UK Column - The Child Abuse Cover Up - A Police Whistleblower Speaks

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Published on Jul 26, 2016

UK Column: Dispataches from the Front - "The Child Abuse Cover Up - A
Police Whistleblower Speaks"
[John Wedger {nym?}]

"In a courageous and explosive audio interview with UK Column "Despatches
from the Front", Detective Constable John Wedger, a Metropolitan Police
child protection specialist, takes the lid off the scale of child abuse,
trafficking and prostitution in London and UK. He exposes the lies,
threats and intimidation used by the police, Local Authorities, Social
Services, Politicians, Charities and others to protect Establishment
figures and Westminster. . . . "

With the UKC one never quite knows. . . is Brian Gerrish signalling to
the initiated when he uses the word "incredible" near the start? If not,
and if it's authentic, someone should wean him off using words and
phrases carrying a nasty payload like 'incredible', 'fantastic', 'beyond
belief'.

Andy Wainwright

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Jul 27, 2016, 6:58:23 PM7/27/16

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A real and serious problem, and a timebomb ticking under the British establishment. The same applies in the USA, Canada and other European countries.

Check out the work of Bill Maloney of Pie'n'Mash films.

Such is the depth of this, the only option maybe to shut down operations at Westminster and Whitehall, form a new seat of government with a newly appointed senior civil service. Replacing the UK with a loose confederation of British states, maintaining a small federal government to handle foreign policy, defence, external border controls and a supreme court dealing with free trade and human rights issues would be one possible solution.

I'd quite like to run for Prime Minister of an independent East Anglia, my manifesto would feature a "no victim no crime" (victims could be non-human covering animal cruelty etc) legal system and a Citizen's Income instead of means tested welfare to encourage employment.

At the moment, drug dealers typically get longer sentences than child molesters, the former is no different morally to running an off licence or bookmakers. You can't help but wonder if the judges are bent in some way, there's unfortunately a culture of abuse in many of the top boarding schools they attended.

London would likely prosper more as an independent city state. Geographically smaller states tend to support a diverse population whilst retaining civic or national pride, it's difficult to operate a functional liberal democracy over a larger area.

I've started a UKAP group (UK Abolition Party) on Facebook, at present the only other member though is my other half, though the idea seems to be catching on and others have been writing into newspapers with much the same sentiments as those expounded by me.

I'm happy with different social classes, communism and similar have been tried and failed. What isn't on is different classes being treated differently in law, at present though high enough on the social and economic ladder are effectively above all forms of law. Sometimes a Tony Token millionaire is chucked in prison and usually the nicer sort of prison.

Sir Jimmy Savile OBE might one day be seen in a better light, as much a paedophile exposer as a paedophile himself. There's a saying that you can judge a man by the company he keeps, and it seems very likely indeed that there are worse offenders than him higher up the social ladder.

theother...@gmail.com

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Jul 27, 2016, 7:40:02 PM7/27/16

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There has been quite a lot of research on 'social dominance' and it seems much of what it engenders isn't good. Caste systems are not a reliable indicator however as self perceiving 'dominant' individuals in all castes tend to exhibit the same set of unfortunate traits.
So, whilst the denizens of westminster are four times as likely to be 'known to the police' as those from outside that ghetto, persuading them not to mess with kiddies is not straightforward.
Problems arise when an individual who feels dominant is challenged, if they are made fun of they can get very aggressive indeed. They do tend to find it easier than normal people to 'justify' or rationalise bumping off those who do not support them, but some Great leaders are a bit greater than others. Genghis Khan, when he became leader had a long chat with the bloke who put him in the stocks in his youth, trying to persuade the chap to at least pretend to acknowledge him as leader. The chap refused, and Genghis was quite upset as that meant he had to have him killed even though he valued the chaps wisdom.
Smaller communities do tend to thrive, if you don't know people you tend not to trust them and humans seem able to manage groups up to about 100 (if the group size increases they form sub-groups to keep things manageable). Old Polish chap I knew years ago watched his village being raised to the ground by the Germans, he was only a kiddie but he made his way to the UK and joined up to fight. He had been born and grown up in a rural village and felt that we all end up living in 'villages', meaning small sub-sets within communities.
The Israelis found that a kibbutz with more than about 100 people started to segregate, this may be to do with how many social relationships a human can manage (I forget the figure but it is pretty small) and the 'degree of separation' between individuals.
C Northcote Parkinson (in, I think, Parkinson's Law) makes a fair case of elected bodies having a central council of no more than 7 members and in a smaller group that is more likely to be considered representative than in a larger group.
The Germans are interesting from the federal perspective, because of their history they have different words for homesick depending on whether they are talking about their home town, home state or Germany. The home state one being dominant.
I suspect the Great Leaders will not take to your Plan, even if everyone clubbed together and bought them an aeroplane and a helicopter to ride around in. Delusional paranoia leads them to think that there is something attached to the other end of that big silver lever marked 'power'.

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Mike

thenoseknows

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Aug 12, 2016, 5:21:13 PM8/12/16

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theother...@gmail.com wrote in
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[skewing distractions excised - thread hijack countered]

UK Column's 'police whistleblower' not of concern to me, but necessary
to close this thread by bringing it back on topic.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/25/ipcc-investigates-11-
mishandling-greville-janner-child-sex-abuse-claims

thenoseknows

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Aug 12, 2016, 6:13:08 PM8/12/16

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thenoseknows <thenos...@not4spamhushmail.com> wrote in news:nolek8$dho
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Closed? not quite so.

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/161613/janner-family-welcomes-
resignation-child-sex-abuse-inquiry-chair

"The son of the late Lord Janner has welcomed the resignation of Dame
Lowell Goddard as chair of the government's independent inquiry into
child sex abuse.

Daniel Janner said he had been ready to call for the judge to stand down
after she refused his request to adjourn the part of the inquiry relating
to Lord Janner."

'nuff said.

theother...@gmail.com

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Nudge nudge, wink wink, yu know how it is squire. As they say in westminster. I await the Wikileaks version.

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Mike

Nomen_Nescio

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Aug 22, 2016, 2:41:58 PM8/22/16

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thenoseknows <thenos...@not4spamhushmail.com> wrote in
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> thenoseknows <thenos...@not4spamhushmail.com> wrote in
> news:nolek8$dho $1...@node2.news.atman.pl:
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>> theother...@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:848eaaf3-854f-4cb9...@googlegroups.com:
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>>> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 23:58:23 UTC+1, Andy Wainwright wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 at 10:58:26 PM UTC+1, Nomen_Nescio
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amkkK-_o9vA
>>>> > https://soundcloud.com/ukcolumn/the-child-abuse-cover-up-a-police-
>>>> > whistleblower-speaks
>>>> >
>>>> > Published on Jul 26, 2016
>>>> >
>>>> > UK Column: Dispataches from the Front - "The Child Abuse Cover Up
>>>> > - A
>>>
>>>> > Police Whistleblower Speaks"
>>>> > [John Wedger {nym?}]
>>>> >