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Joe Hunter

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May 16, 2011, 5:29:15 AM5/16/11
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More recent photos of the RSGB hut.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55365790@N08/


Ian Jackson

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May 16, 2011, 6:05:30 AM5/16/11
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In message <iqqqpb$pqa$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Joe Hunter
<Joe....@yahoo.com> writes

>More recent photos of the RSGB hut.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/55365790@N08/
>
Very nice - and so conveniently placed between a poplar and cypress!
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M0WYM

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May 16, 2011, 6:05:37 AM5/16/11
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Joe Hunter wrote:

> More recent photos of the RSGB hut.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55365790@N08/

Thanks Joe, it's looking good.


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A. non Eyemouse

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May 16, 2011, 6:13:21 AM5/16/11
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On 16/05/2011 11:05, M0WYM wrote:
> Joe Hunter wrote:
>
>> More recent photos of the RSGB hut.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55365790@N08/
>
> Thanks Joe, it's looking good.
>

More recent than the previous thread but still 8 months old.

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Brian Morrison

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May 16, 2011, 6:19:08 AM5/16/11
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On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:13:21 +0100
"A. non Eyemouse" <somewhere@work> wrote:

> On 16/05/2011 11:05, M0WYM wrote:
> > Joe Hunter wrote:
> >
> >> More recent photos of the RSGB hut.
> >>
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55365790@N08/
> >
> > Thanks Joe, it's looking good.
> >
>
> More recent than the previous thread but still 8 months old.
>

So is the budget available to get a working station on the air? Or is
the building going to sit there empty and forlorn?

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m0r0n

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May 16, 2011, 11:35:50 AM5/16/11
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I can remember when the RSGB was a highly respected society with a
prestigious West End address. Its officers had an excellent
relationship with the regulator. Doughty Street was a bit ranshackle
inside but it was run by dedicated professional staff in the best
interests of the hobby.

I wonder what those people would think now of this ineffective,
scandal-ridden clique based in an old shed.

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Brian Morrison

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May 16, 2011, 1:28:38 PM5/16/11
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On Mon, 16 May 2011 18:19:58 +0100
lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:

> On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:19:08 +0100, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >So is the budget available to get a working station on the air? Or is
> >the building going to sit there empty and forlorn?
>

> Surely I'm not the only one who feels there is a certain lack of
> permanence about the NARC.

Well, when BP's huts came into being in the late 1930s, I suppose no
one thought that they would still be there 80 plus years later.

>
> To me (and this is not meant as a dig at the RSGB), the place looks
> like the project managers office on a building site... Here today,
> gone tomorrow - or at least when they move on to the next build.

I wonder if it was easier to get planning consent by making it a
"temporary" structure?

>
> Recently I visited the ARRL HQ in Hartford, Connecticut. I know they
> have six times the membership of the RSGB and consequently more
> income, but from when you arrive the place has that established
> feeling about it, as if it and the ARRL was there now and would still
> be there in forty years time.
>
> They get a lot of visitors, including very many Japanese tourists and
> have organised tours of the main building and the adjacent W1AW
> station two or three times a day.

I'm sure RSGB would like to be in a similar situation, but it's not
likely to happen now.

>
> If you're going to call someplace the National Amateur Radio Centre.
> It does surely make sense to have it located on the same site as the
> national society's head office, rather than twenty miles down the
> road.
>

Not enough room at Abbey Court, not enough parking for one thing. And
possibly not the ideal site for a large HF/VHFf station, deep in a river
valley surrounded by high ground on all sides.

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Billy Gamble

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May 16, 2011, 1:57:31 PM5/16/11
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>> If you're going to call someplace the National Amateur Radio Centre.
>> It does surely make sense to have it located on the same site as the
>> national society's head office, rather than twenty miles down the
>> road.
>>
>
> Not enough room at Abbey Court, not enough parking for one thing. And
> possibly not the ideal site for a large HF/VHFf station, deep in a river
> valley surrounded by high ground on all sides.
>
> --
>
> Brian Morrison
>

So who had the bright idea of moving there then?

Ian Jackson

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May 16, 2011, 2:51:20 PM5/16/11
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Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk> writes
>

>
>Not enough room at Abbey Court, not enough parking for one thing. And
>possibly not the ideal site for a large HF/VHFf station, deep in a river
>valley surrounded by high ground on all sides.
>

Not exactly the ideal site for an active, dynamic radio society, then?
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Max

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May 17, 2011, 2:16:11 AM5/17/11
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I understand it will be managed by one of the relatives of the late
General Manager.

He will become the welcoming face of the RSGB.

So instead of losing 600 members in 12 months
it could be 6,000

The hut reflects the present standing of the Society

You wonder what the Patron HRH will make of it when he visits to open
it.

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gareth

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May 17, 2011, 3:23:59 AM5/17/11
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"Brian Morrison" <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Not enough room at Abbey Court, not enough parking for one thing. And
> possibly not the ideal site for a large HF/VHFf station, deep in a river
> valley surrounded by high ground on all sides.

Nevertheless, it is still somewhere not to be sniffed at :-)


Dave M

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May 17, 2011, 4:15:39 AM5/17/11
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Is that Carlos Eavis RSGB Project Manger
He used to run GB4FUN before it was laid up
What a waste of money that was


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Brian Morrison

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May 17, 2011, 5:37:32 AM5/17/11
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After hearing that PK lives in Bedford, I'm beginning to wonder about
the chicken/egg aspect of selecting the location for the admin
department.

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Brian Morrison

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May 17, 2011, 5:38:39 AM5/17/11
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 08:15:39 +0000 (UTC)
Dave M <rous...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> He used to run GB4FUN before it was laid up

Laid up? When did that happen? And why?

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Catweazel

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May 17, 2011, 6:15:48 AM5/17/11
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On May 16, 7:51 pm, Ian Jackson
<ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <20110516182838.00001...@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>, Brian

you might like to think that, however MKDARS may have a different
view 8-)

Catweazel

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May 17, 2011, 6:17:46 AM5/17/11
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On May 16, 4:35 pm, m0r0n <m0...@brain.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 May 2011 09:29:15 +0000 (UTC), Joe Hunter
>
> <Joe.Hu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >More recent photos of the RSGB hut.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/55365790@N08/
>
> I can remember when the RSGB was a highly respected society with a
> prestigious West End address. Its officers had an excellent
> relationship with the regulator. Doughty Street was a bit ranshackle
> inside but it was run by dedicated professional staff in the best
> interests of the hobby.
>
> I wonder what those people would think now of this ineffective,
> scandal-ridden clique based in an old shed.

looks like a brand new shed to me, and in keeping with the BP site
buildings
(or it would be if it were made to look 'distressed'). 8-)

Yobbarayson

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May 17, 2011, 6:23:41 AM5/17/11
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Reminds me of huts in a Stalag Luft POW camp - raised off the ground so the
"ferrets" can see any signs of anyone tunneling out!


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Brian Morrison

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May 17, 2011, 6:33:51 AM5/17/11
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 11:01:16 +0100
lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:

> Which reminds me... The San Andreas Fault... Now how does that work.
> ;-)

Oh no, just don't go poking it from underneath you hear!

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Brian Morrison

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May 17, 2011, 7:11:45 AM5/17/11
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 11:46:16 +0100
Chronos <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> Look on the bright side, Brian. There's a 30-40% chance of
> liquefaction of Cupertino if the San Andreas has a quake of M7.8 or
> above :o)

Is it likely that affects non-material malignant entities?

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A. non Eyemouse

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May 17, 2011, 7:12:32 AM5/17/11
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On 17/05/2011 12:00, lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
> As if I would... It's just that I can't find my copy of the
> User-Manual and I thought asking here might save just pushing buttons
> and pulling levers at random to work out what they do.

You're assured good internet connectivity whilst you're over there so no
excuse for not keeping in touch. You should sign up for Google TiSP -
http://www.google.com/tisp/
;)

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DieSea

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May 17, 2011, 7:50:29 AM5/17/11
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"Chronos" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message news:iqtlib$9ml$1...@dont-email.me...
> lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>
>> I think I had one of those Starbucks.
>
> You often find them at Starbucks, Nick. They're the ones with empty
> seats all around them:
>
> "I'm in the coffee shop, updating my tweets!
> Sent from my iPhone."
> --


Been there done that have you Chronos ??

Far better in a Witerspoons as Frank will tell you

Coffee is better and cheeeeper

An Tinternet is free as well

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Ian Jackson

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May 17, 2011, 8:39:18 AM5/17/11
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In message <20110517103...@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>, Brian
Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk> writes
>On Mon, 16 May 2011 19:51:20 +0100
>Ian Jackson <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> In message <20110516182...@surtees.fenrir.org.uk>, Brian
>> Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk> writes
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >Not enough room at Abbey Court, not enough parking for one thing. And
>> >possibly not the ideal site for a large HF/VHFf station, deep in a
>> >river valley surrounded by high ground on all sides.
>> >
>> Not exactly the ideal site for an active, dynamic radio society, then?
>
>After hearing that PK lives in Bedford, I'm beginning to wonder about
>the chicken/egg aspect of selecting the location for the admin
>department.
>
I have personal experience of a new works QTH where its proximity to the
home of the guy tasked with finding a new works QTH was more than purely
coincidental!
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gareth

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May 17, 2011, 10:18:05 AM5/17/11
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"Brian Morrison" <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
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Perhaps there was inadvertent perspicacity on his part, for by choosing
a QTH next to the sewage works, it augured the yet-to-be forthcoming stink!


FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI

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May 17, 2011, 10:56:20 AM5/17/11
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<lu...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 May 2011 11:33:51 +0100, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> As if I would... It's just that I can't find my copy of the
> User-Manual and I thought asking here might save just pushing buttons
> and pulling levers at random to work out what they do.
>
> Nick.
>
I see the A3 is being diverted into a tunnel under the Devil's Punch Bowl,
Sire. Will there be a slip road to your Guest House, and how many gallons of
punch are there in that bowl?
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Ian Jackson

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>On Tue, 17 May 2011 15:56:20 +0100, "FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI"
><g3...@turner-smith.co.uK> wrote:
>
>
>>I see the A3 is being diverted into a tunnel under the Devil's Punch Bowl,
>>Sire. Will there be a slip road to your Guest House, and how many gallons of
>>punch are there in that bowl?
>
>I'm glad you mentioned that, Frank.
>I've been looking for somebody to work out how many gallons the Punch
>Bowl could hold and then to prove it by filling it up and drinking the
>contents.
>
>Shall I put you down as a possible candidate?
>
What's the point of the Devil keeping his punchbowl in Surrey when his
arse is in Derbyshire?
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Brian Reay.

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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>
> What's the point of the Devil keeping his punchbowl in Surrey when his
> arse is in Derbyshire?

Why the downer on Derbyshire? It is a lovely place.

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FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI

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<lu...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 May 2011 15:56:20 +0100, "FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI"
> <g3...@turner-smith.co.uK> wrote:
>
>
>>I see the A3 is being diverted into a tunnel under the Devil's Punch Bowl,
>>Sire. Will there be a slip road to your Guest House, and how many gallons
>>of
>>punch are there in that bowl?
>
> I'm glad you mentioned that, Frank.
> I've been looking for somebody to work out how many gallons the Punch
> Bowl could hold and then to prove it by filling it up and drinking the
> contents.
>
> Shall I put you down as a possible candidate?
>
> Nick.
>
OK, thanks, I'd better get some practice in.

Richard G3CWI

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On May 17, 9:56 am, Robbo <ro...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2011 08:15:39 +0000 (UTC), Dave M <rousey...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >He used to run GB4FUN before it was laid up
>
> Laid up, is it?  Why?  I thought GB4FUN was funded by a charitable
> foundation, separate from the RSGB.

It's a scandal in my view. And one that I and others wrote to the ex-
General manager about. Not that he ever bothered to reply to anyone.

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A. non Eyemouse

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May 19, 2011, 6:27:28 PM5/19/11
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On 18/05/2011 20:49, Brian Morrison wrote:
> When did you find out about this Richard? Just wondering....
>

It was mentioned at the open forum after the AGM. I do hope they've sent
in a SORN. Given the size of the vehicle, is it classed as an LGV?

Len GM0ONX

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Its a trailer not a vehicle so no SORN required.

Steve Terry

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DieSea wrote:
> "Chronos" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:iqtlib$9ml$1...@dont-email.me...
>> lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
<snip>

> Far better in a Witerspoons as Frank will tell you
>
> Coffee is better and cheeeeper
>
> An Tinternet is free as well
>
Only for an hour a day after logging in, bloody useless "the Cloud"
wifi Co is running them now

Ofcom last year threatened pubs and restaurants not to run open wifi,
so many signed up with them.

Steve Terry
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FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI

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> It sounds the sort of place Tox, or some other peasant might go to...
> I suppose it's alright if that's all you're used to.
> The trouble is with these places adjoining Frog. If you scratch the
> surface, you soon run into whole flocks of bleedin' foreigners.
>
> Having said that. I've often thought Frog would be a wonderful country
> for holidays if they ever got round to kicking all of the frogs out.
>
> Nick.
>
I have the same feelings about Taffy Land.
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Andy Foad

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On May 20, 10:34 pm, "Steve Terry" <gfour...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
> Ofcom last year threatened pubs and restaurants not to run open wifi,
> so many signed up with them.

Eh ?

Sorry being a but dense here, but why was OFCOM getting
ratty with pubs running open wifi, and who's wifi, BT ?

(Sorry for being a bit dense, I've tried piecing this
bit of the thread together but failed) ;-)

A. non Eyemouse

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May 22, 2011, 12:32:07 PM5/22/11
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Reason being - so big brother can keep track of what you do on the
internet - accountability - http://tinyurl.com/3x9ypd5

Steve Terry

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May 22, 2011, 12:51:20 PM5/22/11
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Ofcom told them they would be liable for litigation if their users
misused their open Wifi networks.

The real reason is of course funnel lucrative contracts to Wifi
companies like "the Cloud" to provide "secure" service

Andy Foad

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May 22, 2011, 1:37:58 PM5/22/11
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Thanks Steve and Mouse.

First I'd heard about it.

Dave Wade

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> Andy Foad wrote:
>> On May 20, 10:34 pm, "Steve Terry" <gfour...@tesco.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ofcom last year threatened pubs and restaurants not to run open wifi,
>>> so many signed up with them.
>>
>> Eh ?
>> Sorry being a but dense here, but why was OFCOM getting
>> ratty with pubs running open wifi, and who's wifi, BT ?
>>
>> (Sorry for being a bit dense, I've tried piecing this
>> bit of the thread together but failed) ;-)
>>
> Ofcom told them they would be liable for litigation if their users
> misused their open Wifi networks.
>

Thats odd because when my employer asked about the requirements on an open
WiFi network OfCom said it was outside their jurisdiction...

Steve Terry

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Dave Wade wrote:
> "Steve Terry" <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:irbeud$s22$1...@dont-email.me...
>> Andy Foad wrote:
>>> On May 20, 10:34 pm, "Steve Terry" <gfour...@tesco.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ofcom last year threatened pubs and restaurants not to run open
>>>> wifi, so many signed up with them.
>>>
>>> Eh ?
>>> Sorry being a but dense here, but why was OFCOM getting
>>> ratty with pubs running open wifi, and who's wifi, BT ?
>>>
>>> (Sorry for being a bit dense, I've tried piecing this
>>> bit of the thread together but failed) ;-)
>>>
>> Ofcom told them they would be liable for litigation if their users
>> misused their open Wifi networks.
>
> That's odd because when my employer asked about the requirements on an

> open WiFi network OfCom said it was outside their jurisdiction...
>
In reality it is outside Ofcoms jurisdiction, as Ofcom hope everything
that could cost them money to enforce is.

Their sabre rattling was simply to scare Pubs / Coffee shops into
signing up for lucrative contracts with friends of those in authority.

Pubs / Coffee shops that have held out with their own open wifi
are now a tiny minority
In the UK at least, we've seen the end of an era.

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