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Firnando

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Apr 4, 2011, 6:59:15 AM4/4/11
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How American News Media Works In Favor Of Israel

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21744.htm

Statistics Last Updated: November 6, 2008

Israeli and Palestinian Children Killed
September 29, 2000 - Present

123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/children.html#source

Israelis and Palestinians Killed
September 29, 2000 - Present

1,062 Israelis and at least 4,876 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/children.html#source

Israelis and Palestinians Injured
September 29, 2000 - Present

8,341 Israelis and 33,034 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/injuries.html#source

Daily U.S. Taxes to Israel and the Palestinians Fiscal Year 2007

During Fiscal Year 2007, the U.S. gave more than $6.8 million per day to Israel and $0.3 million per day to the Palestinians. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/usaid.html#source

UN Resolutions Targeting Israel and the Palestinians 1955 - 1992

Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by none. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/un.html#source

Current Number of Political Prisoners and Detainees

1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 10,756 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/prisoners.html#source

Demolitions of Israeli and Palestinian Homes
1967 - Present

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 18,147 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/homes.html#source

Current Israeli and Palestinian Unemployment Rates

The Israeli unemployment rate is 7.3%, while the Palestinian unemployment is estimated at 23%. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/econ.html#source

Current Illegal Settlements on the Other’s Land

Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. (View Source)

http://www.ifamericansknew.com/stats/settlements.html#source

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JohnR

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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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'The accusation was a major theme in the 1903 anti-Semitic pamphlet The
Protocols of the Elders of Zion...'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_Jewish_control_of_the_media>

Poor Nazi. Whatever you post, I shall be here to slap it - and you - down.

Y.
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'At his best, man is the noblest of the animals; separated from law and
justice, he is the worst'
(Aristotle (384 BCE - 322 BCE))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

JohnR

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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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> JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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> 'The accusation was a major theme in the 1903 anti-Semitic pamphlet The
> Protocols of the Elders of Zion...'
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_Jewish_control_of_the_media>
>
> Poor Nazi. Whatever you post, I shall be here to slap it - and you -
> down.
>
rofl, poor deluded fantasist. Shouldnt you be out stealing land?


David Bookbinder

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Apr 4, 2011, 10:54:16 AM4/4/11
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"Firnando"<use...@news.cn99.com> wrote in
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> 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and
> 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis
> since September 29, 2000. (View Source)

I've never understood this.

The Israelis are defending their home, Judea, also known as Palestine. The
Palestinians deny the Israeli right to live and refuse to co-exist.

Why shouldn't the Israelis defend their home and why should the
Palestinians not be killed when attacking the Israeli home?

JohnR

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Apr 4, 2011, 11:37:05 AM4/4/11
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"David Bookbinder" <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote in message
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Without ethnic cleansing, expulsion, illegal occupation, violent oppression
and crushing restriction in what remains of palestinian territory not
already stolen you'd have a point. As it stands the only substantial
difference is the numbers and methods involved.


David Bookbinder

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"JohnR" <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> As it stands the only substantial difference
> is the numbers and methods involved.

Is this true?

The land is disputed: some call it Palestine; others, Judea.

Israel wants to share it with the Palestinians having their own autonomous
authority within Palestine. The Palestinians refuse to co-exist with the
Israelis and insist the land of Judea (also called Palestine) should be
their's and their's alone.

Is not the first step that both sides agree to co-exist with the other?
Have not the Israelis already done so?

Are not the Christians better than the others, as the Christians do not
insist on living there, but only that they can visit?

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 4, 2011, 12:35:10 PM4/4/11
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How can I 'steal' that which lawfully belongs to us, Filth?

Y.
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'A conservative government is an organised hypocrisy'
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 4, 2011, 12:43:54 PM4/4/11
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*ding*

Y.
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'Make the Entire System Bow Down to Allah...'
(Abu Mounisa (<http://is.gd/k0A13>))
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JohnR

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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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> JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
>> news:h6ro68-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>> JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> { URL clipped unread }
>>>
>>> 'The accusation was a major theme in the 1903 anti-Semitic pamphlet The
>>> Protocols of the Elders of Zion...'
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_Jewish_control_of_the_media>
>>>
>>> Poor Nazi. Whatever you post, I shall be here to slap it - and you -
>>> down.
>
>> rofl, poor deluded fantasist. Shouldnt you be out stealing land?
>
> How can I 'steal' that which lawfully belongs to us, Filth?
>
I know you're thick and dishonest but even you can probably work out that
it's because it doesn't belong to you. That's why the rest of the world
agree the colonial zionist settlements are illegal.


JohnR

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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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> David Bookbinder <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
>> "Firnando"<use...@news.cn99.com> wrote in
>> news:59b2b025820244e5...@newspe.com:
>>
>>> 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and
>>> 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis
>>> since September 29, 2000. (View Source)
>>
>> I've never understood this.
>>
>> The Israelis are defending their home, Judea, also known as Palestine.
>> The
>> Palestinians deny the Israeli right to live and refuse to co-exist.
>>
>> Why shouldn't the Israelis defend their home and why should the
>> Palestinians not be killed when attacking the Israeli home?
>
> *ding*
>
dung is the word you're looking for.


Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Another content-free post from a Nazi.

Y.
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual
ignorance'
(H.L. Mencken)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Hotblack Desiato

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Apr 4, 2011, 1:57:09 PM4/4/11
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"David Bookbinder" wrote in message
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>Is this true?

Call it what you will. The Jewish settlers arriving en-masse from Europe and
the US etc do not live in 'Palestine/Israel/Judea'. They have never lived in
'Palestine/Israel/Judea', and despite their protestations of victimhood,
have never been turfed off that land and (in the vast majority of cases)
already have perfectly usable land to live on in their home countries. The
people the settlers are pulling out of their homes live there, they have
from the perspective of a human life, always lived there and have no other
usable land. It's their home, they have every natural right to carry on
living there, without a bunch of deranged, psychopathic excuses for humanity
using fairy tales from a nonsensical and barbaric religious scripture to
persecute them, destroy their lives and take the land for themselves.

You don't need to push large numbers of people to one side in order to make
a homeland for every buffoon who shares your delusional fantasies; nobody
does .. You just live where you live.

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 5, 2011, 3:33:00 AM4/5/11
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JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:ui8p68-...@yahoo.co.il...
>> JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
>>> news:h6ro68-...@yahoo.co.il...
>>>> JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> { URL clipped unread }
>>>>
>>>> 'The accusation was a major theme in the 1903 anti-Semitic pamphlet The
>>>> Protocols of the Elders of Zion...'
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_Jewish_control_of_the_media>
>>>>
>>>> Poor Nazi. Whatever you post, I shall be here to slap it - and you -
>>>> down.
>>
>>> rofl, poor deluded fantasist. Shouldnt you be out stealing land?
>>
>> How can I 'steal' that which lawfully belongs to us, Filth?
>>
> I know you're thick and dishonest but even you can probably work out that
> it's because it doesn't belong to you.

Ah, I see. So we're back to the 'theft' angle, then, eh? So how about you
prove to us that it was 'stolen', then? How about you provide proof of
ownership of this land by the Fakestinians? Here, I'll even provide space
for your answer ...

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________.

And whilst we're about it..

1) Who was the leader of the Palestinians before Arafat?
2) What was the currency of Palestine before the Jews stole it?
3) Jerusalem was the capital of which Palestinian empire?
4) Which Palestinian kings are buried in Jerusalem?
5) What are some of the technological advances that the world owes the
Palestinians?
6) What are some of the cultural gifts of Palestine?

A 'people' who 'owned' a land, will at the very least have left its imprint
on that land. There will have been a currency. There will be Kings buried
somewhere. There will be a line of 'leaders' stretching back centuries.

What 'imprint' of the 'Palestinians' (sic) is on this land? Insert your
answer here ...

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________.

No prizes for guessing what your response will be. You will have to
respond with more puerile and wholly ineffective ranting abuse, because
there is no 'Palestinian' (sic) people. The term (as used to denote a
'people') came into existence right about the time Israel was reborn.
Curiously enough, despite living hardship and famine under Egyptian or
Jordanian rule, none of those people uttered a peep about '"Palestinian"
[sic] nationalism' until 1948. Their motives are the same as your motives:
you hate Jews. You couldn't give a flying fuck about the 'Palestinians'
(sic). All that matters to snivelling little Nazi fucks like you is the
destruction of 'Joooooooos'.

> That's why the rest of the world agree the colonial zionist settlements
> are illegal.

Oh, really? Care to provide one single competent organ which has deemed
the presence of Jews in Judea & Samaria to be 'illegal'? Just one. And
hey, don't say I'm not good to you ...

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________.

Get ready, folks.. here comes some more Nazi snivelling...

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'The reason grandparents and grandchildren get on so well is that they
have a common enemy'
(Sam Levenson (1911 - 1980))

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 5, 2011, 4:15:12 AM4/5/11
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JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "David Bookbinder" <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9EBDA1CBB4D11in...@94.75.214.39...
>> "Firnando"<use...@news.cn99.com> wrote in
>> news:59b2b025820244e5...@newspe.com:
>>
>>> 123 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and
>>> 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis
>>> since September 29, 2000. (View Source)
>>
>> I've never understood this.
>>
>> The Israelis are defending their home, Judea, also known as Palestine.
>> The
>> Palestinians deny the Israeli right to live and refuse to co-exist.
>>
>> Why shouldn't the Israelis defend their home and why should the
>> Palestinians not be killed when attacking the Israeli home?

> Without ethnic cleansing,

Don't you ever learn that stuff like that is just going to make me slap you
down again, Filth?

'... the Palestinian population has continued to explode. In Gaza, for
example, the population increased from 731,000 in July 1994 to
1,324,991 in 2004, an increase of 81 percent. The growth rate was 3.8
percent, one of the highest in the world. According to the UN, the
total Palestinian population in all the disputed territories (they
include Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem) was 1,006,000 in 1950,
and rose to 1,094,000 in 1970, and exploded to 2,152,000 in 1990.
Anthony Cordesman notes the increase "was the result of improvements in
income and health services" made by Israel. The Palestinian population
has continued to grow exponentially and was estimated in 2004 at more
than 3.6 million...'
<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html#k>

Tell us how a population that is 'ethnically cleansed' can _double_ in
number in the space of a couple of decades.

You fucking stupid _dolt_.

> expulsion,

'Expulsion' from where?

> illegal occupation,

Please cite a single instance of a competent organ which has declared
Jewish presence in Judea & Samaria to be 'illegal'.

> violent oppression

Of what ?

> and crushing restriction in what remains of palestinian territory

Where was this 'palestinian territory'? What was its capital? Where did
its borders lie? Who ruled over it? Where are its former rulers buried?
What was its currency? Cite examples of treaties it signed with other
nations.

We're waiting...

> not already stolen

Ah, 'theft' again, eh? Won't you _ever_ learn, you idiotic Nazi fuck?
Please cite proof of Fakestinian 'ownership' of this land.

> you'd have a point. As it stands the only substantial difference is the
> numbers and methods involved.

You stupid, stupid, _stupid_ bastard.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'The death penalty can be tolerated only be extreme statist
reactionaries, who demand a state so powerful that it has the right to
kill'
(Noam Chomsky (1928 - ))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Catweazel

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On Apr 4, 4:50 pm, David Bookbinder <inva...@invalid.invalid.net>
wrote:
[snip]>

> Are not the Christians better than the others, as the Christians do not
> insist on living there, but only that they can visit?

Huh? so that applies to the minority of Arabs that are Christian too?

David Bookbinder

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Catweazel <francis...@iee.org> wrote in news:9b06dc9c-aa91-4981-ad67-
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>> Are not the Christians better than the others, as the Christians
>> do not insist on living there, but only that they can visit?
>
> Huh? so that applies to the minority of Arabs that are Christian too?

I don't know: you tell me? Do Arab Christians insist on their having sole
occupancy of Judea, at the expense of the Jews?

Does seem to me that approach adopted by most Christians, that Judea is
somewhere to visit, is better than firing missiles at Jews.

Have not the Israeli authorities allowed Muslims to construct and maintain
a Mosque in the centre of Jerusalem, and is that not a more constructive
approach than Palestinians killing Jews?

David Bookbinder

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Catweazel <francis...@iee.org> wrote in
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>> Are not the Christians better than the others, as the Christians


>> do not insist on living there, but only that they can visit?
>
> Huh? so that applies to the minority of Arabs that are Christian too?

Do Arab Christians insist on their having sole occupancy of Judea, at the

David Bookbinder

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"Hotblack Desiato" <trash855...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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> Call it what you will. The Jewish settlers arriving en-masse
> from Europe and the US etc do not live in 'Palestine/Israel/Judea'.
> They have never lived in 'Palestine/Israel/Judea', and despite
> their protestations of victimhood, have never been turfed off that
> land and (in the vast majority of cases) already have perfectly
> usable land to live on in their home countries.

When I was child, Jews were mistreated and abused in Great Britain. With
the influx of Muslims, the UK seems to be going back to abusing Jews.

I worked with a Muslim who was a terribly nice chap, with a physics
doctorate from a German university. The last thing I heard him say, was
"liebe Hitler" (liebe is love).

> The people the settlers are pulling out of their homes
> live there, they have from the perspective of a human
> life, always lived there and have no other usable land.

Is this true? Are not the Palestinians currently occupying parts of Israel
under their own autonomous government, known as the Palestinian Authority,
and using the opportunity to fire missiles at Israel?

David Bookbinder

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Apr 5, 2011, 6:50:24 AM4/5/11
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in
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>> dung is the word you're looking for.
>
> Another content-free post from a Nazi.

What's brown and sounds like a bell?

Dung.

Doesn't help me understand why Palestinians think they alone should have
exclusive occupation rights to Judea.

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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This might help ..

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>

Y.
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect
for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents of injustice'
(Henry David Thoreau (1817 - 1862))
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JohnR

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"David Bookbinder" <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote in message
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They are if you subscribe to the zionist fantasy.


Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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A completely meaningless one-line fart from the group idiot. Do you plan
to post _anyting_ of worth one of these days, or does the above lunacy get
to define your presence here?

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'If law school is so difficult to get through, how come there are so
many lawyers?'
(Calvin Trillin (1935 - ))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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David Bookbinder <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:
> "Hotblack Desiato" <trash855...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> news:UtOdnWtvGcrqmwfQ...@bt.com:
>
>> Call it what you will. The Jewish settlers arriving en-masse
>> from Europe and the US etc do not live in 'Palestine/Israel/Judea'.
>> They have never lived in 'Palestine/Israel/Judea', and despite
>> their protestations of victimhood, have never been turfed off that
>> land and (in the vast majority of cases) already have perfectly
>> usable land to live on in their home countries.
>
> When I was child, Jews were mistreated and abused in Great Britain. With
> the influx of Muslims, the UK seems to be going back to abusing Jews.

The same is happening in France. This is one of the reasons why we left.
I recall a friend (Jewish) who is disabled, and upon getting onto an
underground train, requested of a young Arab man that he be allowed to sit.
The Arab, with a sneer, replied, 'tu veux quoi chez moi?'. In the 1980s,
Hussein Moussaoui, Hezbollah's 'spiritual guide' told the French..

'You might not know the Islamic Republic of France. But your
grandchildren or your great grandchildren will know it, inch'Allah'.

> I worked with a Muslim who was a terribly nice chap, with a physics
> doctorate from a German university. The last thing I heard him say, was
> "liebe Hitler" (liebe is love).

Yep. The problem is that whilst there is no shortage of perfectly decent
Muslims all over the world, their 'religion' is not just a religion but a
political system that is fundamentally incompatible with democracy.

>> The people the settlers are pulling out of their homes
>> live there, they have from the perspective of a human
>> life, always lived there and have no other usable land.
>
> Is this true? Are not the Palestinians currently occupying parts of Israel
> under their own autonomous government, known as the Palestinian Authority,
> and using the opportunity to fire missiles at Israel?

My personal preference would be for Tsahal to reclaim Gaza, as under
international law it _is_ Israeli territory. Those Arabs who wish to live
there in peace, would be able to do so. Those who desire to kill Jews,
should be destroyed like the rabid curs they are.

Y.

--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'I love California - I practically grew up in Phoenix'
(Dan Quayle (1947 - ))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

JohnR

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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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haha you live on usenet, shouldn't you be out stealing arab land like a good
zionist?

everyone who lived there was palestinian, jew arab or otherwise, until a
handful of european communist jews started their cult and planned the great
theft.


JohnR

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Apr 5, 2011, 9:13:48 AM4/5/11
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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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I know you're thick but even you can probably work out that gaza is a
destination for ethnically cleansed arab palestinians, it is a refugee camp
prison. The population explosion is a red herring.

><snipped rest of zion cult nonsense>


Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 5, 2011, 9:14:40 AM4/5/11
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I'm actually off work today, Filth, and sitting here barefoot, ready to get
my shoes on and go and pick up my daughter. Holding your head down the
lavvy and pulling the plug is just a welcome 3-minute diversion.

> shouldn't you be out stealing arab land like a good
> zionist?

(Ho, ho, ho .. he never learns.... watch this, folks...)

What 'Arab land' would that be, Cur?

> everyone who lived there was palestinian, jew arab or otherwise, until a
> handful of european communist jews started their cult and planned the
> great theft.

Ah, the 'great theft', eh?

*pmsl*

It's almost Pavlovian...

What 'theft' would that be, then..?

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'Smile first thing in the morning. Get it over with'
(W.C. Fields (1880 - 1946))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Oh, my ribs ... my fucking ribs...

You. Fucking. _Dolt_.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human
face - forever'
(George Orwell (1903 - 1950))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

JohnR

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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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much like crackpot zionists then, their hijacking of judaism and ongoing
transformation into a masonic political cult worshipping a false welfare
state on stolen land.


JohnR

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>>> JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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>>>>> JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> { URL clipped unread }
>>>>>
>>>>> 'The accusation was a major theme in the 1903 anti-Semitic pamphlet
>>>>> The
>>>>> Protocols of the Elders of Zion...'
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_Jewish_control_of_the_media>
>>>>>
>>>>> Poor Nazi. Whatever you post, I shall be here to slap it - and you -
>>>>> down.
>>>
>>>> rofl, poor deluded fantasist. Shouldnt you be out stealing land?
>>>
>>> How can I 'steal' that which lawfully belongs to us, Filth?
>>>
>> I know you're thick and dishonest but even you can probably work out that
>> it's because it doesn't belong to you.
>
> Ah, I see. So we're back to the 'theft' angle, then, eh? So how about
> you
> prove to us that it was 'stolen', then? How about you provide proof of
> ownership of this land by the Fakestinians? Here, I'll even provide space
> for your answer ...
>
Let's see, I need to try and attune to the cult crackpot fantasy

so the palestinian arabs farming and living on the land for many generations
now being moved off the land don't have cult paperwork to be there - they
can be legitimately forced off - upon which ownership rightfully passes to
the zionist theif.

that about right?

><snipped rest of deranged cult nonsense>


David Bookbinder

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"JohnR" <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> haha you live on usenet, shouldn't you be out
> stealing arab land like a good zionist?

I thought Israel has allowed Palestinians to occupy parts of Israel like
the Gaza Strip?

JohnR

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"David Bookbinder" <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote in message
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You're a good zionist, by allowed I assume you refer to the restraint
zionist colonial lust has had to adhere to.


David Bookbinder

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"JohnR" <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ztFmp.232236$Nq4.152174
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> You're a good zionist,

Not me. I am asking because I would like an answer. Why as a socialist am
I expect to support the Palestinian cause, which is that they, and they
alone, should live in Judea?

What is wrong with the Israeli approach, that Jews and Muslims should share
Palestine?

JohnR

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"David Bookbinder" <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote in message
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I'm not aware of any such approach or any moves to that effect. The
entertainment of any such idea would threaten the whole premise on which the
zionist colonisation plan for palestine and creation of israel was
undertaken - that of a jewish state founded on land that was inhabited by an
overwhelmingly non jewish population.

http://www.mideastweb.org/refugees1.htm

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 5, 2011, 2:53:42 PM4/5/11
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LMAO!!!

You fuckin' moron.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 5, 2011, 3:28:10 PM4/5/11
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JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "David Bookbinder" <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9EBEA092EEC02in...@188.40.43.213...
>> "JohnR" <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ztFmp.232236$Nq4.152174
>> @unlimited.newshosting.com:
>>
>>
>>> You're a good zionist,
>>
>> Not me. I am asking because I would like an answer. Why as a socialist
>> am
>> I expect to support the Palestinian cause, which is that they, and they
>> alone, should live in Judea?
>>
>> What is wrong with the Israeli approach, that Jews and Muslims should
>> share
>> Palestine?

> I'm not aware of any such approach or any moves to that effect.

That's because you're a Joooooooooooo-hatin' Nazi. Why do you think we
gave up the Sinai? Why do you think we gave up Gaza? Why do you think we
gave up vast swathes of Judea & Samaria?

You _fucking_ retarded cunt. You're not aware of any moves to that effect?
You fucking _retard_.

> The entertainment of any such idea would threaten the whole premise on
> which the zionist colonisation plan for palestine and creation of israel
> was undertaken - that of a jewish state founded on land that was
> inhabited by an overwhelmingly non jewish population.

'Far from being settled by Palestinians for hundreds, if not thousands
of years, the Land of Israel, according to dozens of visitors to the
land, was, until the beginning of the last century, practically empty.
Alphonse de Lamartine visited the land in 1835. In his book,
Recollections of the East, he writes "Outside the gates of Jerusalem we
saw no living object, heard no living sound?." None other than the
famous American author Mark Twain, who visited the Land of Israel in
1867, confirms this. In his book Innocents Abroad he writes, ?A
desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of
life and action. We reached Tabor safely?. We never saw a human being
on the whole journey.? Even the British Consul in Palestine reported,
in 1857, ?The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants
and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population??

In fact, according to official Ottoman Turk census figures of 1882, in
the entire Land of Israel, there were only 141,000 Muslims, both Arab
and non-Arab. This number was to skyrocket to 650,000 Arabs by 1922, a
450% increase in only 40 years. By 1938 that number would become over 1
million or an 800% increase in only 56 years. Population growth was
especially high in areas where Jews lived. Where did all these Arabs
come from? According to the Arabs the huge increase in their numbers
was due to natural childbirth. In 1944, for example, they alleged that
the natural increase (births minus deaths) of Arabs in the Land of
Israel was the astounding figure of 334 per 1000. That would make it
roughly three times the corresponding rate for the same year of Lebanon
and Syria and almost four times that of Egypt, considered amongst the
highest in the world. Unlikely, to say the least. If the massive
increase was not due to natural births, then were did all these Arabs
come from?'
<http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/747>

> http://www.mideastweb.org/refugees1.htm

<http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/jewref.html>

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'The nation is not an entity, it's divided into economic classes,
and the architects of policy are those who have the economic power'

Warren Buckley

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Apr 6, 2011, 6:20:26 AM4/6/11
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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in
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> That's because you're a Joooooooooooo-hatin' Nazi. Why do you
> think we gave up the Sinai? Why do you think we gave up Gaza?
> Why do you think we gave up vast swathes of Judea & Samaria?

If Israel is so unreasonable that she does not deserve to exist, why has
Israel established Palestinian government in Sinai, Gaza and parts of Judea
& Samaria? Why is Bethlehem under control of the Palestinian Authority?

Is Samaria where the Samaritans in The New Testament come from?

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:46:21 PM4/6/11
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'many generations' ...ROFL!!

You retarded Nazi fuck. Only yesterday I posted the proof that up until
the beginning of last century, Palestine was in effect an unpopulated
moonscape. Now you're trying to convince us that there was this sort of
thriving, ancient 'Palestinian' (sic) culture which the nasty Jooos came
along and obliterated, like the conquistadors wiping out the Aztecs.

But yet despite these claims, you have still to provide one iota of proof.
Not one. Not a dicky bird. Not a single shred of evidence. You make the
claims, and then snip any response that asks you to prove them, as well as
any proof that explodes them.

> now being moved off the land don't have cult paperwork to be there - they
> can be legitimately forced off - upon which ownership rightfully passes to
> the zionist theif.
>
> that about right?
>
>><snipped rest of deranged cult nonsense>

You mean snipped questions you can't - or won't - answer. Here they are
again...

Ah, I see. So we're back to the 'theft' angle, then, eh? So how about
you prove to us that it was 'stolen', then? How about you provide
proof of ownership of this land by the Fakestinians? Here, I'll even
provide space for your answer ...

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________.

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________.

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________.

And how right I was!

So answer the questions, Naziboi.

Y.

--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'The power to tax, once conceded, has no limits. It contains until it
destroys'
(Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 6, 2011, 12:55:55 PM4/6/11
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Ah, so now we have to 'adhere' to restraint, eh? According to most of the
bile you spew here, Israel revels in the slaughter of innocent babies as we
dance on the battlefield, smearing the blood of pregnant Arab woman across
our tumescent genitals and baying 'death to the sandmonkeys!' in Hebrew and
Yiddish, accompanied by the sounds of kiddie-fiddling Rabbinim blasting the
shofar.

And yet now we have to 'adhere' to 'restraint'?

What happened, eh? Did you suddenly realise what a fucking tool you've
been making of yourself for the past year or so?

Y.

--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
'What you are, you are by accident of birth. What I am, I am by
myself. There are and will be a thousand princes. There is only one
Beethoven'
(Ludwig van Beethoven (1770 - 1827))
<http://www.palwatch.org/>

JohnR

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Apr 7, 2011, 8:04:03 AM4/7/11
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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
news:rhiu68...@yahoo.co.il...

> JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "David Bookbinder" <inv...@invalid.invalid.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9EBE982924BD7in...@188.40.43.213...
>>> "JohnR" <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:4tEmp.49154$gO1....@unlimited.newshosting.com:
>>>
>>>> haha you live on usenet, shouldn't you be out
>>>> stealing arab land like a good zionist?
>>>
>>> I thought Israel has allowed Palestinians to occupy parts of Israel like
>>> the Gaza Strip?
>>>
>> You're a good zionist, by allowed I assume you refer to the restraint
>> zionist colonial lust has had to adhere to.
>
> Ah, so now we have to 'adhere' to restraint, eh? According to most of the
> bile you spew here, Israel revels in the slaughter of innocent babies as
> we
> dance on the battlefield, smearing the blood of pregnant Arab woman across
> our tumescent genitals and baying 'death to the sandmonkeys!' in Hebrew
> and
> Yiddish, accompanied by the sounds of kiddie-fiddling Rabbinim blasting
> the
> shofar.
>
You may well do all that but it's not something you can attribute to me,
unless of course you are just making it up like the rest of your cult
nonsense and the intoxicated fanatical hatred and victimhood you're most
comfortable with.

>
> And yet now we have to 'adhere' to 'restraint'?
>
Only to the point and for the purpose of maintaining the welfare check and
firing range supplies.

>
> What happened, eh? Did you suddenly realise what a fucking tool you've
> been making of yourself for the past year or so?
>
If I wrote a tenth of the fantastic lunatic nonsense you do, I might well.


Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 10, 2011, 10:31:08 AM4/10/11
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JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:rhiu68...@yahoo.co.il...

>> What happened, eh? Did you suddenly realise what a fucking tool you've


>> been making of yourself for the past year or so?

> If I wrote a tenth of the fantastic lunatic nonsense you do, I might well.

Remarkable. Quite remarkable. You really don't see the extent to which
you are thrashed daily on this group...

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'I will never allow a single Israeli to live among us on
Palestinian land'
(Mahmoud Abbas, 28 July 2010)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Firnando

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Apr 14, 2011, 1:24:40 AM4/14/11
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How American News Media Works In Favor Of Israel

Video

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21744.htm

Statistics Last Updated: November 6, 2008

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Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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Apr 29, 2011, 6:42:28 PM4/29/11
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*tumbleweed*

Another Nazi cunt, beaten to his knees.

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'On no account shall we permit an enemy to develop weapons of mass
destruction against the people of Israel..'
(Menahem Begin (1913 - 1992))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

JohnR

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May 3, 2011, 5:54:59 AM5/3/11
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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
news:kfrr88-...@yahoo.co.il...
First of all purile and ineffective ranting and abuse defines you and
everything you write, so just like all your other ridiculous claims and limp
accusations they're nothing but an attempt to deflect attention from that
fact. Second the issue isn't about where "jews" should be allowed to live or
not it is about illegal occupation, oppression, colonial expansion and land
theft. Zionists nutters like you are fakers, nothing more than hate fuelled
political fanatics who use the banner of a hijacked religion, claim an
invented people and use, aggravate and exploit the suffering of real jews to
foment fear and hatred as a weapon to empower and enrich your political
fanaticism and racist colonial expansion plans.

Your questions aren't even relevant to the situation in palestine or
anywhere else for that matter, so any "lack of content" is a symptom of the
hate fuelled racist garbage you scribble and lack of substance it contains.


Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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May 7, 2011, 5:02:34 AM5/7/11
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There goes the spittle again, folks. And yet again, to the surprise of no
one, 'JohnR' trots out his usual little 'illegal occupation' canard. And
we ask again: 'who defines it as "illegal"?'.

But 'JohnR' won't answer. He'll do what he always does: post screeds of
hatred like the above, making wild claims of 'legality' or 'illegality'
that he neither understands nor is competent to describe. But that doesn't
matter to 'JohnR'. He is just a common or garden Nazi without the brains
to see how he's being picked apart.

> Your questions aren't even relevant to the situation in palestine or
> anywhere else for that matter, so any "lack of content" is a symptom of the
> hate fuelled racist garbage you scribble and lack of substance it contains.

Temper, temper...

Why not spend a bit more time recommending 'amateur porn' online, 'JohnR',
eh? It's not like you're unaccustomed to it..

<http://www.yuvutu.com/repro007>

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has
is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough
criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime
that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws'
(Ayn Rand (1905-1982))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

JohnR

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May 7, 2011, 11:35:25 AM5/7/11
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"Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
news:aeef98-...@yahoo.co.il...
FAIL

I know you're a useless usenet stalker who spends your life trawling the net
but this link is nothing to do with me, you already know that though.


Bert Hyman

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May 7, 2011, 11:42:55 AM5/7/11
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In news:iFdxp.10065$Uq4....@unlimited.newshosting.com "JohnR"
<repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I know you're a useless usenet stalker who spends your life trawling
> the net

And yet, you're having an extended conversation with him.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

JohnR

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"Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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> In news:iFdxp.10065$Uq4....@unlimited.newshosting.com "JohnR"
> <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I know you're a useless usenet stalker who spends your life trawling
>> the net
>
> And yet, you're having an extended conversation with him.
>
Point taken.


Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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JohnR <repr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein" <yit...@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
> news:aeef98-...@yahoo.co.il...

>> <http://www.yuvutu.com/repro007>
>>
> FAIL
>
> I know you're a useless usenet stalker who spends your life trawling the net
> but this link is nothing to do with me, you already know that though.

Do I?

How's that, then?

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'If G-d had not intended for us to eat animals, how come He made them
out of meat?'
(Sarah Palin)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

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May 11, 2011, 12:06:04 PM5/11/11
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*phew!!*, eh?

That lifeline arrived just in time to save the pathetic little Nazi turd
from actually having to back up his claims with fact. Did you send him an
e-mail to thank him for saving you from being kicked up and down the
newsgroup like a rag doll?

Unfortunately for you, Adolf, I'm not about to stop asking those questions.
And here they are again ..

Who defines 'illegal'?
What powers do the 'international community' have to declare 'illegality'?
Who defines 'illegal occupation'?
How is Fakestinian 'ownership' of this land defined?
Who was the leader of the Fakestinians before Arafat?


What was the currency of Palestine before the Jews stole it?

Jerusalem was the capital of which Fakestinian empire?
Which Fakestinian kings are buried in Jerusalem?


What are some of the technological advances that the world owes the

Fakestinians?


What are some of the cultural gifts of Palestine?

Loads more where they came from. In your own time...

<fx: news:alt.activism.death-penalty added so that others may witness your
humiliation as you _again_ snip the above questions and throw some
infantile venom my way }

Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein

'Intellectual growth should commence at birth and cease only at death'
(Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

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