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[GB]

Don't you guys talk about cycling at all? It's all only about cyclists.

[RJH]

On 21/02/2019 18:58, GB wrote:
> Don't you guys talk about cycling at all?  It's all only about cyclists.

Not much about cycling - group seems to be the rested home of
pathological cyclist and motorist haters.

That said, I have posted a couple of maintenance and repair issues over
the years and received some excellent advice.

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Cheers, Rob

[Simon Jester]

No, most of us are both cyclists and motorists. There are a few sad lonely losers who take their anger at being sad lonely losers out on cyclists (with chisels). We laugh at them.

Ask a sensible cycling question and you will get a sensible answer.

Panaracer Pasela is the best tyre.
SON Deluxe is the only way to go re: lighting.
I ride a Dawes Karakum.

[RJH]

On 22/02/2019 00:28, Simon Jester wrote:
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:01:54 PM UTC, RJH wrote:
>> On 21/02/2019 18:58, GB wrote:
>>> Don't you guys talk about cycling at all?  It's all only about cyclists.
>>
>> Not much about cycling - group seems to be the rested home of
>> pathological cyclist and motorist haters.
>>
>> That said, I have posted a couple of maintenance and repair issues over
>> the years and received some excellent advice.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers, Rob
>
> No, most of us are both cyclists and motorists. There are a few sad lonely losers who take their anger at being sad lonely losers out on cyclists (with chisels). We laugh at them.
>

The regular posters seem to be laughing at each other, around a not
especially funny joke.

> Ask a sensible cycling question and you will get a sensible answer.
>

Yes, that's what I said.

> Panaracer Pasela is the best tyre.

OK, looks good. I recently replaced some 700C tyres with Schwalbe City
Jets - only £8 each, remarkably low rolling resistance, very light but
little to go on for decent braking, and one possibly avoidable puncture
in 6 months.

> SON Deluxe is the only way to go re: lighting.

Mmmmm. Weight would be an issue for me there.

> I ride a Dawes Karakum.

But not for you :-)

(nice bike otherwise tho!)

Picking up my own anchor tomorrow - old HT mountain bike to replace one
that was stolen.


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Cheers, Rob

[swldx...@gmail.com]

Schwalbe Durano Plus are the best tyres.
Exposure lights are the best.
I ride a Scott CR1.

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Wilko standard
Lidl rechargeable LEDs
Tesco Best.

You don't have to spend big money to have a bicycle.




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Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

[RJH]

Nice. Properly aimed I trust :-)

It's a constant source of irritation - bright bike lights in my face as
I overtake.

> I ride a Scott CR1.
>

Looks good - I've an old Specialised Sirrus, a kind of mid-range nippy
road-commute bike, <10kg, does the job.

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Cheers, Rob

[swldx...@gmail.com]

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 11:01:33 AM UTC, RJH wrote:
> On 22/02/2019 09:28, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice. Properly aimed I trust :-)

Of course - here it is.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0AZy03XQAApzS-.jpg

>
> It's a constant source of irritation - bright bike lights in my face as
> I overtake.
>
> > I ride a Scott CR1.
> >
>
> Looks good - I've an old Specialised Sirrus, a kind of mid-range nippy
> road-commute bike, <10kg, does the job.

Nice bike - mine is here.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0AZ3SEXQAAqjAJ.jpg

[Simon Jester]

With hub dynamo the lights are simply there when you need them. No batteries to change/recharge. Firmly fixed to the bike with Torqueseal. Standlights stay on when stopped.

[TMS320]

On 22/02/2019 08:27, RJH wrote:
> On 22/02/2019 00:28, Simon Jester wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:01:54 PM UTC, RJH wrote:
>>> On 21/02/2019 18:58, GB wrote:
>>>> Don't you guys talk about cycling at all?  It's all only about
>>>> cyclists.
>>>
>>> Not much about cycling - group seems to be the rested home of
>>> pathological cyclist and motorist haters.
>>>
>>> That said, I have posted a couple of maintenance and repair issues over
>>> the years and received some excellent advice.

When certain people moved in to talk about cyclists, it was difficult
for them to continue talking about cycling.

>>> --
>>> Cheers, Rob
>>
>> No, most of us are both cyclists and motorists. There are a few sad
>> lonely losers who take their anger at being sad lonely losers out on
>> cyclists (with chisels). We laugh at them.
>
> The regular posters seem to be laughing at each other, around a not
> especially funny joke.

The non-cyclists here fail to notice the motes in their own eyes.

[Simon Jester]

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 9:28:07 AM UTC, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

> > Ask a sensible cycling question and you will get a sensible answer.
> >
> > Panaracer Pasela is the best tyre.
> > SON Deluxe is the only way to go re: lighting.
> > I ride a Dawes Karakum.
>
> Schwalbe Durano Plus are the best tyres.

Perhaps, but I will stick to what works for me.
I tried Panaracer Ribimo and found that after a while I got a lot of small punctures.
The irritating sort that means you have a flat tyre in the morning but cannot be detected with the bowl of water test and no obvious cause.

[Simon Jester]

It is good for utility transport, but I get the impression Dawes spent all the money on the frame and threw on whatever components were lying around the factory floor.

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

GB wrote:
> Don't you guys talk about cycling at all? It's all only about
> cyclists.

This group is for taking the slash out of cycling and cyclists - it is fun
and so easy to do. I do enjoy taking the piss out of this low life.
There is a moderated cycling group, but the cycling wankers that use this
group don't go there as they are too stupid.

[Simon Jester]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut7qd-KmHqM

[Ian Smith]

For commuting / utility use I'd say Schwalbe Marathon Plus are better
- being bullet-proof is worth a lot when you're cycling to work in the
dark in the rain.

Something hub-dynamo-powered is better for lights - I just don't need
to think about lights - they are on the bike, and switch themselves on
when required. I don't have a SON though, just Shimano hub and B&M
lights.

regards, Ian SMith
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[swldx...@gmail.com]

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 10:31:31 PM UTC, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:28:05 -0800 (PST), swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 12:28:13 AM UTC, Simon Jester wrote:
> > >
> > > Panaracer Pasela is the best tyre.
> > > SON Deluxe is the only way to go re: lighting.
> > > I ride a Dawes Karakum.
> >
> > Schwalbe Durano Plus are the best tyres.
> > Exposure lights are the best.
> > I ride a Scott CR1.
>
> For commuting / utility use I'd say Schwalbe Marathon Plus are better
> - being bullet-proof is worth a lot when you're cycling to work in the
> dark in the rain.
>

SMP are the best for hybrids, Durano for road bikes,

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

I think this nicely sums up how sad and hateful this individual has
become. Can we get Social Services around?

[RJH]

On 21/02/2019 18:58, GB wrote:

> Don't you guys talk about cycling at all?  It's all only about cyclists.

Anyone fancy having a stab at a charter?!

https://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.cycling.html

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Cheers, Rob

[Simon Jester]

On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 10:31:31 PM UTC, Ian Smith wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 01:28:05 -0800 (PST), swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 12:28:13 AM UTC, Simon Jester wrote:
> > >
> > > Panaracer Pasela is the best tyre.
> > > SON Deluxe is the only way to go re: lighting.
> > > I ride a Dawes Karakum.
> >
> > Schwalbe Durano Plus are the best tyres.
> > Exposure lights are the best.
> > I ride a Scott CR1.
>
> For commuting / utility use I'd say Schwalbe Marathon Plus are better
> - being bullet-proof is worth a lot when you're cycling to work in the
> dark in the rain.

I tried Marathon + once, they were so heavy with high rolling resistance, no grip and difficult to fit.

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

URC is a forum for sad old men to moan about how cyclists don't pay road
tax, and never stop at red lights.


'bout right?

[Simon Jester]

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 10:35:27 AM UTC, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

>
> URC is a forum for sad old men to moan about how cyclists don't pay road
> tax, and never stop at red lights.
>
>
> 'bout right?
>

So let's reclaim the group.
In The Beginning there was this group and UK.TRANSPORT with a monthly cross group flame war. But mainly we discussed cycling issues.

[RJH]

Just noticed there is a urc moderated. Low traffic but looks to be
civilised.

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Cheers, Rob

[Rob Morley]

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:28:11 -0800 (PST)
Simon Jester <sj81...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I ride a Dawes Karakum.
>

That looks remarkably similar to my utility bike, except mine has a
chromoly frame and fat (slick) 26 inch tyres.

[Rob Morley]

Schwalbe Big Apple RaceGuard.

> Lidl rechargeable LEDs

Something cheap using AAA cells from Planet X

> Tesco Best.

£50 on eBay

>
> You don't have to spend big money to have a bicycle.
>

That's why some people associate cycling with people who can't afford a
car (or get a driving license) - they don't understand that sometimes
bikes are more appropriate or just more fun. Quite likely they never
had a half-decent bike or a clue how to ride it as a kid, or friends
to go off with on adventures. However I would occasionally bump into
some kids who used to be mad keen on bikes of all sorts, and come into
the shop often to drool over the latest gizmos - a few years later they
were into cars in just the same way, and totally uninterested in bikes.
Some of us are fortunate to still enjoy bikes despite having been
motorists for decades. :-)

[Rob Morley]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 12:49:26 +0000
RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:

> Just noticed

Really?

[Simon Jester]

I have never used slick tyres, which is illogical because tyre tread is used to displace water and prevent aquaplaning. On a bicycle you would have to be travelling about 250mph to aquaplane.

[TMS320]

On 24/02/2019 21:37, Simon Jester wrote:

> I have never used slick tyres, which is illogical because tyre tread
> is used to displace water and prevent aquaplaning. On a bicycle you
> would have to be travelling about 250mph to aquaplane.

I guess it gives a thicker layer of rubber without adding weight. (I
have never done an assessment of whether there is a difference in
tendency to puncture.)

Some people have the idea that tread helps with grip and the
manufacturers use it as branding.

[Rob Morley]

On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 13:37:22 -0800 (PST)

Simon Jester <sj81...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 7:37:17 PM UTC, Rob Morley wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 16:28:11 -0800 (PST)
> > Simon Jester <sj81...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >

> [...]

> > That looks remarkably similar to my utility bike, except mine has a
> > chromoly frame and fat (slick) 26 inch tyres.
>
> I have never used slick tyres, which is illogical because tyre tread
> is used to displace water and prevent aquaplaning. On a bicycle you
> would have to be travelling about 250mph to aquaplane.
>

The Big Apple isn't a true slick, but it has large smooth areas in
between the grooves, and no lumpy bits. My 60mm Big Apples are
noticeably inadequate riding up a wet grassy slope, or cornering hard
on gravel, but they roll very nicely on a smooth road and laugh at
potholes on a less smooth road.
I used to ride 19mm slicks on my time trial bike and they also worked
well - not as pothole-proof obviously, but they zipped along in a
pleasing manner and never had any grip issues.

[Rob Morley]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 08:30:49 +0000
TMS320 <dr6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 24/02/2019 21:37, Simon Jester wrote:
>
> > I have never used slick tyres, which is illogical because tyre tread
> > is used to displace water and prevent aquaplaning. On a bicycle you
> > would have to be travelling about 250mph to aquaplane.

> I guess it gives a thicker layer of rubber without adding weight. (I
> have never done an assessment of whether there is a difference in
> tendency to puncture.)

Eh?

>
> Some people have the idea that tread helps with grip and the
> manufacturers use it as branding.

Off-road tread most definitely does help with grip, on-road not so
much, although with roads being so variable there are some conditions
where it will probably help. I wonder if tread doesn't make punctures
more likely by giving sharp or pointy things a corner to initially lodge
in before they work their way through the tyre.

[TMS320]

On 25/02/2019 17:06, Rob Morley wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 08:30:49 +0000
> TMS320 <dr6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 24/02/2019 21:37, Simon Jester wrote:
>>
>>> I have never used slick tyres, which is illogical because tyre tread
>>> is used to displace water and prevent aquaplaning. On a bicycle you
>>> would have to be travelling about 250mph to aquaplane.
>
>> I guess it gives a thicker layer of rubber without adding weight. (I
>> have never done an assessment of whether there is a difference in
>> tendency to puncture.)
>
> Eh?

If you put a certain weight of rubber over the tyre, a treadless layer
must provide a thinner layer between road and cords than a block tread.

>> Some people have the idea that tread helps with grip and the
>> manufacturers use it as branding.
>
> Off-road tread most definitely does help with grip, on-road not so
> much, although with roads being so variable there are some conditions
> where it will probably help.

It is possible that a significant tread can find tarmac more easily
through a thin leaf layer than a smooth tyre. On a stable surface I
doubt tread gives any benefit.

> I wonder if tread doesn't make punctures
> more likely by giving sharp or pointy things a corner to initially lodge
> in before they work their way through the tyre.

As I suggested above.

[RJH]

On 24/02/2019 20:12, Rob Morley wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 12:49:26 +0000
> RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> Just noticed
>
> Really?
>

Yep, but then, only just looked :-)


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Cheers, Rob

[Rob Morley]

I thought it was mentioned here fairly often.

[RJH]

Can't say I'd noticed - but I'm not the most attentive of lurkers, and
the S/N ratio here is pretty poor.

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Cheers, Rob

[Rob Morley]

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:13:29 +0000
RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:

> Can't say I'd noticed - but I'm not the most attentive of lurkers,
> and the S/N ratio here is pretty poor.
>

SNR is fine once you add a few filters.

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

On 2/21/2019 4:28 PM, Simon Jester wrote:

> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 8:01:54 PM UTC, RJH wrote:
>> On 21/02/2019 18:58, GB wrote:
>>> Don't you guys talk about cycling at all?  It's all only about cyclists.
>>

>> Not much about cycling - group seems to be the rested home of
>> pathological cyclist and motorist haters.
>>
>> That said, I have posted a couple of maintenance and repair issues over
>> the years and received some excellent advice.
>>

>> --
>> Cheers, Rob
>
> No, most of us are both cyclists and motorists. There are a few sad lonely losers who take their anger at being sad lonely losers out on cyclists (with chisels). We laugh at them.
>

> Ask a sensible cycling question and you will get a sensible answer.
>

> Panaracer Pasela is the best tyre.
> SON Deluxe is the only way to go re: lighting.

> I ride a Dawes Karakum.
>
>
>

Simon uses Mister Pounder's cock as a snorkel.
How about that?