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Ördög
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> In article <ordh0u$pa2$1...@dont-email.me> Jack Fate <nos...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>> http://tuckered.co.uk/2017/10/05/the-nazis-were-not-lefty-socialists-
you-thick-fucking-cunts/
> National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
WAS NOT leftist!
> Unions - Socialist action squads.
Except for the in function and some even name rightwing unions...
~~~~~
*Debunking The “Nazis Were Leftists” Lie*
Source:
<http://shoqvalue.com/the-nazis-were-leftists-lie>
" *Nonsense is nonsense*
…and it should be exposed as such; often and always. There are few
right wing lies quite so annoying as "the Nazis were
Leftists/Socialists/Communists" lie. The revisionist hooey whores like
Jonah Goldberg have made it easier for this orchestrated stupidity to
gain new traction with his "Liberal Fascism" screed. The left, as it
is quite good at doing lately, has utterly failed to push back against
this absurdity in any focused manner, so this too gains acceptance
among those who think Obama was born in Kenya, the media is liberal,
Canadians are overwhelming the U.S. health care system, and government
can't create jobs.
Below I've put down a few good articles you can use to defuse this
idiotic argument. It's not hard. I will update it as I have time. If
you know of some brief or extended articles I should add here, please
pass them along to me via Twitter or in comments below.
Please use the Tweet button below and help pass this along to friends,
neighbors, and sane countrymen. Thanks!
Brief Debunkers
*Hitler, Nazis, Socialism, and Rightwing Propaganda*
The basis of the conflation of nazism and socialism is the term
"National Socialism," a self description of the Nazis. "National
Socialism" includes the word "socialism", but it is just a word.
Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and
communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews. In
1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists
exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal
socialist activity" in 1936.
*Debunking GOP lies*
The GOP uses deception and fears to try to break the president and
his agenda for change. Ultra-right broadcasters even lie about our
World War II enemy. Their claims about health care, big business and
"socialism" in Nazi Germany are not only untrue, but vicious and
ignorant
*The ‘Socialists Are Communists’ Myth*
The Myth 1 — The Nazis were National Socialists and therefore
Nazism is a form of socialism. The left-wing parties like Labour and
the Greens are therefore similar to the Nazis politically.
The Truth 1 — Nope: a common mistake propagated by people who
think that a name means what it says. Take the Democratic Republic of
Congo, the German Democratic Republic or the Peoples’ Democratic
Republic of Korea (North Korea). Any takers for claiming them as being
democracies?
*Extended Debunkers*
*Myth: Hitler was a Leftist—by Steve Kangas*
To most people, Hitler's beliefs belong to the extreme far right.
For example, most conservatives believe in patriotism and a strong
military; carry these beliefs far enough, and you arrive at Hitler's
warring nationalism. This association has long been something of an
embarrassment to the far right. To deflect such criticism,
conservatives have recently launched a counter-attack, claiming that
Hitler was a socialist, and therefore belongs to the political left,
not the right.
The primary basis for this claim is that Hitler was a National
Socialist. The word "National" evokes the state, and the word
"Socialist" openly identifies itself as such.
However, there is no academic controversy over the status of this
term: it was a misnomer. Misnomers are quite common in the history of
political labels
*Readings on American Nazism from Southern Poverty Law Center*
SPLC has some great articles in their archive that reveal just how
many of the more vicious and ignorant Nazi myths have been morphed and
migrated into American extremist's culture. Often with the tacit
approval of many mainstream conservatives and Republicans.
*The money shot*
If you just don't have a lot of time, you can use Hitler's own words
from Mein Kampf, where the Furhrer clearly illustrates his contempt
for the "leftists," and had used their colors (not to mention their
name) to annoying them:
Yes, how often did they not turn up in huge numbers, those
supporters of the Red Flag, all previously instructed to smash up
everything once and for all and put an end to these meetings. More
often than not everything hung on a mere thread, and only the
chairman’s ruthless determination and the rough handling by our ushers
baffled our adversaries’ intentions. And indeed they had every reason
for being irritated.
The fact that we had chosen red as the colour for our posters
sufficed to attract them to our meetings. The ordinary bourgeoisie
were very shocked to see that, we had also chosen the symbolic red of
Bolshevism and they regarded this as something ambiguously
significant.
The suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we
also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists
suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists. The actual difference
between Socialism and Marxism still remains a mystery to these people
up to this day. The charge of Marxism was conclusively proved when it
was discovered that at our meetings we deliberately substituted the
words ‘Fellow-countrymen and Women’ for ‘Ladies and Gentlemen’ and
addressed each other as ‘Party Comrade’. We used to roar with laughter
at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle
out our origin, our intentions and our aims.
We chose red for our posters after particular and careful
deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to
arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings – if
only in order to break them up – so that in this way we got a chance
of talking to the people.*
--
Ördög
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> In article <ordh0u$pa2$1...@dont-email.me> Jack Fate <nos...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>> http://tuckered.co.uk/2017/10/05/the-nazis-were-not-lefty-socialists-
you-thick-fucking-cunts/
> National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
WAS NOT leftist!
> Unions - Socialist action squads.
Except for the in function and some even name rightwing unions...
~~~~~
*Debunking The “Nazis Were Leftists” Lie*
Source:
<http://shoqvalue.com/the-nazis-were-leftists-lie>
" *Nonsense is nonsense*
…and it should be exposed as such; often and always. There are few
right wing lies quite so annoying as "the Nazis were
Leftists/Socialists/Communists" lie. The revisionist hooey whores like
Jonah Goldberg have made it easier for this orchestrated stupidity to
gain new traction with his "Liberal Fascism" screed. The left, as it
is quite good at doing lately, has utterly failed to push back against
this absurdity in any focused manner, so this too gains acceptance
among those who think Obama was born in Kenya, the media is liberal,
Canadians are overwhelming the U.S. health care system, and government
can't create jobs.
Below I've put down a few good articles you can use to defuse this
idiotic argument. It's not hard. I will update it as I have time. If
you know of some brief or extended articles I should add here, please
pass them along to me via Twitter or in comments below.
Please use the Tweet button below and help pass this along to friends,
neighbors, and sane countrymen. Thanks!
Brief Debunkers
*Hitler, Nazis, Socialism, and Rightwing Propaganda*
The basis of the conflation of nazism and socialism is the term
"National Socialism," a self description of the Nazis. "National
Socialism" includes the word "socialism", but it is just a word.
Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and
communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews. In
1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists
exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal
socialist activity" in 1936.
*Debunking GOP lies*
The GOP uses deception and fears to try to break the president and
his agenda for change. Ultra-right broadcasters even lie about our
World War II enemy. Their claims about health care, big business and
"socialism" in Nazi Germany are not only untrue, but vicious and
ignorant
*The ‘Socialists Are Communists’ Myth*
The Myth 1 — The Nazis were National Socialists and therefore
Nazism is a form of socialism. The left-wing parties like Labour and
the Greens are therefore similar to the Nazis politically.
The Truth 1 — Nope: a common mistake propagated by people who
think that a name means what it says. Take the Democratic Republic of
Congo, the German Democratic Republic or the Peoples’ Democratic
Republic of Korea (North Korea). Any takers for claiming them as being
democracies?
*Extended Debunkers*
*Myth: Hitler was a Leftist—by Steve Kangas*
To most people, Hitler's beliefs belong to the extreme far right.
For example, most conservatives believe in patriotism and a strong
military; carry these beliefs far enough, and you arrive at Hitler's
warring nationalism. This association has long been something of an
embarrassment to the far right. To deflect such criticism,
conservatives have recently launched a counter-attack, claiming that
Hitler was a socialist, and therefore belongs to the political left,
not the right.
The primary basis for this claim is that Hitler was a National
Socialist. The word "National" evokes the state, and the word
"Socialist" openly identifies itself as such.
However, there is no academic controversy over the status of this
term: it was a misnomer. Misnomers are quite common in the history of
political labels
*Readings on American Nazism from Southern Poverty Law Center*
SPLC has some great articles in their archive that reveal just how
many of the more vicious and ignorant Nazi myths have been morphed and
migrated into American extremist's culture. Often with the tacit
approval of many mainstream conservatives and Republicans.
*The money shot*
If you just don't have a lot of time, you can use Hitler's own words
from Mein Kampf, where the Furhrer clearly illustrates his contempt
for the "leftists," and had used their colors (not to mention their
name) to annoying them:
Yes, how often did they not turn up in huge numbers, those
supporters of the Red Flag, all previously instructed to smash up
everything once and for all and put an end to these meetings. More
often than not everything hung on a mere thread, and only the
chairman’s ruthless determination and the rough handling by our ushers
baffled our adversaries’ intentions. And indeed they had every reason
for being irritated.
The fact that we had chosen red as the colour for our posters
sufficed to attract them to our meetings. The ordinary bourgeoisie
were very shocked to see that, we had also chosen the symbolic red of
Bolshevism and they regarded this as something ambiguously
significant.
The suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we
also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists
suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists. The actual difference
between Socialism and Marxism still remains a mystery to these people
up to this day. The charge of Marxism was conclusively proved when it
was discovered that at our meetings we deliberately substituted the
words ‘Fellow-countrymen and Women’ for ‘Ladies and Gentlemen’ and
addressed each other as ‘Party Comrade’. We used to roar with laughter
at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle
out our origin, our intentions and our aims.
We chose red for our posters after particular and careful
deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to
arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings – if
only in order to break them up – so that in this way we got a chance
of talking to the people.*
--
Ördög
"Ut sementem feceris, ita metes"(Cicero)
Gorkyt
Oct 8, 2017, 7:52:52 PM10/8/17
to
Ördög wrote
>
> Except for the in function and some even name rightwing
> unions...
>
> ~~~~~
>
> *Debunking The ƒ oNazis Were Leftistsƒ Lie*
> ƒ Ýand it should be exposed as such; often and always. There are
Everybody knows that Nazis, Neo-Nazis, KKK members and other white
supremacists are all about loving homsexuals, non-whites, non-
Christians, Gypsies and all kinds of dross that polluted Europe at
the time. In fact, The Gleiwitz incident caused Poland to
invade the Third Reich because Ignacy Moscicki, President of
Poland was so against Hitlers idea of Gay Marriage, that he
couldn't take it anymore. Hitler and FDR were socialists and
were secretly in chaoots, but Hitler shot his dog, his wife and
himself in 1945 because even FDR didn't like Hitler's pro-gay
stance. It was all in the history books before the Soviets got
hold of them and they were buried somewhere in Kazakhstan. At
least that's what I read on the Internet. Hitler was a typical
Socialist, he hated white people more than anything.
The real tragedy is how so many brave Americans died fighting for
socialist FDR in WW2 when he was just like Hitler, a socialist
meanie who hated white Christian people. That's why Republicans
in WW2 stood against taking the fight to Europe in WW2. In fact,
they were like that great Conservative PM of the UK, Neville
Chamberlain. They wanted to appease Hitler because they were
pacifists.
>
> Except for the in function and some even name rightwing
> unions...
>
> ~~~~~
>
> ƒ Ýand it should be exposed as such; often and always. There are
supremacists are all about loving homsexuals, non-whites, non-
Christians, Gypsies and all kinds of dross that polluted Europe at
the time. In fact, The Gleiwitz incident caused Poland to
invade the Third Reich because Ignacy Moscicki, President of
Poland was so against Hitlers idea of Gay Marriage, that he
couldn't take it anymore. Hitler and FDR were socialists and
were secretly in chaoots, but Hitler shot his dog, his wife and
himself in 1945 because even FDR didn't like Hitler's pro-gay
stance. It was all in the history books before the Soviets got
hold of them and they were buried somewhere in Kazakhstan. At
least that's what I read on the Internet. Hitler was a typical
Socialist, he hated white people more than anything.
The real tragedy is how so many brave Americans died fighting for
socialist FDR in WW2 when he was just like Hitler, a socialist
meanie who hated white Christian people. That's why Republicans
in WW2 stood against taking the fight to Europe in WW2. In fact,
they were like that great Conservative PM of the UK, Neville
Chamberlain. They wanted to appease Hitler because they were
pacifists.
Ned Latham
Oct 8, 2017, 8:10:38 PM10/8/17
to
Tne ugly sow's lapdog
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
spewed forth its usual obsessive rant...
little head.
Lunatic rant snipped.
(you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
spewed forth its usual obsessive rant...
> Drug Deeler wrote:
> >
> > National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
>
> WAS NOT leftist!
Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
> >
> > National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
>
> WAS NOT leftist!
little head.
Lunatic rant snipped.
de chucka
Oct 8, 2017, 8:24:31 PM10/8/17
to
Mel Horton
Oct 8, 2017, 8:47:06 PM10/8/17
to
Ned Latham wrote
> Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
> little head.
>
All neo-nazis and nazis are leftists, which is why they need to be
shot on sight and not allowed to protest. I'm surprised that Trump
tolerates left wing neo-nazis when even he knows that they're
socialist cocksuckers who should be terminated with extreme
prejudice.
> Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
> little head.
>
shot on sight and not allowed to protest. I'm surprised that Trump
tolerates left wing neo-nazis when even he knows that they're
socialist cocksuckers who should be terminated with extreme
prejudice.
Rudy Canoza
Oct 8, 2017, 8:48:36 PM10/8/17
to
On 10/8/2017 5:10 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
> Tne ugly sow's lapdog
> (you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
> spewed forth its usual obsessive rant...
>> Drug Deeler wrote:
>>>
>>> National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
>>
>> WAS NOT leftist!
>
> Wrong again, moron.
No, it's right. This is a long-discredited lame attempt by far
> Tne ugly sow's lapdog
> (you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
> spewed forth its usual obsessive rant...
>> Drug Deeler wrote:
>>>
>>> National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
>>
>> WAS NOT leftist!
>
> Wrong again, moron.
right-wingnut cunts like you to disassociate yourselves from your
extremely obvious brethren, the Nazis. The Nazis were right-wing - not
in rational dispute.
Rudy Canoza
Oct 8, 2017, 8:52:33 PM10/8/17
to
On 10/8/2017 5:47 PM, Mel Horton wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote
>
>> Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
>> little head.
>>
>
> All neo-nazis and nazis are leftists,
Wrong. They're far right-wingnut.
> Ned Latham wrote
>
>> Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
>> little head.
>>
>
> All neo-nazis and nazis are leftists,
MattB
Oct 8, 2017, 8:56:46 PM10/8/17
to
On Sun, 8 Oct 2017 17:48:36 -0700, Rudy Canoza <c...@philhendrie.con>
wrote:
I don't believe the far left or far right fit the mold today, and yet
both sides use some of the same techniques as did the Nazi's of
Hitler's time.
wrote:
both sides use some of the same techniques as did the Nazi's of
Hitler's time.
Ned Latham
Oct 8, 2017, 10:39:34 PM10/8/17
to
Ned Latham
Oct 8, 2017, 10:53:41 PM10/8/17
to
Rudy Canoza wrote:
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Tne ugly sow's lapdog
> > (you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
> > spewed forth its usual obsessive rant...
> > > Drug Deeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
> > >
> > > WAS NOT leftist!
> >
> > Wrong again, moron.
>
> No, it's right.
No. It's left.
> Ned Latham wrote:
> > Tne ugly sow's lapdog
> > (you know, the cowardly retard that sometimes calls itself "Ördög")
> > spewed forth its usual obsessive rant...
> > > Drug Deeler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
> > >
> > > WAS NOT leftist!
> >
> > Wrong again, moron.
>
> No, it's right.
> This is a long-discredited lame attempt by
totalitarianising socialists.
> far right-wingnut cunts like you
exposing their lies and stupidity for all the world to see.
For some reason, they get upset about that.
Lorem Ipsum
Oct 8, 2017, 11:28:40 PM10/8/17
to
Ned Latham:
> "de chucka":
>> Ned Latham:
>> > "Ördög")
the inside of a competent psychiatrist's treatment room.
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> "de chucka":
>> Ned Latham:
>> > "Ördög")
>> > > Drug Deeler wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
>> > >
>> > > WAS NOT leftist!
>> >
>> > Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
>> > little head.
>> >
>> > Lunatic rant snipped.
>>
>> Ned goes all 3 monkeys
>
> Wrong again, moron: I see your evil and I speak to expose it.
The only thing you really should see (and mind you, do it urgently) is
>> > > >
>> > > > National Socialist Workers Party of Germany
>> > >
>> > > WAS NOT leftist!
>> >
>> > Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
>> > little head.
>> >
>> > Lunatic rant snipped.
>>
>> Ned goes all 3 monkeys
>
> Wrong again, moron: I see your evil and I speak to expose it.
the inside of a competent psychiatrist's treatment room.
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Topaz
Oct 9, 2017, 6:45:10 AM10/9/17
to
One of the posters the National Socialists put on walls said the
"left" and "right" were outdated terms.
www.tomatobubble.com www.ihr.org http://nationalvanguard.org
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com radioaryan.com
Mel Horton
Aug 25, 2019, 9:17:28 PM8/25/19
to
Ned Latham wrote
> Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
> little head.
>
> Wrong again, moron. Try to get some actual facts into your pointy
> little head.
>
Gorkyt
Aug 25, 2019, 9:17:30 PM8/25/19
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Ördög wrote
>
> Except for the in function and some even name rightwing
> unions...
>
> ~~~~~
>
> *Debunking The ƒ oNazis Were Leftistsƒ Lie*
> ƒ Ýand it should be exposed as such; often and always. There are
>
> Except for the in function and some even name rightwing
> unions...
>
> ~~~~~
>
> ƒ Ýand it should be exposed as such; often and always. There are
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