Forum members have been congratulating Professor Toyin Falola for another high profile award. The awards keep coming. Who is this Professor Toyin Falola, if I may ask?
I am aware that he is a distinguished Professor of History in an Ivy League University in the USA. I am also aware that he has written over a hundred widely acclaimed books, scholarly articles, etc, including poetry. He is on the faculties of many World class Universities and chairs many distinguished organizations Worldwide, and so what?
How many chieftaincy titles does he have? During anniversaries of his birth, marriage, etc, I do not recall seeing and/or hearing congratulatory messages to him by “well wishers” on Nigerian newspapers, television and radio stations.
He does not even have a “National Honour Award” like the Nollywood comedian, “Aki” of the “Aki and Paw-paw” fame. No Street in Abuja have been named after him, soon, a major street in Abuja would be named after the late Boko Haram leader.
He was not even nominated in the last ministerial nomination, even if he was, I am sure he would not have been able to mobilize “Ghana must go” bags to the Senate chamber for his “clearance”.
How many times has he dined with his country’s President? Something Niger Delta militants do on daily basis. The Boko Haram people will soon be invited.
Does he have the clout to introduce me to someone who will give me a note to someone who will phone my state governor, Chief, Dr., Sir, Owelle, etc, Rochas Okorocha,(JP) to appoint me his Special Adviser on Poetry Matters? I hear there is a Special Adviser on Comedy or something that sounds similar.
Does he……..? Abeg make I hear something jare! Right now I feel like joining Boko Haram.
------- Chidi
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From: Lavonda Staples
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Date: 08/10/2011 01:41PM
Sent via smoke signals!
----- Original Message -----From: IkhideSent: 8/10/2011 11:05:48 PMSubject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Who Is This Professor Toyin Falola?
I could argue, that Lavonda, was in her own way, being tongue-in-cheek, albeit less successfully than Mazi Opara. In other words, our sista should keep her day job and leave the njakiri satire for those who are brave enough to dare. ;-)
- IkhideSent via smoke signals!
From: Pamela Smith <pamel...@mail.unomaha.edu>Sender: usaafric...@googlegroups.comDate: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:01:27 -0500ReplyTo: usaafric...@googlegroups.com
Amen, Pius, and not only Nigerians, but Ghanaians like myself have no patience for that Lavonda-type outburst. I nearly fell off my chair as I read Lavonda’s admonition to “Africans” to remember the crest on which they rode to modernity. I was shocked it came from her having read many of her postings on this net. But, I was not surprised either. In the bosom of many African Americans, this feeling of distaste for Africans in America burn like Dante’s Inferno.
Chidi Opara’s satire, whose thrust Lavonda missed woefully, served to ignite a feeling hidden and latent in her heart. She just let it rip and we all now know what burns inside Lavonda about her African brethren. We gain nothing in our cultural bridging if we wield history and memory as tools of condescension and persecution.
Edward Kissi
i want to forget what lavonda said about chidi's praisesong, about the
arrogance and resentments, and ask for the healing moment, which is
crucial in cornelius's request to bridge the gap. the chasm, he calls
it, rightly.
the gap may be there; the bridge is, too, for those who are willing to
take it.
ken
On 8/11/11 8:55 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:
> Dear African people,
>
> What are we witnessing here? Cultural Relativism? The beginning of a
> revolution?
> Is it yet another � Clash of Civilisations� between Africa and Africa-
> America?
> A dis-connect?
>
> To anyone following these exchanges it sure reads like a clash of
> cultural and historical perspectives, the way that we look on history
> and reflect on contemporary reality.
>
> It's time to try bridging the gap - the yawning/gaping chasm between
> the two continents as the cross cultural/ political dialogue
> continues, it seems to me that what's demanded is not just some more
> peace 'n' love, but peace 'n' love and understanding about who we are
> and where we're coming from � and that demands a lot of listening to
> and understanding the other.
>
> Remember the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King's famous last words:
>
> �Well, I don't know what will happen now. We've got some difficult
> days ahead. But it really doesn't matter with me now, because I've
> been to the mountaintop. And I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like
> to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned
> about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to
> go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the
> Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know
> tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land!�
>
>
>
>
> http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkivebeentothemountaintop.htm
>
> We've come along way since then.
>
> Some people paid their dues. Jesse Jackson shed tears after so many
> years of singing the the Black man's blues
>
> Today, symbolically Brother Barack Obama is a personification of
> Africa-America.
>
> Remember too that �One Black man represents all, all over this
> world� ( Steele Pulse)
> That includes those who hunger and thirst in the Horn of Africa, in
> Somalia, Kenya and Ethiopia.
>
> Yet, what we have here is good group dynamics in motion. After the
> exchange � after the storm , after the rain the next stage is that as
> a group we are stronger, more integrated as we move ahead and outta
> this criss in confidence and in catharsis we can hear Sister Lavonda
> or Sister Staples holler :
>
> http://www.google.se/search?q=How+I+got+over+%28+Gospel&rls=com.microsoft:sv:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_en
>
> Sister Lavonda represents an essential ingredient that's been mostly
> missing from the USA � Africa Pan-Africanist list-serve, and that is
> the African-American component - and here was must be able to not
> only tolerate but also accept diversity of opinion and perceptive �
> it's a dialogue and not a monologue series between mostly Africans
> resident in North America � and Africans in Africa and other parts
> of the diaspora:
>
> LaVonda writing form the heart of Black America
> Pope Pius from inside Canada
> Pamela � yet another diaspora part of the US of America
> Chidi from Owerri or Port Harcourt
> Cornelius from Sweden and last not least � waiting for him to peak
> peek in and speak easy with his bow and arrow, Kenneth Harrow a
> resident Honorary African
>
> � It was a joke.� That's what Soul Sister Lavonda said in her first
> retort to Lady Pamela Smith. ( When I say �Lady Pamela Smith �you
> might well imagine that she is marr-ied to some Great Englishman who
> has his buttocks permanently seated somewhere in the House of Lords,
> but I am not being ironic, iconoclastic, sarcastic or even satirical,
> when I say �Lady� in this context, I am merely thinking of the late
> great Fela's piece which begins, � If you ask African woman, African
> woman noh go 'gree, she go say � she go say � Ah be Lady oh� and in
> according the title Lady to her I am honouring her with added status
> in addition to her Status of Professor of English ( we seem to have so
> many of them in this series)
>
> So, as I was saying, in her first retort to Lady Pamela Smith, Sister
> Lavonda said it straight �It was a Joke�. And now we've gone beyond
> the joking points of Chidi's original intention with that his light-
> hearted piece and we are now exchanging historic blows in the on-
> going clash of civilisations, clash of cultures, clash of
> contentions, contending erudition, perspectives, even talking modes
> and the only thing that's missing is to hear the pious Pius declaring
> as he declares cultural war on our sister, that � Jesus of Nazareth �
> is on his side. I dare not make fun of a Yoruba deity, or use His
> name in vain.
>
> He could set the historic record straight : not just Africa-America
> saying to Africa, � You sold us� when Africa should be apologising to
> everybody �We sold each other�. Just as Joseph's brothers sold Joseph
> to some Arab slave traders (Genesis 37: 26 -28 ) � and Lo � he
> eventually saved a lot of people from hunger and starvation.......
>
> My personal acquaintance with Africa-America started in Sierra Leone.
> After the Peace-Corp programme started under JFK, we always had a
> couple of African American peace Corps volunteers staying with us, at
> home every year, during their acculturation programme, whilst they
> were getting adjusted to Sierra Leone Creole culture and language. The
> experience derived from those contacts resulted in very great
> closeness to our Brothers and Sisters - and I wouldn't be the same
> person without that sort of background which was further developed
> during my eighteen months in Ghana - to which place 600 African
> Americans arrived annually � in the post Nkrumah era, in search of
> their roots. And very close relationships with the African Americans
> at the Institute of African Studies to which institution my Swedish
> wife and I were affiliated as post-graduate students.....
>
> Ironically, when I first arrived in New York I was introduced not as
> a Brother but as a cousin...... a slip of the tongue, I guess.
>
> � Ivy League� too has a place as a purposeful effect in Chidi's
> piece.
> So does Sister Lavonda's haute couture/ haute Culture, � Parisian
> French�
>
> I locate Chidi playing the role of jokester in that piece. - to be a
> jokester you've got to be a bit of a psychologist - satire is the
> general or generic term - an approximation of the tradition in
> whose voice Chidi speaks / writes. And a parallel / linear translation
> of his text into the common idiom of �Broken� English/ Nigerian
> pidgin/ patois would make this even more clear. The whole thing would
> have to be spiced up with �Oga� the kind of stuff one usually heard
> on Radio Rivers Comedy hour or from the clowns in Owerri and Aba
> ( with very inflated Nigerian Broken English � Big Grammar� for
> Dickensian effect ( thinking of the Igbo guy who used to dress up as a
> woman on to do his comic music shows..... it's a West African
> tradition �.. and one more thing that Sister Lavonda will have to
> absorb as part of the International Afri-can cyberspace acculturation
> is that West African humour can also be very sadistic ( tragedy
> translates into comedy � the fall of a great man being something to
> laugh about ( if you can imagine poor Umaru Dikko arriving in
> Nigeria in a crate � after which � such violence in language, he
> would have � Vomited� the money..... )
> Professor Jones- Quartey has an essay on West African humour and you
> could do well to take a look at it and not taker offence....just as we
> could all do well to take a look at this:
>
> http://www.google.se/search?q=Mother+Wit+from+the+Laughing+Barrel&rls=com.microsoft:sv:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_en
>
>
> Lastly, e-specially to love-ly Soul Sister Lavonda: - it' s 3 o'clock
> in the morning and I've also been taking these �two ticks of a
> tock� to get through to you before the cock crows :
>
> History& memory is a special junction/ meeting place between Africa
> and Africa America and out of all these agreements/ dis-agreements -
> all part of the fruitful dialogue, this thesis and anti-thesis we may
> arrive at some meaningful synthesis as the dust gradually settles
> down where the elephants have been fighting. When Pius was talking
> to you, he was not only talking to you, there's no such privilege on
> these public pages - he was / is also talking through you to all of
> us and beyond � we shouldn't forget that even when he/ you are in an
> on-going personal conversation in this secluded public space.....
>
> At least we all have this in common: a lot of respect for Professorr
> Toyin Falola. That's a good uniting factor and there's no disagreement
> about that. That's progress and we can make more history as we move
> on from there....
>
> I hope that you'll like this:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=John+Coltrane+:+After+the+Rain&rls=com.microsoft:sv:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&hl=en
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 11, 9:27 pm, Godwin Okeke<sol1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Congrats Prof. This is yet another worthy recognition of excellence. Cheers!!!
>> G.S.M. Okeke, PhD
>> Pol. Sc. Dept.
>> UniLag
>>
>> From: KAYODE EESUOLA<gamesmaste...@yahoo.com>
>> To: "usaafric...@googlegroups.com"<usaafric...@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Who Is This Professor Toyin Falola?
>>
>> Congratulations prof....it's quite rare to see a scholar so committed in this generation...I doff my hat sir!
>>
>> From: Lavonda Staples<lrstap...@gmail.com>
>> To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Who Is This Professor Toyin Falola?
>>
>> Came out of the library for two ticks of a tock to answer Chidi
>>
>> 1. University of Texas at Austin is not an Ivy League University. It's great. I would pee my pants if I got accepted to their Ph. D. History program, BUT, it is a state university with a measure of open enrollment. The exceptions of state university as an Ivy League institution would be University of Virginia and University of California at Los Angeles (UVA and UCLA respectively). Examples of Ivy League are: Harvard, Yale, Columbia, etc. and so forth. I hope you get the picture my brother.
>>
>> 2. Stop Hatin'! (urban colloquialism)
>>
>> 3. Don't be burnin' bread! (Mississippi colloquialism created during slavery which is actually a LOOSE translation of a Yoruba proverb which guards using words to wish ill on someone, especially someone who is more successful, defenseless, or who cannot defend your accusation because you do not do so in public). Burnin' bread on someone is an act which displays envy and/or cowardice. The expression exists to make plain, without uncertainty, the ties between the Africans who arrived in what would become the United States and those Yoruba and Igbo (for the most part) relatives who remained back "home."
>>
>> 4. The work of Toyin Falola, especially what I'm reading right now, "A History of Nigeria" is essential for independent researchers and those who have grown weary of using the accepted canon(s) of history. What Dr. Falola does with his work is present a history from the mouths of those who populate history instead of an interpretation from outside/external to the subject(s).
>>
>> 5. Stop Hatin'!
>>
>> 4.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Chidi Anthony Opara<pip...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Forum members have been congratulating Professor Toyin Falola for another high profile award. The awards keep coming. Who is this Professor Toyin Falola, if I may ask?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I am aware that he is a distinguished Professor of History in an Ivy League University in the USA. I am also aware that he has written over a hundred widely acclaimed books, scholarly articles, etc, including poetry. He is on the faculties of many World class Universities and chairs many distinguished organizations Worldwide, and so what?
>>> How many chieftaincy titles does he have? During anniversaries of his birth, marriage, etc, I do not recall seeing and/or hearing congratulatory messages to him by �well wishers� on Nigerian newspapers, television and radio stations.
>>> He does not even have a �National Honour Award� like the Nollywood comedian, �Aki� of the �Aki and Paw-paw� fame. No Street in Abuja have been named after him, soon, a major street in Abuja would be named after the late Boko Haram leader.
>>> He was not even nominated in the last ministerial nomination, even if he was, I am sure he would not have been able to mobilize �Ghana must go� bags to the Senate chamber for his �clearance�.
>>> How many times has he dined with his country�s President? Something Niger Delta militants do on daily basis. The Boko Haram people will soon be invited.
>>> Does he have the clout to introduce me to someone who will give me a note to someone who will phone my state governor, Chief, Dr., Sir, Owelle, etc, Rochas Okorocha,(JP) to appoint me his Special Adviser on Poetry Matters? I hear there is a Special Adviser on Comedy or something that sounds similar.
>>> Does he��..? Abeg make I hear something jare! Right now I feel like joining Boko Haram.
>>> ------- Chidi
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Why can't La Vonda R. Staples, Adjunct Professor, say simply that she did not get Chidi's brand of satire first time, simple?
The direction this is taking - African-Americans vs. Africans - is not where this must go. It might titillate the palate of some academics eager to taste cross-cultural fight-blood, for the rest of us it just leaves a bad taste.
Kwasi
Kwasi Gyan-Apenteng,
Journalist & Communications Consultant
Accra
President,
Ghana Association of Writers
PAWA House, Accra
Ara Aye (World):
I was in my garden at dusk last week, trimming some bushes and must have disturbed, literally and figuratively, a half hidden hornets' nest. Needless to say, I got stung, pretty badly, and quickly learned to stay away from that invisible nest in my backyard. The lesson learned: let (uninvited) sleeping bees lie! -- didn't have the heart to spray the suckers dead the next day. Yes, my tan-brown skin is still black and blue and itching all over like crazy, but in a weird way, I kept wondering in my usual way of trying to find "the lesson", why I didn't see the attack coming... and then I remember, it was dusk --dah!
That same night, I read Chidi Anthony Opara's best-of-them-all "tribute" to Professor Toyin Falola and, in a broad sense, the God-awful stings and itching felt like small potatoes in comparison to the mucky "landscape", the backdrop out of which Chidi's salute to the unsung eminence of Falola emerged -- much like the way Yoruba gongon drum ensemble would praise-drum the honored and honorable one with frenzied zeal in a not too subtle satirical put-down of his detractors.
I do not know Chidi, nor have I read any of his poems. But his prose resonated with me. Reveling in this very well-done satirical piece, I complimented Chidi publicly on this forum, urging him in a light-hearted way to tow the line of the unsung writer-poet rather than activate his spoken thoughts of going the seemingly glamorous way of Boko Haram. Then came a reading that appeared to see it totally outside of its cultural context and the poet-singer's meaning and intended purpose -- obviously obvious to those within the shared culture (my dual Yoruba-Krio cultural background and studies allow for this presumption in this instance). A bit baffled by the reading, particularly coming from someone whose previous posts have almost regularly been instructive for their "on the markness" and spicy, folksy delivery, I slipped into my "never-waste-a-learning/teaching-moment" mode, and penned a brief rebuttal which, in its very first line, expressed both bafflement (albeit in school ma'am enumeration) and implicit praise for the previous posts' instructiveness and "on the mark" contribution to the forum. By the next morning, a retort came, stating simply: Madame, it's a joke (the perhaps facetious tone of the "madame" not lost on me). But, frankly, I shrugged it off as part of the "bite" I kind of enjoy in La Vonda's writing. Great, I thought, here's an opportunity to engage in fruitful dialogue on the function and subtleties of African American humor. My tons of questions, perhaps, would have led to the first published collaborative Staples & Smith Comparative African American-Yoruba Dictionary of Humor and Idioms, when...
EGBA MI O (heeeeelp!), KUSKAS DON CAM O (trouble/palaver has arrived)!
The roof caved in! Yesterday's simple, acceptable "...it's a joke" retort was not enough and had to be morphed into a beehive and turned into a full-blown declaration of war and name-calling against those ungrateful Africans! Stunned and stung yet again!? Yes, this time figuratively! Every time I log on to this forum, it's hard to forget that the bees are still in my backyard and some had found their way into the forum.
How did we ever get here? How did an alleged school ma'am "slap-on-the-wrist" response to what appeared to be a slap-in-face misreading of a writer's tribute turn into a condescending lecture to and about Africans? What is the connection between the event (of the exchanged responses) and the vitriolic raising of so many issues? How is Chidi's piece an example of how Africans have forgotten who and what they are, thus requiring "facts and logic" to prove this to them? If Chidi's disrespect of Falola's achievements is the issue here, then what has any of this "out-White man the White man?" got to do with Chidi's alleged bad upbringing except perhaps to provide a platform for venting about sundry things? Really, to know nothing about me, except, perhaps, hearsay, and lay on me the brunt below is rude, hurtful and unacceptable. In my rebuttal that started all this, I neither expected nor assumed anything since I know nothing about La Vonda Staples beyond what she has offered through her postings. My rebuttal neither intended nor bore any malice; it merely stated an observation and why, pure and simple. A reciprocative and similar, simple "school "ma'am slap-on-the-wrist" explanation of why the response to Chidi's text is "a joke" would have been not only educative but it also would've advanced the conversation and not mire it in this unproductive, hurtful mess. I simply am more baffled and disappointed than pissed. I don't get the connections and would very much like to "get it," which is what we are all about in this forum.
Thankfully, peacemakers have stepped forward spoken words of balm, especially brothers Cornelius Hamelberg and Ken Harrow. " Were meji oo le gbe ile kan (two mad men cannot inhabit the same space)" -- Yoruba proverb. Thus, to engage in a round of verbal theatrics at this point will be counter-productive. "Eni s'oro pupo, yio si so (One who talks too much is bound to talk nonsense)" -- Yoruba proverb.
So, to La Vonda, I say, don't get pissed and rant, EDUCATE!
I hear you La Vonda, I hear you loudly and clearly. Your frustration about the rift between Africans and African Americans and your passion for a "fix" are unmistakable, and your ability to articulate them with folksy candor is not only remarkable but also admirable. But none of us in this forum need to be reminded of the tragedy of this divide. In fact, a number of us have personal experiences with it more than you know. So you get to know some important facts about me and my experience: I've lived in this country for 45 years. I married an African American from a large Catholic family, raised two African American children, and I'm quite involved in the lives of my three grandchildren, Consequently, rueful conversations have been and still are a staple (no pun intended) at family gatherings, not to speak of the pervasiveness of the topic in the courses I teach and in discussions with colleagues at the university. For instance, on campus, you know the extent of the rift when a Black Studies Department chair was able to pass a "They-can-apply-but-No-" African-born-black"-must- ever-be-allowed-to- chair-the-Black-Studies-Department" edict with the full backing of Omaha's African American community. The hiring practice has remained in force for the past 20 of my 25 years at the university, where African American students express disdain openly for their "African born Black" counterparts (and vice versa) and admitted as much during a race and racism forum just last year! How to get the dialogue going is most challenging because it is almost always bogged down by the name-calling, blaming rhetoric.
For starters, we all in this forum need to grow some very thick skin and mothball easily bruised egos, I think part of the reason why the discussion of the Chidi tribute went sour from the very beginning is because it got mired in far too many "layers," with each response adding yet another layer of burning issues: the lack of recognition and gratitude for freedom bought and paid for; Blacks acting too White; Africans forgetting who and what they are; out-White[ing] man the White man: the condescending ... African mind; etc.
I would like to ask La Vonda to step back for a moment and reflect on which of her many past posts garnered this kind of reaction, even when sometimes the context and her argument weren't terribly clear ( e.g. the piece I remember was about skin bleaching and wife abuse). So, why is this present argument causing such grief? Two things that would help us get out of this impasse are: 1) some clarification on why the "nudge" to Chidi is a joke, since nobody else except the creator of the joke "got it," and 2) why Chidi's use of satire is not only respectful but is the highest form of compliment since La Vonda "didn't get it." This will naturally lead to a discussion about the nature and subtleties of African American humor. Similarly, a brief discussion that situates in Yoruba oral tradition Chidi's choice and use of satire as his mode of giving the highest praise and what legitimizes it should be given. Also, a comparative discussion of the role and uses of satire in both African American and African cultures is critical to the argument here. In all this, Chidi should not have to "explain" his art -- the role of the artist is not to explain his work. The writer has written and offered his material to his audience.
As I always tell my students, the Lord is not quite done with me yet (in growth, that is). And as such, I intend to learn from them and whatever good information they bring to shared learning. Consequently, my "olive branch" and challenge to you is this: Raise an honest critique (not a condescending lecture) under the right context and put our feet to the fire so that the choir may listen, learn and sing the right chords that help keep the bees at bay to ensure we do not "forget the warmth of the fields."
Let the healing and fruitful sharing begin.
Cheers,
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Sent via smoke signals!
Chidi
Note the bracketing of "well wishers". The crowd of celebrants that gravitates around power.
The last two lines refer to the belief (?) that ministerial nominees bribe their way to Senate approval with money filled in bags like the kind used by Ghanaians when they were expelled from Nigeria.The bags are big, rough and ready. The picture suggests an uncompromisingly rapacious and vulgar attitude to money.
Could Falola have mobilised such determined monetary resources to secure recognition in the land of his ancestry?
When I first read Chidi’s piece, I was of two minds. I wondered whether the satirical form and the disdainful anti-intellectual voice that it assumes are more an ironic reflection on the poet persona who wants recognition by every means even if it means aligning with the Boko Haram sect. (If we take this approach, it makes the piece a criticism of Nigerian banal celebrity and sycophantic culture, as most on the forum obviously take it to be.) Or, whether there is detectable in the piece, a subtle ingenious move to deliberately foreground that anti-intellectual persona as a means of shielding itself from the implicit toe-stepping criticism of the emerging celebrity culture and godfatherism in African academia. In other words, is it possible that Chidi is criticizing Nigerian anti intellectual culture as a means of, at the same time that he is, without been seen as doing so, and thus without offending the real subjects of his satire, criticizing sycophantic praise singing in African intellection?
Bode
As a man I want to take issues with your translation. Prof how can you do this to us |
Were meji oo le gbe ile kan (two mad men cannot inhabit the same space)" -- Yoruba proverb. |
Were is genderless oooo please come back here to apologize to all the men on this forum with one big keg of Palm Wine and a bag of Kola nuts...Will you Staple us or Mazi Opara us. I am waiting oooo Kole --- On Sat, 8/13/11, RKRC <ronr...@gmail.com> wrote: |
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