Bradlery Wiggins & Drugs

[Judith]

I see from the BBC:

Wiggins, an asthma and allergy sufferer, was given permission to inject the
banned drug triamcinolone, a powerful corticosteroid, just days before three
major races, including the 2012 Tour de France, which he won, becoming the
first Briton to do so.

He also received similar permission to use 40mg of the drug before the 2011
Tour and the 2013 Tour of Italy.

But questions have been raised over why Wiggins apparently did not need the
drug before 2011, or after 2013.

In 2009, Sir Bradley's only TUEs were for standard asthma inhalers.

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I think it is very obvious why he took the drugs when he did - he probably had
a head ache.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37456623

[Alycidon]

On Saturday, 24 September 2016 12:03:31 UTC+1, Judith wrote:
> I see from the BBC:

Who is "Bradlery" ?
Is he this bloke on our local A road?

http://www.chrismaher.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CityRoadClubHullOpenV718-10TT_1057B.jpg

[Judith]

Sorry about the spelling mistake - I hope it did not confuse you.

I see that he had previously said : "In British cycling culture, at the word
‘needle’ - or the sight of one - you go: ‘Oh shit.’ It’s a complete taboo."

Mmmmmm...

I loved the quote from Dr Prentice Steffen, the doctor at Garmin Slipstream
when Wiggins finished fourth in the 2009 Tour de France

"You do have to think it is kind of coincidental that a big dose of
intramuscular long-acting corticosteroids would be needed at that exact time
before the most important race of the season. I would say certainly now in
retrospect it doesn’t look good, it doesn’t look right from a health or
sporting perspective."

Large coincidence indeed.

I seem to recall he had once said that he had *never* used needles for
injections.

He obviously has a poor memory as well as severe medical problems.

It is all most odd: I have been told you can always trust a cyclist to tell the
truth.

Anyway - enough of Bradley - I see that your home-made Google kill-file
program is not working yet again.

I assume that it has just broken for at least the second time, and you've not
been reading Mr Nugent's and my every post all along.

[Alycidon]

On Sunday, 25 September 2016 11:08:42 UTC+1, Judith wrote:

>
> Anyway - enough of Bradley - I see that your home-made Google kill-file
> program is not working yet again.

I have no need of a killfile anymore, but I just ignore Numpty and Cheerless anyways.

[Nick]

On 25/09/2016 11:08, Judith wrote:

>
> It is all most odd: I have been told you can always trust a cyclist to tell the
> truth.
>

Well I can't speak for all other cyclists but I can certainly confirm
that I always tell the truth, honest I do.

We know many athletes game the system with respect to drugs, why
wouldn't they?

[Jude]

From Judith <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk>:

>I loved the quote from Dr Prentice Steffen, the doctor at Garmin Slipstream
>when Wiggins finished fourth in the 2009 Tour de France
>
>"You do have to think it is kind of coincidental that a big dose of
>intramuscular long-acting corticosteroids would be needed at that exact time
>before the most important race of the season. I would say certainly now in
>retrospect it doesn’t look good, it doesn’t look right from a health or
>sporting perspective."
>
>Large coincidence indeed.

If a cyclist suffers from allergies with respiratory issues wouldn't you
expect that to be a consideration before the most important race of the
season? That is when such a cyclist would want their problem health issues to
be dealt with. I don't see that as a large coincidence at all.

Sir Bradley Wiggins sought and obtained the correct permission from the
sport's governing body to take an anti-inflammatory drug for allergies and
respiratory problems. It's all documented and above board: he has been cycling
entirely within the rules.

Taking such medication is allowed within the rules of the sport, so why should
there be anything wrong with him taking advantage of that fact?

[Judith]

Could you tell us in what language you wrote your kill-file for Google Groups -
and what were the basics of it?

You did write one - didn't you?

[Judith]

And there we have it : "taking advantage of that fact"

[Alycidon]

http://bit.ly/2cTh3RE

[Jude]

From Judith <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk>:

It clearly is an advantage, just as having health issues such as allergies and
breathing problems is a disadvantage. That is why, presumable, the rules of a
sport allow for treatment of a health disadvantage, and there is no good
reason not to take advantage of that fact.

Sharapova claimed to have health issues and took treatment for that without
clearing it with her sports governing body. That was correctly deemed to be
cheating. Bradley Wiggins' health issues were confirmed by doctors, he sought
and obtained the correct permission from his sport's governing body for the
treatment he received. It is pretty straightforward to differentiate between
these two case.

[Nick]

On 25/09/2016 12:56, Jude wrote:
to take advantage of that fact.
>
> Sharapova claimed to have health issues and took treatment for that without
> clearing it with her sports governing body.

The interesting thing with Sharapova was that she had been taking the
same drug for 10 years. It only became cheating because the rules
changed. It does seem likely that her offence was one of lack of
diligence rather than a deliberate attempt to break the rules.

[Jude]

From Nick <Nick...@Yahoo.co.uk>:

I didn't know that. She must have been hoppin' mad over what happened there,
somebody on her team could well have lost their job. These sports superstars
employ people to look after that kind of thing for them: it should never have
happened that way.

[Nick]

It sounds as if she had stopped taking advice.

<http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/maria-sharapova-two-year-drug-ban-meldonium-story-doesnt-add-up-a7071881.html>

[Jude]

What an interesting read that was. It's almost unbelievable that the world's
highest-earning sportswoman for so long could behave in such an unprofessional
manner. Now I don't see how she can be anything other than the "sole author of
her own misfortune", and there is little sympathy for self-inflicted wounds.

[Judith]

I was talking about the one which *you* wrote. You remember:

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From: si...@simonmason.karoo.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling
Subject: Re: Captain Killfile caught again!
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 01:21:29 -0800 (PST)

On Feb 8, 12:18 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
<usenet...@chapmancentral.co.uk> wrote:
> Bzzzt! Wrong. Agent has three types of kill rule: delete, mark read
> and ignore thread. In all three cases it is trivially possible to get
> to the killed post by viewing the headers and clicking the
> message-ids.
>

I don't bother with Agent
I wrote my own killfile program and it seems to work OK.

--
Simon Mason

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What language did you say it was written in?

[Alycidon]

On Sunday, 25 September 2016 17:02:23 UTC+1, Judith wrote:

> >
> >http://bit.ly/2cTh3RE
>
>
> I was talking about the one which *you* wrote. You remember:

QUOTE:
"One of the ongoing complaints about google groups is that it doesn't
provide a killfile capability. "Damian" has written a script that
(while still a bit buggy) is a start in that direction."

I adapted it from his "buggy" version.

[Judith]

Yes of course you did.

Could you perhaps share *your* code so that others could use it.

I am very surprised that you never shared the source of the program which *you*
wrote previously - after-all it has been discussed many times.

Have you only just found that article perhaps?

[Alycidon]

I've been on USENET since 1989, so I've seen it all.

[Judith]

Of course.

Why did you *never* mention that page before after you first claimed to have
written you own program - and why are you not willing to share *your* program
with us here. After all - you are not shy of sharing other things about
yourself.

This does seem most odd. It's not a Porky is it?

I suspect many people may think that it is.

[Alycidon]

On Monday, 26 September 2016 18:21:19 UTC+1, Judith wrote:

>
> This does seem most odd. It's not a Porky is it?

Say hello to my little friend.

https://twitter.com/swldxer/status/771241047133335554