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anice...@gmail.com
Jan 10, 2016, 6:42:58 AM1/10/16
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Hi, I just thought some of you might be interested in the review I wrote on the AOR AR-DV1. I am a radio amateur based in the UK and therefore have the European version (not US). Of course it will be updated from time to time as new firmware updates add new functionality (which will not be mentioned in the manual), so it's maybe worth checking back from time to time. Finally, a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR mode.
The link is below.
http://www.cotexfood-trading.com/radio/aor-ar-dv1.html
I've also got some other radio related pages - http://cotexfood-trading.com/radio/
Regards, David, G7VDI
The link is below.
http://www.cotexfood-trading.com/radio/aor-ar-dv1.html
I've also got some other radio related pages - http://cotexfood-trading.com/radio/
Regards, David, G7VDI
Jim GM4DHJ ...
Jan 10, 2016, 10:00:07 AM1/10/16
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£1200 magic beans !!!! ......
Spike
Jan 10, 2016, 10:06:44 AM1/10/16
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On 10/01/2016 11:42, anice...@gmail.com wrote:
> a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR mode.
'All important'? Who says? On what grounds?
> a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR mode.
--
Spike
"They thought that because they had power, they had wisdom"
- with apologies to Stephen Vincent Benet
gareth
Jan 10, 2016, 10:35:54 AM1/10/16
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"Spike" <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 10/01/2016 11:42, anice...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR
>> mode.
>
> 'All important'? Who says? On what grounds?
It is important only to CBers and to CBers-masquerading-as-radio-amateurs.
>
>> a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR
>> mode.
>
> 'All important'? Who says? On what grounds?
anice...@gmail.com
Jan 10, 2016, 10:54:33 AM1/10/16
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I have several DMR repeaters on 70cm in range (although not all areas are yet served). Repeaters on VHF/UHF are an easy place for listeners to begin - they are easily received. There is now far more activity on the local DMR repeaters than on analogue. Of course, if their receiver doesn't support DMR they can't listen and start taking an interest in the hobby. That's one reason.
Spike
Jan 10, 2016, 11:29:23 AM1/10/16
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On 10/01/2016 15:54, anice...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 3:06:44 PM UTC, Spike wrote:
>> On 10/01/2016 11:42, anice...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR mode.
>> 'All important'? Who says? On what grounds?
> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 3:06:44 PM UTC, Spike wrote:
>> On 10/01/2016 11:42, anice...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR mode.
>> 'All important'? Who says? On what grounds?
> Well, to start many amateurs started out as listeners as I indeed did.
> Since DMR and other digital modes are becoming used widely on the
> amateur bands
You've now expanded into "...DMR and other digital modes...".
> Since DMR and other digital modes are becoming used widely on the
> amateur bands
> giving the listener the ability to listen in digital modes will hopefully help to
> keep new people coming into the hobby.
> I have several DMR repeaters on 70cm in range (although not all areas
> are yet served).
> Repeaters on VHF/UHF are an easy place for listeners to begin
become licensed the activity on his local repeaters had fallen off to a
considerable extent. Why do you think that changing to digital mode
will bring them back, let alone attract newcomers?
> - they are easily received. There is now far more activity on the local DMR repeaters
> than on analogue.
> Of course, if their receiver doesn't support DMR they can't listen
> and start taking an interest in the hobby. That's one reason.
in the data.
Roger Hayter
Jan 10, 2016, 2:41:59 PM1/10/16
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traffic with scanners has to with CB. Nieither is mainstream amateur
radio, but they seem to have little connection with each other.
--
Roger Hayter
gareth
Jan 10, 2016, 6:39:30 PM1/10/16
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"Roger Hayter" <ro...@hayter.org> wrote in message
news:1mgtol7.earp2ba2vnb4N%ro...@hayter.org...
-----ooooo-----
Q. What is Ham Radio?
A. Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.
Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!
This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.
Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.
The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years and now encompasses DSP
and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.
The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.
-----ooooo----
However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults.
-----ooooo-----
One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also use a CB set safe in the knowledge that
such use says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.
A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
Ham Radio and CB Radio. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind.
Ham Radio is not CB Radio and has no common ground with it!
Ham Radio is _THE_ technical pursuit for gentlemen; CB Radio
is the name for the operating hobby for those who buy their
rigs and equipment off the shelf.
-----ooooo-----
If you are the sort of person who is motivated by
a technical interest in how things work; if you took apart
malfunctioning clocks, toasters and the like and put them
right despite never having seen them working, then
a Ham Radio licence is your traditional route! There has
never been a shortage of such people, and those who gravitate
towards such an interest have always been welcomed into
our shacks and their interests fostered. There is not today,
nor has there ever been, a need to go out and encourage
and press children, children who have never expressed an
interest in Ham Radio, to come into our shacks. Such an
activity should cause eyebrows to be raised - what
normal well-adjusted adults seek the social acquaintance
of children?!
-----ooooo-----
Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_
to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity!
news:1mgtol7.earp2ba2vnb4N%ro...@hayter.org...
> gareth <no....@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "Spike" <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:dffac2...@mid.individual.net...
>> > On 10/01/2016 11:42, anice...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR
>> >> mode.
>> >
>> > 'All important'? Who says? On what grounds?
>>
>>
>> It is important only to CBers and to
>> CBers-masquerading-as-radio-amateurs.
>
> I can't really see what the activity of listening to various radio
> traffic with scanners has to with CB.
I append my FAQ below to aid your understanding ...
>
>> "Spike" <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:dffac2...@mid.individual.net...
>> > On 10/01/2016 11:42, anice...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> a scanning receiver is available which supports the all-important DMR
>> >> mode.
>> >
>> > 'All important'? Who says? On what grounds?
>>
>>
>> It is important only to CBers and to
>> CBers-masquerading-as-radio-amateurs.
>
> I can't really see what the activity of listening to various radio
> traffic with scanners has to with CB.
-----ooooo-----
Q. What is Ham Radio?
A. Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.
Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!
This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.
Radio Hams are in a unique privileged position in that
they can construct and operate their own equipment! No-one
else has this privilege. Users, such as broadcasters,
the po lice and armed farces, CBers and mobile phone
users have to purchase ready-made gear. Manufacturers
are not licensed to operate their gear. Radio Hams
are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment. This is a privilege well worth the effort
to gain, and one to be jealously guarded.
The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years and now encompasses DSP
and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.
The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.
-----ooooo----
However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults.
-----ooooo-----
One infallible way to disambiguate the CB Radio Hobbyist
from the _REAL_ Radio Ham is to solicit their view of the
difference between CB Radio and Ham Radio. A Radio Ham will
perceive Ham Radio to be a technical pursuit and will
perceive CB Radio to be a social communications facility
no different in essence to a land-line telephone or a
GSM mobile in the hands of a 6-year-old. Thus a Radio Ham
could also use a CB set safe in the knowledge that
such use says no more about him than having a land-line
telephone, whilst continuing to regard Ham Radio as a separate
technical pursuit.
A CB Radio hobbyist, on the other hand, sees no difference between
Ham Radio and CB Radio. To him, they are
sisters-under-the-skin. Wrongly, the CB Radio Hobbyist then
tries to classify himself as the equal of the Radio
Ham when, in fact, he is nothing of the kind.
Ham Radio is not CB Radio and has no common ground with it!
Ham Radio is _THE_ technical pursuit for gentlemen; CB Radio
is the name for the operating hobby for those who buy their
rigs and equipment off the shelf.
-----ooooo-----
If you are the sort of person who is motivated by
a technical interest in how things work; if you took apart
malfunctioning clocks, toasters and the like and put them
right despite never having seen them working, then
a Ham Radio licence is your traditional route! There has
never been a shortage of such people, and those who gravitate
towards such an interest have always been welcomed into
our shacks and their interests fostered. There is not today,
nor has there ever been, a need to go out and encourage
and press children, children who have never expressed an
interest in Ham Radio, to come into our shacks. Such an
activity should cause eyebrows to be raised - what
normal well-adjusted adults seek the social acquaintance
of children?!
-----ooooo-----
Please remember that this FAQ is a _POSITIVE EXHORTATION_
to you to exert yourselves to join our fraternity!
Stephen Thomas Cole
Jan 11, 2016, 8:01:37 AM1/11/16
to
very insecure chap.
--
STC // M0TEY // twitter.com/ukradioamateur
Brian Reay
Jan 11, 2016, 8:41:19 AM1/11/16
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Even his chum Frank cheered on a DMR repeater, not knowing it relied on
the same CODEC used on DStar, and he was so against as it wasn't open
sourced.
I recall the anti-DStar crowd insisting that only DStar repeaters would
ever be approved as the RSGB would try to 'block' anything else. In
fact, I sought and got an assurance from the relevant Board member that
this would not be the case. Sure enough, DMR repeaters are coming
on-line probably in greater numbers than DStar ones.
Oddly, those who objected to the CODEC on DStar haven't whined about the
CODEC on DMR, even though it is the same one!
I've never particularly cared for DStar, nor been impressed with it.
I've seen it in action a few times and, while in theory it should be
impressive, I've yet to be impressed. Plus, the cost of the kit is out
of proportion to what it really offers- as opposed to what it could offer.
Conversely, DMR kit is cheaper and more limited from what I've seen.
Basically, a better buy for what it does. Still not quite my idea of
amateur radio but others enjoy it and each to their own. I'm half
considering a DMR radio, just to try and 'have a play' but I don't see
it becoming a big part of my amateur radio activity. One of my Xmas
gifts, an Arduino development board etc., will be used far more as it
appeals to my geeky side.
Paul Cummins
Jan 11, 2016, 9:54:17 AM1/11/16
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In article <n70b8s$luf$1...@dont-email.me>, no...@m.com (Brian Reay) wrote:
> Even his chum Frank cheered on a DMR repeater, not knowing it
> relied on the same CODEC used on DStar, and he was so against as it
> wasn't open sourced.
It's funny you should say that.
> Even his chum Frank cheered on a DMR repeater, not knowing it
> relied on the same CODEC used on DStar, and he was so against as it
> wasn't open sourced.
D-STAR uses AMBE.
DMR uses AMBE+2.
That's almost lie saying that DAB and DAB+ use the same codec.
Which clearly they don't.
As usual, the Ku^Hentish M3 gets it wrong.
--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
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