gvim on windows does not accept Alt modifier key

[spinor]

hello, everyone

when i press Alt-<printable character>, it seems that gvim only takes
<printable character>; it cannot detect that Alt is pressed

trying winaltkeys seems not working:
set winaltkeys=no

mapping itself seems working:
noremap <M-N> :echo "M-n works!"<CR>
map <C-N> <M-N>

this yields :map
<C-N> <M-N>
<M-N> * :echo "M-n works!"<CR>
and Ctrl-N prints "M-n works!", while Alt-N is taken regarded as N
resulting in searching functionality

does anyone have idea that force gvim to interpret Alt modifier key?

i'm using japanese patched gvim on windows 7 64bit, which is distributed
by http://www.kaoriya.net/software/vim

thanks

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[天井冴太 (AmaiSaeta)]

Hi, spinor.

2013/3/2 spinor <super_cow...@yahoo.co.jp>:

> mapping itself seems working:
> noremap <M-N> :echo "M-n works!"<CR>
> map <C-N> <M-N>
>
> this yields :map
> <C-N> <M-N>
> <M-N> * :echo "M-n works!"<CR>
> and Ctrl-N prints "M-n works!", while Alt-N is taken regarded as N
> resulting in searching functionality

Try this.
:noremap <M-n> :echo "FOO"<CR>
:noremap <M-N> :echo "BAR"<CR>
and check result of Alt-n and Alt-Shift-n.
<M-n> (Alt-n) and <M-N> (Alt-Shift-n) are different.
But <C-n> and <C-N> are same mapping.

I do not know whether this is a correct behavior.
But it is very confusion...


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[spinor]

hello, amai san

(2013/03/03 13:10), 天井冴太 (AmaiSaeta) wrote:
> Try this.
> :noremap <M-n> :echo "FOO"<CR>
> :noremap <M-N> :echo "BAR"<CR>
> and check result of Alt-n and Alt-Shift-n.
> <M-n> (Alt-n) and <M-N> (Alt-Shift-n) are different.
> But <C-n> and <C-N> are same mapping.

that works fine just as i intended. thanks!

> I do not know whether this is a correct behavior.
> But it is very confusion...

huum...

vim documentation use <C-A> not <C-a>
it does not refer to difference between <M-n> and <M-N>, too

vim manner is somewhat hard to get used to...

ありがとうございました！