4 -b:v 400k -r 24 -vf scale=320:240 -aspect 4:3 -acodec aac -ar 22050 -ac 2 -b:a 48k</params>
	<extension>mp4</extension>
	<category>Blackberry</category>
	</BlackberryCurvefs> Basically allyou need to do is insert that command line without the output and input filenames in the params section.  change the extension and names and there you go. I'm sorry I can't do it for you.  I don't have winff installed on my phone ;) Its actually easier to edit this inside winff in the top menus. Good luck and backup that presets file before you try!

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[Pierre autourduglobe]

Ok, I did what you suggested to me:
I modified presets.xml in this way:

I replaced:

qmov>
    <label> Quicktime MOV </ label>
    <params> -f mov -acodec libvo_aacenc -b: v 1250k -r 25 -b: a 128k -vf scale = 640: 480 -ac 2 -ar 48000 </ params>
    <Extension> mov </ extension>
    <Category> QuickTime </ category>
  </ Qmov>

By

qmov>
    <label> Quicktime MOV </ label>
    <params> -vcodec dnxhd </ params>
    <Extension> mov </ extension>
    <Category> QuickTime </ category>
  </ Qmov>

And I got the following failure:

avconv version 9.20-6: 9.20-0ubuntu0.14.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2014 the Libav developers
  built on Dec 7 2016 21:22:31 with gcc 4.8 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1 ~ 14.04.3)
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] DTS in stream 2: packet 2 with DTS 87080, packet 3 with DTS 87080
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 5 with DTS 132125, packet 6 with DTS 132125
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 6 with DTS 132125, packet 7 with DTS 132125
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 7 with DTS 132125, packet 8 with DTS 132125
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 10 with DTS 177170, packet 11 with DTS 177170
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] DTS in stream 2: packet 11 with DTS 177170, packet 12 with DTS 177170
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 12 with DTS 177170, packet 13 with DTS 177170
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 15 with DTS 222215, packet 16 with DTS 222215
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 16 with DTS 222215, packet 17 with DTS 222215
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 17 with DTS 222215, packet 18 with DTS 222215
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 20 with DTS 267260, packet 21 with DTS 267260
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 21 with DTS 267260, packet 22 with DTS 267260
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 22 with DTS 267260, packet 23 with DTS 267260
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 25 with DTS 312305, packet 26 with DTS 312305
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] DTS in stream 2: packet 26 with DTS 312305, packet 27 with DTS 312305
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 27 with DTS 312305, packet 28 with DTS 312305
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 30 with DTS 357350, packet 31 with DTS 357350
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] DTS in stream 2: packet 31 with DTS 357350, packet 32 ​​with DTS 357350
[mpegts @ 0x16c90e0] Non-increasing DTS in stream 2: packet 32 ​​with DTS 357350, packet 33 with DTS 357350
Input # 0, mpegts, from '/media/raid1/Pierre/MEDIAS_POUR_MONTAGE/TOURNAGES_forMARIO_BOIVIN/Company_Plastics_ANCHOR/TOURNAGES/DÉMO_(B50-2_Contenant_60_litres_Bleu_Anchor)_2017-09/Video/20100102001824.m2ts':
  Duration: 00: 00: 06.52, start: 1.000000, bitrate: 12405 kb / s
  Program 1
    Stream # 0.0 [0x1011]: Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1440x1080 [PAR 4: 3 DAR 16: 9], 59.94 fps, 59.94 tbr, 90k tbn, 59.94 tbc
    Stream # 0.1 [0x1100]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, fltp, 448 kb / s
    Stream # 0.2 [0x1200]: Subtitle: pgssub
[dnxhd @ 0x16eb080] video parameters incompatible with DNxHD
Output # 0, mov, to '/media/saveup/Pierre/For_Home_Personal_fold/Reception_WinFF/20100102001824.mov':
    Stream # 0.0: Video: dnxhd, yuv422p, 1440x1080 [PAR 4: 3 DAR 16: 9], q = 2-31, 200 kb / s, 90k tbn, 59.94 tbc
    Stream # 0.1: Audio: libvo_aacenc, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 200 kb / s
Stream mapping:
  Stream # 0: 0 -> # 0: 0 (h264 -> dnxhd)
  Stream # 0: 1 -> # 0: 1 (ac3 -> libvo_aacenc)
Error while opening encoder for output stream # 0: 0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height

It is likely that it lacks information in the line about bit_rate, rate, width or height.

This command line is probably not complete.

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[Ian Stoffberg]

I think the preset was created correctly, so that's good.  now just tweak the parameters
found a more complex example here

https://video.stackexchange.com/questions/20571/ffmpeg-convert-mp4-to-mov-with-dnxhd-codec

ffmpeg -i test.mov -vf format=yuv422p,scale=-1:1080,pad=1920:1080:(ow-iw)/2:0 -r 24000/1001 -c:v dnxhd -b:v 115M out.mov

In winff becomes (I hope)

-vf format=yuv422p,scale=-1:1080,pad=1920:1080:(ow-iw)/2:0 -r 24000/1001 -c:v dnxhd -b:v 115M


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[Pierre autourduglobe]

Sorry to have taken some time to answer you; I had to leave.
Your line of code leaves me puzzled. It seems suitable for ffmpeg, but my WinFF works rather with avconv under Linux Mint 17.3.

A search by Google finds a lot of information about DNxHD with ffmpeg, but almost nothing with avconv, is to wonder if avconv really supports DNxHD as truly as ffmpeg.

Your "-r 24000/1001 -c: v dnxhd -b: v 115M" is not suitable for my framerate: 30000/1001.

I do not understand the meaning of all the elements of the line:
-vf format = yuv422p, scale = -1: 1080, pad = 1920: 1080: (ow-iw) / 2: 0 -r 24000/1001 -c: v dnxhd -b: v 115M
but I get the impression that "-r 30000/1001 -c: v dnxhd -b: v 145M"
or "-r 30000/1001 -c: v dnxhd -b: v 220M" would be more suitable for my files to convert.

But I still do not know how to adapt it for avconv.

[Pierre autourduglobe]

Well after a lot of testing I ended up finding configurations that work.

However, defects in the images always appear and even when retrieving the line of code used in "EKD" (-s 1920x1080 -r 29.97 -b 220000k -vcodec dnxhd -ac 2 -acodec pcm_s16le -threads 8 -y) have the same image defect.

Under EKD-svn (which uses ffmpeg static instead) the image is perfect, but unfortunately EKD does not maintain the original titles of the files ...

That's why I wanted to use WinFF; it maintains the original file titles.

It will therefore be necessary that I resign myself to correct all the titles of the very many files that I have to convert by lot under ... EKD.

Thank you, nevertheless, for your very valuable help.

[Ian Stoffberg]

I hope that winff will be more useful in future now that you can create custom presets.

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[Ian Stoffberg]

Why not make your own script to do the conversion using ffmpeg static or use ffmpeg instead of avconv in the winff settings.

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[Pierre autourduglobe]

How can I do this?

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[Ian Stoffberg]

In the "edit" preferences dialog.

also, while winff is doing a conversion, there will be a .sh file created in your .winff folder.

if you copy and modify that file to your other copy of ffmpeg, maybe that will help?

[Pierre autourduglobe]

Here it is now a little too late, I will try it tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion.

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[Paul Gevers]

Hi Pierre,

If Mint is really a derivative of Ubuntu, I believe you can install
ffmpeg (or rather ffmpeg-extra) and tell Winff to use ffmpeg rather than
avconv via the preferences.

Paul

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> suggestion.
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>> In the "edit" preferences dialog.
>>
>> also, while winff is doing a conversion, there will be a .sh file
>> created in your .winff folder.
>>
>> if you copy and modify that file to your other copy of ffmpeg, maybe
>> that will help?
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>> On 11 September 2017 at 06:09, Pierre autourduglobe

>> <p.autou...@gmail.com <mailto:p.autou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> How can I do this?
>>
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>> Le 2017-09-10 à 23:10, Ian Stoffberg a écrit :
>>> Why not make your own script to do the conversion using ffmpeg
>>> static or use ffmpeg instead of avconv in the winff settings.
>>>
>>> On 11 Sep 2017 02:53, "Pierre autourduglobe"

>>>>> <mailto:p.autou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Does WinFF convert videos to DNxHD?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I do not see any mention of DNxHD in the possible list
>>>>> of WinFF presets.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I'm running "Linux Mint 17.3 mate 64bit" (based on
>>>>> Trusty Tahr) and WinnFF 1.5.3 was installed with Synaptic
>>>>> from the repositories.
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[Pierre autourduglobe]

Hi Paul,

Yes

ffmpeg is already installed (by other software)
libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56 is also installed (I do not know if it's useful here)
ffmpeg-extra does not appear in the Synaptic list

In WinFF's current settings:

Path for executable FFmpeg or avconv:
/usr/bin/avconv

Terminal in which to run FFmpeg:
/usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator

Path to the executable FFplay or avplay:
/usr/bin/avplay

Terminal Option:
-e

Pierre

[Paul Gevers]

Right,

So just replace /usr/bin/avconv with /usr/bin/ffmpeg (and maybe
/usr/bin/avplay with /usr/bin/ffplay)

Paul

[Pierre autourduglobe]

Thank you very much, I'm at work right now but I'll look at it later tonight. I will inform you of the results.

Pierre

[Pierre autourduglobe]

Great!

It works; unlike the results with avconv, by using ffmpeg and the line:

-s 1920x1080 -r 29.97 -b 220000k -vcodec dnxhd -ac 2 -acodec pcm_s16 -threads 8 -y

in WinFF, my file conversions from AVCHD to DNxHD are perfect; no longer any visible artefacts that I observed otherwise. I am very satisfied. And unlike EKD (which I also appreciate for its other possibilities) WinFF maintains the file title in converted files (big advantage).

Now a few questions:

I have only changed the line about ffmpeg in place of avconv, I have not changed the one concerning avplay or FFplay, what is it for?

In the .winff folder has now appeared a .sh file containing the conversion list I made, will this file become a problem in over time?

I would like to make new registrations for the presets rather than modify the existing ones, so as to cover all the possibilities (not so many) of the configurations offered by DNxHD. How should I do that?

I am very pleased with the valuable advice I have received here.

Pierre

Le 2017-09-12 à 13:44, Paul Gevers a écrit :

[Ian Stoffberg]

hi,

the hard work is over, you're almost there.

If you look in the edit/presets menu, you will find your custom preset there. 

You will recognise it from the xml you edited.

Instead of modifying xml, use that screen to make your different presets and group them in the same category for future use.

The .sh files are created during the conversion process.  Can't remember if they get deleted or reused.   I'm pretty sure you can delete it safely, but can't check at the moment.

Ian

     Why not make your own script to do the conversion using ffmpeg
     static or use ffmpeg instead of avconv in the winff settings.

     On 11 Sep 2017 02:53, "Pierre autourduglobe"
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         Well after a lot of testing I ended up finding configurations
         that work.

         However, defects in the images always appear and even when
         retrieving the line of code used in "EKD" (-s 1920x1080 -r
         29.97 -b 220000k -vcodec dnxhd -ac 2 -acodec pcm_s16le
         -threads 8 -y) have the same image defect.

         Under EKD-svn (which uses ffmpeg static instead) the image is
         perfect, but unfortunately EKD does not maintain the original
         titles of the files ...

         That's why I wanted to use WinFF; it maintains the original
         file titles.

         It will therefore be necessary that I resign myself to
         correct all the titles of the very many files that I have to
         convert by lot under ... EKD.

         Thank you, nevertheless, for your very valuable help.



         Le 2017-09-09 à 23:25, Pierre autourduglobe a écrit :

> wrote:
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         >>>
         >>> Hi,
         >>>
         >>> Does WinFF convert videos to DNxHD?
         >>>
         >>> I do not see any mention of DNxHD in the possible list
         of WinFF presets.
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         Trusty Tahr) and WinnFF 1.5.3 was installed with Synaptic
         from the repositories.
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[Pierre autourduglobe]

Before making my own preset list for DNxHD, I would like to settle a small problem and optimize the configuration line.

As I said the line I found and that I currently use works:

-s 1920x1080 -r 29.97 -b 220000k -vcodec dnxhd -ac 2 -acodec pcm_s16le -y

It converted my AVCHD files into DNxHD of good quality.

However, the terminal sends me an error message each time:

"Please use -b:a or -b:v, -b is ambiguous"

I do not understand what it means or how to correct it.

I also do not know if the instructions of my line are in the right order... I have seen examples where the order and the instructions chosen were very variable... to convert to DNxHD with ffmpeg.

Can the indications of the line be entered in any order?

Pierre

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Try -b:v cause it's the video bitrate

there is something that require order, some don't. it varies

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[Pierre autourduglobe]

Yes, thank you, it worked; the alert has disappeared.
I wonder what does "-y" mean at the end of the line?
Pierre

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[BiggMatt]

It means if there's a question that ffmpeg would normally stop and ask, the answer is automatically "yes" 

[Ian Stoffberg]

Pierre,

ffmpeg itself has a million options and I think I understand < 10 of them.

Have a look at the docs.  You might find some other ways to enhance your workflow or improve your output in some way.

We normally don't respond to questions where we think the user should do more research.  We're not being unfriendly.  We encourage the user community to solve these problems as they get to know the power of ffmpeg and wrap it in a preset using WinFF.

[Pierre autourduglobe]

I understand, but you will agree that I have nevertheless made a research effort in this whole process.

In any case thank you for your help.

Pierre

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[Ian Stoffberg]

I didn't mean to sound too negative.  I appreciated a) your patience and b) your willingness to listen to our advice.

It was an excellent collaboration with fruitful results. win win.

regards

Ian