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[Arunan]

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[AD]

Hi Arunan,

Myself Dr. Anubha Das, working as Assistant Professor of Zoology in
a college at University of Delhi. Its a really good initiative and i
would love to be a part of it. As far as that pure culture is
concerned, i cann't be of any help to you right now, but in case you
want to know about some lepidopteran insect culture than i can
definetely help you in that.

Regards
AD

[nelliemuller]

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Thank you for sharing, Arunan.
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
http://www.wikieducator.org/EL4C25/Registration
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Nelliemuller
skype:nelliedeutschmuller

[MC Arunan]

 

Hi Anubha,

That's really great.

 The Biology Network shall include you in our Resources list against lepidopterans. Do you cultivate silkworms or what? I can think of only that as the staple lepidopteran being cultivated. We will be happy to know if you do more than that.

Glad to know you. I am not sure whether I met you at Savitri's college in the October workshop.

Arunan

 

[Patricia Schlicht]

Sorry, please ignore the message below, my system was playing a trick on
me.
Warm regards,
Patricia

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From: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Patricia
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:55 AM
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biology-network-sophia-mumbai-unit


Somebody deleted the entire Google Discussion Forum for Teacher
collaboration with over 70 people who have registered yesterday and
all the work that had been put into it, replacing it with this forum.

Patricia

[anubha das]

Hi Arunan,

 

I am not into sericulture, though i know the rearing method of silkworms too. I am into agricultural pest insects like the one most heard off- Helicoverpa armigera , Plutella xylostella, Spodoptera litura, these are some of the most notorious and destructive insect pests of present day world.

 we didin't had the opportunity to know each other as i wasn't there in October workshop. 

Regards

AD       

[MC Arunan]

Hi Anubha,

 Is it easy to maintain Helicoverpa? Do you maintain these at your place so that I can direct people to you?

It will be great connecting people with expertise in varying areas. Nice if you can tell us about the areas of your interest in education and research.

I have been involved in developing Neuroscience  as an area for teaching-learning in Indian University system. You may have noticed this emerging/frontier area is generally treated very cursorily by biologists in India, though NBRC got started at Gurgaon in the early part of this decade.

 

Our approach is to develop simple model systems in Neurosciences which can be handled even at the school level but  with which one could ask sophisticated questions! We are a major partner in the Indian Academy of Neurosciences (IAN) and will be soon holding a Symposium in Neuroscience Education at the Annual Conference of the IAN.

 

I should state that we are in the fore-front of celebrating 150 Year of the Origin of Species and the Darwin200. Please join us in this, since NOTHING IN BIOLOGY MAKES SENSE EXCEPT IN THE LIGHT OF EVOLUTION!

Sorry for writing this long a piece.

Arunan

 

[Savithri Singh]

Dear Anubha - where are you from?

We have a B.Sc in Sericulture in our college.  .... if that info can help you.  We do silkworm rearing in college .

Savithri

2009/4/7 MC Arunan <mcar...@gmail.com>

--
Dr. Savithri Singh
Principal
Acharya Narendra Dev College
(University of Delhi)
Govindpuri, Kalkaji
New Delhi 110 019

Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547
Fax: (011) 2629 4540
Res: 2584 8151     2584 9786    2584 3496

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http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College
http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl
http://wikieducator.org/India
http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch
http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri

[MC Arunan]

Dear Savitri,

If you have sericulture and a regular supply of the caterpillar, it will be wonderful a system for one to look into the imaginal discs ( should be rather huge compared to the drosophila which we use regularly)  and through that the Devlopmental Biology, for Zoologists!

I remember seeing a mulberry tree near the car park of your college.

Arunan

 

[Savithri Singh]

Am connecting you to sarita kumar who can better answer your queries. 

We do mulberry as well as Eri silkworm culture.  Sorry that you did not see it - were too busy with the L4C :(

[anubha das]

Hi Arunan,

 

 I won't say its easy to maintain Helicoverpa, but at the same time am not discouraging you by saying it's not possible. You need to have some experience in insect rearing before you lay your hands on Helicoverpa. It's actually a bit fussy insect. Spodoptera is relatively much easier to maintain. At present am not maintaining the cultures at my workplace but intend to do so in future. I am ready to help out people who are intersted in learning the rearing technique. 

 

Entomology is my first love though I am teaching variety of courses at my college - Ecology, Biotechnology,Non-Chordata, Medical Zoology.  I am also involved in development of content for the new courses (Life Sciences) that Delhi university has introduced., an initative of Institute of Life Long Learning (ILLL), Univ. of Delhi. My area of reasearch was primarily insect behaviour, am continuing with the same at present.

 

It'll be a pleasure for me to be a part of the celebration (150 Year of the Origin of Species and the Darwin200). Thanks a lot for that invitation.

 

Regards

AD

[MC Arunan]

Hi Anubha,

 

1. We are very concerned about the rather cavalier manner in which Evolution is dealt with in Biology curricula in India. We would like to do a survey among biology teachers to know how serious their own way of looking at this issue is. You will agree that the raging controversy between Richard Dawkins and Stephen Jay Gould is hardly dealt with even in our PG classes.

 

2. We are also worried about the near complete silence  among the literate regarding Darwin and evolution even in this year of 150 Yrs Since the Origin of Species and in his 200th birth anniversary.

 

3. Areas like molecular phylogeny and EVODEVO could be brought to the forefront in the curriculum, especially, of New Biology courses like Lifesciences, Biotechnology etc. I would be happy to know how your center is dealing with evolution in the Lifescience program.

 

4. Incidentally, I am invited by a group of people of multi-disciplinary vintage, to participate in a discussion, tomorrow, on Darwin and his contemporary intellectuals! I am excited about it. Shall let you know if you are interested in.

 

5. Will be glad if you could start with like-minded people, at your place a Darwin200 club.

 

6. Some of us are involved in developing laboratory Modules and Activites to aid in the teaching-learning of evolution. You could be a part of it if you are interested.

 

7. I think, it is important to organize Darwin200 clubs in schools and colleges through out the country since Dobzhansky said correctly that "NOTHING IN BIOLOGY MAKES SENSE EXCEPT IN THE LIGHT OF EVOLUTION"!

 

8.There is going to be a major conference in September on Darwin organized by, among others, the famous Evolutionary Biologist Dr. Raghvendra Gadagkar.

 

Sorry for writing such a long a piece.

Arunan

[Dr. Edward P. Sakiewicz]

PLEASE REMOVE ME FROM THIS EMAIL LIST.

THANK YOU.

Hi Anubha,

1. We are very concerned about the rather cavalier manner in which
Evolution
is dealt with in Biology curricula in India. We would like to do a survey
among biology teachers to know how serious their own way of looking at
this
issue is. You will agree that the raging controversy between Richard
Dawkins
and Stephen Jay Gould is hardly dealt with even in our PG classes.

2. We are also worried about the near complete silence among the literate
regarding Darwin and evolution even in this year of 150 Yrs Since the
Origin
of Species and in his 200th birth anniversary.

3. Areas like *molecular phylogeny and EVODEVO* could be brought to the

forefront in the curriculum, especially, of New Biology courses like

Lifesciences, Biotechnology etc. *I would be happy to know how your center
is dealing with evolution in the Lifescience program*.

4. Incidentally, I am invited by a group of people of multi-disciplinary
vintage, to participate in a discussion, tomorrow, on Darwin and his
contemporary intellectuals! I am excited about it. Shall let you know if
you
are interested in.

*5.* Will be glad if you could start with like-minded people, at your
place
a *Darwin200 club*.

>> Our approach is to develop *simple model systems* in Neurosciences

>> which
>> can be handled even at the school level but with which one could ask
>> sophisticated questions! We are a major partner in the Indian Academy
>> of
>> Neurosciences (IAN) and will be soon holding a Symposium in
>> Neuroscience
>> Education at the Annual Conference of the IAN.
>>
>> I should state that we are in the fore-front of celebrating 150 Year of
>> the Origin of Species and the Darwin200. Please join us in this, since
>> NOTHING IN BIOLOGY MAKES SENSE EXCEPT IN THE LIGHT OF EVOLUTION!
>> Sorry for writing this long a piece.
>> Arunan
>>
>>
>> On 4/6/09, anubha das <yan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Arunan,
>>>
>>> I am not into sericulture, though i know the rearing method of
>>> silkworms
>>> too. I am into agricultural pest insects like the one most heard off-

>>> *Helicoverpa
>>> armigera , Plutella xylostella, Spodoptera litura*, these are some of

[Patricia Schlicht]

Done, thank you.

Warm regards,
Patricia

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[MC Arunan]

I am sorry, Patricia, if Dr Sakiewicz chose to quit because of my mail. At any rate, I hope, it was not because the typos in it.

Arunan

[Patricia Schlicht]

I highly doubt it, Arunan, but as I said, I don’t have an email address under the email he sent me. Thank you.

Warm regards

Patricia

 

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<br

[Phil Bartle]

What is the difference between teaching and training?

[Dilip Barad]

Teaching is simplifying course content to cater the need of the students.

Training is to teach how to do the above mentioned task.

 

From: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Bartle

Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 11:41 AM
To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com

[Phil Bartle]

 
Transferring skills
Transferring information
Transferring knowledge
Stimulating wisdom
Encouraging
Awareness raising
Mobilizing
Organizing
Getting them to think for themselves
Allocating accreditation
See: http://www.scn.org/cmp/modules/mob-trn.htm

I do not think it is so easy. The difference is not so black and white. We are teachers; we are trainers. We are role models. We instill morals. We rearrange information to present it. When we collaborate with others, we need to know what their purposes are.
See: http://www.scn.org/cmp/modules/edu-edu.htm

[elizabeth mbasu]

Hi,  I think training is guiding the trainee to perform or acquire (a) certain skill(s). In most cases, trainees themselves choose which skills to learn.These are skills the trainee needs to apply in their lives to meet their immediate needs, to improve their livelihoods. Teaching in communicating some information to the leaner to enable the learner to move to higher levels of knowledge in the respective fields of achievement. Liz --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Dilip Barad <dilip...@gmail.com> wrote:

[anubha das]

Hi,

 

 I completely agree with the Dilip's view that teaching is your skill to make a concept as simple as possible for the others (learners) to understand while training is learning this methodology of making things simpler .

Anubha    

[ummed singh]

Hi,

Teaching is related with mostly cognitive aspects whereas training is related with psychomotor aspects which is related with skills. 

2009/4/9 Phil Bartle <ph...@philbartle.org>

What is the difference between teaching and training?

--
Dr.Ummed Singh, Deptt. of Education,
Veer Narmad South Gujarat University, Surat-395007. Mob:091-9426132024

[MC Arunan]

Dear all,

Teaching is praxis. If it is not, it should be made into. 

 

Praxis is practice that transforms (both the teacher and the taught)!

 

humbly yours,

Arunan

[missan]

Hi everybody there in the WikiEducator Teacher Collaborator Forum, I
am Sanjaya Mishra (User:Missan in WikiEd). The discussion is getting
interesting. Some of you may like to see/read/browse the following
resource that I wrote sometime back:

http://www.ignou.ac.in/institute/WebCD_Hb15/STDODE_index.htm

regards, Sanjaya

On Apr 9, 11:11 am, Phil Bartle <p...@philbartle.org> wrote:
> What is the difference between teaching and training?
>
>
>

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[MC Arunan]

Dear Missan,

It is great to know that attempts are made at the university level (IGNOU) to understand what are training and education meant by. I have only gone through the first part of your book. Though it is patently unjust to make comments without going through the whole book, I am going to do exactly that uncharitable act, here. My take is: that education taken as an one sided affair in which knowledge, concepts and ideas are transmitted leaves much to be desired. Teachers too get educated (as much as the students) in the process of teaching. Or rather, good teaching is necessarily dialectical. The one way process (of teacher as the giver & the taught, the recipient), perhaps will not work even at the primary level.

 

I had written earlier that teaching is praxis.

 

Regards,

 Arunan

[Phil Bartle]

 
I agree with MC. Education should not be a one way street. This is, to me, why a Wiki approach is so valuable, it allows, even encourages, two way education. Among the various Wiki sources, WikiEducator helps the process of educating the most to get back to its classical format.

Coincidentally, I am most rewarded by what I learn from participants of my on line training when they offer feedback and dialogue. (This blurs the line between training and education).

[irishbreakfast]

For me, teaching vs training is secondary to the relationship between
'teacher' and 'student' who both exist in a social context that must
be included in the process.

And who is 'teacher' and who is 'student'? It is a reciprocal
relationship. When I instruct my children in, well anything, I usually
learn patience and practice creative ways of motivating or explaining.
When my children taught me skateboarding terminology I learned to
listen.

Victoria

[Felix Olakulehin]

Dear All,

I think that Ummed's description fits my understanding of the
difference between teaching and training. While teaching involves the
development of more cognitive capabilities, training is oriented
towards more psychomotor skills.

Having said that, I must also add that these definitions ted to have
cultural connotations: when we are facilitating learning of some
subjects with theoretical orientation, we say we are teaching,
meanwhile when facilitation involves the acquisition of technical
skills we say it is a training procedure.

Recall that in the college, we 'teach' students the sociological and
historical foundations of education; while we 'train' them to develop
lesson plans and design simple teaching aids.

I hope to learn more from this collaborative.

On 09/04/2009, ummed singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,Teaching is related with mostly cognitive aspects whereas training is

--
Quality is not an act, It's a Habit!
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Research Fellow
Regional Training and Research Institute for Open and Distance Learning
National Open University of Nigeria
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Lagos - Nigeria
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folak...@nou.edu.ng, felix...@gmail.com
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Commonwealth of Learning (COL) Canada to conduct research and capacity
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special focus on the West African sub-region

[Naveen Virupakshachary]

Teaching is to make students/learners to acquire a simplified knowledge that the teacher has already gathered through his/her education and experience.

But, the training is to make the teacher an effective transporter of that acquired knowledge or skills.

Naveen V
Lecturer in English,
Government First Grade College,
Koppa, 577126
Karnataka
India

[Chris Babowal]

Teaching is providing the concrete cognitive requirements where training is defining a skill already learned.

 

Chris Babowal
President
Babowal & Associates, Inc.
2807 New Castle Way
Carlsbad, CA 92010
Office:(760)695-9000
Cell: (408)504-8899

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From: Naveen Virupakshachary <then...@gmail.com>
To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:48:26 AM
Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: Teaching vs Training

[Patricia Schlicht]

Thank you, Naveen for your contribution towards the discussions.

Warm wishes,

Patricia

[irishbreakfast]

I should have put this up before... The Maori concept, ako, might be
of interest to some.

Try looking here:
http://tereomaori.tki.org.nz/Te-reo-Maori-curriculum-guidelines/Teaching-and-learning-te-reo-Maori/Aspects-of-planning/The-concept-of-ako
Cheers,
Victoria

On Apr 12, 2:11 am, MC Arunan <mcaru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Missan,
> It is great to know that attempts are made at the university level
> (IGNOU) to understand what are training and education meant by. I have only
> gone through the first part of your book. Though it is patently unjust to
> make comments without going through the whole book, I am going to do exactly
> that uncharitable act, here. My take is: that education taken as an one
> sided affair in which knowledge, concepts and ideas are transmitted leaves
> much to be desired. Teachers too get educated (as much as the students) in
> the process of teaching. Or rather, good teaching is necessarily
> dialectical. The one way process (of teacher as the giver & the taught, the
> recipient), perhaps will not work even at the primary level.
>

> I had written earlier that *teaching is praxis.*
> **
> Regards,
>  Arunan

[Dilip Barad]

Dear Victoria,
You have shared interesting link. Thanks...

Dilip

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From: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

[Nimal Chandrananda Suriya Patabendige]

Dear , Dr,Sanjayamishra, I got a valubal hand book in distance education.I am thanking for that first. In this traning i am always waiting for your valeubal advaice.After read this hand book , When got problam i hope to ask you first .I am thinking this inought today.Thank you very much. I am Nimal Chandrananda.Sri Lanka.National Instiut of Education. --- On Sat, 4/11/09, missan <sanjayami...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Andy P]

Hello all,

I'm a student at Olin College of Engineering near Boston. We're lucky
to have Woodie Flowers, an MIT design professor, come and speak by us
every once in a while. His perspective on the difference between
education and training is well worth reading. Check out one of his
articles here: http://www.clemson.edu/ese/news/sem08/1031.pdf

Andy

On Apr 16, 5:55 am, Nimal Chandrananda Suriya Patabendige

<ncsuriya...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear , Dr,Sanjayamishra,
> I got a valubal hand book in distance education.I am thanking for that first. In this traning i
> am always waiting for your valeubal advaice.After read this hand book , When got problam
> i hope to ask you first .I am thinking this inought today.Thank you very much.
> I am Nimal Chandrananda.Sri Lanka.National Instiut of Education.
>

> --- On Sat, 4/11/09, missan <sanjayamishra.ig...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Phil Bartle]

Andy, that is one of the best distinctions I have ever read. The
commodification of education is a serious concern, where students
attend only to get their "union ticket," ie certification for getting
a job rather than a deeper understanding of our world around us. This
puts a new light on it.

[Tili Afamasaga]

Thanks Victoria,
The concept of ako in te reo Maori is of course the same as the concept
a'o in Samoan. This is the root word for a'oa'o (to learn), a'oga or
a'oa'oga(learning) and where the teacher is faia'oga (fai-to make/create
and a'oga-learning).
Cheers
Tili

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From: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of irishbreakfast

Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 10:32 PM
To: WikiEducator Teacher Collaboration Forum
Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: Teaching vs Training

[MC Arunan]

Dear Victoria,

 

This is what I was looking for: ako!

 

When five of us, teachers, in the Department of Lifesciences, Sophia College, Mumbai, India were given a choice to conduct Neurobiology Masters program, though it was looking formidable to do so along with our undergraduate teaching, we did not want to leave it. This was because we knew then, in the late 80s, that Neuroscience is were action is going to be (along with perhaps, in Developmental Biology. We were not far off the mark, if you count the Nobel prizes!). None of us then were specialized in Neurobiology either. Still we chose to take the responsibility of conducting this program in a college on behalf of the 140 years old University of Mumbai!

 

Our mind was clear: we would develop a program of Teaching-Learning through Hands-on Research. The area of Neuroscience being vast, we decided to take up  5 different areas to ask questions that could be addressed by simple model systems. We, the mentors, learned along with our students and weekly presentations by groups shared each one's exploits and weaknesses. Two Five-monthly peer-teaching teaching-learning workshops allowed to teach each other the techniques acquired by each group under the mentor. Today we are recognized as a strong group in Neuroscience Education in the country (India).

 

We did not know that our method has a name: ako!

Thanks,

MC Arunan

[Phil Bartle]

I love the multilingual element of this discussion. I also applaud MC and his colleagues for designing such a programme

[Patricia]

Dear Friends,

I have summarised all your comments regarding the question what is
teaching (education) vs training.
Please find it here:

http://www.wikieducator.org/Teacher_Resources#Teaching_versus_Training

On Apr 8, 11:11 pm, Phil Bartle <p...@philbartle.org> wrote:
> What is the difference between teaching and training?
>
>
>

[MC Arunan]

 

Dear Patricia,

Thanks for the summary. It's great.

 

Thank you also for including the neuroscience education story of ours. However, I feel, our concept of teaching as a dialectic process needs reiterating. Hence this mail.

For, I wrote in one of my earlier mails: "My take is: that education taken as an one sided affair in which knowledge, concepts and ideas are transmitted leaves much to be desired. Teachers too get educated (as much as the students) in the process of teaching. Or rather, good teaching is necessarily dialectical. The one way process (of teacher as the giver & the taught, the recipient), perhaps will not work even at the primary level."

I had written earlier that teaching is praxis."

Thanks.

Arunan

[Patricia Schlicht]

Dear MC,

 

Many thanks for your comments. In the wiki-way, I am not the keeper of the site, the community is, I cut and pasted the content of your email into the summary. Feel free to log in, edit and save the revised version on the page.

 

Please don’t forget that the portal belongs to each of you, so you can add/edit/change/amend or create anything you would like or need. If you need help, we are here for you. While I had the idea and put the concept into practice, it is the communities’ responsibility to turn this into something that works for all of you. The forum should serve as discussion point to receive feedback on any actions that you are planning to take, if it has an impact on the portal. If you create your own project under the appropriate link by creating your own sub-link, you will be responsible for this and the community is behind you to help if you need them.

 

This is the wiki-way, hope it makes sense.

 

Warmest regards,

Patricia

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From: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MC Arunan
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:23 PM
To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: Teaching vs Training

 

 

Dear Patricia,

> - Show quoted text -<br

[Gita Mathur]

Dear Patricia
On behalf of all of us who participated in this discussion on Teaching &
training, I want to thank you for compiling it so beautifully.

http://www.wikieducator.org/Teacher_Resources#Teaching_versus_Training

This is a nice trendsetter for this forum
warm regards
Gita
-
Dr. Gita Mathur <gita....@gmail.com>
Associate Professor of Botany
Gargi College (University of Delhi)
Siri Fort Road, New Delhi 110049
College Phone: +91 11 2649 4544

Web:
http://wikieducator.org/User:Gita_Mathur
http://wikieducator.org/India
http://www.slideshare.net/Gita_Mathur

On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 19:33 -0700, Patricia Schlicht wrote:
> Dear MC,
>
>
>
> Many thanks for your comments. In the wiki-way, I am not the keeper of
> the site, the community is, I cut and pasted the content of your email
> into the summary. Feel free to log in, edit and save the revised
> version on the page.
>
>
>
> Please don’t forget that the portal belongs to each of you, so you can
> add/edit/change/amend or create anything you would like or need. If
> you need help, we are here for you. While I had the idea and put the
> concept into practice, it is the communities’ responsibility to turn
> this into something that works for all of you. The forum should serve
> as discussion point to receive feedback on any actions that you are
> planning to take, if it has an impact on the portal. If you create
> your own project under the appropriate link by creating your own
> sub-link, you will be responsible for this and the community is behind
> you to help if you need them.
>
>
>
> This is the wiki-way, hope it makes sense.
>
>
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Patricia
>
>

> ______________________________________________________________________