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Dave - Cyclists VOR
Dec 19, 2012, 3:12:43 PM12/19/12
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The idiot known as PhilO has finally worn me down.
"It is impossible for a cyclist to go over the handlebars"
Tony Raven 8.54pm. 9/12/06.
"The physics disprove the theory that a cyclist could go over the
handlebars of his bike"
Mileburner. 7.18am. 10/12/06.
"I don't need specific insurance, the policy that covers my freezer also
covers me".
Simon Weaseltemper. 10.54pm. 3/3/07.
"A cyclist cannot possibly kill a pedestrian, they lack the kinetic
energy, only motorists kill pedestrians".
Tony Raven. 7.23pm. 8/5/06.
"You can't go over the handlebars of your bike, it's just not possible".
Simon Mason. 05.13am. 4/9/06.
"I do have insurance from the CTC, but I don't really need it because
the household policy covers it - and the freezer contents.".
Simon Mason. 04.56am. 12/7/06.
Now shut up.
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Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."
"It is impossible for a cyclist to go over the handlebars"
Tony Raven 8.54pm. 9/12/06.
"The physics disprove the theory that a cyclist could go over the
handlebars of his bike"
Mileburner. 7.18am. 10/12/06.
"I don't need specific insurance, the policy that covers my freezer also
covers me".
Simon Weaseltemper. 10.54pm. 3/3/07.
"A cyclist cannot possibly kill a pedestrian, they lack the kinetic
energy, only motorists kill pedestrians".
Tony Raven. 7.23pm. 8/5/06.
"You can't go over the handlebars of your bike, it's just not possible".
Simon Mason. 05.13am. 4/9/06.
"I do have insurance from the CTC, but I don't really need it because
the household policy covers it - and the freezer contents.".
Simon Mason. 04.56am. 12/7/06.
Now shut up.
--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."
Peter Keller
Dec 20, 2012, 4:51:59 AM12/20/12
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:12:43 +0000, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
> The idiot known as PhilO has finally worn me down.
>
>
> "It is impossible for a cyclist to go over the handlebars"
> Tony Raven 8.54pm. 9/12/06.
>
> "The physics disprove the theory that a cyclist could go over the
> handlebars of his bike"
> Mileburner. 7.18am. 10/12/06.
>
> "I don't need specific insurance, the policy that covers my freezer also
> covers me".
> Simon Weaseltemper. 10.54pm. 3/3/07.
>
> "A cyclist cannot possibly kill a pedestrian, they lack the kinetic
> energy, only motorists kill pedestrians".
> Tony Raven. 7.23pm. 8/5/06.
>
> "You can't go over the handlebars of your bike, it's just not possible".
> Simon Mason. 05.13am. 4/9/06.
>
> "I do have insurance from the CTC, but I don't really need it because
> the household policy covers it - and the freezer contents.".
> Simon Mason. 04.56am. 12/7/06.
>
> Now shut up.
He is allowed to express his opinion. The same way that you are.
> The idiot known as PhilO has finally worn me down.
>
>
> "It is impossible for a cyclist to go over the handlebars"
> Tony Raven 8.54pm. 9/12/06.
>
> "The physics disprove the theory that a cyclist could go over the
> handlebars of his bike"
> Mileburner. 7.18am. 10/12/06.
>
> "I don't need specific insurance, the policy that covers my freezer also
> covers me".
> Simon Weaseltemper. 10.54pm. 3/3/07.
>
> "A cyclist cannot possibly kill a pedestrian, they lack the kinetic
> energy, only motorists kill pedestrians".
> Tony Raven. 7.23pm. 8/5/06.
>
> "You can't go over the handlebars of your bike, it's just not possible".
> Simon Mason. 05.13am. 4/9/06.
>
> "I do have insurance from the CTC, but I don't really need it because
> the household policy covers it - and the freezer contents.".
> Simon Mason. 04.56am. 12/7/06.
>
> Now shut up.
--
Life is a venereal disease with 100% mortality.
Partac
Dec 20, 2012, 5:32:23 AM12/20/12
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"Peter Keller" wrote in message news:kaun3v$qv3$1...@dont-email.me...
opinion is wrong.
Mentalguy2k8
Dec 20, 2012, 8:44:19 AM12/20/12
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"Peter Keller" <muzh...@centrum.sk> wrote in message
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opinion.
nik.morgan
Dec 20, 2012, 11:07:59 AM12/20/12
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ennemm
Mentalguy2k8
Dec 20, 2012, 11:47:05 AM12/20/12
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nik.morgan
Dec 20, 2012, 4:05:54 PM12/20/12
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ennemm
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Peter Keller
Dec 21, 2012, 4:57:01 AM12/21/12
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It has nothing to do with who is wrong.
Peter Keller
Dec 21, 2012, 4:57:42 AM12/21/12
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Peter Keller
Dec 21, 2012, 4:58:21 AM12/21/12
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:23:58 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:
> nik.morgan wrote:
>
>>"Mentalguy2k8" <Mental...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "nik.morgan" <ig....@me.com> wrote in message
>>> news:926366604377712295.215078ig.tuck-me.com@news-
> Still trying to help:
>
> http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-fact-and-
opinion.htm#did-you-know
An opinion may or may not be a fact.
> nik.morgan wrote:
>
>>"Mentalguy2k8" <Mental...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "nik.morgan" <ig....@me.com> wrote in message
>
> http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-fact-and-
opinion.htm#did-you-know
An opinion may or may not be a fact.
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Stanley Daniel de Liver
Dec 21, 2012, 6:10:16 AM12/21/12
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 -0000, Luke Moore
<anti-spa...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> [snip]
I shall be going out shortly. for a bike ride to celebrate the new baktun
(sp?)
No virgins were harmed in the making of this post.
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<anti-spa...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
>> An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>
> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?
>> An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>
I shall be going out shortly. for a bike ride to celebrate the new baktun
(sp?)
No virgins were harmed in the making of this post.
--
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Money/Life question
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Squashme
Dec 21, 2012, 7:57:08 AM12/21/12
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On Dec 21, 12:35 pm, Luke Moore <anti-spam-addr...@mailinator.com>
wrote:
> the pyramids in Yucatan peninsula, the heartland of the Maya.
>
The Mayans' world ended centuries ago, didn't it? If they couldn't
foresee that, what good are they?
wrote:
> Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 -0000, Luke Moore
> ><anti-spam-addr...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> >> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> >> [snip]
>
> >>> An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>
> >> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?
>
> >I shall be going out shortly. for a bike ride to celebrate the new baktun
> >(sp?)
>
> There are some who won't truly feel safe until the sun sets today over
>
> >On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 -0000, Luke Moore
> ><anti-spam-addr...@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
> >> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> >> [snip]
>
> >>> An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>
> >> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?
>
> >I shall be going out shortly. for a bike ride to celebrate the new baktun
> >(sp?)
>
> the pyramids in Yucatan peninsula, the heartland of the Maya.
>
The Mayans' world ended centuries ago, didn't it? If they couldn't
foresee that, what good are they?
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Partac
Dec 21, 2012, 11:16:47 AM12/21/12
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"Peter Keller" wrote in message news:kb1bpd$gon$1...@dont-email.me...
has a choice,
either:
a) Stop repeating his incorrect opinion at every opportunity, and instead
take in Dave's posting to help him arrive at a correct opinion. (Yes, I know
that's extremely unlikely - after all, he is a psycholist)
If you continually repeat incorrect statements, then other people might
begin to believe them - you know how gullible psycholists are.
b) Shut up (Yes, I know that's unlikely too, for the same reason as above)
Mentalguy2k8
Dec 22, 2012, 8:53:09 AM12/22/12
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>> Still trying to help:
>>
>> http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-fact-and-
> opinion.htm#did-you-know
>
> An opinion may or may not be a fact.
No, it's a fact until a cyclist is proved wrong, then it conveniently
becomes an opinion.
>> Still trying to help:
>>
>> http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-fact-and-
> opinion.htm#did-you-know
>
> An opinion may or may not be a fact.
becomes an opinion.
Mentalguy2k8
Dec 22, 2012, 9:08:23 AM12/22/12
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No, it was a categorical statement of something the poster believes (or
pretends) to be fact, which he posted to "disprove" someone else's claim.
Not the same thing. It wasn't an argument about two people believing
different things, it was person A saying that something happened, person B
saying that it didn't.
An opinion may be *formed* by the poster's belief (or malicious pretence)
that "nobody has ever posted that", but stating "that never happened" in
response to someone posting "it happened" is not stating an opinion.
pretends) to be fact, which he posted to "disprove" someone else's claim.
Not the same thing. It wasn't an argument about two people believing
different things, it was person A saying that something happened, person B
saying that it didn't.
An opinion may be *formed* by the poster's belief (or malicious pretence)
that "nobody has ever posted that", but stating "that never happened" in
response to someone posting "it happened" is not stating an opinion.
nik.morgan
Dec 22, 2012, 11:48:40 AM12/22/12
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as an irrefutable fact then it will remain an opinion.
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ennemm
Mentalguy2k8
Dec 22, 2012, 12:27:11 PM12/22/12
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OK, have it your way, it's your funeral.
Peter Keller
Dec 24, 2012, 9:08:04 AM12/24/12
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:47:05 +0000, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Peter Keller
Dec 24, 2012, 9:08:53 AM12/24/12
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:
> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
> Peter Keller wrote:
>
> [snip]
>>
>>An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>
>
> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?
Yes.
Peter Keller
Dec 24, 2012, 9:10:11 AM12/24/12
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Peter Keller
Dec 25, 2012, 4:29:59 AM12/25/12
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:24:46 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:
> Peter Keller wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Keller wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>>>
>>> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?
>>
>>Yes.
>
> I see what you did there!
> Peter Keller wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:29:07 +0000, Luke Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Keller wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>An opinion may or may not be a fact.
>>>
>>> Are you stating that as an opinion or a fact?
>>
>>Yes.
>
>
> As I like to be certain about things, I asked over in
> alt.culture.language. english whether an opinion may or not be a fact.
> This, in my opinion, was the best answer:
>
> "I think the answer is yes: an opinion may or may not be a fact, while
> its factualness/truth is not yet known or established. If its objective
> truthfulness, or not, has been established, it ceases to be an opinion
> and becomes a fact or a falsehood, respectively."
>
> So it may be more correct to assert that an opinion may not be a fact or
> it may be an unconfirmed fact. As in the instant an opinion becomes a
> confirmed fact, it ceases to be an opinion and, of course, becomes a
> fact. What do you think?
That is all good. However I take the view that an opinion is what one
believes. This, of course, may or may not be a fact.
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