Radcom
Richard G3CWI
thought it was going to be something about the RSGB and/or the General
Manger. I was wrong.
Ian Jackson
<f79c4259-2f02-442a...@e4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com>,
Richard G3CWI <g3...@tesco.net> writes
>Latest editorial "Are we letting ourselves down?" by Peter Kirby. I
>thought it was going to be something about the RSGB and/or the General
>Manger. I was wrong.
>
sentiments completely (and, I'm sure, many contributors to this NG).
However, I do rather object to the use of 'us' and 'we'. Please include
ME out!
--
Ian
Spike
Ian Jackson wrote:
>Richard G3CWI <g3...@tesco.net> writes
>
>>Latest editorial "Are we letting ourselves down?" by Peter Kirby. I
>>thought it was going to be something about the RSGB and/or the General
>>Manger. I was wrong.
>>
>I can't really disagree with what Peter Kirby says. He expresses my
>sentiments completely (and, I'm sure, many contributors to this NG).
>
>However, I do rather object to the use of 'us' and 'we'. Please include
>ME out!
In the case that 'us' and 'we' refer to the wider amateur community,
could either of you expand a little on the somewhat bald statements
made, or give a url?
TIA
--
Spike
Len GM0ONX
But are you surprised you were wrong?
Brian Reay
"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:spO7BHOU...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
What other "collective term" would you recommend to convey the message?
I agree, the message is "spot on".
--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net
M0MTH
Ian Jackson
<Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid> writes
It's in the latest (February) RadCom.
It's all to do with bad operating standards, jamming, vulgar language,
loutish behaviour and the like - lots of the sort of things which have
been repeatedly discussed on this NG. Nothing to do with what the RSGB
might be doing wrong (not that I am implying that they are!).
--
Ian
Real_Radio_Ham
"Richard G3CWI" <g3...@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:f79c4259-2f02-442a...@e4g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> Latest editorial "Are we letting ourselves down?" by Peter Kirby. I
> thought it was going to be something about the RSGB and/or the General
> Manger. I was wrong.
General Manger?
Is that where the RSGB higher echelon all have their mouths in the trough?
Len GM0ONX
No Beanie just their foot(or vice versa).
M0MTH
> It's in the latest (February) RadCom.
> It's all to do with bad operating standards, jamming, vulgar language,
> loutish behaviour and the like
Entitled 'The FL - 9 years on'..?
Jim in the shack ...
> It's in the latest (February) RadCom.
> It's all to do with bad operating standards, jamming, vulgar language,
> loutish behaviour and the like - lots of the sort of things which have
> been repeatedly discussed on this NG.
NO NO THERE IS NOTHING WRONG...NO NO NO OUR NEWCOMERS ARE THE NEW BREED
PUSHING BACK THE BOUNDARIES
Real_Radio_Ham
"Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
news:iha8vn$lbq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Who is Beanie FFS?
Jim in the shack ...
"Real_Radio_Ham" <tripol...@gendermorph.com> wrote in message
news:ZZ1_o.12004$MD5....@newsfe23.ams2...
gareth
> It's all to do with bad operating standards, jamming, vulgar language,
>Nothing to do with what the RSGB might be doing wrong
If vulgar language is being proscribed, then it is a direct
criticism of the RSCB's director who regularly describes
others as, "Dog Turds", and describes wives as being
sheep in the bed.
2m0-sil
<james.stewart...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "Real_Radio_Ham" <tripolyimo...@gendermorph.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
bad operating, jamming,,vulgar language, loutish behaviour--not you
lot surely.
2m0-sil
>
> - Show quoted text -
you lot get your act together....there has been enough carry on on the
radio.
you better clean you acts up soon...what happens when the spectrum is
taken away?????
do you all want to go back to cb AGAIN!
Len GM0ONX
Not biting.
Len GM0ONX
What about the tooth fairy?
2m0-sil
> On 20/01/2011 21:46, Jim in the shack ... wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
i wasnt talking about jimbo len.
Spike
Ian Jackson wrote:
>In message <ge4hj6t81n3frora1...@4ax.com>, Spike
>>In the case that 'us' and 'we' refer to the wider amateur community,
>>could either of you expand a little on the somewhat bald statements
>>made, or give a url?
>>
>>TIA
>
>It's in the latest (February) RadCom.
>It's all to do with bad operating standards, jamming, vulgar language,
>loutish behaviour and the like - lots of the sort of things which have
>been repeatedly discussed on this NG. Nothing to do with what the RSGB
>might be doing wrong (not that I am implying that they are!).
Oh, you mean it's all about poor training. What organisation runs
that, then?
--
Spike
David Woolley
GB3SL, and probably several other repeaters, were closed down, because
of such behaviour, long before that. I remember GB3WL having such
problems a least a decade earlier.
gareth
news:ibsYtrCf...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
> It's all to do with bad operating standards, jamming, vulgar language,
> loutish behaviour and the like - lots of the sort of things which have
> been repeatedly discussed on this NG. Nothing to do with what the RSGB
> might be doing wrong (not that I am implying that they are!).
I am reminded of the quotation (Shakespearian? Biblical? Aristotelian?
Koranian?)
that those who sow the wind will reap the whirlwind.
The RSCB have been cultivating the turnips for several years and now
the RSCB are reaping what they sowed.
It also seem very hypocritical to be saying to those turnips that the RSCB
wanted
the turnips' money, desperately, but now that the RSCB has got the money,
the RSCB
doesn't actually want the turnips.
(Who would want a diet of turnips, anyway, when you can lord it up on
weekend
jollies in 5-star hotels at the subscribing members' expense?)
gareth
news:pmnij61ob53hg5pg7...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:26:10 +0000, Spike <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid>
> wrote:
>>Ian Jackson wrote:
>>>It's in the latest (February) RadCom.
>>>It's all to do with bad operating standards, jamming, vulgar language,
>>>loutish behaviour and the like - lots of the sort of things which have
>>>been repeatedly discussed on this NG. Nothing to do with what the RSGB
>>>might be doing wrong (not that I am implying that they are!).
>>Oh, you mean it's all about poor training. What organisation runs
>>that, then?
>
I fear that I may have "previoused" you on that one by 10 minutes.
... and .... is it not somewhat unusual for denizens of the basement to be
preaching
the master's words? (Just collected the 7 "Upstairs, Downstairs" DVDs
from this week's Daily Mail. I don't buy it usually)
gareth
news:ihbmkt$iqq$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> I am reminded of the quotation (Shakespearian? Biblical? Aristotelian?
> Koranian?)
> that those who sow the wind will reap the whirlwind.
>
Not wishing to promote the mental illness that is the world
of make-believe of the religionists, but it seems to be
Biblical ...
Also popularised by Arthur Harris, the leader of a mob
of murderers of innocent civilians in Germany.
Brian Morrison
lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
> However. After 7-8 years of their drip-drip adminstration of a lethal
> dose to amateur-radio in the UK, this death-bedside confession is too
> little, too late.
Anyone want to post the text of whatever article this is?
--
Brian Morrison
gareth
news:mopij61qpkq9199a5...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 10:41 +0000, Chronos <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>>> Quite. The most successful cure to interference problems on GB3LO,
>>> was closing it down.
>>> The moral is.
>>> Close the lot of 'em down for a 100% cure to repeater problems
>>...and encourage a bit of skill in VHF/UHF operating instead of
>>providing a crutch for those who can't be arsed.
> I suspect that a lot of the hand-wringing now coming from certain
> voices within/associated with its management, is down to them having
> looked at the figures and discovered that the income from the turnip
> harvest has not come anywhere near the costs of the 'old guard'
> members whose gruntlement with the RSGB has never been so dis-sed.
> However. After 7-8 years of their drip-drip adminstration of a lethal
> dose to amateur-radio in the UK, this death-bedside confession is too
> little, too late.
Altogether now, "NNNNN!"
(I wonder who make up the usualsuspectitude responsible for bringing
about the debacle, and should we expect to see a number of resignations?)
Vince
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>It's in the latest (February) RadCom.
>It's all to do with bad operating standards, jamming, vulgar language,
>loutish behaviour and the like - lots of the sort of things which have
>been repeatedly discussed on this NG. Nothing to do with what the RSGB
>might be doing wrong (not that I am implying that they are!).
Perhaps someone in the RSGB has finally realised that the standards
have fallen and is now asking questions why ?
(when it was obvious to many long ago)
But by now the problem has got so big that it's too late to fix it.
But remember folks... The FL saved amateur radio !!!
Vince
<g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>I wish somebody would post the editorial, either here or on a web-site
A pointer to your email addr ???
M0MTH
> I wish somebody would post the editorial, either here or on a web-site
> about.
Yes, likewise.
Vince
>Don't let that stop you from joining in, Wlat. It didn't stop me. :-)
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Chris Kirby
I think there are aa few (including myself) who would wish to post the
text here - but who don't wish to end up of the wrong end of a
copyright writ issued by a book publishing company.
Still - if you're a member - you'll have the text.
Like Ian, I also object to the GM's use of the [fully] inclusive "us"
and "we". "Some of us" is more accurate.
--
Chris
G4FZN
gareth
news:uunjj61j5hll4v6jo...@4ax.com...
>
> I think there are aa few (including myself) who would wish to post the
> text here - but who don't wish to end up of the wrong end of a
> copyright writ issued by a book publishing company.
>
The precise mutterings of an overpaid clerk at whose desk the buck stops for
the responsibilty of the lavatories, are somewhat irrelevant to Ham Radio
and to this NG.
Sufficient has been reported here already about the context of the
hypocrisy.
Ian Jackson
lu...@eternal-flames.gov writes
>On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:40:34 +0000, Chris Kirby <g4...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Still - if you're a member - you'll have the text.
>
>
>If Kirby is into inclusiveness and thinks _all_ amateurs will be
>agreeing with him, should he not have published it on the RSGB for
>_all_ amateurs to read?
>
>Or does he just mean those who are RSGB members - which is well under
>half the total number of UK amateurs.
>
Presumably you meant "on the RSGB website" (and not in the 'Members'
Enclosure', of course). Maybe it will appear (once the ink on the latest
issue of RadCom is dry).
As it does indeed apply to 'all' radio amateurs, it would certainly be a
good idea to make it available for all to read.
--
Ian
Peter Day
> Don't be picky! Of course I meant their website, but as we polished
> off a rather nice bottle of wine with the evening meal, I can't be
> expected to remember to type every word.:-)
You have wine in Ireland ? !!!!!! What is the world coming to these days?
Ian Jackson
lu...@eternal-flames.gov writes
>On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:40:05 +0000, Ian Jackson
><ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>>If Kirby is into inclusiveness and thinks _all_ amateurs will be
>>>agreeing with him, should he not have published it on the RSGB for
>>>_all_ amateurs to read?
>>>
>>>Or does he just mean those who are RSGB members - which is well under
>>>half the total number of UK amateurs.
>>>
>>Presumably you meant "on the RSGB website" (and not in the 'Members'
>>Enclosure', of course). Maybe it will appear (once the ink on the latest
>>issue of RadCom is dry).
>
>off a rather nice bottle of wine with the evening meal, I can't be
>expected to remember to type every word. :-)
>
>>good idea to make it available for all to read.
>
>stopped me having an opinion of course. It just makes it all the more
>interesting a game.
>
Good man.
--
Ian
Len GM0ONX
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:40:34 +0000, Chris Kirby<g4...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> text here - but who don't wish to end up of the wrong end of a
>> copyright writ issued by a book publishing company.
>>
>> Still - if you're a member - you'll have the text.
>
>
> Is it a kind of book club?
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
And I suppose the Salvation Army is only a well known publisher of the
"War Cry" to you Walt. It too is a company Limited by Guarantee. :-)
lu...@eternal-flames.gov
<g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:40:34 +0000, Chris Kirby <g4...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I think there are aa few (including myself) who would wish to post the
>>text here - but who don't wish to end up of the wrong end of a
>>copyright writ issued by a book publishing company.
>>
>>Still - if you're a member - you'll have the text.
>
>How can one be a member of a book publishing company?
>
>Is it a kind of book club?
>
>73 de Wlat
Like those book shops they used to have in Praed Street, Paddington.
Nick.
Rambo
I take it you are refering to the bombings of Dresden and Hamburg.
Spike
Rambo wrote:
How easily he dismisses the dead civilians of Poland, Norway, Denmark
Holland, Belgium, France, and the Soviet Union, for his own twisted
ends.
--
Spike
gareth
news:ur7lj6pjh3tmjjsb0...@4ax.com...
Is there something twisted about criticising the killing of innocent people
in their hundreds?
You would seem to be inciting the killing of British plods by British
civilians
because British plods kill British civilians, if I understand your train of
thought.
Spike
lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 09:17:08 +0000, Spike <Aero.Spike@S&T.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>How easily he dismisses the dead civilians of Poland, Norway, Denmark
>>Holland, Belgium, France, and the Soviet Union, for his own twisted
>>ends.
>
>Poland. Fair comment, but Germans
>_and_ Russians jointly
> to blame.
>Norway. Fair comment and a few
> collaborators.
>Denmark. Too many collaborators.
>Holland, Belgium and France. Misc. frogs, 'nuff said.
>Soviet Union. Big enough to take care of
> itself.
>
>Now THAT is easy dismissal. :-)
>
>Nick.
The (possibly obscure) point I was trying to make was that Germany
started all this, and the people of all those countries suffered as a
result.
Until the Normandy invasion the war could only be taken to Germany by
the RAF, and Harris - like all commanders throughout history - had to
work with what was to hand. To single out Harris in the way the OP did
is to ignore the causus belli - which was Hitler's Germany. He has
ignored the fact that they chose guns before butter, and got battered
as a result.
--
Spike
Len GM0ONX
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:18:34 +0000, Len GM0ONX
> <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote:
>
>> And I suppose the Salvation Army is only a well known publisher of the
>> "War Cry" to you Walt. It too is a company Limited by Guarantee. :-)
>
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
Ah but the Sally Ann is a Company Limited by Guarantee and a publisher
or magazines and books.
Rambo
>
>I dismissed all of that in a few lines. Therefore, easy dismissal.
>:-)
>
>Nick.
The biggest villains were the USA, with the callous bombings of
Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Cities previously left untouched so they could
test the effects of the new atomic weapons. Why not a military target?
Not to mention the firebombing of Tokyo, 97,000 killed and 125,000
wounded.
Len GM0ONX
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:10:17 +0000, Len GM0ONX
> <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ah but the Sally Ann is a Company Limited by Guarantee and a publisher
>> or magazines and books.
>
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
I'm saying there's more to your assertion that the RSGB are merely book
publishing companies. Doesn't the ISWL also publish "Books" and
magazines? Apart from a buro they need the RSGB to operate for incoming
cards, the odd award and contest they don't seen to do much more. Are
the ISWL just a book and magazine publishing organisation? I don't think
so but by your definition they may be.
The only difference is if the ISWL goes bust owing money or is sued for
something it prints in Monitor every member is personally liable for the
debt as they are a non incorporated body in which every member has joint
and several liability.
Spike
Rambo wrote:
Scroogle or AltaVista for "South-East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere".
--
Spike
Len GM0ONX
> itself in that respect!
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
And you should be worried that you're not! It has properly protected
its members in this way since 1926.
Spike
lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:04:12 +0000, lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>
>>I would guess that it is just yards from the old Russian import place
>>(which from a vague memory was 9 Praed Street) and I agree with you,
>>that's where I remember the book-shop being.
>
>I was wrong about the street address. Having Googled again (it's okay
>as long as you don't enjoy it). I found the link below:
>
>http://cameras.alfredklomp.com/toe/
>
>That shows it being at 15-17 Praed Street - right next door to where
>the book-shop was, but there may have been street numbers lost during
>rebuilding etc.
>
>This is turning into "All our Yesterdays" :-)
The only thing to look forward to's the past ;-)
--
Spike
gareth
>
> The (possibly obscure) point I was trying to make was that Germany
> started all this, and the people of all those countries suffered as a
> result.
But that's wrong.
WWII started when Britain declared war. Up to that point all that
had been happening was that Germany had been extending its colonialism,
and such action was indistinguishable from Britain with its empire.
> To single out Harris in the way the OP did
> is to ignore the causus belli - which was Hitler's Germany. He has
> ignored the fact that they chose guns before butter, and got battered
> as a result.
Harris and the riff-RAF unders him were a murderers.
The actions of others do not excuse murder.
gareth
news:p5glj69pbetimrtn8...@4ax.com...
>
> Additionally, there is an argument that the death and destruction of
> those two cities has resulted in no third world war in the 65 years
> that followed them.
>
Korea
.
gareth
news:1jglj69fd3rgjiite...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:10:17 +0000, Len GM0ONX
> <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote:
>>Ah but the Sally Ann is a Company Limited by Guarantee and a publisher
>>or magazines and books.
>
The behaviour of religionists and their organisations is irrelevent to
Ham Radio and to this NG.
By drawing a paraller thereto, the representatives of the RSCB who
post into this NG, aka, "The Twofaceitude", they suggest that the RSCB
is equally irrelevant to Ham Radio and to this NG.
Len GM0ONX
Are you still here, you promised us last week you were going.
gareth
> itself in that respect!
>
directors
such as general and regional managers
Jeff
Your grasp of history is very poor, Korea was not more WW3 than the
Falklands, or Bosnia.
Silly Boy
Jeff
gareth
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:10:37 +0000, lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>>I vaguely remember that. Just by the old Russian import company.
>>I don't think it's still there. Most of that end of the street has
>>been completely redeveloped.
> This might have been it:
> "The Modern Book Co
> 19-21 Praed Street, Paddington
> London, W2 1NP
> Inactive Listing
> Information:
> This business is listed as inactive in our database."
That is regrettable because it was always a "must-visit" when on any
train journey up to London*****. (I note in the flyleaf that the 386
processor
manual I am reading at the moment was purchased there in May 1991)
*****Despite being a railway enthusiast, I rarely travel by train, the last
time being August 2006.
gareth
news:c0mlj6tp95rib6u88...@4ax.com...
>
The whole World was there by virtue of UN involvement.
gareth
news:ihel6u$ptp$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> lu...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>> Though it does make you wonder where some of them stick their
>> 'moving finger' when it's not being used for writing.
> TBH they can stick it wherever they like as long as it's not in my
> pie. I know this sounds selfish, cruel and callous. I hope you approve
> ;o)
> Joking aside, I'm getting a little weary of fighting this corner. It's
> extremely disheartening to see all the good will and trust built up
> over the years being traded in return for a short-term solution to the
> problem of freebanders, a few pieces of silver and the promise of a
> bit of power over newcomers. It's all extremely short sighted and says
> a lot about the long-term vision, or lack thereof, that the people who
> "turn up" really have and how easily they are manipulated by others
> with hidden agendas.
Perhaps those who picked up the baton are indistinguishable in personality
from the inadequates who become Playnet traffic wardens of Plastic Plods?
Len GM0ONX
Can't you get anything right? General and Regional Managers have NO
responsible what so ever under the Companies Act by way of these
positions. The General Manager is not a member of the Board of Directors
of the Company and a Regional Manager would have to be separately
elected to the Board before he would be a Director. Being a Regional
Manager is not enough.
For a Director to be liable for the companies debt he would have had to
provide personal financial guarantees or committed a criminal offence
under the Companies Act. For an ex director of a company yourself you
are remarkable ignorant of company law. When will do the honourable
thing and honourer your commitment to this NG and go?.
http://corporate-responsibility.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/directors_guidance_final.pdf
Jeff
> <lu...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
> news:c0mlj6tp95rib6u88...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:59:43 -0000, "gareth"
>> <no.spa...@you.invalid> wrote:
>>> <lu...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
>>> news:p5glj69pbetimrtn8...@4ax.com...
>>>> Additionally, there is an argument that the death and destruction of
>>>> those two cities has resulted in no third world war in the 65 years
>>>> that followed them.
>>> Korea
>>
>> Not by any stretch of the imagination, a world war.
>>
>
> The whole World was there by virtue of UN involvement.
>
So by your definition we are up to World War 65, due to the 63 UN
military actions since 1945!!
Jeff
Brian Reay.
news:ihemh7$g5v$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> Can't you get anything right? General and Regional Managers have NO
> responsible what so ever under the Companies Act by way of these
> positions. The General Manager is not a member of the Board of Directors
> of the Company and a Regional Manager would have to be separately elected
> to the Board before he would be a Director. Being a Regional Manager is
> not enough.
>
> For a Director to be liable for the companies debt he would have had to
> provide personal financial guarantees or committed a criminal offence
> under the Companies Act. For an ex director of a company yourself you are
> remarkable ignorant of company law. When will do the honourable thing and
> honourer your commitment to this NG and go?.
Len, Gareth confabulates his postings to try and cause trouble. The factual
content is minimal, if it exists at all.
Just ignore him.
--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net
Vince
<seeweb...@ild.com> wrote:
>Len, Gareth confabulates his postings to try and cause trouble. The factual
>content is minimal, if it exists at all.
>Just ignore him.
http://www.schwimmerlegal.com/images/HisMastersVoiceSign.jpg
Len GM0ONX
I'm nearly there, I ignore all of the postings he starts. :-)
Len GM0ONX
Dream on Nipper!
Brian Reay.
>
> I'm nearly there, I ignore all of the postings he starts. :-)
Just totally ignore him and enjoy the fireworks.
Same goes for Paul (Vince).
Len GM0ONX
gareth
news:vanlj6piufa50bqpk...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:24:12 -0000, "gareth"
> <no.spa...@you.invalid> wrote:
>><lu...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
>>news:c0mlj6tp95rib6u88...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 12:59:43 -0000, "gareth"
>>> <no.spa...@you.invalid> wrote:
>>>><lu...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
>>>>news:p5glj69pbetimrtn8...@4ax.com...
>>>>> Additionally, there is an argument that the death and destruction of
>>>>> those two cities has resulted in no third world war in the 65 years
>>>>> that followed them.
>>>>Korea
>>> Not by any stretch of the imagination, a world war.
>>The whole World was there by virtue of UN involvement.
> As it was in Algeria, Biafra, Cyprus, Indonesia, Iraq and even
> Vietnam, to name but a few.
> That doesn't make them world wars.
If the whole world is involved, then it's a world war, pretty much
like the current war against the Muslim religionists
gareth
news:q9B_o.7229$y76....@newsfe12.ams2...
>
> Len, Gareth confabulates his postings to try and cause trouble. The
> factual content is minimal, if it exists at all.
>
That's a bit rich coming from someone known to be a LIAR, and
currently dissembling that he is a LIAR by now calling
himself a Registered Ass.